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Menslibbers lament their white privilege

https://old.reddit.com/r/MensLib/comments/sp0eq7/being_a_mediocre_man?sort=controversial

If you hang out in feminist circles, you’ll probably find the concept of the ‘mediocre white men’ - the incompetent man who finds himself getting promotions and rewards that others deserve simply due to the privilege of being born under a white supremacist patriarchy. He’s arrogant, self-righteous, and completely incapable of realizing his privilege. Some might this concept offensive, but I can’t find any offense with it; it describes me perfectly.

Forgive me if I get woman’s issues wrong here, I’m only describing my personal experiences: It seems to me that under patriarchy women are forced to become extremely competent people denied their appropriate status. All of the women in my life are super hardworking, juggling paid and unpaid, blue/white collar and emotional labor while still fulfilling their life goals to the best of their ability. If it weren’t for a patriarchal culture inhibiting them, they would go even farther then they are now.

I am the complete opposite. I was raised in a household where men were expected to do no work, since that was a “woman’s duty”. My and Dad were not to clean up after ourselves. My low B and C grades were “good enough”. I was pretty much coddled and spoiled like a child. Ironically as I have graduated college and am now failing to launch afterwards, the values that were supposed to reflect my elevated position in society have completely left me completely unprepared for an increasingly egalitarian society. I pretty much failed upwards the entirety of my academic career and will probably continue on the life of the failson. I believe I have always had adhd and depressive symptoms, but my socialization has made them grow to monstrous proportions. I can’t really take care of myself, my environment, I have no work ethic, too addicted to play to dedicate to work, etc. I’m also extremely timid, struggle to express myself, and have anger issues.

It’s only recently that I fully realized the extent that there was engrained sexism in my family. I’ve mostly spent this period paralyzed with guilt for the way I and my dad have treated my poor 60yo mom who pretty much do all the unpaid labor around the house without much past appreciation, who accepted it unconditionally as part of her traditionalist Christianity. Recently she got in an accident that left her with a broken leg and wrist, meaning that now we have to pick up the slack. My sister and aunt moved in to help as well.

There’s been a big difference in how we’ve coped with this, I suppose. My dad has refused to do anything and still depends on the women, while getting triggered whenever someone calls him out on it. It’s really made me lose my respect for him. For me it’s been… trying and failing to overcompensate, I guess. Trying to do housework I don’t really know how to do alone because I don’t want to burden them, resulting in me taking six hours to clean the bathroom at a B- grade. Even my sister who has similar mental struggles is able to be so much more competent than me, simply because of the expectations of her gender.

I wish I could be happy with what I’m doing now, but I feel like I will always be fighting a futile uphill battle against my socialization. I don’t know how to feel. Guilt is not a productive emotion. But I know that if I weren’t a white guy born in a rich family I would probably be completely screwed, and I struggle to process that. I feel years behind and tbh, destined for superfluity. Call it imposter syndrome but there’s definite systemic factors at play.

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All of the women in my life are super hardworking, juggling paid and unpaid, blue/white collar and emotional labor while still fulfilling their life goals to the best of their ability.

:#marseytrollolol:

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What absolutely zero kitty does to an MF.

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Zero kitty should count as a disability tbqh.

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Trying to do housework I don’t really know how to do alone because I don’t want to burden them, resulting in me taking six hours to clean the bathroom at a B- grade.

holy shit how pathetic can you be?

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If it takes more than 20 minutes to clean the bathroom then you should probably consider cleaning it more than once a year.

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being such a poorcel you dont have a maid

We need income verification to post here

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Verify your income by becoming a paypig then.

Unless? :marseysmug2:

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My mom works part time and bakes me tendies

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:marseystonetoss: Men's liberation?

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mens (ftm) liberation

:#marseyagree:

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Imagine sending some lost teenager here, they would either become a far rightoid or whatever these "people" are

:#marseytroublemaker:

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It seems to me that under patriarchy women are forced to become extremely competent people denied their appropriate status.

I’ve only known two competent female employees and both were subordinates I hired. Every single other woman ranged from just awful and should only have been paid to leave, to mediocre and unremarkable. This is the norm.

All of the women in my life are super hardworking, juggling paid and unpaid, blue/white collar and emotional labor while still fulfilling their life goals to the best of their ability. If it weren’t for a patriarchal culture inhibiting them, they would go even farther then they are now.

Every attribute described here is part of “working a job while having a social life.”


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It seems to me that under patriarchy women are forced to become extremely competent people denied their appropriate status.

If this is true then we should probably accept the contrapositive: the state of female workers is firm evidence against the existence of a patriarchy.

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I appreciate your take, you seem self-aware...

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Self awareness to these people just means being as sorry for existing as possible

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You should take a look at his post history. Dude is probably one of the most pathetic redditors I have seen this year.

Also lol https://old.reddit.com/r/asktransgender/comments/s91jbv/i_dont_like_being_a_man?sort=controversial

Going through his posts it's like an incel that is on the way to becoming a male feminist if he isn't grooming out before that. Just sad man

:#marseydepressed:

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Imagine not being grateful after your ancestors spilled buckets of blood to put you in a favorable position.

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does it count if they died for the confederacy or is that not privileged

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Losers should never be revered.

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This but unironically. Stalin-sama, Lincoln-sama I kneel.

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Every poster there needs to be on multiple alphabet agency watch lists as suspected male feminists.

:marseyfbi:

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Unironically I'd commit suicide by assault on a government building long before it'd ever get bad enough for me to be a MensLibber.

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How do you fail upwards academically? It's one of the few places in society where merit is measured fairly appropriately

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Eh, it can vary a lot. Ive seen some fricking r-slurs with PhD's, and there are a lot of scholarships that are not really based on merit.

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Why dont we make posts on there talking about how much of a burden we are on the planet? "Im bummed out that as a well off white man ill be obe of the leading causes of killing the planet". Make these things as depressed for existing as humanly possible

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I’m not denying it doesn’t happen, but to assume all people who wear mascot costumes, or are furries, smoke crack and frick all day in costume is a massive fallacy.

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