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EFFORTPOST WPATH phenology in shambles because of formal review by one woman :gigachadqueen: WPATH proceeds to go out kicking and screaming, albeit in a distinct falsetto pitch :marseywitchtriggered:

https://www.wpath.org/media/cms/Documents/Public%20Policies/2024/17.05.24%20Response%20Cass%20Review%20FINAL%20with%20ed%20note.pdf

I'm too busy (lazy) to do a real summary/writeup but for some good backstory see this post by @cyberdick :

https://rdrama.net/post/265508/sx-is-biological-fact-nhs-declares

Basically the former president of child medicine in the UK, Hilary Cass, did a formal paper dubbed the Cass review, showing exactly what has been repeatedly shown in every single review or study of giving kids hormones, which is that it literally does no good at most, and moreso can potentially do harm, violating not one but two core principles of medicine according to the Hippopotamus Oath. (source: me, I'm a nurse)

TLDR:
WPATH (World Amplifier for :marseytrain2: Hypocrisy) has FINALLY responded to the Cass review in a statement that literally amounts to "HILARY CASS ISNT A SPECIALIST OF BULLSHIT PSEUDOSCIENCE I MEAN TRANS MEDICINE! JUST BECAUSE SHE'S A BONEFIDE PHYSICIAN AND THE FORMER HEAD OF PEDIATRICS AND HAS WORKED WITH KIDS ALL HER LIFE DOESN'T MEAN SHE KNOWS HOW TRANS KIDS WORK REEEEEEEEEE"

https://i.rdrama.net/images/17161839378227787.webp

And that's it lol. That's all the WPATH (men) basically has to say in retort after getting chaos dunked by one doctor (woman). No attacking the heart of the issue which is literally that the trans body of evidence is as real as a pooner peepee or a neovagene.

:marseychaosdunk#: :marseytransattentionseeker#genocide:

You love to see it.

:marseytrain: jannys in full cope mode basically banning anyone who dares support the verboten science. In my own backyard as a long time activist in the skeptics movement against pseudoscience like chiropractic/acupuncture/homeopathy/naturopathy etc. it appears many people are being banned from the skepticism subreddit over this dilemma, myself included lol. This isn't too surprising sadly, because the skeptics movement was one of the first ones targeted by feminists actually in the early 2010's and then when that failed (see elevatorgate) and g*mergate got purchase, the "movement" was colonized by demasculinized soychugging ex-g*mergate nerds seeking revenge against their oppressors, the fourth-wave feminist foids, and they did so by using recycling foid logic against them by claiming their privilege as their own by :marseytrain2:ing out :marseychadneuro:, (spoiler alert, it worked! lol)

In any case though it's pretty funny now because of the hypocrisy from the :marseytrain: jannys has now come full circle, especially in the skeptics arena. They have fully exhausted the extent of their borrowed foid logic and now have defaulted to blatant shilling of :marseytrain: bullshit under the banner of nonstop bitching about there being NO EVIDENCE OF HARM! for giving kids hormones... EXCEPT UH... NO HORMONS CAUSES MORE SUICIDES... ACCORDING TO MY FATHER'S, BROTHER FORMERLY SISTER'S, NEPHEW'S, COUSIN'S, FORMER ROOMATE blah blah blah..

:marseytrain2: quacktivists have been doing this for years now, as we know. However, now there is CLEAR body of science-based evidence of the harm, how do they respond?

"THE EVIDENCE IS BIASED ASDFKJHDSAKJFEYKHUIRFGSKDJHFGGIHKDSdsakfjhgsdfkjhg"

(a.k.a. magic is real etc. etc. and if you disagree you are banned lol)

See related:

https://old.reddit.com/r/skeptic/comments/1cv87wg/wpath_respond_to_the_cass_review/

https://old.reddit.com/r/skeptic/comments/1ctkhyk/first_they_tried_to_cure_gayness_now_theyre/

https://old.reddit.com/r/skeptic/comments/1chxdew/cass_review_megathread_breakdown_and_trans_issues/

https://old.reddit.com/r/skeptic/comments/1c4sg1q/cass_review_megathread_strict_moderation_enforced/

Additional related threads, but mostly undiluted bathtub-grade cope:

https://old.reddit.com/r/medicine/comments/1cuzv8m/wpath_criticises_the_cass_report/

https://old.reddit.com/r/BlockedAndReported/comments/1cv6bvl/wpath_criticises_the_cass_review/

https://old.reddit.com/r/transgender/comments/1crkpzb/cass_review_author_says_leading_medical_org_only/

https://old.reddit.com/r/transgenderUK/comments/1cs2jey/cass_review_to_delay_gic_pilot_green_lighting/

https://old.reddit.com/r/lgbt/comments/1cot6w9/hillary_cass_author_of_the_cass_review_thinks/

https://old.reddit.com/r/EnoughJKRowling/comments/1ck7h95/does_jk_rowling_not_realize_scientific_review/

https://old.reddit.com/r/4tran4/comments/1cj4fc5/the_guardians_diy_hrt_story_just_dropped/

Cass review? More like the Dude Ur Casstrated Review lmao

!thin !LGBT !transphobes don't buy cat spike strips if your cat is frickin' fat and/or trans, it's a scam and won't deter them.

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1716183938025766.webp :#marseyqueeriepat:

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I responded to you directly regarding the Chen post. Did you forget or just trying to shill?

https://rdrama.net/h/transgender/post/254378/groomers-are-giving-kids-hormones/6136840#context

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Because you literally ignored the point I made about being an Ioannidis convert like all r-slurs do and proceeded to ramble about how tHE eviDEnCE IS AcKtuAlLY BiAseD without applying the same standards to the data you hold up as gospel, did you even read what I shared or are you just trying to shill?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Why_Most_Published_Research_Findings_Are_False

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>medicine has a replication crisis so i can ignore this repeatedly replicated finding and believe whatever i want

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The postulates of science-based medicine and to a lesser degree evidence-based medicine are underpinned by the Hippocratic oath to first do no harm, and then do good. If there's any question in the former, the practice in principle should stopped and only done under good controls, which is how they teased out how complicated shit heart surgery like mammary artery ligation actually did no good until they literally had a control group where they did a mock surgery on the patient compared to one who didn't get the actual heart procedure:

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(19)31120-1/abstract

You can b-word and cry all you want but none of that turns the burden of proof on it's head which is all you are doing lmao

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>appeal to hippocrates

https://i.rdrama.net/images/17161863810447965.webp

I dunno seems like a good argument for keeping the decision localized to parents and specific doctors, and not the Bong bureaucracy fetishists.

This is the same game played by people who deny evidence surrounding the concept of IQ -- hold the concept to a uniquely high standard of evidence nothing else is held to and claim it doesnt meet that standard of evidence.

Transphobes did the same exact thing with adult transgender medicine during the Reagan administration with the Raymond report, which follows a strikingly similar pattern -- commission a known transphobe who had nothing to do with trans medicine to write a report claiming there isnt enough evidence, and then use that report itself as evidence that there isnt enough evidence.

People who believe what you believe have been claiming there will be a massive detransition wave any day now for over a decade, why should anybody listen to them? You can only cry wolf for so long, which is why you feel the need to push blanket bans not used in any other medical situation to prevent the truth from coming to light.

:marseydisagree: unlearn your transmisia

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:marseywords#: Here's your prescription: https://i.rdrama.net/images/17161869423345022.webp

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You can be your own doctor and a fool! But you already know this

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https://media.giphy.com/media/26BGJ1Ih5NfJsKJm8/giphy.webp

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Tldr?

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:marseyxd: knew there would be :marseytranscope: in this thread

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the ack's are coming from inside the house

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https://media.giphy.com/media/13ea4eXuOuQsmY/giphy.webp

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:siren: :siren: TRIMPOUT ALERT :siren: :siren:

:transtantrum: :!transtantrum: :transtantrum: :!transtantrum:

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You and @DWHITE___________DYNAMITE shluld do a live-streamed debate

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I'll do it simultaneously while beating @PoonstaryerCaribeaner at vidya for /h/kappa to defend your honor and in the name of trans rights

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@MeowMixed when is the debate :marseyshapiro:

Also CDO keep yourself safe

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i'm not live streaming anything on this account dawg

it's only a matter of years before AI can be used to run a lookup function on your voice and dox you

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:(

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:#transtantrumtalking:

:#marseysneed:

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