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USA is a scam. :marseyburger: I say it as a European. :marseybong: : antiwork

https://old.reddit.com/r/antiwork/comments/r77mb4/usa_is_a_scam_i_say_it_as_a_european?sort=controversial

OP is legitimately mentally ill, all she does is complain on Antiwork and Childfree about how she hates working 40 hours a week with two job just to spoil her child.

:https://old.reddit.com/r/childfree/comments/qye7fe/i_dont_want_to_work_40_hoursweek/?utm_medium=android_app&=&sort=controversial;utm_source=share

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Hey Jamie, pull up the US-EU bilateral migration statistics.

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What does this mean? I like stats pls share

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Compare how many people immigrate to the US vs those that emmigrate away from the US. Here, let me pull up R and do a quick plot. All countries are above the diagonal, indicating more people from the EU countries are immigrating to the US than vice versa, indicating more people prefer to live in the US than the EU. Data from https://migrationpolicy.org/programs/data-hub/charts/immigrant-and-emigrant-populations-country-origin-and-destination.

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Here, let me pull up R and do a quick plot.

least neurodivergent rdrama poster

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Yes, imagine using R when pandas+numpy+matplotlib+statsmodels lets you do the exact same things while having a general purpose programming language attached to them.

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library(tidyverse) goes brrrrr

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(((tiddyverse)))

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One google search later: nflfastpy

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just use excel lmao

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I mean this graph would be perfect if immigration was equally difficult bi-directionally. There’s also lots of people who work in the US and retire to their home country to avoid 🏀 in their retirement…

Still, when I looked at immigrating to Austria I would have to almost half my salary… US just needs to sort its healthcare and housing and it would cuck every euro nation a million times over

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Attributing the discrepancies to immigration difficulty means that the US has a laxer immigration policy than EU nations, which the typical open borders shitlib should love.

I would absolutely love for the US to get a handle on military and healthcare spending, because it is subsidizing the rest of the world through that. Pharma companies make half their revenues in the US - if we got our costs under control, OMG.

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Don’t hold your breath. The power dynamics that lead to cost creep are so systemically-entrenched in the health industry.

There are a few paths forward to reverse the trend, but it would require expanding Medicaid eligibility but lowering the range of covered services so that you could better leverage govt buying power against local health providers.

But good lord I’ve spent my career with only marginal success pushing this line of thought. The left hates the idea of reducing coverage, the right hates the idea of covering able-bodied adults, and you have the most powerful lobbyists in the country like the American Medical Association high off their own supply, and god help you if you run into a self-righteous MD.


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One huge racket I've heard of is how the AMA restricts the number of residencies. Some fields (e.g. ENTs) keep supply really low so they can continue to pull the big bucks for doing relatively simple and routine procedures (e.g. ear tubes and tonsillectomies).

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Restricts scope-of-practice for mid level providers even though 80% of an MDs job can be done by a nurse-practitioner, objects to accreditation for new medical schools, refuses to recognize foreign medical licenses and encourages local chapters to oppose recognition of accreditation from other states.

And in the context of all of this, the reality is that one’s health is far more dependent on their behaviors, genetics and environment. Far more than health care access has ever been or will ever be. And it’s almost a quarter of our whole economy.


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I would absolutely love for the US to get a handle on military ... spending

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How much estrogen do you ingest daily?

I'd unironically rather have overwhelming military capability and cutting edge boom boom machines than fund r-slurred shit like early childhood education for useless poors.

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Imagine being so cucked that you want to subsidize western Europe's military defense.

Couldn't be me.

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It increases my chances of getting to fight Russians before I get too old to deploy 🤙

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Just go to a nightclub near Brighton Beach and say the second Russian phrase in my signature.

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The US has extremely lax immigration for educated work migration, which ironically is really difficult in yurop. Fitting with that is how the living standard for the rich is very high in the US, higher than most of yurop, so there is a good amount of brain/wallet drain where people get educated in yurop and enjoy BBall-free school and cheaper university, and once they get rich, they dont pay the "investment" back, but go to the US and keep the money.

Meanwhile reeeefuge law, which is the only thing open border spergs actually care about, in yurop is just cucked by ivory tower academics and the (eu) politicians they "advise". Its objectively broken, but thanks to moral busybodies it won't change. The US has a more normal raypfugee law, but also the worst of refugee pressure is an ocean away from burgerstan, making it a lot easier to deal with.

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Fitting with that is how the living standard for the rich is very high in the US, higher than most of yurop

Most? I think you mean all when you take the better weather into account.

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USA has far superior housing to most Euro countries due to the large NIMBY lobby back in the old world.

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Oh thats good stuff ill save this for when someone commentsabout how much better EU isand blah blah blah. Those color labels are butt tho but ill see if i can make something look prettier later. Good to see another Rcel on here

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With that many colors it's impossible to do meaningful differentiation by color. ColorBrewer maxes out with 9 colors for the qualitative palettes. You could color it by region, but I didn't bother. You could try shapes.

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Id probs just do shapes and then make graphs for each region (ie have western europe, central europe, balkans, maybe northern europe/other)

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It makes a lot of sense if there’s a lot of data. The line represents an equality mark and you see where you fall on the line.

Though seeing someone use R instead of Matplot or Seaborn is causing me baby-rage

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from seaborn import gofuckyourself
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Your_bussy <- my_pee_pee

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I wonder if it's possible to use flag emojis

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This is bad economics akin to “if people come from monkey why there still monkey?”

It’s a safe assumption that migration the US allows comes from international households at higher income ends. So this just tells me people would rather be rich in the US than anywhere else. Fun fact for ya, in the US, the ethnic group with the highest proportion of PhDs are Nigerian; we don’t allow them in otherwise.

If she’s bitching on r/antiwork she’s probably poor, and frankly I imagine life’s better as a europoor than American poor, and this is based off international quality-of-life surveys that consistently rank American poor as the biggest sad sacks. Why? Probably because they’re surrounded by evidence of their relative failures.

I was a migration economist for a while and still advocate for throwing open the borders. Women only though when we’re talking about strife-laden shitholes


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If the US allows only immigration from higher-income households yet still has about 5x the immigration compared to emigration, that means that people really want to immigrate vs emigrate.

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Or that they don't speak Austrian.

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Well no shit you’d rather enjoy your wealth in the US than elsewhere. Given how obsessed r/antiwork is about class dynamics, your graph probably affirms their beliefs about how the US treats high earners. So enviable that the wealthy from other countries flock over.

I suppose I do believe that, but I don’t believe its a bad thing.


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I have no idea why you'd think a plot makes more sense than a bar graph to display this data.


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:marseycoin::marseycoin::marseycoin:
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I have no idea

That's why I get paid the big bucks and you don't.

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You're comparing two numbers, a scatter plot is a ridiculous tool for this job.


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Scatter plots allow quick comparisons of two numbers.

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It makes anything beyond a directional difference less salient. And what's up with the scale you're using?


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Wrong.

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You've never heard of log scales and you are trying to lecture me on plotting?

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27 pairs of bars would be messy, with the scatterplot he can just include the y=x line like he did and see at a glance that all EU countries have more emigration to the US than the opposite.

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Also statcels don't make the big bucks unless you're a Quant lol.


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Lol ok 👌

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I honestly don’t understand your argument.

The only inferior point for a scatter plot is the legend, but the point of his plot wasn’t to show any particular country, just to show that EVERY country was net positive to the US.


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The degree of te difference seems important and is not immediately apparent in this graph. Maybe stats majors know how to pull out that the average distance from the x=y line implies a 5x immigration rate to the US but it's not at all clear to a layman. Just a table would be more clear than this.


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I agree people recognize tables easier than scatter plots, but the dude was flexing R, which meant his audience was nerds who can’t get a STATA license, and for them a scatter plot is probably a much quicker way to get the point he was making.


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Burgers are too r-slurred to leave.

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Imagine not using SPSS

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these numbers arent too informative because most of these countries are absolute shitholes gdp wise. only a real human bean would migrate from the us to romania.

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Why would you use colours that are really similar to mark each country. What a disgusting graph.

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Because I was lazy and wanted a colorful graph.

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I completely forgot R existed.

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NOOOO :marseysnoo: YOU CAN'T JUST LOOK AT THE DATA YOURSELF NOOOOOOO :soycry: YOU HAVE TO DO A PEER REVIEWED DOUBLE BLINDED $1 BILLION NIH FUNDED STUDY TO INFORM YOUR OPINIONS ABOUT ANY TOPIC NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO :soyjackwow:

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God I fricking hate R, thanks tor the graph tho

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I read a guy DIE in the USA, because he didn't have money for INSULIN

Only 150 million to go.

pizza pizza pizza pizza pizza pizza pizza pizza pizza pizza pizza pizza pizza pizza pizza pizza pizza pizza pizza pizza pizza pizza pizza pizza pizza pizza pizza pizza pizza pizza pizza pizza pizza

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Wow you really like pizza. What's your fav topping?

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hot dogs :marseypedo:

pizza pizza pizza pizza pizza pizza pizza pizza pizza pizza pizza pizza pizza pizza pizza pizza pizza pizza pizza pizza pizza pizza pizza pizza pizza pizza pizza pizza pizza pizza pizza pizza pizza pizza pizza pizza pizza pizza pizza pizza pizza pizza pizza pizza pizza

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as a European

Always saves me from :marseylongpost2: and literal reddit opinions from the worst Americans.

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No real European would ever call themselves that lul, just like US people would never say "As a North American" why the frick would they?

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As part Irish, German, Italian I agree.

My parents? Born is Boston :marseycool:

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Most stable euro-foid

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https://i.rdrama.net/images/16841404578890831.webp

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hehe

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Working 40 hours a week with two jobs to support one child???

What In the ever loving frick??

There's no way this is possible.

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The lady definitely have it good.

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She have it gooder than she'd like to let all the orbiters on that thread in on if im being honest.

Mommy must love spoiling herself more than her child as it just does not compute how working two jobs for 40 hours doesn't leave enough income to support one child.

I'm familiar with mothers like this as it's what my ex is, currently. Minus custody of her own children :marseythumbsup:

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>23 years old

>European

>Asexual

>Handmaid's tale enjoyed

I normally think it's best for women's mental health to have children, but this foid might be the exception.

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Bongland left Europe why do they keep forgetting that?

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no way that foid is a bong. that was the worst english i've read.

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That just makes it more likely that it was a bong. The only people who speak English well here are foreigners who have been taught to speak it.

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Feel free to try to move to Australia

Why would anyone do that to themselves?

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Frick off we're full.

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Even some parts of cali have less taxes than the uk. We also make 50% more money before taxes on average. Stay poor britstrags.

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Ah yes, the NHS ambulance system is working wonders

10 percent of calls are Category 1 (heart attacks, choking, etc)

Hmm, maybe the other 90% should stop treating ambulances like a free Uber for their skin rash.

Some patients in Scotland have waited up to 40 hours for an ambulance. This led to at least one pensioner dying, and another 86-year-old woman lying on her kitchen floor for eight hours with a broken hip awaiting an ambulance.

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Texans Froze to death in their homes this year because our state government gutted our power grid for profit and then this same year we had another power outage and Texans burned to death in their own homes. Now winter is coming and the government super duper promises Texans won't freeze to death inside their homes. Again.

Edit: this is kind of starting to blow up but I have to get some sleep so I'll just autoreply to everyone here. Thank you so much for your kind words or stories or anything you've provided. It's made my day that my little comment made so many people rect in a positive way.

It's hilarious when redditors pretend the 2021 storm was a remotely normal occurrence and then one day of ERCOT telling people not to set their thermostats to 65 degrees when a nuclear plant is on fire is some kind of tragedy.

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Why is it an obsession for the left to fricking mald over fantasy scenarios that only exist in their heads? Go out and do your hobbies you dumb b-word and stop complaining about the children you do not have. Unless of course this is your hobby, which is a possibility.

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has no children. can't stop talking about children.

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The U.S doesn’t care about anyone, they care about money and power, you ever watched Star Wars? The U.S is The Empire

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I would have guessed that OP was 14-17 years old, this is one of the most pathetic posts on Antiwork and that says a lot

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That mught be true but europoors shouldn’t be saying it

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I found that most people that want kids never really have thought about their true passion, purpose or hobbies.

Heaven forbid someone wants to have kids instead putting together Lego sets

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Hey burgers! I don’t give a shit about my country. If you do? That’s a brainwashing :taynod:

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jfc I feel bad for her kid. It seems like she has a kid and is mad the kid wants shit everyone has? Every kid does this, but she seems mad at the kid.


Krayon sexually assaulted his sister. https://i.rdrama.net/images/17118241526738973.webp https://i.rdrama.net/images/17118241426254768.webp

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i'd only live in the USA if i was guaranteed to make at least like 60k/yr minimum. being poor in europe is miles better than being poor in the USA

from my understanding, in cities like LA or DC you have 3 million dollar family homes with ppl pulling six figures a year, but 500meters away you have ppl living in shitty flats, as poor as some gypsy in rural romania. and the rich wont pay for the poor ppls public services, so rich kids will go to well funded public schools, while poorcels go to rotting schools full of minorities

like in my high school class, i had ppl ranging from the poorest family not even owning a car and living in the same commie block their grandfather did 30 years ago, to the kid living in a suburban mansion with indoor AND outdoor pool, getting a bmw M3 for his 17th birthday before he even got his driving license. the difference is enormous but they're both getting the same education, and both can continue their studies at universities fully funded by the government

can some USAcel enlighten me, i dont know any americans and i dont want to talk to redditors

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like in my high school class, i had ppl ranging from the poorest family not even owning a car and living in the same commie block their grandfather did 30 years ago, to the kid living in a suburban mansion with indoor AND outdoor pool, getting a bmw M3 for his 17th birthday before he even got his driving license. the difference is enormous but they're both getting the same education

This is how it was in the US too for me. In my public high school we had super rich kids to homeless kids living out of a car and everything in between. Gangbangers (mexican varient) to Saudi princes who were confused at the lack of maids to bring them lunch.

rich kids will go to well funded public schools, while poorcels go to rotting schools full of minorities

Property taxes go towards public schools, so rich land owners are still paying for the public schools even if their kids don't go to them. How this is distributed varies from county to county. Most areas pool all the money from the county and split it up evenly between all the schools in the county based on number of students, but some of the most "progressive" counties will give the money only to the most local school leading to huge funding differences between the poor and rich areas of town.

i'd only live in the USA if i was guaranteed to make at least like 60k/yr minimum. being poor in europe is miles better than being poor in the USA

On a grad student stipend of 28k/yr for 5 years, I paid off all my undergrad debt, took two week+ vacations overseas, flew back home across the US for the holidays or events every year or more, built a new computer, bought a car, paid my copay for an emergency surgery, and ate out way more than I should have. Just don't live in a big city. I wasn't even out in the sticks or anything like that, just kind of general suburbia in mid-US.

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Good job bobby, here's a star

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how is this a longpost, takes 1 min to read maximum, frick you :marseycry:

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That's one minute of my life I'll never get back. I should know better than to read the comments of a European.

To answer your question, no truly well off person is gonna send their kid to a public school in a city. But they still gotta pay taxes to support it, which is a lot more than whatever the poors are paying. Those taxes also pay for the state universities, which are cheap enough already and have a lot of scholarships for poor people too. Graduate from there and your basically have to be a complete r-slur with a shit degree to not get a job paying around 60k right off the bat.

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