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Delusional tik toker claims ancient Rome wasn't real

https://www.insider.com/history-anthropology-tiktoker-ancient-rome-not-real-backlash-viral-2021-12

I will admit, I'm a bit too lazy to find the reddit threads on this. But darn, they probably exist

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It's not the first time @momllennial_ has made provocative history-themed videos. In one video posted in late October, she appeared to suggest that the name "Jesus Christ" could be translated to "clitoris healer." In June, she posted a TikTok where she appeared to speculate that Alexander the Great was actually a woman.

Dramanaut confirmed, mod her!

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If Rome didn't exist then who invented the Caesar salad?

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Little Caesars

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Hot and Schweaty

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The guy from gladiator, walking fenix.

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In the clip, she said her claim that Rome wasn't real was a metaphor

Progressives and coining provocative phrases that don't mean what they literally mean:

:#hug:

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Her bio states that she has a bachelor's degree in anthropology and history

Well that sums up why I think non stem degrees are useless. Can someone explain her argument, I stopped reading after that point because I went to Rome this past August and those buildings are definitely real.


This morning, Cum went to the park. I went with Coom. And Cum brought Coomer frisbee. At least I think it was Coomers. By the end of the day, Cum started throwing the frisbee to Cumself.

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No they are not

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Then how to explain the gypsy women standing in the plazas acting disabled if the plazas aren’t real?


This morning, Cum went to the park. I went with Coom. And Cum brought Coomer frisbee. At least I think it was Coomers. By the end of the day, Cum started throwing the frisbee to Cumself.

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Holographic simulator.

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Drugs and suggestive wording by travel guide.


:#marseytwerking:

:marseycoin::marseycoin::marseycoin:
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Rome was built by Mussolini in 1939 to justify fascism

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She's repackaging milquetoast historical takes in the most dramatic language possible. Ancient Rome (ancient, several centuries BC, not Roman Empire yet) has gaps in the archeological record, may not have been as massive as commonly thought, basic, mundane stuff like that, repackaged for the 3-second-attention-span generation becomes "ANCIENT ROME DIDN'T REAL".

It's basically clickbait trolling. Mod her immediately.

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:marseyglow: emoji

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No this is totally different from (((actual historians))) who absolutely never make shit up for attention or dramacoin

:#soymad:

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The only rich historians know they have to stoke controversy to get anyone to read their books. The ideologues make shit up to push their ideology.

  

I saw someone make this point once, that what mainstream historians think caused Rome's collapse is more indicative of the mood in their times than whatever actually caused its collapse. Back during Gibbon, there was the general disdain for Catholicism among Europeans like him and so you have his book. Then later you have the idea of German immigrants moving in being the primary cause. Around mid 20th century. Coinciding of course with first waves of substantial non European immigration into Europe. Then finally you have climate change, being shilled more recently.

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To assert that Gibbon concluded that the catholic church was responsible for the collapse of Rome is flat out wrong. Both catholicism as rising party in the church, and gothic migration had significant roles in the collapse of Rome, although there are additional factors. You are being r/slurred if you think that discussing the negative effects of these events is some sort of propaganda. Christianity is the higher moral, and Gibbon might be a little too biased against christianity, however that doesn't mean that you cannot disentangle his disdain for christianity, his analysis of cause and effect, from the actual facts that took place and make your own conclusions from them.

Additionally, you cannot understand late Roman history without understanding the role of the church, its schisms, etc. That's like studying the XX, XXI centuries history, and refusing to look on the role of radical political ideologies of our time that have changed our culture profoundly.

:zoomer: Zoomers and their constant need to be told what to think, rather than how to think.

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Oh to be sure I'm not saying any of them are wrong. I'm just saying that in history, you know, you choose your focus and work there. Someone who works in subaltern history will see peasant rebellions in every little football riot. Things like that.

 

Later on you have Spengler talking about basically all the things Gibbons attributed to Christianity(nihilism etc) as a function of time alone, independent of Christianity or Communism or w/e the sentiment is called.

IMO Pirenne and the way he pivoted from gothic migration to Arabs cutting off Med trade as the cause for early medieval decline is the ultimate thesis of neo liberalism. The answer of contemporary historians to the immigration fears stoked by others. Supporting Pirenne for most was a political decision far more than a professional one.

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Yeah it was totally the 16,000 Goths that tore down Rome and not absolutely insurmountable corruption and political disfunction. Towards the end if an emperor raised an army it was more likely to attempt to overthrow him than defeat his enemies. The Goths if anything stabilized the empire, since they could actually be counted on to work together. Rome's real problem is that it was full of backstabbing wops.

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have u considered large empires may be brought down by more than one factor? Maybe even ... three? Four? Nah that’s too many.

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Sorry I won't engage you. You don't sound like well-adjusted person.

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:ragemask: :ragemask: :ragemask:

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Tbh mainly rightoids make shit up about Rome these days, and always to declare X thing they don't like will destroy civilization.

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Then finally you have climate change, being shilled more recently

Uh what?

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because of ancient farming, temperature or rainfall -> crops -> die

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β€œClimate changing” historically easily brought down empires because agrarian and food and changes in rainfall and temperature can just slaughter crops. Many things historically collapsed due to that

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Your favorite kings? All gay. Every single one of them.

Want proof? Here is a list of papers I wrote. And a couple my friends from the faculty wrote, for good measure.

I win bye bye.

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This has crossed the line, or if will, the rubicon. It is time for a proper "proscription" of TikTok brain.

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This calls for a decimation

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Wow, a 'decimation' like, totally means to blow everyone up right, like BOOM, POWWW! :soyjackwow:

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WE WUZ PRINCEPS N SHEEEYIT


:#marseyklennycross:

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Virgin Tiktok "Rome didn't exist" vs the Chad Philip K. Peepee Rome is America and the President is Caesar

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Based and exegesis-of-philip-k-peepee-pilled

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you guys making fun of her but have you ever seen ancient rome...

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Actually nice bait

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It wasn’t. Rome is just a conspiracy to get fashy teens to focus less on Hitler and relevant politics.

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:#kazakhstan:

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based

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I'd have an intimate relationship with her

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i wanna smell that hair

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mayofoid enjoyer... OUT, OUT

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Wait, is that a news article...about a tiktok?

And they say it's bad I've completely checked out of society.

:#!marseyno:

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history tiktoker

Say, does anyone happen to have a mailing adress of hers, per chance?

:#marseyunabomber:

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Weeb? Skyrim and elder scrolls are American made video games based on European lore and history. I had too google the weeb word. I actually don’t like anime I just happened to like medieval fantasy genres which is pretty different than what you are suggesting and it was developed in the USA by a USA based studio. Learn what words mean and what about the subjects before you start talking shit you look like a 12 year old little boy btw get the frick out of here you little c*nt

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Akaviri are weebs

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