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[🤓🤓🤓🔘🔘] Why are Black neighborhoods so violent? (Comparison with Africa)

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Whew!!!! This section is a shit show too. Lol.Facts are racist guys. Remember? (58)

His portrayal of the stats and lack of context and all the other variables is what makes OP a racist. They said themselves in another comment they think it's genetics. Only genetics. (-17)

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We live in such a polarized society that 80% of people either say “violent culture” or “systematic racism” depending on which side of the aisle you're on. Here's the thing about the world we live in: there are a multitude of variables in playwith any statistic like this.Is it partly due to systematic racism? YesIs it partly due to a more aggressive culture? Yes Is it partly due to drug use/the war on drugs? YesIs it partly due to the lack of importance placed on family and education? YesIs it partly due to higher poverty? Yes Is it partly due to the media fueling this fire? Yes The moment we as a society realize all these variables matter is the moment we can start seriously talking about effective solutions. (267)

I'm on the 20%I think it's genetic (-17)

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We live in such a polarized society that 80% of people either say “violent culture” or “systematic racism” depending on which side of the aisle you're on. Here's the thing about the world we live in: there are a multitude of variables in playwith any statistic like this.Is it partly due to systematic racism? YesIs it partly due to a more aggressive culture? Yes Is it partly due to drug use/the war on drugs? YesIs it partly due to the lack of importance placed on family and education? YesIs it partly due to higher poverty? Yes Is it partly due to the media fueling this fire? Yes The moment we as a society realize all these variables matter is the moment we can start seriously talking about effective solutions. (267)

I agree with all, but media not sure how that's relevant. (0)

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The problem I have with the whole “poverty leads to crime,” meme is that I grew up on my parents' stories of life during the Great Depression. I'd be happy to tell them to you, but you might not believe them. The poverty that untold millions of AmeriKKKans experienced can only be described as horrific, but most of them didn't become criminals. My mother's' parents absolutely would not tolerate any behavior that would bring shame on the family. My dad's family, frankly, was not as gentile, shall we say, as my mother's family. He and his three siblings weren't raised to as high a standard of morals and ethics as my mother and her nine siblings were, but they didn't become criminals. (0)

Couple of points:1) Poverty is #1 indicator of crimes, that is an established fact by almost every reputable study.2) I would argue your parents didn't know true poverty. Not trying to be rude, but just saying even during the worst of times in AmeriKKKa ( Great Depression, financial crisis of 2008. it still much better than in majority of the world. I come from a very poor country where living during Great Depression would be considered luxury. Unfortunately most countries that are like mine are filled with poverty and crimes.3) Poverty is not the only thing that causes crime and I mentioned the other one: culture. There are people in Japan, for example, that are much poorer than some poor people in AmeriKKKa, yet crime rates in Japan have been historically low because stealing, robbery and other crime is very dishonoring in Japanese culture. They don't have a lot of drug problems either. In USA, people are very materialistic, black culture doesn't put emphasis on education, academ... (-1)

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How does this mansplain the crime rates in majority black nations? (16)

The number one indicator of violent crime rate is poverty. The fact is, the richer the nation (across all strata of society), the less likely violent crime will be. There are other pertinent indicators, like overall societal values and cultural hegemony. Most other factors people tend to consider usually lend themselves to factors that are indicative of economic success, like education and family stability. One need only look at States like Alabama, Missouri, Mississippi, etc., where even the white communities have high rates of crime despite cultural hegemony and generally peaceful values largely because of limited economic opportunity and overall poverty.The fact is, that most black communities in the US (because of systemic racism) tend to be very poor, which in turn leads to higher rates of crime and a culture of violence. Similarly, most of Africa hasn't been independent for more than a couple generations--many countries didn't gain independence until the 60s.These countries ha... (0)

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Since slavery, the AmeriKKKan government has not let black people be. Succeeding the events of slavery, it wasn't all fine and dandy, there were originally race specific policies put in place in order to hinder the success of black AmeriKKKans, to which we still see the effects of to this day. African AmeriKKKans were put to a significant disadvantage when compared to other minority groups, and when accounting for literally being left out of all of the benefits of AmeriKKKan society, while still receiving the negative consequences of participating, it makes sense why they are in the state they are today. That is not even accounting for the CIA's ADMITTED war on drugs. This is generational trauma and suppression. When groups like the KKK with extreme hostility and CIA ruin black families (look up black wall st) for DECADES, it is hard to overcome these boundaries. Every issue we have today stems from lack of a sound family structure and wealth, which can almost always be traced back to the g... (2)

I have looked into the entire picture. Have you? Slavery was everywhere. Slaves that left Africa on boat mostly went to South AmeriKKKa. North AmeriKKKa got maybe 1/10 of them. Black people weren't the only slaves. Black people weren't the only people treated like dirt. Any policies put in place that negatively affected black people also affected poor white people. Redlining affected more white people because it was a 90% white country at the time.KKK did terrible things, but they didn't do quite the damage that black people are doing today. But somehow blacknpeople ignore that. Also the KKK wasn't everywhere. At this point is just another excuse.“Black Wall st” was basically a strip mall. The reason it got demolished is because Diamond Peepee sexually assaulted a woman. Then other black people shit people in protest. Accountability?You don't get to radio broadcast for one side of a fight and claim someone else is ignorant. How does any of this equate to a young black boy today not gettin... (0)

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systemic racism and AmeriKKKan white people are why it's so high

graph is literally comparing them to africa

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yea because Africa is totally untouched by the whites :marseyeyeroll:


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White people have been present in Africa since the Stone Age, chud. They're practically indigenous.

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For the most part yeah there are still communities in Africa that don't even know white people exist

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yea I made a thread about it


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Look what AmeriKKKans took from you. :marseymutt:

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holy shit this whole exchange is great

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I'm having fun!

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Who are these rightoids still on Reddit? I never chudded out or argued politics and I had to give up on Reddit years ago.

If I was explicitly discussing black crime stats then I imagine I'd have been banned from Reddit a decade ago.

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I dont get it either. I got banned from all the main subs like 7 yrs ago just for a little benign schizo posting

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there's decidedly too much nooticing going on and the jannies are totally derelicting their duty :marseyrage:

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I need glasses I looked that that and I was wondering how they misspelled atheist.

Didn't even see the “L”

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It'll be PCM first.

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Someone get Big B on the case

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The IQ argument is always amusing to me. Apparently you need to be a genius to not break the law.

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You need a minimum of 100 IQ to not have poor impulse control, which I don't think AmeriKKKan blacks are capable of compared to blacks in other places of the earth.


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Then why haven't I ever broken the law? Mine's considerably lower than that.

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The chart is using data from 2016, and apparently, some of the African countries have much lower homicide rates now.

Nigeria is about the same, but e.g. Namibia fell to 12.6, Botswana to 10.5 and Rwanda to 3.6.

South Africa, on the other hand, grew to 41.9 :marseybooba:

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nigeria also has a massive terrorism problem in the north

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The problem I have with the whole “poverty leads to crime,” meme is that I grew up on my parents' stories of life during the Great Depression. I'd be happy to tell them to you, but you might not believe them. The poverty that untold millions of AmeriKKKans experienced can only be described as horrific, but most of them didn't become criminals.

Not trying to be rude, but just saying even during the worst of times in AmeriKKKa ( Great Depression, financial crisis of 2008. it still much better than in majority of the world. I come from a very poor country where living during Great Depression would be considered luxury. Unfortunately most countries that are like mine are filled with poverty and crimes.

:soyjakanimeglasses:Ummm sweaty barely surviving because you can't earn money doesn't count as Real Poverty. My poverty is Real Poverty because we do crimes :marseysmoothbrain:

Black lives matter more than Great Depression Era AmeriKKKans lives

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They said themselves in another comment they think it's genetics. Only genetics.

But what if it is tho...

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My guess would be that ethnic enclaves in the US have similar crime rates to their countries of origin. Not just black but Asian, Indian, Arab, European, etc. it's probably easy that check in the data but I'm too lazy.

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:#marseysoylentgrintalking:Are you seriously suggesting africans from Africa living in amerikkka aren't subject to the same racism?

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His portrayal of the stats and lack of context and all the other variables is what makes OP a racist. They said themselves in another comment they think it's genetics. Only genetics.:

I'm on the 20%I think it's genetic:

I agree with all, but media not sure how that's relevant.:

Couple of points:1) Poverty is #1 indicator of crimes, that is an established fact by almost every reputable study.2) I would argue your parents didn't know true poverty. Not trying to be rude, but just saying even during the worst of times in AmeriKKKa ( Great Depression, financial crisis of 2008. it still much better than in majority of the world. I come from a very poor country where living during Great Depression would be considered luxury. Unfortunately most countries that are like mine are filled with poverty and crimes.3) Poverty is not the only thing that causes crime and I mentioned the other one: culture. There are people in Japan, for example, that are much poorer than some poor people in AmeriKKKa, yet crime rates in Japan have been historically low because stealing, robbery and other crime is very dishonoring in Japanese culture. They don't have a lot of drug problems either. In USA, people are very materialistic, black culture doesn't put emphasis on education, academ...:

The number one indicator of violent crime rate is poverty. The fact is, the richer the nation (across all strata of society), the less likely violent crime will be. There are other pertinent indicators, like overall societal values and cultural hegemony. Most other factors people tend to consider usually lend themselves to factors that are indicative of economic success, like education and family stability. One need only look at States like Alabama, Missouri, Mississippi, etc., where even the white communities have high rates of crime despite cultural hegemony and generally peaceful values largely because of limited economic opportunity and overall poverty.The fact is, that most black communities in the US (because of systemic racism) tend to be very poor, which in turn leads to higher rates of crime and a culture of violence. Similarly, most of Africa hasn't been independent for more than a couple generations--many countries didn't gain independence until the 60s.These countries ha...:

I have looked into the entire picture. Have you? Slavery was everywhere. Slaves that left Africa on boat mostly went to South AmeriKKKa. North AmeriKKKa got maybe 1/10 of them. Black people weren't the only slaves. Black people weren't the only people treated like dirt. Any policies put in place that negatively affected black people also affected poor white people. Redlining affected more white people because it was a 90% white country at the time.KKK did terrible things, but they didn't do quite the damage that black people are doing today. But somehow blacknpeople ignore that. Also the KKK wasn't everywhere. At this point is just another excuse.“Black Wall st” was basically a strip mall. The reason it got demolished is because Diamond Peepee sexually assaulted a woman. Then other black people shit people in protest. Accountability?You don't get to radio broadcast for one side of a fight and claim someone else is ignorant. How does any of this equate to a young black boy today not gettin...:

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