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I've read half of the books but I can't keep up with why they're so mad.
I'm mad because:
- They BLACKED.COM every second character.
- There's a country called "Shienar" which is based on Japan and the main "Shienarans" are Asian actors speaking with Rice accents. But then they DIVERSIFY Shienar by making half their citizens Wh*te or Indian. Do they speak with an Asian accent? No. Why? Shut up, that's why.
Why the autists are mad:
- Magic is either "Saidar" or "Saidin". The DRAGON REBORN uses Saidin. What's the difference? Saidar is Foid magic. Saidin is man juice. Therefore the DRAGON REBORN must be a man. But in the show they're like "whoooa it might be those brave brown women who could be the DRAGON REBORN"
- LAN "GigaChad" Mangradogradagonon went from an Ice Cold killer to a cute asian Twink BF who doesn't do much.
- Lord Agelmar went from some hero who held back the Trolls for years to saying 'dear sister you were right about everything I'm a dumb man lol'
- Perrin is just so fricking useless and annoying
- Matt is like 'bye, lol, lmao'
Why I liked it
- Rosamund Pike
- The bad guy has a hooked nose, lol
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My take?
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GOOD point
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Why do people of book torment themselves with «««adaptations»»»? I never felt the need to watch some low rent series because they are made out of book I've read. First time I heard they are doing "Foundation" I laughed because it's such an unfilmable, neurodivergent story, then I heard people seethe about it because it turned out to be a nonsense. Same with live action of animu. Stop watching it, you have nothing to lose but your chains and your weight.
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Because a man named Peter Jackson did it.
And it was glorious.
And it will never happen again.
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Queen of rdrama J.K. Rowling and her minions also did a pretty good job
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Much easier to adapt
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dune was good
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Early Game of Thrones was great, too, before running too far ahead of the books and going to shit. Adaptations don't have to automatically suck...
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Even the original wasn’t good. I hate luddites, I hate
muslimsorange Catholics, I hate drug addicts, and I hate aristocrats.Jump in the discussion.
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Plough the earth you're renting from me or get back in your hovel peasant, and don't forget to tithe
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Viva la revolution!
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O wretched rente hogges, gett ye gone and thy tippe left behynde as compense for a stye made filthie
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The hype to disappointment cycle will never cease. Whether it's an adaption or a sequel or a reboot or etc
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Maybe this is just an echo of boom/bust cycle. A Samsara for nerds.
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It ceased in 2017 with Twin Peaks The Return which was amazing but then David Lynch went back to his meditation cult and will probably never do anything again.
Then in 2019 Dark Crystal Age of Resistance came out which was better than the original movie somehow but Netflix abandoned it for Cuties and anime adaptations. We're not allowed to have good things.
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People don't seem to be educated enough to understand that you can't tell the same exact story with every exact detail in every single medium.
Different mediums are better at telling a story in different ways, but r-slurs will never get that.
So we'll always have fresh
drama
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That’s why it’s important to understand the core of a work you're adapting, or to just stuff a bunch of BIPOCs everywhere so nobody asks questions.
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Yes. Diversity in popular media is extremely important. Mayos have had enough time in the spotlight
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No it is the coke feuled CEOs who greenlight this shit whomsg are r-slurs
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I’m just glad they made a show out of it so I can bully anyone who mentions it to me
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That's a motivation I can stand behind.
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Very accurate comment. I knew Foundation and Altered Carbon would be absolute shite.
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Some works are better suited than others, and if you lack the talent to do that just cast loads of minorities everywhere to make yourself immune to criticism for you weak literary skills.
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I still haven't watched the Godfather for this reason. I read the book when I was younger, loved it, and don't want it ruined.
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The huge vagina subplot so much better in the movie.
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I'm genuinely surprised that wasn't cut or changed. It was such a weird thing to read when I was 11, I didn't really understand at the time.
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Is there even such a surgery that can reduce a kitty's size?
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Its only a hole, just DIY and use a stapler
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The one adaptation I’m looking forward to is Sandman. Yes, I’m an r-slur but the art wasn’t very good throughout the original series so I’m hoping the visuals will make up for that.
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The art was great and you're an idiot for thinking otherwise
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Are we talking about the same Sandman? SOME of the art was good, a few artists were great but overall I wasn’t a fan of the art.
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Well they're not all bad. I actually like the new His Dark Materials series.
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That's a comfy bong show with mediocre CGI but great actors. Even the race swapping there isn't an obstruction
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Just take encouragement from the fact everytime they "reinterpret" these stories, basically diversifying them and rewriting key plot points to fit the restructuring, it almost always fails. They're three for three in the last few months, Cowboy Bebop, The Witcher and now this, pretty sure there's a lesson to be learned about fricking with the integral parts of a story to serve a completely unrelated agenda.
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Egwene was always potentially pretty if not for the world's biggest fricking round nose and the book lore canon supports me on this, bigot.
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Imagining her as a butterface makes her entire story boring
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all popular Disney franchises were already diversified and are the most popular stories ever. Adaptations crash and burn regularly, shaniqua as strong black lead or not
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Disney is too big to fail though, they could put Spiderman in a wheelchair and have him swing across New York and the r-slurs who religiously watch that shit would clap. These smaller adaptations outside of Disney's influence are a better reflection of audience reception.
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Monogatari could be all black (or half Asian half animal) and id still love it for the actual ... show, the characters and dialogue and art and points. These things flop because of the sjaydoubleu and conservassal writers just suck because lol American slash western writing and movies are soulless and have been since like 1900 at least
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I agree with you, if the story is well written then people won't care. Like on rdrama, agenda ruins everything; it's even more of an insult when some hack writer with political beliefs necros a great story they read once and then tries to readapt it with their own agenda instilled into it. Both sides and all that.
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All Monogastric fans are pedos die
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What really pisses me off about this is it doesn't have to be bad. The makeups good, the actings good, the actions good. It's just the fricking dog shit writing
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Many such cases!
Legit, good writing is the most important part of any show imo. The visual effects can be hot buttered dog shit and you can even get by with mediocre acting but if the writing is garbage there's nothing to be done.
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Who said Witcher failed. Witcher was pretty good for an averagely translated series in English.
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Have you seen season 2 yet? I enjoyed it a lot less than the first season. Way too many needless scenes of Yennefer being a whiny c*nt, not nearly enough of Geralt and Ciri fighting monsters and shit.
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I liked it, I didnt think Yennefer was that whiny for a person who went from the most powerful witch to a normie. However, I feel season 2 has set us up for a bombastic season 3.
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It's funny watching everyone on reddit come around. Episode one if you said anything about negative you basically just got banned from r/fantasy and r/WoT. The writing was all over the wall.
I don't understand why companies do this. Why throw $70 million at a project and then hire some Twitter sperg writer who ruins the story? It's not hard to make an adaptation, you just need to trim some fat and follow the plot. You're making a movie out of it because the story is good. That's all they did in game of thrones until they ran out of books and it worked great.
But really, ruining it for some girlpower shit? Blacking characters? Why? It clearly isn't for money. Honestly makes you wonder if ((((something)))) is going on.
Also r/WoT is already suggesting the negative reviews are from brigaders lol
https://old.reddit.com/r/WoT/comments/rnebmd/episode_8season_1_vent_thread/?sort=controversial
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GoT season 1 was the perfect example of this. I watched the show first, THEN I read the book. While reading I was thinking "holy shit, this is like reading the script for the show"
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It's maddening because it worked so well, but yet for some reason other adaptations still insist on changing the plot. The simple truth is that directors are just bad authors. Writers who suck but have good connections end up working for Hollywood. This whole mess is so r-slurred, it just doesn't make sense. Why would you allow something like this to happen to an insanely expensive product? Why would you sabotage yourselves? Is there no oversight? Are these people just completely out of touch with reality? All they needed to do was follow the darn story!
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I don’t think that is necessarily true, for example George R Martin wrote for Hollywood before writing got.
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It is for money just not the audience's money. Diversity officers is a racket/business now, investors, out of touch 60 year olds (seriously read the old Sony leaks), deflecting attention from the child slaves in your basement...
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Because they;re so out of touch they think twitter tards are the common man
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Those books were unironically bad. I read the whole fricking series because i have a need to finish things and they were just trash. I'm glad they're getting a terrible adaptation they frankly deserve it.
Spoiler: the main character finally goes super Saiyan and not crazy by realizing how much he values protecting women. That's his trait that ties him together through millennia of reincarnations. So gay
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I remember hitting book 7 or something and there's this plot where Nynanenaenavne and Elayne go on a little travel and just be complete bitches to each other and every man who helps them and it's just unbearable.
God I wish they fricked.
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For real, the author inserted so many of his weird dumb fetishes into that book and didn't give us any hot witch on witch action. "Oh no you tied me up and permanently destroyed my power leaving me a shell of a man" we all know what he meant and it's gross.
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I wonder if that’s the ending the dead fat guy had in mind. I kept reading for the same reason but only made it up to the one where it was really cold
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what the frick? It’s like reading technical jargon in quantum rocket microscopy except instead of powering photonic satellite robots it’s nerd nonsense.
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This mess is hard enough to keep track of for people who've actually read all the books. I don't know how people who've never read them can sit down and watch this shit without being constantly confused. I hope whoever at Amazon that approved this for a 2nd and 3rd season is forced to watch the show on loop all day a clockwork orange style.
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Yeah I understand all of Kingdom Hearts and use it to smugly bully nerds but I'm too r-slurred to even try to parse this shit
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is that like bejeweled?
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Yes exactly like bejeweled
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bj my wee, lad
man go memorize ecology or Buddhism or something instead lol way more fun
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I cant bully weebs with that
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you can bully them irl by having some semblance of humanity left
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Frick trees and Buddhists you goddarn hippy
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I need a full carp review asap
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I’ve got some more accounts to get banned by posting his upcoming review to the Reddit subs.
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I will become a paypig if I can read carp sperg about more shit tv
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I wouldn't recommend the Wheel of Time books, but despite that I did read them all which entitles me to be annoyed at this clusterfrick.
Also just noticed that's a split-off sub made because the main one was a show hugbox, which makes sense.
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Based! We need more BIPOC representation in fantasy shows to out the racist bigots.
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Its such mask off right wing brigader mob. It's not a coincidence that the hate sub is r/whitecloaks. Also if Robert Jordan didn't want things changed about his books maybe he shouldn't have been sexist and racist.
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If robert jordan wanted a white cast maybe he should’ve not died and made his own show!
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I’d prefer some cross universe representation. Women write 80% of gay slash fiction, yet no popular male actors frick publicly, curious. And where are all the insectoid protagonists? Not very inclusive. I suggest an acausal utilitarian trade with the Al’Qtei insectouniverse empire in multiverse 8 to rectify it.
try a bit harder with ur jokes man “haha more blacks” is still very funny 8 years in but we might run out eventually
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Can't wait for Carp to words words words post here when he wakes up
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That would be pretty funny. Would it be possible to frame it somehow so it's problematic if there's not whitey doing some Asian or non-European accent? Maybe something like about how only PoCs are shown to have this certain accent implying that whites speak better which is uninclusive.
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bong + foid + white
dramatards have no standards
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I just saw a pic. She's at best an average white womben. I bet some of the wand whales here even look better.
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At least we’re spared the pain of hoping the LOTR adaption is any good.
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many such cases
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Oh this is nothing, they are doing the Silmarillion too and it has already been rated for s*x scenes plus a bunch of other shit that LotR nerds will go apeshit over.
No chance that it is not run into the ground by some hack that has to put brown people everywhere to deflect their lack of talent, prepare to see a lot of butthurt.
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I can't stand Matt. He's tries to be a twunk but is just gross and annoying.
Perrin is fricking useless and annoying but darn if that thicc dark meat doesn't make me
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Those two points are accurate to the books, at least
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Space down for the marseys to work lol
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Mat's done real dirty in the show.
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I keep getting ads spammed to me about this show and it looks like the most generic shit ever with a crying60 year old woman and random shots of boring black, asian and white people
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Wait so they actually BLEACHED.COM the Asians?
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When they enter the town he's greeted by 2 CURRIES AND 3 MAYOS HAHAHAHAHA
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I dropped this shit so hard after episode 1 lol. Never read the books but I could tell something was very off.
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Reminder that there are loads of good TV shows out there you haven't seen. None of them feature goblins and dragons.
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Peaky Blinders is a fricking goofy cartoon show bro
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Honestly I've only ever seen 1 episode but I'm sure it's better than wandshit.
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It's still a good watch, especially the early seasons, but it becomes a parody of itself. Also the only gypsy representation they're gonna get
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The Americans is comically bad with the least believable characters
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This is the wrong answer.
Although it did go off the rails in its last 2 seasons. But then, so do almost all TV shows that last as long.
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Yea my mum loves it and it sounds over the top. Is it a good time over the top?
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What about the way they wrote king gabagool and the edithputhie and also lady hdfjickdkebrvdycgbr?
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I’m riddled with shame. White shame. This isn’t helpful to me or to anyone, especially people of color. I feel like there is no “me” outside of my white/upper middle class/cisgender identity. I feel like my literal existence hurts people, like I’m always taking up space that should belong to someone else.
Snapshots:
BLACKED.COM:
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Rosamund Pike.
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Same dude
Lambert might have potential but so far he’s just an butthole instead of a cynical butthole
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