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Why antiwork doesn't work

Every social movement is comprised of two elements: the aspiration (what you want from the world) and the construction (how society must be structured in order for everyone to have the capability to have the aspiration). For instance, in the American revolution, the aspiration was freedom, and the construction was the Constitution.

r/antiwork was originally a subreddit of people that just had the aspiration of not working. As it got larger, and zoomers joined, there was pressure to make it into a social movement. The problem is that no one could create a construction that would attain the goal of "nobody works", so Marxism took over. The problem is that Marxism is a very pro-work ideology.

The problem is that to be alive requires effort. Even when not moving, your body is metabolizing, your heart is pumping, your lungs are breathing. All of this requires energy. The only human that does not constantly expend energy is a dead one. Therefore, if one person is lazy, they must exist as parasites on the non-lazy. (This is the antiwork aspiration). But if everyone is lazy, where does the food come from?

r/antiwork would be better off if it stopped trying to be a social movement and simply adgknowledged what we all already know: work sucks.

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This is too many wordswordswords. The real answer is that labor/production is inherently social (people don't grow food just for the sake of it, they grow it because there's a need for it) and so anyone railing against work in general is going to look like a narcissistic leech.

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They're just far too disconnected from those jobs that are essential to society, and also have lived in a post-scarcity bubble their whole life. Urban/suburban middle-upper middle class losers that have never faced any sort of real adversity in their life, so they think a 40 hr work week is slavery and that being misgendered is violence. They've never had to go hungry, or go without bussy for extended periods, the big softies.

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Antiwork can't even agree on what they are. There is always infighting about improving working conditions, abolishing work entirely, and sometimes communism.

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work sucks

I know

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She left me roses by the stairs, Surprises let me know she cares.

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The Idealised goal of Marxism is about restructuring work so that everyone works an equal amount for an equal amount of the benefit. Most people will gain net time off through more efficient distribution of labor but they'll still have to do their shift.

What these guys want is a UBI system where work is optional if you want more than basic subsistence or some sort of automated Wall-e post work robo terrarium.

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We're already in a post-work UBI paradise -- by 19th Century standards of living, when most Americans didn't have running water or electricity. The problem is that "basic subsistence" is inflationary.

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I would gladly give up the internet to go live by myself in a cabin in Montana. Live life as God intended. Maybe write some books or papers.

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We've always lived in the tyranny of the masses and robotization is our only hope of throwing off that yoke.

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Robotization will not end work any more than the power loom, steam engine, or personal computer. When goods get cheaper, people don't work less but buy more.

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Advanced robotization hopefully reduces the need for human oversight to the robots' owner + their lieutenant so that humanity's productivity no longer lingers on wrangling billions of r-slurs.

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The bottleneck is not supply but demand. No matter how much we improve productivity, consumers consoom more to compensate

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Oh, I was talking social stuff, not economy.

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The problem is that millennials are the generation raised too be the ultimate consumers. Corporations realized that adults who had the maturity of kids would spend like stupid kids but with the income level of adults. So western millennials have been infantalized by society at large. They were told "It's okay too play with toys forever! Comic books and video games are art and art is an adult thing!" And now this generation of adult-children is also failing too hit important life markers like marriage, having kids, and buying a house. Many of them are even self-selecting out the the gene pool because the responsibility of raising kids scares them, and society at large has told them it's a good thing too not reproduce.

Now when this group of now middle-aged adults takes stock of their life, they look around and it's wholly unfulfilling because consumerism is unfulfilling. And when they think on when they were happiest, it was their pampered childhood. And they want too go back, but they also don't want their child boomer parents telling them too do things like maybe get a better job than retail and maybe get off the computer and meet people in real life. So as a surrogate for parents, they want the government too take care of them.

Anti-work is the logical endpoint of a generation that has been babied their whole lives. They want too stay children, but with porn and video games.

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This is one of the worst posts I have EVER seen. Delete it.

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Antiwork is for people to only complain about capitalism or whatever. To actually make a positive change in the world would simply be too much work for these folks.

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I actually enjoy working, but that's probably because I work in labor and just get to talk with my fellow coworkers while working

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I work in construction, mostly road maintenance. I've been working the same job for so long that it actually pays well.

It feels good to actually do something and have real world physical results while chatting with the boys.

I'm glad I was too dumb/poor to go to college. I would have ended up being a programmer, ordering uber eats daily and posting on anti-work.

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Yeah unironicly zoomers are so fricked as a generation, a good chunk of them can't function without airpods or checking their phone. They also have no idea how to talk to people with high authority and assume other people can just pick up their slack. The internet has had really bad consequences on the labor force

As someone who has to manage them and is responsible for the final product I just can't help but be frustrated all the time at them.

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I'm glad the only zoomers I have to deal with are temps that we get during the summer from school job lotteries. Most of the guys I work with are my age or older.

I used to be able to get my temps to do pretty much any work, but I can really only trust this recent batch of Zoomers to hold the signs to direct traffic and they still frick that up. Many of them leave after a few shifts complaining its too boring.

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Lol being bored is a common complaint I hear to, it's like these people were raised without ever have to do chores or something they didn't want to

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They're all so weak too. Some complain their arms are tired/sore while holding the stop signs. Many of them struggle to lift the shovels and pour fill into pot holes.

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We need to force zoomers to mow lawns and dig holes for money, that's how I made money when I was a kid

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Latinx do it cheaper, more skillfully and don't complain, so there's no reason to hire fat entitled mayos over them.

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An hour earlier than I though but I'm still happy regardless

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I actually understand. I am a grindmaxxer myself, but most people arent so I addressed them

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Antiwork is not Marxist. The mods are anarkiddies. r/genzedong was crying when they banned some ML's for being too authoritarian, lol.

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you say po-tay-to, i say po-tah-to. They adopt Marxist principals such as the labor theory of value

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It'd be funny if they started opposing unions because they work

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antiwork want the lifestype of rich people without having to, well work for it.

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