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:marseyfreezepeach: ACLU intervenes in lawsuit by r*ped female prisoners, to deny that humans are male or female :marseymugshot:

https://old.reddit.com/r/stupidpol/comments/uorm7x/aclu_intervenes_in_lawsuit_by_raped_female?sort=controversial

Seems like the ACLU's back to its old habits so soon after this: https://rdrama.net/post/67042/aclu-flip-flops-on-ddr-ban

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The American Civil Liberties Union is intervening in a lawsuit launched by four female inmates who were subjected to abuse at the hands of trans-identified male transfers. In the intervention, the ACLU claims that human beings are “not sexually dimorphic,” and that males have no biological differences from females.

In November of 2021, the Women’s Liberation front (WoLF) launched a lawsuit against the California Department of Corrections and Rehabilitation (CDCR) in response to the state’s transfer of male inmates to women’s prisons. In the suit, WoLF included representation for four female inmates currently incarcerated in the state who had experienced violations of their rights at the hands of male inmates who had been transferred under SB-132, one of which was sexually assaulted by a trans-identified male transfer.

SB-132, or the Transgender Respect, Agency, and Dignity Act, went into effect in January of 2021, and allowed male inmates to seek transfer to women’s prisons on the basis of self-declared gender identity. Male inmates did not have to be on hormones, have surgery, be diagnosed with gender dysphoria, or even have legal documents supporting their transgender status in order to gain transfer.

But the ACLU has now filed a motion to intervene in the suit, claiming the state of California cannot adequately represent their interests against WoLF, and that they must join in to defend SB-132.

But in the motion, filed on May 9 in the Fresno District Court, the ACLU not only rejects the details in WoLF’s suit, it also makes some bold assertions — including that “males” and “females” do not exist.

“Proposed Intervenors deny that ‘men as a class’ are defined and differentiated from ‘women as a class’ by their ‘anatomy, genitalia, physical characteristics, and physiology,'” the ACLU writes, going on to state that they “deny the allegation” that there are anatomical, genital, and physical characteristics that differentiate men from women.

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The ACLU also claims that human beings are not sexually dimorphic, and there are no reproductive systems, hormones, or chromosomes which result in differences between males and females.

Speaking to Reduxx, WoLF legal director Lauren Adams expressed a mix of confusion and amusement at the ACLU’s claims in the filing. But rather than seeing it as an obstacle, Adams says there is opportunity that bodes well for WoLF’s position.

“The ACLU is suggesting that the state of California is not going to adequately represent their position because some officials don’t agree with the policy… to that, I would say: well, yeah! Once people find out what the policy is, they largely don’t support it,” she says, continuing: “The officials likely recognize they cannot keep women safe while successfully implementing the policy.”

Adams says the ACLU’s intervention may be the result of a concern that the state might be more inclined to protect incarcerated women than trans-identified males.

“I think the fact that the state is even saying that they care about the women’s safety is a threat to the ACLU. They joined in to make sure that there was at least one party in the case that didn’t care about women at all.”

Adams says that the ACLU often leverages their argument for transferring men into women’s institutions on the basis of a claimed risk of victimization while in a men’s institution, something Adams believes opens the door to an argument that they are also at a higher risk of perpetration.

“If you are saying this group has a risk of victimization, we can say the group also has a risk of perpetration. In the federal system, one-third of the substantiated prison r*pe complaints include a victim who was a s*x offender. That is, in fact, the single biggest risk factor of being a victim of prison r*pe in male prisons.”

Adams notes that, despite ample evidence to the contrary, the ACLU denies that s*x offenders were disproportionately represented amongst trans-identified male inmates, a claim that is easy to debunk.

“One-third of the requests for transfer from men’s prisons to women’s prisons include an inmate who had been convicted of a s*x offense,” Adams says, noting that the figures are similarly stark in the federal prison system, where 48% of trans-identified male inmates were imprisoned on a s*x offense.

“Ultimately what we are dealing with is a complete denial of reality,” Adams says, “The ACLU along with every person on this planet knows what men and women are, and what makes them different. Their denial of this fact in order to validate the identities of male offenders is embarrassing.”

WoLF is expected to file their response to the ACLU’s intervention by May 31.

https://reduxx.info/aclu-claims-males-females-do-not-exist-court-docs/

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In the intervention, the ACLU claims that human beings are “not sexually dimorphic,” and that males have no biological differences from females.

this is literally just flat earth levels of delusion, but for biology

why does anyone take these loons seriously when they say shit like this?

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I think its amazing that somehow medical anomalies completely derail the significance of the male/female s*x categories. Meanwhile theres far more mixed race people than intersex people and yet libtards don't think that completely derails racial categorization.

why does anyone take these loons seriously when they say shit like this?

You'd be amazed at the power of liberal guilt

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The only shocking part to me is how much doctors and other medical professionals have joined in. It's honestly really disheartening to me to hear my friend who just became a doctor talk about how there's basically no medical difference between trans women and real women.

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Libtards will just say that s*x is socially constructed the same way they do about race

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If you really want them to screech like the witch in wizard of oz tell them their guilt is just catholic guilt in disguise.

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Normal person: There are differences between men and women

Average Redditor: But heckin’ wholesome INTERSEX FOLX :marseysnoo::soyjakfront::soyjakhipster:

Normal person: BMI is useful to cull out fatties and tell them to touch grass

Average Redditor: But bodybuilders exist and that makes BMI heckin’ UNVALID

:soyreddit::soycry::ragejak:

I HATE REDDITORS

:#marseyhammersnoo::#marseyhammersnoo::#marseyhammersnoo:

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But bodybuilders exist and that makes BMI heckin’ UNVALID

R-slurred redditors (but I repeat myself) don't realise that being a lean 30BMI is pretty darn unhealthy.

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Someone should get them to start demanding 6 fingered gloves because some people have an extra thumb.

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Meanwhile theres far more mixed race people than intersex people and yet libtards don't think that completely derails racial categorization.

good point

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One drop rule

Any mayo ancestors mean you're sick with Yakub's poison

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yet libtards don't think that completely derails racial categorization

Lol yes they do. Look up anything about race and you'll see simpering morons claiming that everything under the sun disproves the existence of races. Even when they do a study that proves that races exist they have to load the abstract with libspeak denying their own findings so that they can actually get published.

I can't find it now but there was one good one where the abstract was like "we tested so and so's claim that when you look at dozens of genes race can't be distinguished and found it to be true! Therefore their claim that race doesn't exist based on this data was accurate" And then in the actual data they go "... but now that we can compare thousands of genes we've found that we can use genetic testing to group people into folk racial categories with 100% accuracy"

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Libs, like their right wing counterparts, will believe in race when it suits their agenda. Who do you think is still pushing for (insert race) history months and telling people to promote (insert race) owned businesses?

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It's true that they use race but they justify it completely differently. Genetics or really any arguments that it's an inherent quality are forbidden, so they argue that people are all identical except for skin color and that BIPOCs have "race" applied to them and are oppressed because they've been "racialized".

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But this is the same logic applied to s*x and being "assigned (fe)male at birth". And yet if you try to argue for recognizing transracialism you better be ready for a tsunami of seethe.

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Expecting a western standard of logical consistency is white supremacy, bigot. Racialized people have different ways of knowing that simply cannot be put into words that you would understand.

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Maybe its different in burgerstan, but here it is in my experience literally just because journoids hide like 90% of the truth to "sanewash" it.

Normal People tolerate train shit (and its not really a big thing here in the first place) because they want to be nice and theyre told that trains are literally just born in the wrong body. It doesnt cost anything to be nice to them, so most people are fine with it. But behind closed doors, most dont actually think the trains are women. Its like playing along with a child saying he's a fire engine. And they dont know anything about AGP or grooming or the correlation with s*x crimes, because the media keeps quiet about all of it, and most people arent terminally online to notice.

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Maybe its different in burgerstan, but here it is in my experience literally just because journoids hide like 90% of the truth to "sanewash" it.

Its definitely the same shit here in that respect.

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holy shit, this is an extreme position to take. What the experts are saying is that there are a very small group of people who have brain differences, just like all things in biology we're very imperfect. But rejecting the blatant sexual differences is a radical departure from science. You don't need a medical degree to figure that out.

More anti-science from the believe science crowd.

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This is great for discrediting them. Saved

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