It actually sets a pretty scary legal precedent if he's found guilty. A tweet, or even a reply on reddit could potentially have grave consequences if someone decides it triggers their PTSD/ autism enough to prosecute.
"This doesn't even get in the door of the First Amendment," Citron told the Washington Post on Sunday. "It doesn't have expressive value. . . . It doesn't express someone's autonomy of views and opinions. It's not contributing to the marketplace of ideas."
Why did they ask a non-lawyer about legal matters?
Only if you know they have a medical condition, target them in particular before it, and attempt to trigger it in order to kill them. Its a lot more like rubbing peanuts on a guy with a severe peanut allergies food than it is pissing someone off on the internet.
I feel like ever since I got here and started seriousposting all over the place I've been seeing others do it more often. I think drama is changing. D:
Disclaimer: if /u/respaaaaaj is depressed and/or predisposed to suicidal tendencies, this was meant as a joke. Plz don't hold me legally culpable for his actions, legal system bb.
Wrote a post that upset someone. That person claimed the post somehow threatened them. Was arrested by University cops at my home and held in jail for 10 days even though I had paid bail. Was shown the reddit post but not told who I threatened or what the threats were. Trial was a few months later and I just had to pay my court costs, was told I threatened an old employer (I have also been employed by the University I graduated from, which is what this was all about.) Now I am banned from going on campus anywhere or speaking to anyone from the University.
It's funny you guys don't see the stories of people being arrested for Internet posts all the time. They don't even tell you who snitched.
Unless your knowingly sending this to someone you know has epilepsy in the hopes of causing them a fatal seizure and it can be proven that you hoped it killed him its not gonna happen.
This is /u/BOOBENKONOPBOOLIAR's wife. He is lying on the floor having a seizer. I probably should seek medical help for him, but my first priority is to chastise you.
The fact he was pming people saying "i just posted this at him, i hope he has a seizure and dies" and actually spent time researching what the best image to trigger a seizure would be from epilepsy forums and resources means he is a monumental cunt. I hope he gets the full 10 years.
"It doesn't have expressive value. . . . It doesn't express someone's autonomy of views and opinions. It's not contributing to the marketplace of ideas."
Amazing how the First Amendment suddenly has caveats when it's applied to speech they don't like.
That's weird, you read the article apparently but still make this statement. No, pm'ing someone an image your researched for its effectiveness in causing seizures is not an expression of free speech. Who is "they" anyway?
One of the messages read, "I hope this sends him into a seizure." Another read, "Spammed this at [Eichenwald] let's see if he dies."
and the fact that he edited the guy's wikipedia page to say that he died that day makes this attempted murder.
Nobody would think this was funny if the guy had used an actual flashing light to induce a seizure but it's a joke when he uses a gif to tun his display into this flashing light
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n/a SnapshillBot 2017-03-22
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n/a DeepDickedHillybilly 2017-03-22
This is the funniest thing I've ever read
n/a satanismyhomeboy 2017-03-22
I don't know
Here's the NBC article though
It actually sets a pretty scary legal precedent if he's found guilty. A tweet, or even a reply on reddit could potentially have grave consequences if someone decides it triggers their PTSD/ autism enough to prosecute.
n/a OccasionallyClueless 2017-03-22
Why did they ask a non-lawyer about legal matters?
n/a skivian 2017-03-22
Because every lawyer involved was too busy laughing at the idea to answer
n/a thajugganuat 2017-03-22
How is it a scary precedent? He knew that the guy was prone to seizures and hoped the gif would cause one.
n/a DeepDickedHillybilly 2017-03-22
Found the Jew
n/a SHILLBUCKS_DEPOSITED 2017-03-22
n/a DeepDickedHillybilly 2017-03-22
More like (((SHILLBUCKS)))
n/a jimmahdean 2017-03-22
Exactly, it would be similar to putting a strobe light in the guy's home knowing he was epileptic.
It would be a scary sentiment if it wasn't completely intentional.
n/a Hemic 2017-03-22
Triggering is slightly less medically harmful than attempting to induce a seizure in someone, no?
n/a Clark_Savage_Jr 2017-03-22
You could be literally shaking from either.
n/a respaaaaaj 2017-03-22
Only if you know they have a medical condition, target them in particular before it, and attempt to trigger it in order to kill them. Its a lot more like rubbing peanuts on a guy with a severe peanut allergies food than it is pissing someone off on the internet.
n/a respaaaaaj 2017-03-22
Fuck I just serious posted on /r/drama the shame will never die
n/a DannyLee90 2017-03-22
delet ur account
n/a TheFinalArgument1488 2017-03-22
did you just threaten his account with a deadly comment?
n/a DannyLee90 2017-03-22
(╯°□°)–︻╦╤─ – – –
n/a AntiLuke 2017-03-22
kys tho
n/a Sarge_Ward 2017-03-22
I feel like ever since I got here and started seriousposting all over the place I've been seeing others do it more often. I think drama is changing. D:
n/a ctrbeuk_exe 2017-03-22
I think it's just that you can shitlost everywhere else now.
n/a cleverseneca 2017-03-22
Us Uggos gotta stick together and keep on serious posting!
Noodles Delenda Est
n/a thirdegree 2017-03-22
Na, drama has always had seriousposts. It's just usually combined with calls for mayocide (NOW).
n/a ThisWebsiteIsJunk 2017-03-22
KYS, bub.
No coming back from this.
Disclaimer: if /u/respaaaaaj is depressed and/or predisposed to suicidal tendencies, this was meant as a joke. Plz don't hold me legally culpable for his actions, legal system bb.
n/a LadyVetinari 2017-03-22
Disclaimer unneccessary, any good lawyer can use the "keep yourself safe" defense for kys
n/a CirqueDuFuder 2017-03-22
Don't you dare change it from kissing you, sexy.
n/a respaaaaaj 2017-03-22
Thanks for wishing that I keep myself safe man.
n/a 6chan 2017-03-22
This is from the NBC article. The intent was definitely malicious.
n/a strathmeyer 2017-03-22
I've been arrested and held in jail for a Reddit post I'm not allowed to delete, so I'm getting a real kick outta these replies.
n/a ieatpussy69 2017-03-22
Don't pretend like that's not profoundly lame
n/a shitpost953 2017-03-22
story time plz.
n/a Imgur_Lurker 2017-03-22
He's /u/stonetear
http://dailycaller.com/2016/09/22/how-reddit-ruined-the-hillary-clinton-campaign/
n/a shitpost953 2017-03-22
No fucking way... His post history makes that seem plausible... but I am eminently ruseable... so I donno what to think now.
n/a Imgur_Lurker 2017-03-22
I'm kidding, it's possible he's british
http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/watch-moment-web-troll-who-11918656
n/a Wraith_GraveSpell 2017-03-22
"good for nothing, spice smoking, Toxteth monkey"
Well, I found out what tag /u/strathmeyer is getting.
n/a strathmeyer 2017-03-22
Wrote a post that upset someone. That person claimed the post somehow threatened them. Was arrested by University cops at my home and held in jail for 10 days even though I had paid bail. Was shown the reddit post but not told who I threatened or what the threats were. Trial was a few months later and I just had to pay my court costs, was told I threatened an old employer (I have also been employed by the University I graduated from, which is what this was all about.) Now I am banned from going on campus anywhere or speaking to anyone from the University.
It's funny you guys don't see the stories of people being arrested for Internet posts all the time. They don't even tell you who snitched.
n/a Ennui2778 2017-03-22
Jury trial or bench trial? What were the charges?
I have a feeling this is false, and not heterosexual.
n/a Titan_Transcendent 2017-03-22
You think someone would just make up a bisexual story?
n/a strathmeyer 2017-03-22
Making terrorist threats. Why would I have a jury trial? These aren't looking like non-idiotic questions.
n/a satanismyhomeboy 2017-03-22
Sounds interesting enough for its own post on /r/Drama
n/a ieatpussy69 2017-03-22
If you bought a strobe light at a party store and ran up in the epilepsy ward with that bitch you'd be charged with assault. How is this different?
n/a Assy-McGee 2017-03-22
If you're suggesting that my actions with intent to harm others is a bad thing then you're violating my right to free-speech you gomunist fagget
n/a OnlyRacistOnReddit 2017-03-22
Because that's the same as sending a gif?
n/a ieatpussy69 2017-03-22
Yes.
n/a thefran 2017-03-22
Yes, obviously.
n/a OnlyRacistOnReddit 2017-03-22
More like he was hoping to, but I get what you're saying. It's still a disturbing precedent to set.
n/a thefran 2017-03-22
it's actually a really good preference
n/a LovelyLeahMarried 2017-03-22
If you send it with the intent to cause a seizure, yes.
Of course, proving that intent can be difficult.
n/a ThisWebsiteIsJunk 2017-03-22
No you wouldn't, you just have to yell 'bro! It's a social experiment!' Then the police let you go home so that you can post the video on YouTube.
n/a Hellkyte 2017-03-22
Pretty sure intent is actually important in this case and that dude was super clear about his intent.
Also let's be honest he's some NEET so really the world will be better off.
n/a satanismyhomeboy 2017-03-22
He's a Marine veteran who served in Iraq and Afghanistan, apparently
n/a none_to_remain 2017-03-22
One of the more dangerous forms of NEET
n/a none_to_remain 2017-03-22
One of the more dangerous forms of NEET
n/a CucksLoveTrump 2017-03-22
between 2-20 years in the state of texas unless his felony 2 aggr assault w/ deadly wapon gets pled down
n/a 90231232453151353311 2017-03-22
inb4 the fbi arrests me
n/a respaaaaaj 2017-03-22
Unless your knowingly sending this to someone you know has epilepsy in the hopes of causing them a fatal seizure and it can be proven that you hoped it killed him its not gonna happen.
n/a 90231232453151353311 2017-03-22
what if i posted it in /r/Epilepsy
n/a respaaaaaj 2017-03-22
Bit more likely.
n/a quackerzzzz 2017-03-22
/r/jesuschristreddit
n/a Create_Controversy 2017-03-22
fuck off you dumb cunt.
n/a cggreene2 2017-03-22
/r/jesuschristreddit
n/a freet0 2017-03-22
I bet you wouldn't be the first
n/a Tehpolecat 2017-03-22
he's still in possession of a deadly weapon
n/a PhysicsIsMyMistress 2017-03-22
We need gif control.
n/a Works_of_memercy 2017-03-22
But seriously, isn't there some kind of software that people with epilepsy can use to protect themselves?
n/a ThisWebsiteIsJunk 2017-03-22
Yeah, it's called a functional brain.
n/a telandrias 2017-03-22
Not going to lie, former .gif control voter here. But seriously we can't let this guy get ahold of the epilepsy codes.
n/a CirqueDuFuder 2017-03-22
Yes, it is called Windows and the shut down button.
n/a fourcrew 2017-03-22
Called the nsa, the dsa, the nra, and my high school gpa.
n/a OnlyRacistOnReddit 2017-03-22
What about the PTA?
n/a deadbroadcast 2017-03-22
already here
n/a BooBenKonopBooLiar 2017-03-22
This is /u/BOOBENKONOPBOOLIAR's wife. He is lying on the floor having a seizer. I probably should seek medical help for him, but my first priority is to chastise you.
n/a AHackFraud 2017-03-22
Wait a second you're not /u/prince_kropotkin
GTFO REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
n/a Tiammatt 2017-03-22
Wait till they see this meme I've been working on. Don't go to Philadelphia tomorrow, you guys are the good ones.
n/a fourcrew 2017-03-22
>that glorious feel when you terrorize a large crowd with your memes
n/a TheFinalArgument1488 2017-03-22
we need to change the kekstitution to ban all assault memes
n/a Tiammatt 2017-03-22
Welp.
I used an alt and posted this. I thought I would take down the city of brotherly love, instead no one even commented on it.
I thought it would tear our stupid system asunder. Back to drawing board.
n/a celocanth13 2017-03-22
Good ones never go to Philly anyway
n/a Acrylic56 2017-03-22
Well, l could see tumblr abusing this precedent.
n/a glmox 2017-03-22
at least they got this part right
n/a kippot 2017-03-22
there are no winners in this one, that much is clear
n/a neutralvoter 2017-03-22
the laywer dropped a fat bill going to law school dont judge him for making a shit ton of it back in a single case
n/a Raxkor 2017-03-22
The fact he was pming people saying "i just posted this at him, i hope he has a seizure and dies" and actually spent time researching what the best image to trigger a seizure would be from epilepsy forums and resources means he is a monumental cunt. I hope he gets the full 10 years.
n/a MegaSeedsInYourBum 2017-03-22
REEEEE Free speech REEEEE
n/a OnlyRacistOnReddit 2017-03-22
Amazing how the First Amendment suddenly has caveats when it's applied to speech they don't like.
n/a Ultrashitpost 2017-03-22
This lawyer obviously is unaware of the value of memes
n/a Nomadlads 2017-03-22
Since the Pepe crashed the value has been pretty low. The market is finally starting to look up though.
n/a ThisWebsiteIsJunk 2017-03-22
/r/memeeconomy
n/a anubgek 2017-03-22
That's weird, you read the article apparently but still make this statement. No, pm'ing someone an image your researched for its effectiveness in causing seizures is not an expression of free speech. Who is "they" anyway?
n/a celocanth13 2017-03-22
(((liberals)))
n/a Ultrashitpost 2017-03-22
MEMES THAT KILL
n/a old_grumpy_grandpa 2017-03-22
SUCH A LUST FOR SHITPOSTING, WHOOOOOOOOOO
n/a ThisWebsiteIsJunk 2017-03-22
🎼MEMES KILLED THE VANITY FAIR CONTRIBUTING EDITOR 🎶🎵
n/a MyrLeaf 2017-03-22
"You're going to extract him ? But he has S-rank autism !"
n/a windowsphoneshill 2017-03-22
War has changed
n/a bozo942 2017-03-22
Pretty sure intent is actually important in this one, that much is clear.
n/a Sat799 2017-03-22
This is the funniest thing I've been working on.
n/a point_shaver 2017-03-22
Sex : male
Race : white
That's sufficient for me to convict.
n/a drvoke 2017-03-22
SENTENCE: EXECUTION
METHOD: WHITE GENOCIDE
n/a 6chan 2017-03-22
and the fact that he edited the guy's wikipedia page to say that he died that day makes this attempted murder.
Nobody would think this was funny if the guy had used an actual flashing light to induce a seizure but it's a joke when he uses a gif to tun his display into this flashing light
n/a girigiri 2017-03-22
If this is true, then OP is a terrorist.
OP promise you only use your gifs for good.
n/a MyrLeaf 2017-03-22
The Geneva Convention was made for this. Clearely this gif is a wmd.
n/a Deity_Of_Darkness 2017-03-22
I could see this new precedent being used to ban places like r/drama and anything the "gender doesn't exist" crowd doesn't like.
n/a shadowbanned2 2017-03-22
Wasn't Eich the pedo that got caught buying $1000s worth of kiddie porn?
n/a holditsteady 2017-03-22
He paid someone who was in kiddie porn to be his source
n/a Not_A_PedophiIe 2017-03-22
Can anyone tell me how they pronounced gif during the trial? I feel like this could set a precedent.
n/a newsdr 2017-03-22
seizures suck dick. You don't quite understand how bad it is until you have them. And mine aren't triggered by flashing lights so save your PMs
n/a jdkeith 2017-03-22
Spreading communism and lies can be deadly weapons, but that Kike didn't see a problem with that.