They organized the recipients in the following groups, "Eligible applicants were randomly assigned to one of three payment groups: A) $1,000 a month for 12 months, for a total of $12,000 in a year; B) $6,500 upon enrollment and $500 a month for the subsequent 11 months, for a total of $12,000 in a year, C) $50 a month for 12 months, for a total of $600 in a year."
This is odd, why don't they have a control group that received $0 per month? Could it be that they knew most of these people would find housing of their own volition regardless of the payment provided, and that by excluding an actual control group, they don't have to compare against the null results???
Maybe by providing $50/month to people that would find housing anyway, they could claim that participants showed these incredible improvements (ignoring the fact that the payments are not the reason why)?!?!? No, that would be disingenuous! Leftists wouldn't do such a thing!!!
Actually, that's exactly what's going on here. If you look at Figure 16 on page 27, it turns out that the $1000/mo payment is statistically no more likely to reduce the probability of a participant being unhoused as compared to the $50/mo payment. Does anyone actually believe that $50/mo is enough to solve homelessness? No, that's silly.
Leftists want to believe that UBI will work SO BADLY that they take taxpayer money, funnel it to a group of homeless people they know do not need it (they deliberately chose participants without disabilities and illness), construct a purposely deceptive "study" based on this scientifically unsound process, and then plaster the "promising results" all over the internet, using leftist propaganda accounts on X to trick people.
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The $50 is presumably so the homeless keep showing up for the study for over 400 days
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It should be distributed as coins thrown from the window of a car moving at high speed
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Should be distributed like this
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and they saw the same housing outcomes as the ones receiving $1000/mo
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The $50 is so that the near-homeless stop paying their rent, quit their jobs and sell their cars so taht they can get $50 for free.
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Good point actually
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A third of all three groups dropped out of the study so I guess it didn't work
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Probably died ...
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!anticommunists a "revolution" that requires taking hard-earned cash from actual working people via taxing so that hobos can be enabled to continue their panhandling and drug festivals in their shopping carts is, well, probably not worth it
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A true socialist approach to homelessness would have them all breaking rocks in an austere mountain gulag until they were fit to return to society
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Social parasitism is counter revolutionary, comrade
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BUT WHAT ABOUT THE HECCIN DISABLEDARINOS (fat white women who have mysteriously elusive diseases that make them unable to do anything except watch tv all day)?
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So we're they literally just giving them cash to spend at their discretion? Or was it like a card to an account that can only be used for certain things like EBT? I'm to lazy to read, sounds like prog money wasting nonsense that white women vote for
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Probably a debit card or something so they can track purchases.
If I got a free no strings attached 1k a month, I'd probably buy more Warhammer shit or blow it at titty bars or vietnamese coffee shops.
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Wow, one half of a mechanus set
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nobody wants to work. everyone wants water and electricity. (and food etc...)
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I was at my worst when I was NEETmaxxing
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Meanwhile Finland has erradicated homelessness by fricking giving people houses.
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I guess any hobo dying outside in freezing temperatures also kinda helps
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Same with ODing junkies/alcoholics.
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Finland's homeless probably arent drug addicts
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Yeah, being an alcoholic is normal for Fins I guess.
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Half of the pop is neet and half of the pop pays 50% taxes.
Like God (swt) intended.
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Hobos are either mentally ill or drug adicts. Giving them cash was always a brainlet take
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ill drug addicts weren't allowed to participate in this study. That's why they stopped being homeless 
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If you want more of something, subsidize it.
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Give me free money π°
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Okay
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Gambling is free money. Just gamble you will win.
!slots 1000
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!slots 2000
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It's true !slots 200
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just open a petting zoo
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My friends who know what good babies are at my mom's place are always begging to visit. And this is AFTER we gradually lost our herd of five lovely horses!
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Why don't all the lines start at 1? Only ~80% of group c were actually homeless when they started payments?
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There's a vertical line there so It could be that a big chunk of them just found housing really quickly. (Most homeless spells are very short term.)
Also, the lump sum group starts the highest. I'd bet that all three groups had comparable dips in homelessness at the start, but some of them lied about it because they didn't want to get kicked out. (They wouldn't have been. That would be bad study design to kick them out, but the filthy lying
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Or maybe they found housing between the time they signed up for the study and when the study actually started
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We follow the one drop rule here when it comes to homelessness
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Tbh 1000 bucks isn't enough to get a house outside idk, the Rio Grande Valley.
However, it is enough to load up on drugs and booze for a few weeks.
Regardless, money and housing was never the issue. It's untreated mental health issues and substance abuse. You gotta fix that before anything else.
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$1000 is a pretty solid chunk towards rent even in expensive parts of Denver. It's clear these people were not even close to trying to make ends meet.
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Why pay rent when I can buy 35 botaboxes?
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It's easily enough to get an apartment with a roommate or two in 90% of the country.
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Nobody wants to live with a hobo
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If this was actually implemented there would be a million ways that everyone with power could take their cut. Like they've all got charges for at least some very minor crime. So that means court fees, supervision fees, very expensive mandatory counseling... If the homeless actually had money to squeeze out of them, they would be constantly getting arrested.
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All the comments just outright malding are amazing. Props to the neurodivergent OP for fighting disinformation
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frick disabled people
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10/10 screenshotting skills.
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Thx bb
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they gave them 50 $ to make sure they fricking showed up and they could track them you fricking dofus.
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C got houses the fastest lol
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