serious post inc

As a codecel I had to go through the interview process for senior developer positions recently and it sucked balls tbh. I had to grind out leetcode problems to dredge up details of algorithms and data structures I haven't had to think about since sophomore year of college because nobody actually has to use them in day to day work.

The thing is the software developer interview process is broken. Everyone knows it and nobody knows how to fix it. Someone reversing a binary tree doesn't mean they'll be good at churning out boring corporate code. Conversely there are a shocking number of people with degrees that legitimately can't do fizzbuzz. How do you weed out the latter without accidentally turning down potentially good candidates? Nobody knows. But a bad or incompetent developer can utterly cripple a team. So we get trivia questions and string manipulation problems because if you can pass those you probably aren't completely r-slurred.

It's worth it to me because I make good money doing relatively easy work and I can frick around on rdrama most of the day.

On the other hand, I have seen professional leetcode and hackerrank engineers have difficulty with the requirements of everyday work.

The ultimate reddit cope is the devs who think they're better than "leetcode engineers" but being held down by the system (of broken interviews). God forbid you have to actually study something to get your 300k TC. That's not to say the modern SWE interview is perfect, but it isn't the worst thing to select for people that have enough dedication/competence to crack it.

"Most developers suck" and "technical interviews are mostly poorly designed" aren't the mutually exclusive statements they seem to think they are.

Code is something that you need to practice or you forget it. I mean I studied lisp, c, python and I legit don’t really remember them even though I have bs in cs

r/cscareerquestions is where students and 15 year old redditors come to lie about their salary and position. It has so much potentially UNTAPPED drama!

i am a data analyst and according to my job description i'm a python and R expert. But in reality all I do is copy and rearrange other peoples workflows. feels bad man

Anyone who tells you they know how to code, and is not doing direct machine language, is lying. Nobody knows how to code except dead NASA scientists.

If I could fire literally everyone I currently work with, on the spot, I would. I genuinely believe there should be some sort of system where if you apply and have certain keywords(Javascript, Java, anything to do with patterns, anything to do with object oriented code) on your resume, your house is drone striked.

Daily reminder that interview questions aren't hard enough.

Most modern software engineers are too busy practicing tucking in their peepee and perfecting their make up to be good at coding.

An old boss would tell me frequently that my hard skills were fine and to focus on soft skills. She also couldn’t implement literally anything without help, but I’m sure the two are unrelated.

I knew a guy in middle school who had more practical coding experience and skill than junior CS majors. Devs follow the 20/80 law.

I liked the codecel who insisted that everyone should be able to write hello world given internet access.

I literally just don't believe you. I've never met anyone who could last in the field who didn't didn't know how to google something like this.

This is entirely the "frat handshake" method of interviewing.

No, I don't think anyone with 10 years of experience couldn't do Hello World given their regular environment of internet access and an IDE - if you can confirm they actually worked software jobs for that 10 years.

Hello to you too

They're right that tech interviews don't weed out bad codecels at least. Coding isn't really about solving the same practice problems from leet code. Like one in a ten thousand hours of programming involves optimizating algos. Some of these dudes will crush the tech interview after hundreds of hour son leet code and then be clueless when you ask them to clone the repo and actually put a button on a screen or write a sql query.

It's like evaluating a novelist based on how many words per minute they can type extemporaneously.

Gets paid to guess-and-check, gets mad they want proof it's educated guesses.

best developers had better soft skills than hard technical skills

Yes I know you don't look at your PR's before asking me to review them

c*nt

Yeah, my friend who hires at a major media company tells me he gives candidates a simple problem to solve: given an input of n cents, break it down into as few coins as possible using quarters, dimes, nickels and pennies. So if the input is 56, simply print something like "2 quarters, 1 nickel,1 penny". And they can just explain the solution if they'd rather not code in front of him. He says that a literal, non-exaggerated 90% of candidates get completely stumped by this.

I've been teaching my pre-teen son to code as of about 10 months ago, just casual weekly sessions and assignments, and he solved this exact problem on his own with zero tips.

Yeah mate, I'm sure your preteen son knows how to do this, and it's not just you submitting a shitty greedy solution that doesn't actually work.

You cancerous neet government aid needing cute twink, I can barely understand the language you speak you fricking Newstrag Mexican, second YOU are not relevant enough to ever have a joke made about you nor will you ever be relevant in your entire basement dwelling reddit using virgin life

Yeah, I am starting to suspect that you are one of those wonderful p-dophiles people. I bet you got hard to that shitty drawn peepee I made that looks like a 5 year old drew it I bet that is what got your tiny p-do peepee hard ehh? Well no frick off you fricking unoriginal r-slurred flaming cute twink.

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• undelete.pullpush.io
• archive.org
• archive.ph (click to archive)