leading barrister:
someone share this on reddit please, my new account cant post on major subs for being too new
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Incel culture should be classed as terrorism, leading human rights barrister warns
‘Incel culture played a huge role in his murderous decisions,’ says Charlotte Proudman during an exclusive virtual event held by The Independent
Incel groups “glorify” violence against women and should be classed as terrorists, a leading human rights barrister has warned.
Dr Charlotte Proudman, an award-winning family law lawyer, said incel groups are a growing problem yet the authorities wrongly see incidents as being “isolated one-offs” rather than joining up the dots.
An incel, which stands for a combination of the words “involuntary” and “celibate”, is a heterosexual man who desperately wants to have s*x with women but fails to do so, consequently heaping blame on women for their own inability to form sexual relationships.
Speaking at an event about violence against women hosted by The Independent on Thursday, Dr Proudman said a belief in incel culture was a critical factor in the massacre carried out by gunman Jake Davison in Plymouth in August.
Davison, a self-proclaimed Incel, shot dead six people in the port city on the south coast of Devon - with his mother and a three-year-old girl among his victims - before aiming the gun at his own head.
After the tragedy, it emerged Davison had previously uploaded videos referring to himself as an “incel” and lamenting the fact he had not lost his virginity as a teenager. Davison’s murder spree was the deadliest mass shooting to take place in the UK in over a decade.
“Incel culture played a huge role in his murderous decisions,” Dr Proudman said in the panel discussion hosted by The Independent’s women’s correspondent Maya Oppenheim. “It is not just him. There are many people.”
The barrister noted incel groups are particularly prevalent in the US - adding that it is an ideology that sees men assert their “right to s*x” and vent their frustrations about the fact women are “supposedly withholding it” from them. “How dare we,” Ms Proudman quipped.
“Involuntary celibacy has been going on for 30 years,” Dr Proudman, who specialises in violence against women and girls, added. “It has been going on for decades. In my view, it is a form of terrorism.”
Dr Proudman, who was joined by Cristel Amiss, a life-long activist from Women Against R*pe and Black Women's R*pe Action Project and Rebecca Hitchin from the End Violence Against Women Coalition, said incel culture needs to be incorporated into conceptions of radicalisation and fundamentalism.
The lawyer, who campaigns for domestic abuse victims to be gain protection in the family courts, added: “If someone were to use this type of language and they were from an ethnic minority background or had so-called religious views, then they would be seen as terrorists.
“Then why is it not the same for misogynists? Then why is it not the same for men who are holding these radical views of hatred of women, which have become a glamorous subculture? It is glorifying that violence.
“These types of murders are seen as one-offs, isolated incidents, they are not joined up. They are not seen as part of a larger movement which is taking place online.”
Dr Proudman warned incel culture is an “enormous problem”, concluding: “It needs to be defined as terrorism in short.”
Incel men, who are affiliated with far-right, neo-Nazi movements, victimise themselves and attribute their dearth of sexual and romantic relationships to problems with society.
Incel communities, which have grown in recent years, have sprung up on Reddit, Facebook, 4chan and on websites established by incels themselves. Members of the dark community spout misogynistic abuse about all women on online forums, as well as making vitriolic comments about the women who reject them - even plotting against them.
should yield drama on reddit i reckon
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Silence is violence
Not having s*x is terrorism
This morning, Cum went to the park. I went with Coom. And Cum brought Coomer frisbee. At least I think it was Coomers. By the end of the day, Cum started throwing the frisbee to Cumself.
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I'm surprised incels are even notorious enough to be considered a threat. I always assumed most normal people don't even know what incels are
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I think the term has become fairly mainstream since 2018ish when they started being blamed for shootings.
Now people think its just a synonym for a the weird school shooter looking lonely kid in class.
This morning, Cum went to the park. I went with Coom. And Cum brought Coomer frisbee. At least I think it was Coomers. By the end of the day, Cum started throwing the frisbee to Cumself.
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I think it is just pushing blame to weird people. I think society has been turning evermore isolated and afraid. This is just not a fault of individuals. Of course an isolated mental ill person is more likely to create a problem.
The question is: Is that isolated persons fault? Is it society fault? Is it fault of both? Of none? I don't think we know the answers. I believe it's either both or none.
I feel it's like blaming death metal for satanism, or whatever stuff the conservative christians were afraid.
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Are you too young to remember columbine and it's aftermath?
this isn't new at all.
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New in the sense of the last 50 years, not new like in the last 10 years. Also, isolated people always existed, but I think communities and families were stronger back then than they are now. Of course that also has it's downsides. Everything in life is a tradeoff. Also I'm not american, so maybe I don't have the same environment as an american have.
I think a big part of our progress is just technology making up for our failures as humans. I think it is provable that people are more isolated now than in the past, probably have more addictions, and some of them are 'socially acceptable'.
This is my interpretation of the current days, I don't have special knowledge or vision. It's how I view and interpret the world online and around me.
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Normies find out about stuff like that from the terminally online writers at Law & Order: SVU
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They actually did have an incel episode on SVU lol
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affirmative action for special needs foids was a mistake
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Who fricks s? Like actually. My friend group has 0 s and like 5 openly LGB. Given the friend group is a bunch of post greek life people, there weren’t many LGBT people in that sphere.
This morning, Cum went to the park. I went with Coom. And Cum brought Coomer frisbee. At least I think it was Coomers. By the end of the day, Cum started throwing the frisbee to Cumself.
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40 year old women afraid to divorce their late-in-life-transition former husbands with whom they already have at least one kid.
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Kinda crazy how a mid-life crisis used to be buying a corvette but now its ruining your life by becoming a train
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trains train trains
The whole polycule goes chuga chuga choo choo
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There are guys into the passable ones like Blaire. Other than that only other s and the occasional hyper-woke lesbian who’s too afraid to reject their advances.
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for pre-op hetero trains it's okay, there are more than enough men who fetishize them (which they don't want obviously, they want completely normal cishet dudes to mistake them for completely normal cis women). after bottom surgery it gets more difficult to find consenting partners, because the fetishists expect a feminine peepee.
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"Hetero"
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Yes in a 'wierd' way. I'm attracted to trans woman and to cis woman. I'm of those straight people that they talk about so much. And not even just in the sexual sense. I've had one crush on a trans woman before (a real one that I met in real life, not the internet kind).
Like, I have no attraction to men, seeing a naked hot guy does nothing for me, seeing two guys kissing is kinda uncomfortable for me (maybe it is my internalized homophobia, who the frick knows). Same thing as a trans man, seeing a trans man naked is also not attractive at all to me. I don't understand the people that say they are straight and also say they are attracted to trans man. Have they seen one naked? I think it's just them trying to score political points.
So yeah, people like me exist. I concede that I'm not the straightest man ever, I don't even care about that, call me gay all you want, that does not change anything about me. I'm just trying to explain why some people say they are 'still straight'.
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Yeah, like Bailey Jay says:
I'm gay now! The rest is just cope.
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average janny
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Neighbor you gay
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yes, but only for a very specific type of male persons.
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well...
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Post op trans women are better since the axe wound is great and they’re basically revolting giga sluts. They had no self respect to begin with, but they have a male bone structure and they love to be beaten. So you can beat them way harder than real women.
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wow so edgy
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Yeah consensual s*x between two adults is edgy as frick. Stop kinkshaming you little b-word. Would be that I had a trans gf who loved to be beaten so I could make her really happy. Edgyyyyyyy hahah.
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Idk man. Even if they are passable (like Blaire as you said) I don't think I could do it.
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I probably couldn’t either, but I know there are some guys who are into that.
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Inherently bisexuals only. The gay bois have no need for boobies and the heteros don't want no dongs.
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If reddit is to be believed, very drunk people picking up someone at closing time
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my thailand loving friends talk about such encounters so i won't be surprised
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Reeee neurotypical detected frick off my cat dating site
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zoz
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zle
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zozzle
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I do, trans women are crazy in bed. They’re way better than most real women!
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Fetishists and coomers.
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https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/0265407518779139
Mostly queers. Not normal gays or lesbians (which are sexualities), but queer the political identity. Also there are some "straight" men who will put their peepees in anything.
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This doesn’t go far enough. To effectively combat the Incel menace we need total disenfranchisement of their ranks. Things like opening a bank account, getting a loan, applying for a job, leasing an apartment, etc should all require a minimum of two girlfriend references.
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And you need to define what counts as a girlfriend. Good thing that Google and Facebook and all the other giants know more about your life than you, so the bank does not even need to ask you, it just opens the 'People relationship index™' app, witch they pay 500$ per month for access, puts your Id in, and then back it comes the required score.
It's not like any of this is already happening. You only need to keep your privacy if you are trying to hide something. Remember that.
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Two girlfriends? Real Chads marry the first woman they meet and immediately begin procreation. Anything less than that is incel adjacent.
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Sorry bro your (((chad))) is actually an incel as well according to our bank statement.
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I legit feel like there is some outside force intervening from incel drama from taking off. It’s like a fireworks warehouse surrounded by fields of dry dead flora, and we’re just waiting for some asshat to drop a cigarette, but it never happens.
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Incels are languid and melancholic by nature. There's little potential for drama because they don't do anything but whinge and complain on their internet forums. The only consistently funny thing about them is their anatomy /surgery obsession and their "mog battles" where they rank male models
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"Bimax" sounds like turning yourself bi to get more partners. The difference being that would actually work.
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Inkwells are good bogeyman. You see democrats are winning because of woman (96% black kwins voted for baiden) so they paint inkwell as white far right man to get simphaty from them and get there votes. As you see there are more foids in US especially Mayo and Black foids. So what democrats are doing is very legit and objective strategy at winning and I will be surprised if we ever get a republican president before US becames CSM (Catholic States of Mexico) or ISA (Islamic State of America). Democtats really have grabbed those foid by the kitty very tight.
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be the cigarette you want to see in the world
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Throwing men in prison for seething about virginity is exactly what dramacoin needs.
he sold?
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What awards does one win in family law? Least annoying shithead?
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It's when you reach your hundredth homeless husband forced to pay 80% of income in alimony, you earn your string family values award for supporting women's well being.
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Like half of this article is false
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Only half? That's a new record.
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He also killed dudes but they ain’t white woman so nobody cares about them. Also today like 30 people died in Afghanistan but u know they ain’t white woman
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Oppressing incels will just create more and worse incels, which is why I want them to oppress the shit out of incels.
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Nah. Incels are just this generations goth kids. Look at who did the school shootings in america back in the day, it was losers listening to Marilyn Manson and played computer games. They were virgins, outcasts and shut ins.
As such the best way to cure incel fäggotry isn't to handle them with kid gloves. It's to bully and beat the shit out of them. 18 months national service would sort these cute twinks right out.
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Except they listened to Rammstein and KMFDM and Doom was as normie as you could get for a computer game at the time. If anything, the fact that Harris played Doom was the biggest boon ever for the type of Origin/Sierra fanboy who absolutely hated the fact that it made their entire libraries irrelevant.
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Thanks for the award I now feel like cool boi
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Round 3 ?
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No I think you’ve learned your lesson
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Can you repeat what was the lesson ?
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That you’re boring
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I am not boring it’s just you don’t understand me
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https://lawfareblog.com/incels-americas-newest-domestic-terrorism-threat
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We unironically need to disenfranchise legal professionals and legal theorists
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Desire to study lawfare should disqualify one from engaging in it.
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Topical nihhonese cartoon.
Read it nerds. It's unironically good. What rdrama would be if it were a manga.
Edit: Virgin extinction island. Plox no bully.
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>wants us to read his weebshit
>neglects to provide source
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https://ww.mangakakalot.tv/manga/manga-jt987054
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Well what's it called?
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Virgin extinction island.
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Does outlawing inceldom mean that the U.K. is going to enforce mandatory state-provided girlfriends?
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https://old.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/q8tnww/incel_culture_should_be_classed_as_terrorism/?sort=controversial
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LOL
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Dang it. Was up to 15 updootles
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https://old.reddit.com/r/unitedkingdom/comments/q8vf87/incel_culture_should_be_classed_as_terrorism/?sort=controversial
Developing drama!
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It’s an old alt I forgot about. The name is a L/I swap for a user that was really annoying an r/news years ago.
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It was kinda funny because every once in awhile I’d get his hate mail.
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Also I’m very pro-gun. I have a surplus twin-stamp Skorpion vz-61, a folding stock Norinco SKS, a Glock 43 that I used to kill a guy during a daytime break-in and hammer attack, and a Benelli 828 because I’m a gentleman.
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Article makes it out like that's a logical step in and off itself
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doesn't the uk jail people for saying stuff on facebook?
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Yes but how will this affect the transcel community
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Hmm I wonder what a certain gay Vietnamese American male would think of this... 🤔
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Lol declaring all incels terrorists won't increase the rate of r*pes at all I am sure.
Edit: also imagine the fact that in your society of (((equals))) the treatment of men and women has diverged to such an extreme that when women are bitter towards men he probably deserves it but when men are bitter towards women they are terrorists
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I thought most incels were Asian and Indian men?
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There is something intensely funny about journoids attempting to understand/explain incels. Something about the fact that incels are so pathetic that they leaked into the lives of boomers, and that you know several of those boomers will meet around the water cooler saying shit like "what the frick is an incel haha just have s*x"
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If you are a high school boy and don't identify as a foid to win Olympic medals you are r slurred imo or does the Olympics have testosterone limits? Like if you can self id as female than why not? No surgery or hormones required. Just need to debase yourself in public
Snapshots:
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For a bit I thought Charlotte Proudman was an r-slured journo way of saying "Charlottesville Proud Boy" about that rally a few years ago.
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so in order to not be terrorists they have to go out and take what they want?
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