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:marseytrain: cry about not being the center of attention in the abortion debate

https://old.reddit.com/r/MtF/comments/ukqxsk/suddenly_trans_women_arent_women_in_leftist?sort=controversial

Once again it's as if we've reverted back in time and the communities I'm apart of, both irl and online (all politically leftist spaces) have had a major, major shift in tone, specifically silencing/speaking over trans women ever since the abortion debate has come to the front again.

All of sudden I'm being spoken over and even told I have no voice in the matter because I'm a male and I need to let the "women" speak. No joke, some have even reverted to excluding trans women from the word woman now and while I've always had difficulty with being gendered correctly because I don't pass, I've been referred to and called a male and a man more times in the last couple weeks than ever before.

smh those foids should do better and listen to the valid non-passing male when she's speaking

Of course, whenever I stand up for myself and eventually grow frustrated, then I'm told I'm an attention seeker and worse, detracting from the discussion, and because I have no idea what it's like as a woman with the reproductive anatomy of a full fledged female, I should stop trying to infiltrate these spaces and stop demanding things of their spaces.

I'm not taking it word for word on that last but the underlying message is clear: Trans Women don't belong.

:marseyhope:

So far I haven't noticed it. But I also only hang out with queer and other trans woman. So I can't really say what the general public thinks of us now. I don't really hang out outside of LGBT groups because I feel like I have to pretend everything is ok

"my trans echochamber hasn't become transphobic"

The socialist groups in my city (in the bible belt) have been leading trans rights protests and are very accepting. Maybe get out of liberal spaces and into socialist groups?

socialism is when trans rights

I second this! We are speaking in sweeping generalizations here, but liberal spaces tend to skew much more right than those who are willing to self-identify as “socialist.”

The democrats are basically right wing at this point

They always have been compared to the rest of the world

the democrats would be fascist in europe!

Any call-out that you're "not a woman" is derailing the conversation, so call them out as making it a trans issue when it's a bodily autonomy issue. Then hammer on that point:

The original ruling was not that abortion is protected, it was that bodily autonomy is protected. Yes, it was heard in the context of abortion, but the ruling was that bodily autonomy is a form of privacy protected by the Bill of Rights.

Overturning Roe v Wade affects everyone, whether they can grow babies or not. All forms of modification that aren't medically necessary are on the chopping block: HRT, SRS, yes... And also vasectomies, cosmetic surgery, even tattoos can be legislated against if bodily autonomy is not a protected right anymore. Sure, they're saying this is only about abortion, but so much of American law is based on precedent. If there's a precedent that bodily autonomy is meaningless, as they're setting now, we're all in danger.

tell those chuds that it's not just about their abortions but also about meeeeeeee

I very much agree and sympathize. We were the Canary in the coal mine, warning people they were coming to take your rights and then when they actually did now we are to outside the mainstream to be part of the conversation. 😮‍💨

this is the literal wheel of trans history☸️

behind every right you have there's a trans woman who fought for it, chud

It depends upon how you define 'leftist spaces,' I think. In communist/socialist spaces? Not so much. Most of my comrades are in full support of my right to not only to exist, but to thrive.

:marseyrevolution: :marseytrans2:

Sometimes I can tell people use my pronouns because they want me to see they tolerate me

rare hint of self-awareness

I would speak louder. But Im hella passive aggressive lol.

Drowning out the voices of people with uteruses when discussing abortion is as inappropriate as cis people drowning out trans voices when discussing trans issues. (jannied)

Having a voice in a social matter is not drowning out anyone. Telling people they don't get an opinion is. Her body, her choice. Im a trans women, that's my voice and no ones silencing me.

You said “speak louder.”

Sounds like drowning out to me. Also, sure, you can have an opinion. You can also have the sense to know when to keep it to yourself.

This isn’t the time for your voice. It also isn’t the time for wealthy voices.

nope. speak louder means refuse to be silenced. I will speak if I want to and you can't stop me.

lol biofoids can't have shit

I've been suspicious of the quantum leap in trans acceptance; specifically the claim that "trans women are women". Because it's been obvious as heck to me that it was an insincere fad that would eventually boomerang.

nothing can ever satisfy these people

Reason number 2761 that Liberals aren't leftist


Progressivism without intersectionality is just tribalism. Transphobia is never justifiable.


Any leftist spaces that exclude trans folk - aren't leftist spaces.


If you don't support trans people, then as far as I'm concerned you're an enemy of the revolution.


There are two answers I can give here:

1. I am a member of the CPC (Communist Party of Canada), and I am treated with nothing but respect and dignity by my comrades. Everyone uses my correct pronouns, my new name, and listens to me with comradely regard. One of my fellow comrades is a non-binary person, and they are treated just as well as I am.

In short, your concerns are false and defamatory, and do not reflect actual leftist organizational attitudes in any way, shape or form. On the other hand, I cannot speak to liberal political organizations, but I would expect them to exhibit all of the bad behaviours which you complain about, and more; liberals after all being little more than conservatives with better manners.

2. How is it down in Langley this time of year, miss agent provacateur?

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abortion banned, mtf trains most affected

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:#marseytrans2:

That's right, chud.

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:#marseytrans:

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If it wasnt for the fact that trains willingly post their L's(closest they'll ever be to a foid), i could have believed a good portion are rightoid trolls to make trains look back. Thats just how stupid and selfish they act lol

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this affects people who can have abortions

up there along people who menstruate

:#marseyxd:

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aborting bodies

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Serious question what happens if a dude takes the coathanger pill?

Actual pill not like some matrix shit.

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What if the aborted baby would have been trans?

TRANNICIDE!

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Trains not making it about them for 1 nanosecond challenge (IMPOSSIBLE)

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It turns out they're really women after all.

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this is unironically the best argument I've heard for that whole "cut off your peepee and magically become a girl" bullshit.

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Woman = no peepee

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Zoomer meme

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Yes but think about the negative effects it has on trans people!

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Leftoids need to start gatekeeping more imo

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Curious how the only working communist regime is known for its own "great purges" of people who don't think trans lives matter

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That's not real communism.

Real communism hasn't been tried.

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The Vatican has entered the chat.

E: lol thank you for supporting carp. What was your arrdrama username @JonathanStench?

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Frickhead reddit joke. Lurk more.

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Leftoids when you say that their favorite genocidal oligarch killed millions because he was insane and power hungry, instead of saying he needed to solve a political issue.

:#marseyrope::!#marseyderanged::!#marseyderanged::!#marseyderanged:

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Especially given that the OP of that post is literally a registered s*x offender (they admit it in another post and everyone eats up the "falsely accused" bs)

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Leftoids need to start gatekeeping

Yes.

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Maybe ghost stalin should think about why his ideology attracts these people

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Stalinism is too based for these tards, most of them are anarchists.

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Stalinism is nationalist. High chance these are trots and annys


:marseyvibing: The Democratic Party will collapse by 2030. :marseyvibing:

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I need to touch grass because I recognized her username from a previous post here :marseygrass:

https://old.reddit.com/r/asktransgender/comments/tsfokw/cringe_freakout_video_of_me_was_uploaded_to_yt/?sort=controversial

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Also, why the heck is KiwiFarms still a thing? Another bunch of traumatized Terfs hiding out on some anti-social forum, lashing out at trans women cause they're afraid of peepee coming into their special safe places. Get fricking stuffed. These kinds of people treat us like we're not human and then get upset when they have to endure the consequences.

How feminine and peaceful

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Amusing that they think anyone on KF is a feminist...

Although let's not kid ourselves, "terf" is now just a generic slur against transphobes, and is no longer an acronym.

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I'm pretty sure there is quite a few female kiwis who lean TERF. Uneasy alliance between them and kiwi scrotes

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and transphobe is everything that doesnt agree in a single yes

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A reddit train commenting about someone being anti-social. That's rich.


Krayon sexually assaulted his sister. https://i.rdrama.net/images/17118241526738973.webp https://i.rdrama.net/images/17118241426254768.webp

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These kinds of people treat us like we're not human and then get upset when they have to endure the consequences.

LMFAOOOO, don't you terfs know that your actions have consequences!!!

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16841411557553663.webp

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This has got to be a master baiter

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Did anyone ever find that video?

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bait

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someone please post the video, i will give u dc :#marseybegging:

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I was falsely convicted of sexual assault by my female co worker, with an address leading back to the site hosting our local s*x offender registry,

either bait or priors confirmed

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lmao

if someone called me "sir" in the checkout line it would def be a blow to my self esteem. i'm a person of non-maleness and if someone mistook me for a dude that would be weird and upsetting. but i would never in a million years dream of making a scene and going into "fight mode" over it. i don't even argue when people cut in line in front of me...i just tell myself they're having an emergency or smthn even tho i know they're probably just rude.

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I think that might be due to your lack of 100,000 years of genetic hardwiring shared by males which gives us a propensity for extreme violence at the drop of a hat

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When it comes to Roe Vs Wade, people who can get pregnant are of course the voice that should be heard most. It might be wise to listen on this issue more than speak.

Please for the love of god don’t try to make this an attention contest about you.

Of course this is downvoted.


Krayon sexually assaulted his sister. https://i.rdrama.net/images/17118241526738973.webp https://i.rdrama.net/images/17118241426254768.webp

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This is what women get for championing trans rights all this time. Absolutely no solidarity in return when actual real rights are lost.

Hope they carry on. Might wake a few more libfems up.

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Lol nah. Women generally skew towards being agreeable and just going along and being nice. Only things they perceive as threatening to their safety or safety of their family can change that, which is basically the main TERF driving force (bathrooms, prisons, r*pe shelters etc.)

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People pretending to be women most affected by women issues.

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Rightoids have a mild statistical tendency towards sociopathy, which is why they work so well in groups. All you have to do is find a common enemy for them to attack, and they naturally unite, because the question subconsciously looping in a Rightoid's brain is "Whom do I hurt?"

But Leftoids have a mild statistical tendency towards narcissism, which is why they have a much harder time working in groups - because there is only so much attention to go around, and the question subconsciously looping in a Leftoid's brain is "How do I make this all about me?"

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Does that mean centroids are both sociopathic and narcissistic?

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Yeah weve got what Amber Heard was diagnosed with :marseybuff: :merdesey:

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:#chadyescapy:

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Best of both worlds - highly selective sociopathy combined with highly selective narcissism. Think "sociopathy under certain triggering conditions" combined with "narcissism, but only in highly specialized fields."

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Thats called being asperges.

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:marseyagree:

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Judgibg from this site?

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We flew planes into WTC just for attention.

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This sounds true so I'm not going to ask for a source.

You see it in UK elections where rightoids unite behind a single party whereas leftists would happily split up into a million splinter groups and swear all the others are just as bad as the rightoids.

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My leftoid group who supports abortions, trans rights and gay rights is the best.

Obviously, your leftoid group who supports abortions, trans rights and gay rights and doesn't support animal s*x rights is literally nazis.

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Because the social fascists of the People’s Communist Party refuses to accept the applicability of material analysis of s*x work in the rural economy they are primary enemy and obstacle of the working class united in one struggle under the banner of the Communist Party of the People! :marseyrevolution::marseylenin:

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I'm literally both of the people you described.

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You should be concerned about that. A little bit of narcissism and sociopathy mixed together is very healthy. The narcissism makes you angry about anybody trying to exploit you and the sociopathy makes people terrified of the consequences of trying to exploit you, so you get a very healthy attitude of "if you try to steal from me, I will hurt you and everybody you love" - a personality trait that's very useful in any capitalist system. But if you have too much narcissism and sociopathy it makes it very hard to build cooperative relationships with people, which can be a real hindrance in terms of achieving your goals.

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I think I'm right in the middle like that bald amnesiac

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the biggest positive to come out of all of this roe v wade stuff is that :quote: trans women :quote: are finally being told they aren't ACTUALLY women.

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terfs have been telling them this all along where were you trans lives matter

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I thought this leak was going to kill any repubs chance but if the :marseytrain2:aloons really change the argument off of actual abortion and water it down with a bunch of other shit like:

Overturning Roe v Wade affects everyone, whether they can grow babies or not. All forms of modification that aren't medically necessary are on the chopping block: HRT, SRS, yes... And also vasectomies, cosmetic surgery, even tattoos can be legislated

Bruh, I will laugh so hard. If they can overshadow abortion being the most important part and actually everyone gets an equal say! Turning the convo to include chopping peens and lip injections will be the most :marseydab: thing any scrote ever pulled on women.

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Why are doctors prescribing ShitRedditSays

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Suddenly Trans Women aren't Women in leftist spaces anymore

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All of sudden I'm being spoken over and even told I have no voice in the matter because I'm a male and I need to let the "women" speak.

yes

and while I've always had difficulty with being gendered correctly because I don't pass,

lol

I've been referred to and called a male and a man more times in the last couple weeks than ever before.

that's because that's what you are and what everyone thinks you are behind all the virtue signaling

Of course, whenever I stand up for myself and eventually grow frustrated, then I'm told I'm an attention seeker and worse, detracting from the discussion,

:#marseyagree:

and because I have no idea what it's like as a woman with the reproductive anatomy of a full fledged female, I should stop trying to infiltrate these spaces and stop demanding things of their spaces.

:#marseyagreefast:

I'm not taking it word for word on that last but the underlying message is clear: Trans Women don't belong.

yes, finally you get it :#marseyclapping:

How are we supposed to respond or even be able to have a voice in places where we're now being invalidated?

ywnbaw, the only correct response is to cope seethe and dilate :#marsey41:

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:#marseysoypoint::#sciencejak: golden TERF

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trains being told to stfu and let other people be heard is throwing them for a loop.

But abortion is an issue I hold close to my heart for personal and family reasons and I’ve been furious since the leak occurred

They're even making CHUD arguments to try and assert themselves into the debate

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Highest effort :marseytrain: post

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I guess it would have been nice if :!marseytrain:s for once showed a bit of solidarity with women. Since they totally are women, it's surprising they aren't.

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:#marseyredmage:

Snapshots:

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i thought this was a pimp smh

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When it comes to Roe Vs Wade, people who can get pregnant are of course the voice that should be heard most. It might be wise to listen on this issue more than speak. Please for the love of god don’t try to make this an attention contest about you.

-20 points holy shit

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:!marseytrain:s when they aren’t the center of attention in woke media for 1 day

:marseyschizotwitch: :marseyschizoshaking:

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:!marseytrain:s are emblematic of the societal decay that capitalism causes, as social relations desolve and become meaningless labels that you as an individual apply to yourself to try and find any semblance of meaning or self in our pathetic wagie lives.:marseywagie:

Idk i'm just some fricking r-slur on the internet


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I was wondering how long it would take extremely online troids to make this about themselves. To their credit, it's been a few days later than I expected.

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the revolution

These terminally online r-slurs fold like a chair over words, their revolution posting is a cringe online larp.

I'd snap a train in half.

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the fact that they're using roe v wade to get attention is proof that they're real women

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so what we are seeing here is the groundwork being laid for the socialist revolution in USA, which will naturally be led and manned (womann'd) by mtf transpeople who were galvanized against capitalism by giving states the right too legislate with greater freedom. is that right? trans lives matter

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