touch foxglove NOW 
It's day three of me literally just posting wholesome bible verses to /r/Christianity, and the """Christians""" are tired of this tomfoolery 
https://old.reddit.com/r/Christianity/comments/una3tv/before_i_formed_you_in_your_mothers_body_i_chose?sort=controversial
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alright, have a blessed day, peace ✌
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NO YOU CAN'T JUST POST BIBLE VERSES WTF
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Let’s be real don’t use emojis is basically the 11th commandment
Trans lives matter
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The best part is when the mod acts like a complete butt to you and then jannies your polite response. How fragile lmao.
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nvrmind, found it. hahahaha
lmao what a b-word
the wwjd rule is literal cuckoldry lmao
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Jesus would become a pretentious janny on reddit. He'd definitely do.
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y'all can't behave nukes sodom
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alright have a blessed day, peace
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thats my line! get your own one liner!
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Nah, he hanged out with whores and criminals. He'd def proselytize among us sinners here
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Jesus would have been banned from /r/christianity years ago for not being "Christlike".
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Interesting, I just had a thought:
@Klenvastergan, are you banned from /r/Christianity and if yes, then why?
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I'm not banned from there because I've never posted there!
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Why arent you sharing the love of Jesus? Christmaxxing is the future
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I'm sharing the love of Jesus with rDrama!
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I love how the jannies of /r/Christianity are seething atheists. Reddit moment
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The fact that in the 2nd reply he activated the jannie identification things on the username lolololol
Its like if someone pulled out their hall monitor badge mid discussion to look tougher
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I've never seen the, "what no kitty does to a mfer" so clearly and eloquently than in this instance. He is so outside of reality this was a flex. I wonder if he realizes a bunch of weirdos are laughing hysterically at him off site.
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Aight have a blessed day
On my authority this is heckin discourse violation
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"IT SAYS NO DRINKS ALLOWED RIGHT THERE ON THE WALL BRO!"
"You're a faag, dude"
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Emojis are great because they make redditors seethe without having to say anything that is outright offensive. emojimaxxing is the future
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👆👆👆 this but also they are fun
PBUH OG emojinator EdButterToast 🧈🍞
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yes, but I’d argue that BasicallyADoctor was the first user to make people angry with over the top emoji posting
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What happened to Ed and pizza btw? I really miss their posts.
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pizza migrated to here, Ed is dead as far as I know but I maybe wrong.
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It's because they by default make redditors assume you are an uninitiated not-terminally-online Normie. Interacting with Anyone who isn't as terminally angry as them really infuriates them
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Posting verses people can actually read and understand to own the caths
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cathcucks will hear "Horae Dorum Patchum - Excelsious En Deo Gloria" and say darn that is so true
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prots will hear "hazemmamma asota kikle cobelle futalianui" and say he's got the holy spirit
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caths will see a priest waving his hand over some wine and say darn that's literally blood
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prots will do pagan snake dance rituals and claim to be chosen by God for not getting bitten
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caths when they forget to confess that one sin before they die
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Prots when my lord and savior showers them with truth, grace, and light
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Caths looking for the pointer finger of St. Jude (very holy)
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Mormons will dress in white robes and memorize handshakes for 2 hours while pretending to be a dead person
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I'm sold.
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You get be a G-d on your own planet after you die too
If I wasn't one of the Chosen People I would have probably gone Mormon
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We don’t do the handshake thing when doing baptisms for the dead. That’s only for the true blue Mormons.
was raised Mormon
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Yeh, baptisms are more lax, except when you're the one getting dunked as the dude gets his rhythm going and you barely have time to breathe. Endowments and Wash/Anoint are just plain awful.
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Once when I did baptisms we got yelled at
because the furry kid snuck his 3ds into the temple and was playing it on the bench.
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I just noticed that you dropped TBM
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lol for real I remember when I was a kid them getting all serious like NO, ITS REAL BLOOD
So wait you really think that guy made that horrid watered down grape juice into jesus blood? Hey quick question, are you fricking brain dead or just super-dy duper-dy stupid?
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Its weird because all theyd have to do to prove god exists is take a microscope into church lol
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yeah then maybe they can take the microscope and look for some evidence that he actually ever lived outside of being invented in the 3rd century by a bunch of land chads
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Everyone get your fedoras out we got a Jesus truther here
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sky daddy, magic man etc etc
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first ever landchad meeting to discuss ways to control rentoid menace
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Hey, chud, I’m not brain dead!
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A lot of Prots think it’s blood as well though.
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You just made the “Trinedine Liturgy List” so expect agents dispatched to your location shortly
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the priests will never take me alive, soli deo gloria b-word
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It's over for clumps-of-cels
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What's the argument here though? A baby is a fricking dumb useless noisy lump of meat until it's not, so I don't see what there point is.
If it's OK to kill cells it's OK to kill a baby by this logic. Both have the same potential.
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Think people just need to be honest and move away from this whole debate around at what point does human life begin nonsense.
Its a balance between the mother's rights and the unborn baby's rights with the two sides disagreeing where that balance lies.
My solution is to provide abortions by way of medically-induced deliveries. If the baby survived, the mother has to keep it. If the baby dies, the abortion was a success. This approach solves all the complexity and should make everyone happy.
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Papist agents have been dispatched to your location.
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But that's not true now. Ignoring abortions entirely, if a woman gets pregnant, carries the pregnancy to term, and gives birth to a healthy child, they're still allowed to just dump them at a safe harbor location and sever all ties.
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I understand your pain. Redditors are too stupid to clarify what they're arguing about, so let's try:
Translation: The definition of a baby involves more than just a thoughtless, unaware, senseless collection of cells. [Implied: there has to be something else to fully constitute a "baby."]
Translation: I partially agree; however, the viability of the fetus and [somehow] the intense desire of the woman wanting the baby are relevant.
That's it. No, I'm not going to look at the thread for additional context. It's an issue of semantics, mainly revolving around "personhood status." No philosopher has figured that out, so the abortion debate will rage on.
The "flip a coin" method is nice, but few will appreciate its ineffectiveness. Yeah, the rights of both parties matter, but again you're begging the question by assuming that the unborn baby is a person with said rights. You want to avoid that semantics issue, but ya can't. No one really can.
I'd just settle for <12-20 weeks = abortion zone.
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I just like the fact you used that phrase properly. Above average intellect Dramanaut.
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No one in the abortion debate actually gives a frick about convincing arguments.
It's why no one ever bothers with defining when exactly a fetus becomes a sentient human being: libs might as well say consciousness starts outside of the womb while rightoids pretend a zygote is somehow already a fully-fledged human being.
They're both ridiculous bullshit, and that's the point.
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Rightoids use both sentience and soul arguments so they complement each other
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It’s the same logic used for eliminating r-slurred people
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I support stomping on babies unironicly. If they are ugly you just try again
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Cells don't trigger their sense of empathy, humanoid fetuses do. That's it.
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unironically the reason that you never hear a "save the amazon cockroaches" campaign, it's always cute animals.
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zoz
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blessed by zozbot
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zozbot is a servant of god 👆
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So do these "Christians" believe in a soul, or...
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It never even began for clumps of cells-cels
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Christcucks absolutlely BTFO
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She's not giving it up, she's killing it you fricking dweebs
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Kind of don't understand why anyone would want to join a club if they have no intention of sticking to the rules.
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literally just go to /r/atheism if you don't want to see people posting bible verses
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Please do not tell me or other users to go somewhere else. That is a discourse violation. You are welcome to post on this forum, but we expect users to have good-faith conversations.
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Consequences of the participation award mentality
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this. make your own group, don't dilute existing groups. i don't like cringetopia but i don't join and force them to change their ways
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You think people actually join the club? It's 99% by birth
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That’s true for literally every religion including atheism
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This is worse then men commenting on ask women
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literally. it's a complete joke of a subreddit, filled to the brim with subconscious self-loathing for being a Christian, and people stumbling over each other to prove they are one of the "good ones". it is an example of the "buffet-line" of American culture completely destroying something by allowing people to be everything at once, and therefore nothing.
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I remember a while ago someone on there asked if it was gay to date his trans GF and only the caths and orths were saying he was gay…
Absolute state of the west
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tbf your average 2022 christian has learned that debating anything related to religion on the internet is pointless. its pissing into an ocean lmao
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https://old.reddit.com/r/Christianity/comments/sffl2s/what_if_your_significant_other_is_post_operation/?sort=controversial
If anyone wants to read the post I mentioned
Edit: actually it’s this one, apparently this pops up there once a month
https://old.reddit.com/r/Christianity/comments/p5pgra/is_it_sin_to_date_a_trans_women/?sort=controversial
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It’s not unique to Americans, although Burgers are bad in particular about not looking at the big picture and avoiding and personal discomfort regardless of potential benefits.
Belief systems change, otherwise we’d still be making burnt offerings to God or practicing Aryanism. Once the Bible was published in the vernacular, the word was more accessible and people were less bound by any one doctrine.
Still, anyone who posts on Plebbit seems to fall over themselves to adhere to whatever the group consensus is, probably a result of the updoot system and lust for fake internet pointarinos
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yeah this is true. it's just that we have a tendency to bastardize everything and turn it into fricking mcdonalds, lmao. Like look at how we butchered eastern mysticism into "dude peace lmao".
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Does Christianity believe in determinism?
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I have no actual beliefs, I'm just making stuff up that sounds good lol. (I'm actually an atheist). To answer your question, some of them do (calvinists) some of them don't (armenians). my alter ego doesn't care, he is a 95-IQ chad that just wants to praise jesus for gods sake
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Hard determinism is actually my only real belief. If you believe that every force and piece of matter is measurable and calculable, anything else is impossible.
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chad fricking my wife is just a part of the deterministic path of the universe, in which i am but a leaf in the wind
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Eh, I'm pretty sure it's practically impossible to actually calculate every force in the universe.
Outside of semantics, is a deterministic universe where no one can actually determine what will happen really that different from a non-deterministic one?
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Not everything is calculable though. If you entangle two photons and measure them a million miles away, one of them will be spin up and the other will be spin down with 50% probability. We have no ability even in principle to predict or calculate which will be which even knowing 100% of the information in the system.
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Them not being calcuable is not the same as them not being deterministic though. We just can't show it.
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I'm going off of what
@transmission_enjoyer said: measurable and calculable. If you think determinism can exist without being calculable even in principal, then I'd question what your definition of "determinism" is? I think you run into unresolvable philosophical issues if you say determinism can exist without certainty in outcome.
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I’m sorry to hear that
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alas I am neither a <100IQ chad nor a >130IQ gigabrain
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You’re selling yourself short, I’m pretty sure the stable atheist IQ is 120-140.
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all Christians are either happy low-IQ people that have a huge family, or high-IQ pastors that are chads. atheists are midwits
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I can’t argue with that, don’t worry I’m and agn*stic/buddhist midwit and all the really 2000 IQ megageniuses I meet are either Christian or Hindu.
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Judging by that number im going to guess you're RP'ing as a wypipo. What could be amusing though is if you did a 🏀.
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ACAB
All
Calvinists
Are
Bastards
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seethe. calvinism is biblically consistent.
"what about all the people God predestined to go to Heck then" 
they deserve it
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Impossibly based, my child
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Calvinists do, most do not.
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the proper term is calvinchads. as in "calvinchads dunk on armencucks"
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You were predestined to make that comment.
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ur mom is predestined to suck my peepee lmao
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Catholicism at least has a fatalistic (realistic) view on humanity. Martin Luther? More like Martin StuffDisDickInYourAss
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They usually believe God knows the future. Whether that's compatible with free will is up to theologycels
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Even the ones that say they don't believe in it, they all believe that God is omniscient of the past present and future, created each one of us, knew everything we would ever do and if we would end up in heaven or heck, and still chose to make us that way.
So yeah, all Christianity is by necessity determinist.
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Nope, because if you subscribe to the classical theistic school of thought (as the overwhelming majority of Christian theologians/philosophers did in the past, and the majority in the present still do), God isn't just a being in the universe, but exists outside of it, and therefore isn't constrained by time and causality. Past, present and future are the same thing for him.
This means that even Aquinas, who argued in favor of the complete foreknowledge of God of all things and predestination, can still be interpreted as a free will libertarian.
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I mean he's looking at the universe he created and knew how it would all play out based on how he made it. Those theologians just came up with some wordplay so they can always say "nuh uh, you're wrong, God isn't they way you're describing him because whatever you said doesn't apply to him."
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It's more like him existing in the future, the present and the past simultaneously.
Basically, think of it as being fundamentally analogous to time travel.
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I can grasp that but being an omniscient and omnipotent Prime Cause, knowing precisely how your present actions will create future events where your mind exists at the same time, and still having chosen to do things that way, it not only makes everything your fault, but it really doesn't give us much leeway to say that we are truly making choices.
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As opposed to naturalism plainly stating that everything that has happened and will ever happen is determined by the arbitrary arrangement of matter in the Big Bang and the arbitrary set of physical laws that governs the universe?
If one takes such a reductionist view, then free will doesn't exist in either scenario.
Your free will is contingent on the set of possibilities that's at your disposal; it isn't completely free, but arguing that because of that it doesn't exist at all is a massive stretch.
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bush did 9/11
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Yes, but Afghanistan and Iraq deserved to get invaded anyway.
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George Bush did nothing wrong
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