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people forgetting that these “unaware” people aren't value neutral apoliticals. the average person has internalised white supremacist and patriarchal beliefs. So being clueless about cultural discourse means they essentially agree, and are bystanders to oppression
Actually I think you just don't realize that there's a lot of people who don't live their life online and really don't keep up with whatever twitter is meltingdown over. Try logging out for a while, you might like it!
actually i was referring to the consistent discrimination i face for being visibly queer, visibly brown, visibly neurodivergent. Offline.
"visibly queer, visibly brown, visibly neurodivergent". This is why you have no friends. You are so focused on your own identity that you no longer have the tiniest idea of how to connect to humans.
their definition of apolitical is just everything that has been “normalized”'in the environment they grew up in, which is not always a good thing
which is why a key part of g*mergate was the war against queer/race representation. being apolitical inevitably leads to minorities being banished from public life. scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds etc etc
It has been NINE FRICKING YEARS. Let it die holy frick
yes let's just ignore an important cultural event that has had considerable influence on todays online landscape for better or for worse
I've never heard a person mention g*mergate that wasn't terminally online
I'm sorry, but this is not appealing to me.
Himbo propaganda at its finest. There nothing appealing about someone divorced from social issues because these conversations are not just happening on social media spaces but in news media too. Man is living under the heaviest rock known to man.
Yeah, exactly. Like it's one thing to not catch a reference to an internet joke, but being unaware of a genocide that's dominating news? No, thank you, I'm good on that.
Noooo you have to care about events that are 7000 miles away noooo 
only white ppl can do this
minority groups are the ones actually affected by most of the discourse. I'd even stretch to say that only white cis men can do this.
just simply not true. you could literally not watch the news and disengage from social media like anyone else, especially if u live in murica.
Spoken like someone who hasn't had slurs screamed in their face for no reason. Lmao please sit this one out.
noooo i have to be terminally online because some people still say BIPOC noooo
This reeks of privilege. It's one thing to be unaware of the latest meme or other unimportant trends but to be unaware of the literal genocide happening right now is unforgivable. I can never stand people who live in their own privileged bubble.
Bro I don't know from the river to the sea and I actually use Twitter every day and youtube 24/7 and keep up with politics more than the average person...... I'm privileged for that?🤣🤣🤣 this is some stupid butt shit
noooo you cant just go outside and not care about the news noooo
Chronically online people being surprised by the mass populace is so funny to me.
This does not represent the mass populace
just because you live online or twitter doesn't mean the mass percentage of people do the same.
I did not suffer through 2 months of bud light and pro noun jokes at work just to be told it's something only terminally online people care about
The truth is that the mass populace is chronically online, has been since COVID.
Chronically online take
None of my friends over 25 are online anymore 🤣 just me they are hiking and living and I'm online learning useless stuff that non online people don't care about at all
>I'm online learning useless stuff that non online people don't care about at all
One day i will found someone who appreciates my vast austic knowledge of niche internet drama
Young people blissfully unaware of the mainstream online culture are usually hard working, happy and a pleasure to be around
Only people I have heard that are like this age foreign students coming to the US through scholarships.
This guy doesn't talk to normal people
Ironically the idea that the ”perfect person” is the opposite extreme of whatever being chronically online is is in itself a chronically online take. I live in a small rural town full of people like this and let me fricking tell you it is NOT good.
No actually, being fully unaware of and uninterested in social and political developments both local and worldwide makes you deathly fricking uninteresting to be around and morally lazy as heck. Not to mention how privileged you need to be for this which of course they all are.
I'm as put off by the chronically online as the next person, but I promise you the better alternative is not the opposite. The better alternative IMO is to be aware but to know which battles to choose, to care but not to your own detriment and to take action where it matters.
>I'm as put off by the chronically online as the next person
>but I promise you the better alternative is not the opposite
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I've asked before here and I'm still not entirely clear on what G*mergate was. I'm not saying this to signal Offlineness or anything—I literally administrate a website about internet gossip—I am saying it to point out what a FRICKING LOSER anyone who understands it is.
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G*merGate was similar to Atheism+ where you really saw the battle lines being draw in the culture war. You can draw a pretty straight through line from those divisions to the divisions in the culture war today.
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Okay so this girl made a game called "Depression Quest" and then a journ*list I think at Kotaku? Gave it a good review because he slept with her and then... umm
... hi carp 
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She didn't even make a game, she just wrote a bunch of HTML text with different links CYOA style on a blog, it wasn't even a video game
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oh come on. dont gatekeep what a game is.
if someone makes pacman in excel it's still packman
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Is a choose your own adventure story a game?
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shit it gets quite philosophical quick, like is chess or motorcycleraces a sport.
I guess a lot of games are computer risk now a days?
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neighbor this isnt some pigeon race shit. not even disputable
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is dnd a board game?
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No it's gay shit for cute twinks
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is solitaire a game?
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Yes
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You can gatekeep if she made it, though. She almost certainly wrote the words, important for a text game, but there's others credited for also making it and she's shown subsequently that she can't program a darn thing on her own.
Also a very easy 'win' for the lefties is to point out she never got a positive review from one of the guys she slept with, so everything else you say about her is a lie. She just got positive coverage, which is completely different.
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She hired a """""programmer""""" to make it in Twine. I highly recommend looking up Twine just to full understand how r-slurred and zero-effort this is. It's like hiring someone to make a Powerpoint.
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The g*mergate saga is one piece of internet drama history that I still don't know. I tried watching a video aboit it once but it was so
that I skipped it. It seems like it was the personal 9/11 for the chronically online
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My understanding of it is someone made a bad game called Depression Quest and someone gave it a good review because he fricked the dev and somehow that Anita Sarkeesian person got involved and ethics in gaming journ*lism but I don't see how that is some huge year-long debacle with bomb threats or whatever or why anyone cared so I'm sure there's more to it
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Well obviously because m*n were involved and said a woman did a bad thing. This can't possibly be true, so they are clearly sexist losers that hate women and are probably Nazis.
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you're STILL seething about it
that's really embarrassing
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oh I see, this is a gimmick account. my bad
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How do you know it's a gimmick account?
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Whose seething now? U mad
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Don't forget Reddit Jannie's doing there thing and creating a Streisand effect.
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How do you know about it then?
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This but unironically
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Nah thats basically it, Journos circled the wagon and it (allegedaly) this spiraled into the grand 4chan consirpacy that cheated Trump (pbuh) into office
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It was one of the first shows of force of online leftism for something completely cynical and wrong.
The biggest part of the controversy was the gaslamping around it being normal. If it happened today nobody would give a shit because that blatant tribalism is normalized now.
Jewish lives matter when they aren't between the river and the sea
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But Jewish lives matter between the river and the sea
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Leftoids literally believe that g*mergate caused Trump to be elected. Its in the democrat canon
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Its kinda true though because g*mergate proved journ*lists were r-slurred and easily baited which practically won trump the presidential
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it was the first domino to fall tbh
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I want her to get involved with me. Romantically involved.
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Man her carpet must be impressive
i wanna suck the g*mer gunk right out of it
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I mostly remember being confused why anyone os surprised that gayming journoids are a bunch of corrupt r-slurs.
But thinking about it... i have no idea how it morphed into the general culture war discourse and when it stopped being its own thing or anything more really. I guess it got swept up and diluted into the general "orange man bad" hysteria of 2015/16?
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It was kinda hilarious because the jilted boyfriend was drama pilled and published this massive manifesto. If everyone ignored it, one womans crappy game would have disappeared over the weekend. But every gaming journo came out and decided to torch their careers by making stupid comments about white m*le g*mers. Ironically revealing the whole journo cult of manufactured consent
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Hi carp
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I could actually pull an email from 9/11 or whatever date G@mergate first happened where I describe how fat ugly nerds fricked at a conference (surely their right) and the whole thing makes no sense.
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I looked it up one time when I was really bored and was pretty surprised. Some guy got cucked and whined about it and there was immediately a massive coordinated media campaign against him and "g*mers".
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All while claiming there was no coordination. All their harassers were coordinating, of course, but they were just innocent journ*lists and minorities.
Then the JournoList was uncovered, where they were collaborating. So really it was a bunch of people with a legitimate complaint being told by not just dangerhairs online, but by the media big and small, game-related and not, that what they actually were complaining about was minorities having an opinion. And of course the more you deny it the more you're proving them right.
These tiny, r-slurred sparks always seem to be an indefensible person being defended by people who decide to make it about idpol rather than the fact a shitty person was being shitty. There was even an inception moment with Sarah Butts being uncovered as a libertarian, but because it was done by GGers and she was trans they all defended her, said it was all lies, put Butts in their Twitter handles to show solidarity, etc.
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my mom watched pro GG videos the whole time and I was secretly anti GG to spite her
and also bc a guy creeped on me on a public mincecraft server and they were mean to me for being A GIRL even tho I know how to make flip flop gates in redstone (im NOT stupid...) >:(
but when I got mad about MEAN BOYS in video games my mom got very angry and started making comparisons to the fall of rome, because now fat ugly women are going to make all the games, tv, literature, and more
all that went a little over my head
I was 14 or smth
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I thought I was exchanging comments with a well spoke black man from Uganda tbh
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History proved her right
also right
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Stage One: Initially the sign (image or representation) is a reflection of basic reality.
Stage Two: The sign masks a basic reality. The image becomes a distortion of reality.
Stage Three: The sign marks the absence of basic reality. The image calls into question what the reality is and if it even exists.
Stage Four: The sign bears no relation to any reality whatsoever; it is its own pure simulacrum.
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Stage Five:
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It's also a type of ant
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I thought for a long time the name was some clever reference to this animal. It isn't.
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G*mergate is this one time where Anita Sarkeesian went up to some g*mers and said
And the g*mers said “No we haven't” and then Anita said
So then Anita called up her friend Zoe and they handcuffed the g*mers to a stripper pole in her basement and made them beg her for mercy while she recorded it
And then she made them lick her feet and call her a goddess until she let them go
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!incels POV you die and these two angels are reviewing your internet post history at the gates of Sheaven (God is a woman, chud)
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Gnostic wizards are in heck where there god lives
Trans lives matter
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Gnostics be like
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If only online Christian larpers picked up a book every once in awhile this image would never have been made
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only if you could comprehend the cruel game of magical chairs taking place in those forest, called food chain
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ofc god is a woman. she literally gave birth to the universe
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That's so weird, why would you do that...
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I would give up having fun vidya for the rest of my life just to spend an afternoon doing her laundry while she dommes me.
I love her so much bros. She can make me nut with a scowl and an eye roll.
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Where can I find this video
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Yep, can confirm. I was there. This is exactly what happened. Notorious braphog Zoe Quinn even sat on my face and kept farting over and over (this must have lasted hours) while I begged her to stop.
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What are those gifs from?
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after reading about it and seeing comments here and other places, it seems like it was a lot of g*mers' first realization that journ*lists, even GAMING ones
, are unreliable narrators at best
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G*mer girl genocide. Over 6 million e-girls were sent to the twitch ovens.
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Edit: found it
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Nah G*mergate was mainstream. The reason nobody understands it is the same reason nobody seems too remember Elsagate or who where COVID was first encountered-
MK Ultra worked, but not on the first try and not with the drug methodology.
Jewish lives matter and that's amusingly relevant here
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Holy mother of
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Brainmelting contentslop plus addictive algorithms at an early age will have a much larger effect on the youngin's than the weirdos.
!nonchuds Please note that when
@jesus protests something in defense of children, it's a LARP.
Jewish lives matter only because trans lives matter.
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Lol it's that same shit that leads kids to weirdos online, r-slur.
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R-sluration extreme
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do you remember the cute twinkgate? it was the day of your birth
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The 20th of April
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Oh I can explain!
B-but carp...
Summary here
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You can always
him
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i asked about it here, got several replies, I even asked questions based on those replies
still don't know what g*mer gate is
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Some dude wrote a really long blog post about how his girlfriend is a whore who banged a gaming journo for a positive review of her shit game, Depression Quest. Some people exclaimed, "I knew it! Those journos are worthless scum!" Some declared that the woman was indeed a whore. And then others (SJWs) bemoaned the fate of their damsel in distress (and the journos), so if anyone disagreed with them, they were called misogynistic racist trolling incels bad people, so people responded to the SJWs by mocking them, which made the SJW severely butthurt.
That's it, but the grifting reached high levels, and big meaniehead words were hurled at people. Unfortunately, many feelings were extremely hurt
, and journos remain worthless to this day.
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You forgot this DIERCTLY made Trump president
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I like how people say it directly did that. Then people mock them cause how absurd.
However the gaslamping piece of shit journos brought it upon themselves by blowing their load too early.
It was one of the first instances in the modern(social internet 3.0) internet where journos actively tried to suppress a narrative and tell people that they didn't see/read/witness what they think they did. Which did have a small effect into the Teflon Don internet smear campaign. Back around 2015/16 journos would claim Trump was going to start biological warfare cause he sneezed around another politician. The man could've personally cured cancer and they'd talk about him putting oncologists out of work. This was because journos felt an iota of power after gaslamping people.
I'll admit I don't know specific details about g*mergate but I know the general, someone slept with a reviewer, people got mad, “powers that be” tried to gaslamp into calling people complaining to be misogynistic incels (that term has lost all value) to change the narrative. And of course the typical lefty leaning socials ate it up because the journos were on “their side”.
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Now rightoid journos won't admit he made the covid vaccines.
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Neither will leftoids, to be fair.
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Centrists win again.
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i really want to hear this from the POV of someone who views this entire thing as more than just some typical trope of foid getting caught fricking up the
corporateladder.Cuz that's all I see it as, that's all you see it as, but I see too many references to it with too much seethe there has gotta be more....
maybe I'll craft a bait post and throw the line to Reddit lolol i just cant bring myself to figure out how to word it at the risk of it being a literal nothing burger
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I mean, it was also probably eye-opening for a lot of g*mers in regards to foid, journo and lefty nonsense.
Getting tarred and feathered as an evil bigot on Twitter was still fairly novel when it happened.
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A bunch of 'normal' young guys suddenly learned how scummy journaloids can be when they defend someone and just how blatantly they lie. This in turn created a massive backlash from guys online which wasn't in the progressive script. Some of those guys became rightoids or at the very least felt burnt out and had a harder time identifying with mainstream messaging (which is literally fascism).
So in my view libs got caught and then overcorrected and then became extremely anxious about moids not buying their shit anymore and so now they fantasize about an alternate history where the gaymers were all literal nazis and that if they had just #believedwomen and journos then Ruth Bader Ginsbirg would be president now and drumpf and putler would be in prison and everyone would heckin' wholesome chungus keanu.
Or something like that idfk everyone involved is r-slurred.
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I just remember all the pro "metoo" journos calling this dude a piece of shit for saying some chick cheated and abused him.
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yeh she fricked five guys, burgers and fries.
he got mad and wrote a blogpost about how she was awful and then offed himself
this was g*mers fault
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IIRC the guy that offed himself was a different ex boyfriend and he offed himself after he got blacklisted out of the industry from vague ‘abuse' allegations from Zoe Quinn.
The dude's sister was also a piece of work from what I remember and basically threw her brother under the bus after he committed suicide because she was a psychotic blue hair too.
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yeah idk what you mean by different
he was one of the many but I think he was like the OG and most dramatic since he blogposted and killed himself
i dont remember his name. aaron maybe
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a whole lot of completely random people got caught in the crossfire and accused of being on a side of the issue
and sometimes those people TOOK a side just because they were being yelled at, without knowing what's going on
[one round of the schoolyard game "telephone" later...]
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muh poor innocent men...having no agency...victim of circumstances
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Go ahead and see what you drag in, but that's the most accurate summary I came up with after reading his >9000-word crypost, some wiki nonsense, and some articles from there.
All that seethe is from the flamewar, which surprisingly at that time people didn't know they were in because they were mostly newstrags who got into their first spat and took it extremely seriously (and forever and ever, cannot
).
Redditors will probably get annoyed at that paragraph because it's an accurate portrayal of them.
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I used to know some game journos and yes it really is that simple. They are the most fricking bizarre mentally ill people I've ever known in my life. The only thing I can compare it to is Mean Girls. Socially awkward people who are desperately trying to fit in so they'll do anything for their cult.
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Women have always been mad as heck about being judged for fricking their way to the top, this cultural event was a turning point where you're not allowed to treat them differently for it now, e.g. Kamala
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The left belief is that GG was a bunch of men (the straight, cis, white is just assumed) decided to attack a woman because her bitter ex-boyfriend wrote a manifesto full of lies. They slutshamed her, and because she was a gamedev and they were evil right-wing g*mers, they started sending r*pe and death threats to any woman or minority who stood up to them being buttholes and thinking gaming was just for them.
It got linked to things like Charlottesville and Trump because these are all things that evil white men are responsible for due to their bigotry towards anyone different from them. Another retroactive association was that it was heavily transphobic, because hating people different from them of course means transphobia, now far more than 2014.
To these people, it was the idpol type they hate the most, fratbro types who they imagine wearing backwards baseball caps and high-fiving over tits, pushing back against progressive empathy. And they won with Trump, The Great Evil.
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The details of g*mergate DO NOT MATTER.
All you need to know is that it was the cultural pivot point for the video game hobby and industry where leftist SJW politics became the dominant ideology pushing out chuds and apolitical normies. Yes, there are still hold outs, but every AAA publisher and video game dev has embraced the libshit lessons of G*mergate at this point. The how's and why's are less important to know and will probably make you an neurodivergent loser once you fully map it out.
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Google says no man's sky was post-g*mergate so I firmly believe g*mergate was a good thing
Long live libshit
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Thank God I'm not the only one. I was fricking watching a lot of it unfolding live, and I still can't tell you what it was.
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I've probably spent two hours of my life in the last ten years reading about Gamegate, and all I can say for certain is that there's a game called 'Depression Quest' and it wasn't very good.
I think G*mergate is a concept that exists only in hour-long video essays, and just simply cannot translate to text.
This is the proper intelligible grammar of G*mergate:
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It is unironically next impossible to parse what G*merGate was in modern times because it ballooned into such a nebulous term and culture war that it dragged in a bunch of shit that really had nothing to do with it more or less.
Really it's just understood to be rightoid chud g*mers vs leftoid foid journ*lists and their supporters nowadays even though it is more nuanced than that.
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are we g*mergate
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If you asked Twitter or any vaguely leftoid subreddit, yes.
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Leftoid consolestrags absolutely would blame g*mergate for us existing.
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You're right, but it's more understood to be rightoid chud g*mers vs. All progressives. And of course all rightoid chud g*mers are cowardly bigots, so they wouldn't attack the men but would attack the women and queers because they hate anyone different from them.
That was the journ*list perspective, and was the mainstream narrative. Anita Sarkeesian and Chris Kluwe were both on The Colbert Report to talk about it, for example.
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we will know it one day
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Gaming news sites decided to focus on really gay ultra lib games about mental illness. G*mers revolted. Both sides claimed reasons for their side of the war and both are entirely fabricated.
This is the only unbiased summary you will ever get of g*mergate.
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An ex bf wrote a post about Zoe being abusive & cheating, sleeping with every person in a 1000 mile radius who could help out her shitty 1h long text game. Not knowing criticising women is misoginy. Gaamers got mad at her and shitty "journ*lists". Journ*list stroke back, neckbeards and mouthbreathers on both sides formed allegiances. Other journ*lists came in and rewrote herstory. Plenty of grifters on both sides tried to maximise grift. The birth of charachters like Milo, Anita Sarkisian, Brianna Wu et al.
And afterwhile not getting enough attention Zoe made up that some guy was moving her around his apartment using his finger as a hook in her peepee and he ended up killing himself after getting harrassed.
And then somehow Zoe spoke infront of the UN.
https://thezoepost.wordpress.com
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Further justification for TJD
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me too
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No, that was something else. G*mergate was the great leap forward, me too was the cultural revolution.
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IIRC it's just the larval form of the current year culture war but specifically focused on videogames.
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G*mergate is LITERALLY how drumpf got elected chud.
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Good sorevening
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This
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G*mergate is what ruined SRD.
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G*mers eat this bait every single time.
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Chick sleeps with dude for good game review of shitty game called depression quest. G*mers get angry about it, joutnalists write g*mer are dead articles. Later its discovered that games journ*lists have a private mailing list to coordinate their articles and g*mers get even more pissed.
Everyone bitches at each other until svu makes the fakest tv episode youll ever see. Then trump got elected and g*mergate is now a ghost that forces mysoginy and patriarchy into all BIPOC games which are superior to asian or white man games.
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