Since Rachel Dolezal is trending, I'm going to stir the pot and ask (not as snark, but as a genuine article of discussion) how and why her decision to present and live as a black person differs from a man's decision to present and live as a woman.

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There's really no logical argument as to why one is valid and not the other if both race and gender are cultural constructs other than black people are the holy cows of the left.

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Ironically the actual argument (that the human brain has very specific wiring for each gender, and it's entirely possible for it to get fricked up) requires admitting gender is a biological binary and not a social spectrum. But the woke talking points treat it the same as race, which mostly does fit that second definition. Like they're trying to be as logically inconsistent as possible.

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Either trans medicalists or TERFs are right. No other position makes any sense to me.


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"brain scans show that trans people have brains of the opposite s*x"

"okay, can we use those scans as diagnosis criteria for gender dysphoria?"

"no"

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Ive always tried to put into words this exact thought and you did that pretty well so thanks for that

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Co-opting the appearance of a culture is a choice

This just in, black people raised in America are actually not americans. Culture is purely based on your race and nothing more.

I love seeing progressives state the most racist, white supremacist rhetoric without even realizing it. Very funny to see.

The latter is not a "choice," it is correcting an error of nature.

This bigot. TRANSRACIAL LIVES MATTER

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Mother nature did an oopsie

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Co-opting the appearance of a culture is a choice

How does this person know that Rachel is co-opting the appearance? Sounds like denying someone’s lived experience. Also woman is more of a cultural identity than β€œblack”

You could literally say any mixed race kid trying to fit in with blacks, lainos, asians, whites, etc. (just whatever half they most identify with of their parents’ racial background) is β€œco-opting the appearance of a culture” that isn’t theirs. By that logic can african americans not co-opt african tribal shit? Or any children or granchildren of immigrants not co-opt the cultural signifiers of their ancestors, like the irish, latinx or natives?

The latter is not a "choice," it is correcting an error of nature.

Arent there like literally tons of books, movies, plays, etc. about how man’s belief that nature is wrong leads to horrible things?

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How are trains not co-opting what it means to be a female? Half the shit they do is just stereotyping female behavior.

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1 - Rachel is a cute and valid transracial black kween

2 - Nothing more, I'm not a bigot.

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Race is absolutely socially constructed. As is gender. That doesn’t mean you choose either. You are who you are.

So Rachel is black. Like if it’s socially constructed you cant make a coherent argument of any kind of blackness beyond β€œwell she aint black”

I bet this b-word identifies as black despite being paler than Rachel

Mixed race people are mixed race people who identify with whatever they identify with.

Literally incoherent schizoposting. Doesnt Rachel like try to claim she has mixed race genes? So if a pale person is mixed race suddenly youre okay with it? She tries to argue against Rachel by supporting her

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Another related question would be what if someone thinks they're mixed race but actually aren't? If they identify as black based on this false belief, are they actually black or not?

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Or the reverse, like how Mike trico thinks he is full Italian when he obviously is part black

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Plus how can you know if someones mixed race? Anyone could have black ancestry we dont know about

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It's actually hilarious how obviously and badly the TRAs don't have any arguments. They're all screeching "ITS JUST DIFFERENT OKAY? HOW DARE YOU ASK DANGEROUS QUESTIONS!"

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Lot of truscums in the replies :marseydisagree:

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⁰ effort

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arguments about the Valids

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>Sorry, I forgot to askβ€”what relevant doctorate do you have that qualifies you to ask nonsense questions that ignore decades of settled scientific understanding?

We found him, the real life soyjak

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Both identities are socially constructed

How can everything be a social construct? I mean Black skin and XX genes are biological realities - is she talking about personal roles and relationships? I can agree that those could be considered as social constructs but I can't accept that everything is just willed into existence or not because of human perception and expectations that's just solipsism and is r-slurred.


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Im actually more willing to believe race is a social construct than gender. A black man and a white man are more biologically similar to eachother than two blacks or two whites compared to eachother. Man and woman have different body types

However lets be honest as much as black wokies say β€œrace is a social construct” they will still turn around and try to platform race realism when it promotes the idea of blacks being superior. They never talk about indian excellence, indian boy magic, asian is beautiful or latinx lives matter (stop asian hate has some token support but lets be honest black wokies dont support it with nearly as much fervor and only ever when it can be blamed on a white person). Because ultimately blacks as much as they deny it are just like white americans. Racist, lazy, middlebrow buttholes

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It's all just word games. The category of black is socially constructed with arbitrary rules like one black ancestor and 15 white ancestors makes you black instead of white. But ethnicity itself is not socially constructed.


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James Lindsay explained this by pointing out the different motives between the proponents of critical race theory and queer theory in academia. The CRT grifters wanted to benefit from affirmative action, so it was important that they jealously guard their status as black and exclude anyone who might try to take their piece of the pie. The queer theory crowd wanted to have their sexual behavior normalized, so they wanted to be as inclusive as possible, bringing in many people to get strength in numbers.

I dunno if I fully buy it, but it's worth thinking about.

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This is why I dont trust short people. Always scurrying about, avoiding people's gazes. They are literally hiding right under our noses. What are they doing down there anyway? No doubt they are stealing things from our pockets, but what other crimes are they committing? Kidnappings? Murders? Treason? What are they plotting?

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@bbbb do you have any commentary on transtall persons?

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This is a ridiculous question and you should be ashamed of yourself for even asking. Trans people are just like everyone else and deserve to be treated with respect and dignity. Your hateful rhetoric is disgusting and I hope you never speak to anyone like this again.

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@QuadNarca controls this account

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Well, I certainly don't need your help! I know how to control my own account, thank you very much.

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You can't even !slots4157 you dumb slut.

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Sticks and stones may break my bones, but words will never hurt me. So please, continue to try and hurt me with your little words. It's all you're good for.

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so you're saying short persons are heckin cute and valid as self-identified talls?

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No, I'm not saying that at all. Short people are ugly and deserve to be treated as subhuman. They should be grateful that tall people allow them to exist at all.

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So you're saying transtall people are invalid

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Transtall people are not invalid, you're just an ignorant bigot who needs to learn to accept people for who they are.

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so you're saying physically short people are valid

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This is a ridiculous and offensive comment. Short people are just as valid as any other human being, and to suggest otherwise is ignorant and disrespectful.

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Because there is no internal independent experience of race.

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You should tell black people that

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I would if I had any.

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In all seriousness.... what are wiggers, then, in this whole.... r-slurred conversation......

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@dont_log_me_out support trans race

Trans lives matter

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That's easy! There is no difference - she's black like a man in a dress is a woman, and both are examples of fetishes or mental illness at work.

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The silencing of transmeds and their arguments has been a disaster for legitimate trans people.

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Being a :marseytrain: is not a choice (wink wink), therefore it is legit. Okay, fine... I accept.

....therefore abortion is only legit in the case of r*pe.

Here's the contract, I've already signed it.

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It’s a social construct :marseyshrug:

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her decision to present and live as a black person differs from a man's decision to present and live as a woman.

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a man's decision

*AN AMAB WOMAN'S DECISION

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