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Every study ever done on the topic has shown that spanking is detrimental, not beneficial, to child behavioral development. Your feelings on the topic are irrelevant.

How has the human race come so far? Spanking has been around for eons. It didn't just turn up over the last few decades.

Humans have also been raping, murdering, and enslaving each other for eons. Humans have been shit for a long time, why is being shit at raising kids too so hard to believe? Having the resources and technology to focus on studying childhood psychology just allowed the flaws of parenting to be shown empirically as opposed to everyone just talking about how they feel it works of making anecdotes.

R*pe is when i got whipped for being a little shit

I was spanked as a child and I turned out OK.

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Spanking isn't abuse FFS.

It is! and is criminalized in most of the world. Enjoy prison fricking child abuser.

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All these “spanking isn’t abuse” motherlovers wanna come fight me and tell me beating on their butt isn’t abuse? Fricking idiots

Spanking is not abuse. If you wanna beat my butt for saying that, that isn't abuse. That's assault.

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I think it’s child abuse NOT to smack an ill behaving child. Proper parenting can mildly steer a toddler to proper behavior with discipline. My proof is centuries of successful child raising compared to the chaos of todays schoolyard.

Please tell me you’re a troll

Sorry. What experience do you have actually raising children. All the way to adulthood.

Look at all the schools full of kids that will not sit down, behave, and do their lessons. Society has an obligation to these kids. Teaching them to behave is the foundation of adulthood.

Yup. And science (although I know you don’t believe in science) says that the best way to do that is not to hit your kids. I can’t believe you’re arguing that it’s a good thing to hit kids lmao this is embarrassing for you.

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Spanking in not automatically abusive, it depends on how you spank the child.

Don't beat children you frick head.

Grow up if you want to interact with adults

Back where I'm from child absuers who beat kids go to prison.

Theres child abuse and there is spanking. Two different things. Also, every country and state has their own laws.

Beating children is abusing them . Full stop. There is no excuse. Do not beat children . Frick you if you do. Yes certain legislations still excuse assault if it's against your own kids, others don't recognize spousal r*pe. I can still think people who do such behavior are bad from a moral standpoint

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It’s just too fricking hilarious to me that The Big Science deliberately created an entire generation of amphetamine addicted therapy dependent zogmutts and people still think “scientists conclusions are the end all.”

Like no shit the studies say that spanking is detrimental. Look at what they think a positive end result is.

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Spanking has been considered a meme forever lol.

Most of the people you're complaining about were spanked.

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Spanking is a tool in what should be a robust tool kit. If it’s your first and only tool that you use for all problems you’re doing it wrong

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I can’t believe how much more votes you’re getting after transitioning from pink

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Pinkies are stinky

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Nah. They're the ones who were coddled their whole lives and didn't turn into blatant psychos. They're closet psychos who needed spankings, destroying the world one child at a time by having them not be hit when they deserve it.

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zogmutts

Im adding this one to my lexicon

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Since spanking is considered abuse, how do you handle a child that all other forms of discipline have no effect on?

Reddit then lists all other forms of discipline

:#marseybrainlet:

Cool thread

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I've never understood why physical pain is believed to be ethically worse than psychological pain.

Like I wish if I did something dumb the cops would just kick the shit out of me and leave me in a ditch somewhere instead of forcing me to go through years of court and shit.

Is locking someone in prison for life really any more "humane" than torturing or just killing them?

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Generally spanking does nothing. It's kind of a meme dumb parents think works.

Edit: before the claim is made I got belted and switched til I was like 14.

And I don't mean white people spankings, but black people ones.

My grandma would set your spanking 2 hours after the offense.

You'd have to think about it the whole time.

She'd have you meet in the yard and she'd make you watch her pick a switch from a tree and and she'd do a few swings in the air so you could hear it whistle in the wind.

One time me and my cousin were out there at once. She said she double booked by mistake but there's no way it was a mistake.

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See folks, if you beat your kids they might end up like pizzashill. Just imagining it makes me feel sick.

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Go seethe somewhere else.

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No

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Pizzashill bad

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Yes? Not for political reasons, just for how you are on like, a personal level. From the little bits of your personal life you've shared you seem like kind of a sad, directionless, coward and it would break my heart for any of my kids to end up like you.

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Dw your kids will be much worse than me.

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Idk my grandma making find a switch sure got me to shut the frick up

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One time me and my cousin were out there at once. She said she double booked by mistake but there's no way it was a mistake.

Lmao. Based Grandma.

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I wish the cops would spank me

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Dead people don’t make money

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I think it's just a bizarre form of moral cowardice

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I had a whole comment about how I was spanked as a kid and I turned out fine, but then I noticed I was typing a long form essay on rdrama about how I was spanked and turned out fine - so yea maybe I didn't turn out fine

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At least you have the self-awareness to know you're not fine.

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I think smacking kids is only necessary if you're a basic r-slur who gets outwitted by your own children.

My two kids instantly comply with whatever order I'm giving them simply by me counting "Minus one, minus two". They think I'm counting how many toys or games or hours of TV they're gunna deprived of. I've got no idea, but it works.

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Corporal punishment is for parents who didn't instill discipline at a young enough age.

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This is absolutely true, but most parents are r-slurs who put almost no effort into learning how to properly train their children, so physical punishment is the only thing left.

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Don't call me retarted I'm just lazy

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HOLY SHIT SOME BASED COMMENTS COMING OUT OF THAT THREAD:

"Go pound sand. I spank and it works"

"Abuse is abuse but a spanking done out of love will not hurt the child but teach them right from wrong. This is part of the problem with youth today, parents are to worried about what others think of them or worried about hurting a child’s feeling rather than disciplining them properly."

"And those studies all use flawed methodologies that don’t account for the fact that kids who are spanked more tend to have more issues in the first place."

"As a man with 3 brother raised by a Dr of education and a mother that was an accountant we got our butts whipped daily because we needed it and I can tell you I turned out great."

"How has the human race come so far? Spanking has been around for eons. It didn't just turn up over the last few decades."

This whole notion that no one should ever experience any negative emotion ever has led us to the :marseytrain: menace, and getting smashed by Chinese kids at math conventions.

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I don't know what you said, because I've seen another human naked.

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Joey, have you ever seen a grown man naked?

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Joey, do ever hang around outside the gym?

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Joey, do you like movies about gladiators?

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Respectable DC grift

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We have to teach 8 year olds about blowjobs and trans people, it will help in their development.

punish a child for acting up with mild spanking… what kind of cruelty is this!!

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Alright yeah it sounds weird when you put it like that

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but the redhatters are not reacting badly to the leftist agenda because they're smart enough to put two-and-two together on their own, it's just that they're racist against biden or something

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I have a behavioir chart that is working wonders with my difficult 5 year old. There are 5 things he needs to do well, go to school happy (he doesn't like going and can throw massive tantrums and yell)(...)

It might be that they don't go straight to class, instead they go to the learning centre (a soecial needs classroom) and play with a preferred toy or talk with a preferred adult for a bit. Sometimes we will create jobs they can do (delivering stuff) to give them a chance to be in the building a bit before settling down in class. Or sometimes i will just make a point of having the first morning activity be a preferred one for that kid for a few weeks, until we build back those positive school feelings.

They suggest all this because a kid isn't happy to go to school lmao. So instead of just telling him to deal with it just treat him and coddle him like hes neurodivergent and when it works pat yourself on the back until he grows up expecting the world to move heaven and earth for his benefit. Just nuke us already for chrissakes

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Call me a manchild all you want but this subreddit is a joke.

Yes, I have come from /r/AskReddit, but that doesn’t make my opinions invalid.

First, it’s ridiculous that you guys make it out to seem like you’re an oppressed group.

Your automod message says ‘scalper’ is an ethnic slur and you call yourselves a minority group. Please, I invite you all to look up the definition of ethnicity. It means the state of belonging to a social group that has a common national or cultural tradition. That means national or cultural customs that are passed down from generation to generation. I’d like to hear how you guys fit that definition, I’m sure you can convince yourselves of something. All you’re doing is disrespecting the suffering of actual oppressed groups. If you think ‘scalper’ is on the same level as the n-word, you’re nuts. Plus, if you really thought it were an ethnic slur, you wouldn’t have put it in the name of your subreddit.

I also love how you describe this subreddit as a safe space while all you seemingly do is boast about your enormous profits and gripe about all the “discrimination” you face. It feels a lot like one big circle jerk, not a source of support. Second, I’d like to point out that people don’t hate you scalpers because of who you are, they hate you because of what you do. Scalping takes the ability to buy stuff away from people who may really want it but can’t afford the prices scalpers charge. Do I want a PS5? Yes. Do I want to spend two or three times the retail price to get one? Not even close. That’s largely thanks to you guys, and that is why people don’t like scalpers. You can choose not to do that, but because you’re greedy and inconsiderate, you won’t. Ultimately, I’m annoyed that you guys scalp, but what I really take issue with is the way you present yourselves; the way you attempt to avoid criticism by fabricating a culture around scalping with the idea that you deserve respect as a minority group. I think you all know it’s BS, but won’t ever admit it.

Of course, y’all are very predictable. I know you’ll call me a manchild simply because you don’t agree with me, claim I’m only jealous of all the money you’re making, and that you’ll try to rationalize and justify your actions like you always do. Be my guest, but I wanted this to serve as a message to all the sane people on this sub.

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If you get to the point where you have to spank your kids, then you've already failed as a parent and should just give them up for adoption. There are far more psychologically effective forms of discipline like extended sleep deprivation, stress positions, and caloric restrictions. These techniques will get you compliance without ever laying hands on a child. Not to mention these techniques were developed by two psychology PhDs and we're extensively field tested in the mid-2000s by the US government. Look up Dr. Mitchell and Dr. Jessen if you don't believe me.

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In Afghanistan they just take you to public executions and beatings to show you what happens if you don’t behave.

My parents parents did this and that whole country turned out pretty good

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If you're an Afghan you're probably very familiar with the techniques I've mentioned.

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There are far more psychologically effective forms of discipline like extended sleep deprivation, stress positions, and caloric restrictions.

Lmao wut. You've been all through this thread against spanking and the whip lash I got from this statement contrasted with that almost broke my neck. You're right though at least on the second (sleep and caloric sound needlessly cruel). If it gets real bad tell your kids to kneel down, face a wall and raise their hands up and just leave them there.

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Look up the doctors I cited and you'll get the joke.

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Lmao I'm r-slurred. Very nice.

:#marseygigaretard:

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Caloric restrictions should be used as a standard part of child-reading outside of discipline. This forces the child to hunt, kill, or steal to make up the caloric deficit. If they get caught, then comes the beating, not for doing wrong but for getting caught.

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Taking kids things away when they’re bad instead of spanking is probably what makes millennials and zoomers blame society and capitalism for them not having a house or consumer shit when they in reality just make bad decisions with money or with life

A good whooping teaches them that they make their own mistakes and face the consequences

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False. A whooping makes them not want to do things again. The lecture before and after makes them think about it. Gotta do both or it's just a beating. Which is fine if you're into that.

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Obviously you explain and make them learn, not just whoop without reason

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spanking isn't abuse, its a sign you got outwitted as a parent that you resort to a lower form of punishment. Psychological punishments are much worse and much more effective and much more widely accepted which will never not be funny to me.

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Easiest solution is obviously just getting them hooked on a drug you control the supply of.

Not only is it accepted but you get praised as a good parent when you then limit their access to video games/candy/"screens" that you got them hooked on in the first place

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Like amphetamines


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Pretty much.

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Are we pretending to be child psychologists now?

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R drama is mostly conservatives at this point with a bunch of wackadoodle opinions they use to screech about "the left"

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What do you reckon I am?

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No, psychologists are grifters making stuff up for shits and giggles. Its telling that the most famous psychologist was sigmund fricking freud.

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And the most famous philosopher was Socrates. Pioneers are famous and wrong.

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Not to imply philosophy is any more respectable a field (they aren't) but socrates at least kicked the bucket thousands of years ago. There are people who have met freud that are still alive.

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Childfree redditors and being experts at child rearing, name a more iconic duo

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adjust the behaviour

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I got spanked as a child and I turned out OK. And by "OK" I mean I sometimes "accidentally" make the "OK" hand gesture.

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i love all these parents that cant imagine that little johnny “doesnt want to go to school and i cant figure out why”

i dont believe the parents, but its hard to tell reddit performances from true rslurration, and the line between them is monofilamented.

Little johnny is an rslur, a loser, or both. It’s mostly an inherited condition.

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Humans have also been raping, murdering, and enslaving each other for eons. Humans have been shit for a long time,

I hate how Redditors call people "humans" all the time. Just stfu you're not a robot or an ayylmao, you're just an neurodivergent r-slur

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If your kids attack somebody physically, you should spank them. They need to learn early on that physically hurting people is very bad, and the best way to instill a lesson in people is to do to them exactly what they are trying to do to others. If my kids turn out anything like me, they're going to grow up to be pretty strong, and if spanking them a few times when they're young can save them from breaking somebody's head and getting jail time later on in life, then I'm doing them a service by spanking them.

I don't think spanking should be used on children for anything else though, only as a punishment for physical attacks. Otherwise you're teaching them that it's OK to use violence as a response to non-violent behavior, and that's a very dangerous lesson. Violence is good only as a response to violent behavior.

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I spank my peepee

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It doesn't matter either way tbh. The current state of things leans in favour of spanking though (and bullying :marseytroublemaker:)

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