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r/medicine Roe vs Wade thread is :marseychefkiss:

https://old.reddit.com/r/medicine/comments/vjpisy/roe_v_wade_has_officially_been_overturned?sort=controversial

I can't believe nobody has posted this thread yet, it is pretty good :marseywave:

is anyone here pro life? just a question.

This is the best chain in the thread by far :marseywinner:

I don't understand why Republicans want to reverse Roe v Wade when the majority of Americans (60% iirc) want to keep it! They aren't representing the ppl that elected them. This is very sad 😔

This is literally a grab bag of :marseygigaretard: replies, you can't be disappointed if you click.

Nobody is talking about how this is going to absolutely destroy trans men, non-binary people, and other LGBTQIA+ patients who already struggle immensely to obtain reproductive healthcare.

I think it's overall the right decision. The supreme court is there to interpret the law, not create policy. That's the job of Congress.

I support abortion but only in the first trimester. I've been present and participated in later term abortions and it was a really horrifying experience for both myself and the doctor performing the procedure.

You're allowed to care about abortion rights and killing babies at the same time, the two aren't mutually exclusive. I think the best thing that could come of this is Congress getting good medical guidance and statistics on abortions and codify that into law. Ofc there are situations and uncontrollables that make this topic extremely polarizing and hard to solve, but wishing for the death of Republicans or pushing them out of medicine is truly wild to see from my fellow doctors in the medical community.

I’m sorry it was a horrifying experience for you. But continuing a pregnancy that is unwanted or worse wanted but not possible it’s a lot more horrifying for the pregnant person.

Know what's scarier than a dead baby? A living one :marseyscared:

Given that most significant fetal abnormalities are not detected until the anatomy scan at 20 weeks - how can you only be in favour of abortion in the first trimester? Is it your position that women should be made to carry these non viable or severely disabled foetuses to term, only for the babies to be born, suffer and then die? That sounds like psychological torture for the woman, and cruelty to the baby.

No. I support abortion to preserve the woman's life and if the baby has been miscarried.

I'm not talking about miscarried babies I'm talking about babies who have deformities that are not compatible with life outside of the womb - they will die shortly after birth, after a short period of suffering. And after months of agony for the parents, knowing that this is the fate of their child.

:chudsey: court has decided the baby must suffer

Really glad I’m in the call room, I spent 10 minutes sobbing…

Is there any way we can help patients get access? Telemedicine or otherwise?

r/auntienetwork we need them everywhere.

that sub is worth a look as well :marseyagree:

Good news.

Hopefully you or a loved one never needs a lifesaving abortion and die because of lack of access to healthcare.

Already has happened, but thanks for your good wishes

:#marseygigachad:

Scratch out the high risk part. When abortion is illegal, and the consequences of unwanted pregnancy so high, is there really such thing as too young for sterilization?

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The risks are immeasurable for cisgender women, now quadruple that for trans / non-binary / genderqueer / etc. patients.

It's heart breaking how I haven't seen a single source anywhere mention any of these people. They are going to be even worse off than they already were in regards to being able to seek or obtain any kind of safe care.

:marseyfemboy: most impacted

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God lefties have to stop saying shit like "No one does that" because it literally takes one example and all of their credibility is fricking shot.

"No one uses abortions as birth control!"

B-word I knew a girl in highschool who had ATLEAST 5 fricking abortions because her boyfriend was black and her parents were racist, cuz the south.

We used to call her graveyard kitty, haunted cooter, etc.

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I knew a girl that had 3 by 15 cos she was a mega whore lol

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I also know ur mom haha lol hehe

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:#tayclap:

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"What's in the box?"

"Pain."

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Heck, that was the norm in Eastern Europe for the latter half of the 20th century.

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"Nobody uses abortion as birth control!"

"Banning abortion is LITERALLY forcing vagina-havers to be breeding cattle!"

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Its about respecting the democracy of 9 unelected people.

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R-slur still doesn't understand what a republic is

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Judges should be elected and then be partial in favour of those who elected them button

Judges should not legislate from the bench button

Cleans sweat

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Those 9 people are by definition not there to represent the will of the people.

The will of the people is directly present only in the legislative branch and if you actually want your views to be heard you should be using them rather than kicking the can all the way down the road to people who by their very job description do not have to care about what you think.

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Noooooooo im going to protest instead of writing a congresscritter

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I knew a girl in highschool who had ATLEAST 5 fricking abortions because her boyfriend was black and her parents were racist, cuz the south.

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I refuse to take seriously the opinion of anyone who pretends the abortion question isn't at least a little difficult.


:#marseytwerking:

:marseycoin::marseycoin::marseycoin:
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kill em all. How is this hard for you guys? The cave people knew to do this. If tribe = other, remedy = exterminate.

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brave

:#marseyclappingglasses:

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Tell that to my either side of my family, both with exact opposite views on abortion, both would consider disowning anyone who suggests even a hint of nuance. And these people haven't earned the right to be this confident about anything in their lives.


:#marseytwerking:

:marseycoin::marseycoin::marseycoin:
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Abortion is as difficult of a question as spitting/swallowing. The longer you think about it, the more you suffer by holding on to it. Don't think, just swallow. No cleaning up afterwards or anything.

:#fancywithwine:

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I’m pro-choice, states should definitely make laws allowing abortions (up to 3 months) :derpsnickering:

It’s not like the military or tariff policies where it has to be a national thing

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It's not difficult. Don't kill babies chud

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When the vast majority of abortions take place (first three months) it is absolutely simple.

Anything after that is up for scrutiny.

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Here is my argument, from someone with no natural sense of morality.

Throughout history the actions of human beings have clearly demonstrated that we do NOT value life. We find it wholly disposable. We breed, overwhelm, and master our environment to the point that we must fight each other. We develop weapons and tactics to end life on such a scale that it would seem odd to even start speaking of morals.

We used to let children die of exposure. We'd work them to death. We would treat them as little more than domesticated animals. And if they'd die, we'd just pump out more.

In fact, we had to develop entire institutions around restricting our bloodlust and indifference to human life.

Why the frick does someone else's spawn matter, when I don't even care about the adult to begin with?

We are not nice things and it's hard to take anyone seriously who pretends we are.

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Devil's advocate, I guess.

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Allowing immoral acts to be common and accepted in society creates degeneration in society. Just look at :!marseytrain:s, pride month, and coomers.

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Hanger or stairs?

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As a city resident it's not a difficult question at all.

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I think suicide and homicide might rise too if folks think they've got no choice but to go through with an unwanted pregnancy. I keep thinking of all the gun access in America and wondering if people will shoot themselves in the belly outside a hospital entrance, hoping they'll be saved, instead of the coat hangers etc of decades past. And will r*pe perpetrators who discover their victim is pregnant resort to murdering her to avoid being on the hook for the unwanted child. So many nightmare scenarios...

least insane and psychopathic redditor, what the frick are they talking about

:#marseyschizowall::#marseyhanger:

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>GP in Aus

Could it be?? :troll:

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Nah this got debunked by the covid response from Aussie. Aussies are kitty

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I think it's a bot regurcitating stuff from twoX and pol.

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It sounds like the redditor desperately wants some preggo to shoot her stomach outside a hospital because it would be a bold statement.

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>Be pregnant for 9 months

>Get c-section with lots of drugs

>give baby up

Vs

>actually Shoot yourself in the gut, maybe killing yourself in the process

Foid decision making is a mystery to me

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The risks are immeasurable for cisgender women, now quadruple that for trans / non-binary / genderqueer / etc. patients.

:#marseyattentionseeker::#marseyattentionseeker::#marseyattentionseeker:

I swear if I didn't know any better they would seem like anti-abortionist false flags :marseyschizowall:

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Everything is quadruple bad for trans and queer people - global warming, access to abortions, tooth decay and paper cuts...


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This is an interesting thread:

"I will say that before I became a Sonographer I was staunchly pro-choice. Now; ten years on… not so much. I have seen the worst of it. The scenarios people say don’t exist. The using abortion as birth control, the getting rid of perfectly normal babies because it’s not the right paternity (timing wise), money concerns.. the list goes on. I unfortunately take on the role of one sided therapist when performing these exams. Patients divulge so much to us.

“Congratulations on your pregnancy; best of you luck to you.”

“Oh I’m going to get rid of it. But thanks though”.

I wish I could say it’s only happened once but I’ve spent lots of time crying in my office over it. I hate OBGYN now and try to focus solely on other aspects of ultrasound. The emotional toll is just too much.

I’m glad I never had to choose to overturn this or not because the logical side of me appreciates there is nuance and complexity to the situation but as a society life is just so disposable. Even for the most minor of inconveniences. "

A medical practicioner who deals with it every day verifies most abortions arent about r*pe of weird life threatening pregnancies but just for convenience and not caring for potential human life and the hive mind is being brutal to her.


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they went hard on mu abertions because of the r*pe baby scenario and the threatens the mother's life scenario. Both of these are extremely rare. They are not in any way shape or form common medical needs. You wouldn't know it just browsing any thread with this topic though.

Current theory I have is most of these people just lie to themselves about it because their conscience is very guilty about how 99% of abortions are purely out of convenience, they know that, they know it's wrong but admitting that would break their NPC brains due to having to take even the smallest bit of personal responsibility and nothing makes a libtard scream and writhe more like a vampire in direct sunlight than personal responsibility.

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I support abortions because it's polite eugenics. Less homeless. Less poverty. Less r-slurred babies compared to before growing into r-slurred adults. Permits IVF treatments for genetic enhancements when we treat a fetus as a medical product. When I fall into heck my landing is cushioned by 10ft deep fields of dead babies who never got baptized. What's there not to love?

Why is an abortion of convenience wrong though? I mean if a r*pe baby can be aborted then so can a normal baby. Both of them were equally alive. If you say only r*pe babies should be legally aborted you are saying a persons mental health has higher worth than the value of an innocent life. Which again is a contradiction. You are still playing in riddles. Got to choose a side man. Stay consistent. Either pre babies are to be saved or they are not to be saved.

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Yeah I know and if you point this out they undoubtedly a link to "muh source" on the internet of some anonymous study somehow showing 90% of abortions are because of incest r*pe situations. Like it's not 1970 anymore there so many ways to not get pregnant now we really shouldn't be vacuuming babies out of people non-chalantly.


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Yeah, but wearing a condom doesn't FEEL as good, and the pill can make a foid fat

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😴😴😴

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This is unjust snooze posting! OP was quoting!

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Frick off @Swagman!


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Everyone here is a medical professional. Dump the loaded term, you're asking anyone here if they're in favor of abandoning basic care and allowing patients to suffer and possibly die.

Dump the loaded term bro, don't say 'pro-life'. But I'm free to refer to an abortion as 'basic care'.

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Basic care? More like a core sacred constitutional right, chud

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*Goddess-given right

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They’re calling it “reproductive care” now lmao

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The risks are immeasurable for cisgender women, now quadruple that for trans / non-binary / genderqueer / etc. patients.

Surely a doctor wouldn't be buying into this million gender bullshit.

Medical secretary

Yep, probably spends all day in DEI bullshit.

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>doctor

I bet most the people are PAs and nurses

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VERIFIED👏HEALTHCARE👏WORKER 👏

You don't need to know more, chud

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Yep. I'm actually a student nursecel (male).

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Those :marseytrain: documentaries are always interviewing low end shrinks, social workers, and medical support groups when they bring in ‘medical experts’.

You rarely ever see doctors who are gender free-for-all. Besides the few (almost always women) who love the attention they get on TikTok.

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It's because lesbians (female) and ftms have very high teen pregnancy rates for some reason

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“Lesbians” okay

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Kind of love that I used to work at an evil pharma company that has the same name 🥰

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>omgrsh there will be extreme violence.

You won't do shit

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I was promised visions of right wing death squads roaming the streets and ripping babes out of their mother's arms after Trump arrived and all we got were low gas prices

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I'm fricking pissed, there has been basically fricking nothing from all this

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Why would something effecting women result in violence? Moids are the ones with bloodlust.

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Given that most significant fetal abnormalities are not detected until the anatomy scan at 20 weeks

So they have anatomy to scan but they're still just a clump of cells

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Yes. Are you stupid or dumb?

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Both

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What are the tally marks for?

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Chuds slain or incels cucked

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These doctors that are complaining about banning abortion are the same one that charge thousands of dollars for minor medical treatments to poor families. The only thing I’ve gotten from the coronavirus pandemic is a newfound hatred for anyone in the medical field.

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They hide it through layers of abstraction too.... Blaming high costs on insurance when they only became a doctor for the pay

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Sorry sweaty the procedure only cost $150, but due to me having 10 secretaries and insurance having 9 layers of administrators your bill is gonna be around 10k. K? Thx!

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It's not banned though, are burgers really this stupid

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It's not banned though, are burgers really this stupid

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Every one in the feild wants tons of money. Providers want a ton of money. Admin and facilities want a ton of money. Insurance wants oodles of cash. In order to have cheaper Healthcare someone has to concede theor peice of the pie and at this point they all make out like bandits.

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So they're based? Makes it easier for us to get ahead of the poorcels stuck in a hole

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Republicans are absolute disgusting pieces of shit. Every last one of them. Every last one of them not renouncing this. Every last one of them who voted for this sham court. Frick every last one of you and I hope many ill fortunes fall upon you.

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Physicians are one of the few groups who could easily leave this country, they don’t because of the salaries…

Amazing how quickly people become libertarians when the bay is in front of them

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remember to only vote for allowing legal abortions when the same bill supports financial abortions.

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Nobody is talking about how this is going to absolutely destroy trans men, non-binary people, and other LGBTQIA+ patients who already struggle immensely to obtain reproductive healthcare.

Only thing mentioned that truly matters.

Remember to vote for legal right to abortion in the same bill that permits right to financial abortion. Not after. Not a different bill at the same time. Has to be the exact same bill about responsibility for the fetus and baby afterwards due to decisions made for the fetus.

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For me the elephant is ectopic pregnancies.

not even Paddy McPapist, slave to Rome :marseypope:, is against aborting ectopic pregnancies

jesus at least learn the basics of the other side's argument

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The other side are nazis, if you read nazi arguments you become a nazi.

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And yet aborting ectopic pregnancies is illegal :marseythonk:

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As an ER provider in New York I can tell you there are definitely women who think that way. I've known patients who've had 8-9 abortions and are coming to the ED for thinking they're pregnant and asking for another one. I ask them why they don't use birth control or condoms and they say that it just takes the fun of s*x away from them, or they just don't want too, or it's too hard.

I'm a staunch supporter of women's rights and the right to an abortion, but to say that there aren't women who think like that would be egregiously wrong. I would rather them have their right to abortion than have them raise kids in destitution and poor education.

:#marseythonk:

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I respect this person's opinion more than someone who pretends abortions aren't overwhelmingly elective procedures or says abortions are bad but you can have a little as a treat.

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It's easy for you to say that abortions are "overwhelmingly elective" when you're not the one who has to make that decision. And it's easy to say that abortions are "a treat" when you're not the one who has to live with the consequences. Until you've been in that position, you have no right to judge.

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You know who else liked to kill inconvenient people? People who REALLY hurt their feelings?

If you don't want a baby then give it up for adoption, or you suck as a human being generally

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Wasn't there some woman at a pro-abortion rally with a shirt saying she was proud she got 18 abortions or something like that? I can't find it because google is cucked

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ISNT HEALTH CARE EXPENSIVE THOUGH? ICH LOOKED IT UP AND ITS NOT VERY EXPENSIVE THEY SHOULD MAKE IT BE MORE MONEY SO PEOPLE DO IT LESS UNLESS OF COURSE THEY GOT R*PED/IT WILL BE DEADLY BUT HONESTLY JUNGE ICH DONT CARE BECAUSE ONLY TRANS LIVES MATTER.

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I support legal and government funded abortions but only when tied with mandatory sterilization afterwards

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He's right you know. Why would you want an r-slur who can't even figure out after s*x pills to be having multiple kids.

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