words insideThe other day @Intervention posted something along the lines of "I remember when the gays were accusing Fauci of killing them."
This was in the context of some r drama conservatards (intervention literally being from r/conservative, the most r-slurred sub on reddit) trying to claim Fauci somehow failed to respond to the HIV epidemic.
The problem being, of course, is it wasn't Fauci, the CDC, or the NIH that failed. It was the Republican party and Ronald Reagan. It's not even remotely shocking intervention is unaware of this because she's a poorly educated moron and perpetually wrong about everything, but still.
Intervention, after another rightoid gave me an award to prevent me from dunking him, responded with this:
STFU wacko. I was alive to remember it and it's easily searchable.
Indeed b-word, it is easily searchable, and had you done so you'd have found this:
during the 1970s; by 1979, health professionals began to recognise an epidemic.9 In June 1981, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) published the first official US report on the new disease. Over the following months, AIDS took a swift and devastating toll on urban gay communities, with the hundreds of cases diagnosed that year representing only a tiny fraction of those already infected.10 However, the political climate deterred any proactive federal response. In keeping with his agenda of trimming federal government, the new president, Ronald Reagan, had cut budgets at the NIH and CDC. The social conservatives who helped elect him recoiled from a disease publicly associated with gay men—a strongly marginalised and stigmatised social group.11 Federal agency leaders expressed mounting frustrations over the next several years, as the administration blocked congressional appropriations for AIDS-related programmes and impeded the CDC’s attempts to mount prevention campaigns. Medical research at the NIH was relatively less affected by government recalcitrance, but for those already infected or at risk of contracting HIV little federal help was forthcoming. In 1983, activists succeeded in having AIDS designated a disability under Medicaid—but most AIDS patients died before receiving any benefits.
This is a common tactic you see Republicans engage in - they fail to respond to or block a government response to a serious issue, and then years later try to spin the failed response on other people - in this case Fauci.
In 30 years you can be sure the failed covid response will not be Donald Trump, but everyone else, just like somehow Fauci is to blame for Reagan failing to respond to HIV.
The lesson here, you dumb b-word, is that just because you lived through something doesn't mean you have any idea what you're talking about.
Anyone blaming Fauci for a failed HIV response is objectively fricking wrong and warping history.
R-slur #2.
Yeah, moron, not only do people act as projectiles inside the vehicle when unbelted, you can easily be flung out into traffic and cause more accidents:
https://clickorlando.com/traffic/2020/12/07/fatal-crash-closes-i-4-in-osceola-county/
There's way more here, but it isn't actually worth trying to argue with people claiming seatbelt laws are tyranny or that they only protect the individual.
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How will rightoids ever recover?
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Neither of your links show an ejected person causing injury to other people.
When you ride in a vehicle without someone wearing a seatbelt you're assuming the risk that that person's body may bonk you in the head and hurt you in the event of a crash. It's the same risk you take when you ride with someone who's been drinking.
Seatbelt laws are tyrannical and should be abolished.
“Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety"
- Iowa_hawkeye
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If you can be thrown into traffic, you can absolutely cause further accidents, people will obviously try to avoid hitting you.
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So find an example. Keep searching!
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Doesn't seem to be the case though and the laws aren't written like that's the case, especially with around half the states not requiring adults to wear seatbelts in the back seat and in many states it not even being a primary traffic offense.
The laws are written for personal protection, not for the protection of others.
Stop using extremely rare events to justify tyrannical laws that's purpose isn't even to stop those extremely rare cases.
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Anyone claiming seatbelt laws are tyranny literally deserves to be taken behind a shed and shot in the back of the head to prevent them from breeding.
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Same could be said for the tyrants, the tree of liberty is thirsty.
If people want to be dipshits and not wear a seat belt, let them. Don't justify your need for control over others by bringing up things that rarely ever happen.
I decided to look and seat belt laws are a primary offense in more states than I thought. Them being a primary offense is a big problem, all it takes is a LEO to say I didn't see your seatbelt on to pull you over and that gives the state more opportunity to violate your rights and waste your time.
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What is it with libertariantards and the misuse of that quote?
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I used the quote correctly.
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No, you didn't.
The entire context of that quote was Jefferson writing a letter to the US military when they were violently crushing an uprising against the government.
In fact the people rising up against the government were doing so over taxes, and were hanging tax collectors from trees:
The actual quote being:
He was talking about killing people that were revolting against government authority.
Unless I misunderstood you and you were saying this in response to me saying you should die.
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I think you should read the entire letter Jefferson wrote along with getting it in context with the letter he was replying to. Your Google cliffnotes are off the mark.
Now answer the more important question, are you a 🐸?
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Whereas people will happily just plow into the wreckage of your vehicle?
Can't we just say that crashes on the road increase the likelihood of other crashes on the road, and get rid the easiest excuse for cops to profile and wrongly pull over Black people?
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And so should beveraged driving laws for people who can pass a beveraged driving test.
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100% this hawkeye. I ain't going to give up my loli collection or stop hanging around public schools, lest I succumb to tyrannical rule
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yes the laws exist to protect individuals from stupidity. That is worth doing
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Hmm wow crazy almost like it’s possible to blame multiple people at once, just as these find homos seem to be blaming both Fauci and Reagan
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Literally all they had to do was wear condoms to avoid the million other STDs people knew about for centuries and they still couldn’t do that lmfao.
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It’s a part of the culture you wouldn’t get it.
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R-slurs being wrong doesn't mean Fauci was to blame.
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That’s not what
@Intervention said, she just said 80’s gay people said that. And she was right. Ur thing abt “who’s really to blame” is irrelevant cope
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Nice try r-slur, the entire context of that convo was trying to pin it on Fauci.
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Yet she was right on the facts and u were wrong - appeal to “muh context” is cope
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She was not right, and basic literacy should tell you why the context matters here.
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The gay community laid part of the blame for the AIDS pandemic correctly at Fauci's feet as depicted in this famous photograph.
The reasons for this blame were:
Fauci authored a paper claiming AIDS could be spread through "ordinary close contact" which contributed to turning AIDS patients into modern lepers until public figures like Princess Diana showed they were not afraid to touch them. Fauci later recanted but by then the damage had been done.
Fauci's first act as the new head of NIAID was to declare support for an AIDS vaccine. Forty years later, there is still no vaccine for AIDS. Hundreds of thousands of AIDS patients needlessly died in the 80s/90s while Fauci chased vaccines before private industry discovered therapeutics that could turn AIDS from a death sentence into something manageable.
Once private industry started finding pharmaceutical off-patent solutions, Fauci then threw his weight behind a failed cancer treatment AZT and allocated millions of dollars towards it despite the well-documented damage to liver and white blood cells. Safer drugs went unstudied by NIAID while AZT was fast-tracked through FDA approval and pushed not just to AIDS patients but to anyone who tested positive for HIV.
People have written literal books about Fauci's questionable pedigree (he had been failing upward for years before landing his appointment) and his numerous shortcomings and obsession with vaccines as head of NIAID. For example, after 9/11 Fauci immediately tasked NIAID with finding a vaccine for anthrax and wasted millions of dollars for close to a decade without success before finally admitting to Congress that the odds of dying from an anthrax attack were nonexistant.
AIDS may have emerged into the public consciousness during Reagan's tenure, but that was only eight years and Fauci was still mismanaging the issue long after Reagan was gone. Fauci has been in his position for close to four decades, during which this country was ravaged biannually with pandemic after pandemic while Fauci's only answer was to push vaccines, none of which ever made it to market or survived clinical trials (until, of course SARS-CoV2 changed the rules to not require them).
Or, conservatives rightly understand the foolishness of throwing good money after bad and look for "bottom up" solutions instead of "top down" ones. It was private industry which ultimately saved people from dying of AIDS, not Fauci nor the CDC/NIH/NIAID.
If you want to rename yourself "faucishill" go ahead but trying to dunk on rightoids by praising one of the most worthless and useless bureaucrats is something that rustled my jimmies enough to finally post.
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Wow listen to them crickets.
@pizzashill any response?
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Literally nothing in that comment is coherent.
One is a picture of some r-slurs blaming Fauci (they're wrong too.) and I fail to see how other r-slurs also being wrong somehow makes the rightoids correct.
The second is a paper he's lying about, this was fairly early on in the epidemic: talking about how HIV could possibly be spread by close contact but more research was needed.
The 3rd point was again, not Fauci somehow prolonging or making the HIV epidemic worse.
Like my point is not one point this person made was even valid, it's just a bunch of random drivel based on a picture of some other r-slurs that are wrong, a paper he's misquoting, Fauci endorsing an AIDS vaccine that never materialized, as if that's somehow his fault, and some cancer treatment.
This is what I mean, these people are just incredibly dumb and make misleading arguments.
To put into perspective how insane his lie about that paper was:
This was again, early on and nobody had any real idea, nothing he did here was bad. He said close contact transmission might be possible and more research is needed, which is a completely sane stance to take.
The point is these people are pathological liars. They aren't interested in being right, or even making real arguments - just distorting history.
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"Literally nothing" eh, hyperboleshill? I think its impressive that you understood my "incoherent" points well enough to try and refute them.
Because the original statement you were disputing was "I remember when the gays were accusing Fauci of killing them." While we can certainly debate the level of shared responsibility for actually killing them, the photograph is prima facie evidence he was most certainly accused of that.
AIDS was identified in 1981 and was quickly determined to be sexually transmitted. However, once an infant was found with AIDS (who was ultimately discovered to have gotten it from the mother), that is when Fauci and others started sounding alarm bells about other forms of transmission. Fauci never adopted the cautious "more study is needed" posture you attribute to him. He jumped feet first into the spotlight and got his first taste of media attention.
Further hyperbole aside, you fail to understand the difference between "fault" and "responsibility" in a leadership role. If a ship goes off course, it may be the fault of the deckhand who turned the rudder to the wrong position, but it is the responsibility of the captain if he doesn't notice the mistake or insists on continuing when presented with new information that they may be off course.
Why not put into perspective with the words of the Sainted Dr. Fauci himself?
Far from the being cautious, Fauci threw gas on the fire by highlighting that someone wouldn't know they contracted AIDS until perhaps a year later, therefore anyone who had contact was a suspected transmission vector.
If you have the time, the whole 14m video is very insightful and gives a much clearer and more detailed breakdown of Fauci's mismanagement and its relevance to Fauci's handling of SARS-CoV2. And before you whine or call it rightoid propaganda, here is Google's top two results for bias check ONE TWO ratings TheHill as firmly centrist.
No matter the crisis, Fauci's only answer is to push for vaccines because that is literally all he knows. Fauci is an idiotic bureaucratic hammer that treats every single issue as a nail. And, after forty years and blinding hammering away, Fauci finally got lucky and had an authoritarian government ready to jump into vaccines without caring if they worked or not or if there were alternatives that (as with AIDS) could reduce the deadly outcome even if they couldn't cure the actual disease.
Fauci is a piece of shit. I can agree to disagree on a lot of issues both right and left, but Fauci was past his prime a decade ago and history will judge him harshly once the demented cult of personality fades away and the long-term data starts coming in.
Good drama, but please at least have the courtesy to admit "random drivel" doesn't generate valid hyperlinks.
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Except I was calling the idea Fauci was killing them an objective lie. Intervention and co weren't simply stating a random fact about those protests, they were trying to spin said events on Fauci out of some twisted desire to compare it to covid.
intervention is an r con conspiratard, her entire worldview exists in the conspiracy ecosystem. I know exactly what she was doing, she knows what she was doing, you? I don't know, I find it hard to believe you don't but whatever.
Just because we identified it as sexually transmitted doesn't mean we knew all modes of transmission. Fauci quite literally DID adopt that stance.
Ok but Fauci has no responsibility, not only because he was a fairly young researcher at the time, but not even the guys organizing those protests thought he was responsible, the organizer:
When they did stage the protests those pictures are from, they even told him about it:
The idea Fauci was somehow to blame for any of this is absurd and not even something the organizers of the event believed.
The whole reason Fauci was critical of these protests was because they undermined his ability to get the activists involved in the research, something the people above Fauci blocked.
The problem here isn't your source, it's that you didn't watch your own video. Fauci literally talks about uncertainty during the entire fricking clip you just linked.
Fauci at no point made claims in that video, he says the jury is still out and researchers are concerned. How is that not talking about the need for more research?
A fricking HIV vaccine would be a medical miracle, why wouldn't he push vaccines. Your dumb argument amounts to "scientists supports our strongest tools for dealing with transmittable diseases."
Either way it's wrong because Fauci constantly tried to get HIV activists involved in clinical drug research, trying to find any drugs that could be used to treat HIV, something even the activists thanked him for.
What you said might not be random drivel - but it's still mistaken based on any reasonable reading of the facts.
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Except you are also trying to spin this crisis onto Reagan and/or Republicans, which right there is already dividing culpability and admitting that fault is not a binary value.
Some would say that the difference between a conspiracy and the truth is approximately six months. I likewise have a hard time believing you don't see how rampant authoritarianism is now following the exact playbook that was mocked as hysterical overreaching at the beginning of this year.
Dr Anthony "The Science is Settled" Fauci adopted (and continues to adopt) multiple stances, bending like a reed whichever way the wind is currently blowing. As to the news interview I linked, Fauci could have waited until the cause of the infant transmission had been determined (which came in fairly short order) before recklessly speculating as to potential transmission vectors. He did not do that, and panic ensued. Fauci himself later recanted and admitted he jumped the gun. If Fauci admits his own culpability and irresponsibility then you must as well.
By 1980 Fauci was Chief of Immunoregulation which is just 2 steps down on the org chart from NIAID Director. That's not some dewey-eyed intern without a lick of responsibility. And you seem to have completely forgotten that the protest we are discussing happened in 1988. Of course Fauci was accepting the protestors because by then the winds had shifted and it was okay.
You're crediting Fauci with 1988 hindsight that he did not have when he studied the disease (as part of the Department of Intramural Research) from 1981 to 1983 and as as head of the NIAID from 1984 onward. Fauci was part of the Reagan administration and in his role as advisor he held that AIDS had far larger social factors than a respiratory epidemic like Swine Flu. Social factors being the polite way to say "stop being a degenerate" which was an acceptable attitude in 1980s America but is of course blasphemy today.
Untrue. The President makes the requisition request for a department budget, Congress grants it, but it is the head of the department that directs the spending. It's interesting that you quote from Peter Stanley because that is perhaps the most clear case of someone not wanting to bite the hand that feeds them. In the same speech where Peter apologizes to Fauci, he rails against the failures of AZT which Fauci specifically had pushed. Stanley also lauds Fauci for opening the doors to clinical trials of other drugs... in 1992 after AZT was already a proven failure and Fauci was already looking for better alternatives. Total whitewashing and clear revisionist history.
As I mentioned earlier, it was the timing that is at fault. Playing Chicken Little is not being cautious or prudent. Anyone with an ounce of sense would have waited for results before speculating openly, particularly on something that had such a high level of fear and paranoia attached to it. But Fauci was more interested in covering his butt by giving qualified disclaimers instead of hard data. Again, Fauci himself admits he was wrong both in publishing his paper and advocating for caution that caused demonization of people with AIDS.
Researching vaccines is different than myopically focusing on them to the exclusion of everything else. It would be like trying to solve the energy crisis by focusing the entire production capacity of the United States into building solar panels and continuing to build panels even when evidence is presented about their downsides and limitations.
As the video pointed out, all avenues should be explored but it is particularly important for government (and academia) to focus more attention on things that have zero profit incentive. Private industry has produced the only successful vaccines to make it through clinical trials in the past 30 years because you can always generate massive profits from a successful vaccine. You can't profit from an off-patent generics.
Again, retcon whitewashing. AZT didn't get through the FDA in record without the backing of Fauci (and others). It was close to ten years before anything else was put in the approval pipeline, during which time everyone was forced to turn to the underground for unapproved solutions that were shown to work.
Ultimately we can go back and forth arguing minutia but the bottom line when it comes to responsibility is this:
Expert opinion is the only exception to the chain of command. A judge is the God of his courtroom and his word is law... except for expert testimony. The average judge wouldn't know an IP address from the hole in his butt, so that is why so often judges botch technical issues because because nobody explained the key issues accurately.
Fauci is the expert opinion, Reagan is the judge. Or Obama, or Trump, or whoever is in the White House. None of these Presidents have the foggiest clue about the intricacies of infectious disease. That's what Fauci is supposed to provide. Fauci has a 38-year record of failure after failure. I challenge you to find one thing that he did as the head of NIAID that actually solved or prevented a health crisis.
I also close by saying that I agree that the comparison between AIDS and SARS-CoV2 is not accurate. There is a much more direct comparison between SARS-CoV2 and H1N1 and you actually examine Fauci's handling of H1N1 and then compare it to SARS-CoV2 it is absolutely clear that Dr. Fauci is either dangerously incompetent or nakedly partisan, and either way unfit for his position.
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Because it was them, by literally any coherent reading of the available facts.
Some would say that, those people are also literal r-slurs.
He wasn't speculating, he was talking about possible scenarios. Either way, you lied and very seriously misconstrued that video, because it outright refutes your claim.
Except this was fauci the whole time, not just in 1988. Also, that's just an objectively correct statement - HIV does have a much larger social element than something like the swine flu. You just keep trying to spin basic facts as some mistep.
It's interesting that I quote one of the fricking people that organized the event you tried to use to attack Fauci? Really bud?
I also don't know why you keep bring up AZT, what exactly do you find questionable about AZT? How exactly was AZT a failure outside of the virus seemingly evolving to resist it.
All of the available research I can find from the time period say it was an effective treatment.
If anything was the FDA was pressured to rapidly approve a drug to treat HIV, I don't know why you think this was primarily Fauci as opposed to the government scrambling for literally any response, but whatever.
According to this, they were on one hand attacking the FDA for rapidly approving a drug, and then also attacking the FDA for not approving more drugs even faster:
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Based on literally what? This entire think just reeks as you being a conspiratard desperate to attack Fauci over anything you can possibly find while applying the absolute least generous reading of events possible.
If you think Fauci saying other modes of transmission might be possible and we need more research is somehow "demonizing aids" then that's your choice, I'll stay here in the real world.
Except we didn't stick to only vaccines, this is something you quite literally fabricated out of thin air.
Read the times article lmao. The idea AZT was somehow a Fauci thing is wildly ridiculous. If anything it was the FDA rapidly approving a treatment with research supporting it. Fauci isn't why a bunch of other drugs weren't on the pipeline quicker, you made that up.
Nobody mentally stable think Fauci has 38 years of failure. This is something poorly educated conspirtards think because they got bamboozled by facebook and twitter memes. Reagan and the GOP is to blame for the HIV failure, nobody else.
They gutted funding, they decided to hamstring the CDC, they decided to block congress from funding responses to the epidemic. Anything else is historical revisionism revived by covid truther conspiratards looking to attack people that told them they're wrong.
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Bullshit on coherent reading of the facts, you are straight up cherry-picking them. "Fauci bravely embraced the activists in 1988 and invited them warmly into his office and his heart! Good thing that mean old Reagan was gone so they could finally make progress against the disease under... Republican Bush?" Or wait, maybe we won't call our AIDS work successful until Democratic Clinton... with a Republican Congress? Your determination to blame the Republicans for anything/everything is as blatently idiotic as anything that comes from rightoids. The only constant throughout the entirety of the AIDS crisis (from inception to its eventual relegation to chronic nuisance) is one man: Dr. Fauci, so either all credit AND blame lies at his feet or none of it.
Again, bullshit. Calling it a social issue was how Fauci dodged the issue. When gays and drug users were disgusting and public opinion was against them, Fauci kept his distance and pushed responsibility back to states to control their degenerates. After Princess Di and Hollywood turned AIDS victims into pitiable cases and public opinion started shifting toward them, then suddenly Fauci was ready to be taking pictures at ACT UP conferences. Fauci is as obvious and shallow as you are delusional and obtuse.
Because it was basically as destructive on the body as chemotherapy. It was treatment by killing a disease slightly faster than you're killing the patient. And that might have been acceptable for people with terminal end-stage AIDS but Fauci was pushing this on everyone, hospital workers, pregnant women, children, etc even people who were asymptomatic.
Look up the 2004 BBC documentary "Guinea Pig Kids" that details how Fauci authorized AZT testing on underprivaledge kids with AIDS/HIV in New York city orphanages. As many as 80 kids died from the side effects of the treatment, many of whom had never even manifested symptoms and might have lived had they been treated with off-patent alternatives. There's a memorial in a NY graveyard over the mass grave (pauper's grave) where they were all buried.
Okay, great, please identify one therapeutic or pharmaceutical to come out of NIH/NIAID during Fauci's tenure in response to a pandemic or health crisis. Just one time that Fauci didn't recommend a vaccine in answer to a public health threat. Or just one time Fauci admitted it might be more prudent to manage symptoms than cure a disease.
Fauci is the head of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases. I freely admit I have no awareness or knowledge of our countries performance against hay fever, for all I know Fauci is brilliant in fighting asthma. But when it comes to infectious disease, how could you possibly hold that he has done anything right? The last two years prove exactly how ineffective he is. You can't have it both ways: either everything that has happened because of SARS-CoV2 is a massive overreaction or everything Fauci didn't do for the decades prior was ineffective.
Nothing about SARS-CoV2 was unforeseen or unexpected. The country had at least a dozen viral pandemics in the preceding decades. It's like a real world version of the Squidward/Shaq "I sleep" meme where 60-80K dying yearly from influenza at its peak while Fauci says nothing about the virtues of distancing, masking, mandatory vaccination, etc but suddenly with SARS-CoV2 it's "real shit".
As I said, either incompetent or nakedly partisan, take your pick.
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I'll be responding to this comment tomorrow, spoiler alert: more fallacious arguments and incorrect claims.
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Then I eagerly await your fallacious arguments and your incorrect claims.
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Next time you try to lie about what an argument is even over make sure you check the context. As soon as the award is gone I'm dunking you.
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If you are referring to the first line in my original post, you clearly indicated it is not a direct quote (which would require context) but instead your characterization of Intervention's premise. However, in the interest of fair play I will wait for you to post your full response before I elaborate further.
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It is not possible to think she said that just as a random fact, she was absolutely trying to claim was part of the failure.
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Take the L man. Take the L.
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By L, do you mean me blatantly provening the guy lied about the paper, correctly pointing out that other r-slurs also being wrong doesn't make rightoids right, and someone endorsing a vaccine doesn't somehow mean they're to blame for HIV?
Are you by chance illiterate?
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Eat my pizza, shill.
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How about you respond, r-slur, how is me proving he lied about a paper, that other r-slurs also being wrong doesn't make rightoids correct, and Fauci endorsing a vaccine that never materialized doesn't mean he's somehow to blame for HIV = me "losing."
It's an objective historical fact that the Reagan admin failed to respond to HIV, numerous times he blocked congressional funding, prevented the CDC from responding, and suppressed research.
Stop being historically illiterate, or at the very least crawl back on over to R con with the other ethno nationalist rejects.
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Look, you dumb motherlover... you can't gaslight an ancient dinosaur like me about what I lived through.
Stop simping Anthony the monkey Fauci. He's always been a loser. I don't post on reddit anymore you dumb fricker.
I don't want to because it's crawling with mongoloids like you.
https://city-journal.org/html/ronald-reagans-quiet-war-aids-14783.html
Now, frick off you tard.
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That's a bit of a stretch and you know it.
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No, it really isn't.
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There are the default subs, the Bernie subs and the lgbt (groomer) subs. Arrr con tends to be slightly self aware. One of their jannies actually helped me set up a bait sub once that I never ended up executing.
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R conservative is many times worse than all of those subs.
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How do you figure? Arr con is the other end of the reddit Horseshoe but they're not allowed to be too extreme or else the chadmins ban them while the leftoid subs get to run wild. Last I checked they avoided all the Q and antivax stuff and were mostly normal people that didn't like trains.
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Why are you even engaging with this r-slur?
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I honestly like pizza.
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Let me show you how I figure, this is the kind of shit you find r con before the jannies mass delete everything to cover up what the sub actually is:
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Honestly the fact the jslurs delete it speaks to how the subreddit is better. Equivalent stuff on leftoid and default subs that would word for word change "blacks" to "Christians" just gets left up.
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They fully endorse all of this, they just don't want reddit banning the sub. I've gotten in arguments with r con mods off site and they're even worse than what I linked.
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Why do you get into arguments with Reddit mods on other sites...? Just why??
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This is really the opposite of the experience I've had. We spoke to different mods I guess.
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You couldn't be more full of shit. It's coming out your ears.
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You're a 🐸?
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Still better than srd
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Did you forget about arr atheism?
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38K deaths a year in the U.S. due to traffic accidents and you pull two that don't even prove your point lmfaoooo
So there's no ambiguity whatsoever, let's quote what you originally said:
Except the people in your examples don't hurt other people... lol.
How mad do you have to be to spend that much effort only to prove you're an idiot.
PS: Disagreeing with you doesn't make someone a rightoid, idiot.
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You can absolutely cause traffic accidents you 70 IQ community college drop-out.
You are a mongoloid.
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So find an actual example of it then lol
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No, because I don't feel like sorting through 500 law pages. Basic common sense should tell you being thrown into oncoming traffic can cause more accidents.
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Then cite one lmao. You are so unbelievably stupid.
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I'm not going to dig through 500 law blogs to prove to a mongoloid that basic common sense exists.
Now stop responding to me and go be a 70 IQ mongoloid somewhere else.
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Thats because you cant find one, but you sure did try. Nice try moron.
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No I didn't even try, I just know there's going to be 500 law blogs talking about it.
Either way, common sense exists no matter what. You are low IQ.
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Lol "common sense" is the saddest retreat I've seen from you. I suggest if you realize you're wrong you could pivot to some obscure Wikipedia article or giant tome no one will read.
I know you would never concede a point, but usually you do better than this.
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I'm not going to prove to some r-slurred soy that the sky is blue.
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nobody thinks your funny either this is just cringe recycled humor
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How big is your peen?
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6"
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Impressive for a midget. Post timestamped picture to proof it
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I am a kraut, how do I know how to spell shit. But don't digress. post peen with timestamp
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oh a kraut eh. kind of what i would expect from a russian r*pe baby
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At least their peepees are real. You're just a midget across the pond who won't PrOof it
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at least use proper english if youre gona ask for shit like that
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If Germans aren’t pure enough who is to an ubermensch like you?
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expects me to know what a german word means. cringe german narcissism
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Post peepee
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only pic i have of it is of it balls deep in your mom, would that one work?
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It's kinda fricked up you're judging us for bussy love when you're bragging about peepeeing down obese elderly people.
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i guess that's a no then?
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No, post it, but if it's not actually my mom, you owe us spread bussy.
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i wuld but im the only person here with enough morals that i wouldnt do that
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You're*
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man im defeated
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