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EFFORTPOST Midwits and an neurodivergent have a semantics fight

https://x.com/lookoutitsbbear/status/1794962035714785570

								

								

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I am not an electrical or comp sci engineer but I have had some experience on the electrical side of things lately and have started becoming familiar with signal processing, so bear with me for minor mistakes if you are one of the nerds familiar with it. For those of you who are too :marseygigaretard: or not deep enough on the :marseyautism: spectrum to understand signal processing, all you need to know is this: noise is not data. It is never data. A good signals engineer must attempt to minimize noise as much as possible.

Neuralink put out some request recently asking for some insane level of compression on a file (wanting 200x compression) with a transmitted signal, and that this must be lossless (meaning the original file data can be perfectly recovered from the compressed file data). Neurodivergents online immediately set out working on this to determine what the max amount of compression is. Enter our king and hero, moderate rock (user @ lookoutitsbbear).

MR states that so far he's found a way to compress the initial data file by a factor of 4.1, the most seen so far.

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1716956194730074.webp

Curious as to how, people start asking how well this actually works.

https://i.rdrama.net/images/17169561951916416.webp

https://x.com/lookoutitsbbear/status/1794962035714785570

And this is where all heck breaks loose. See, Neuralink had technically asked for the original file to be compressed without any data lost. To the average midwit and/or software engineer, this means taking the original file and just making it smaller. But MR did what any good signal engineer would do, and worked on filtering the signal to get rid of unwanted and unnecessary information (the noise) so that he could do a better job of compressing the data. Midwits do not understand that noise is not relevant for a signal's information. And because of this, MR has sinned and for this, he must be dunked on. So the beatings commence.

https://i.rdrama.net/images/17169561953706923.webp

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https://i.rdrama.net/images/17169561957132463.webp

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:soyjakanimeglasses: "Heh kid, just google it. You idiot. You moron."

https://i.rdrama.net/images/17169561966286395.webp

:marseynpc2: There are multiple midwits continuing to repeat the "noise is data" line, as though repeating it makes it true.

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1716956196945157.webp

Once again, noise is not a relevant part of a signal.

https://i.rdrama.net/images/17169561971446683.webp

https://i.rdrama.net/images/17169561973938684.webp

The midwit bonanza continues, once again acting as though if noise is an important part of a signal.

https://i.rdrama.net/images/17169561977925656.webp

https://i.rdrama.net/images/17169561981564393.webp

Quote tweets even gain major traction dunking on him even though they're all wrong.

https://i.rdrama.net/images/17169561988392103.webp

MR makes a quote tweet that at least gains traction with people who understand him, and the semantics argument becomes a bit more present.

Yes, on a technical level it is not lossless, as MR removed "information." But the "information" he removed is not relevant. The original signal present in the original file is recoverable after the compression. So he has done it correctly. MR also points out that the Neuralink engineers are being stupid because they should be working on getting rid of the noise before working on the compression.

https://i.rdrama.net/images/17169561990187755.webp

Of course, the midwits can't admit they're wrong and continue to argue the semantics.

https://i.rdrama.net/images/17169561993598144.webp

https://i.rdrama.net/images/17169561994864933.webp

https://i.rdrama.net/images/17169561996121504.webp

https://i.rdrama.net/images/17169568723472571.webp

Someone who actually makes a decent enough analogy to understand what he's getting at.

There is a lot of continued insults and attempts at dunks here (too many for me to add at this point) and midwits continue try to dunk on him and he continues to shrug it off.

Adding to the hilarity, a PhD looks at the Neuralink thing and comes to the same conclusion on his own, that removing noise from the signal will help compression.

https://x.com/CJHandmer/status/1795486204185682315

https://x.com/kindgracekind/status/1795577979952845220

https://i.rdrama.net/images/17169569731511064.webp

(some cope in the replies of this one that MR was "wrong" because of how he stated it, even though he wasn't)

https://i.rdrama.net/images/17169568721180365.webp

Finally, our king decides to take a rest, having survived his beatings and coming out stronger :marseykneel:

So remember dramatards: your average midwit has no clue what they're talking about, software engineers should stick to learning to code, and you should always listen to the neurodivergent savants :marseythumbsup:

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Neuralink's fault for saying "lossless" when they mean "without losing any relevant information."

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when they mean "without losing any relevant information."

They compare directly to the original file. Everything is relevant information.

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lossless compression of noise by a factor 200x is absurd. even 4x seems impossible.

since neuralink asked for 200x, they clearly didn't actually mean truly lossless compression.

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The actual issue is that without knowledge of the experimental setup itself it's impossible to know what "noise" would truly mean.

Midwits who can only conceive noise as high frequencies and think a low pass filter is a panacea should just stop talking forever.

"Wow there's a high spectral peak at 60Hz that's surely my signal" :marseyclueless:

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Letter of the law vs Spirit of the law

They don't want to lose any of the sick tunes; they don't give af if you filter out the dude breathing behind the microphone

https://i.rdrama.net/images/17170112917532177.webp

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