SRS is now also inciting violence. Will they finally be benned or will the fash be bashed?

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These are the same people who are so angry about altrighters threatening violence.

It was also found that the stupider animals, such as the sheep, hens, and ducks, were unable to learn the Seven Commandments by heart. After much thought Snowball declared that the Seven Commandments could in effect be reduced to a single maxim, namely: "Four legs good, two legs bad." This, he said, contained the essential principle of Animalism. Whoever had thoroughly grasped it would be safe from human influences. The birds at first objected, since it seemed to them that they also had two legs, but Snowball proved to them that this was not so.

"A bird's wing, comrades," he said, "is an organ of propulsion and not of manipulation. It should therefore be regarded as a leg. The distinguishing mark of man is the hand, the instrument with which he does all his mischief."

The birds did not understand Snowball's long words, but they accepted his explanation, and all the humbler animals set to work to learn the new maxim by heart. FOUR LEGS GOOD, TWO LEGS BAD was inscribed on the end wall of the barn, above the Seven Commandments and in bigger letters When they had once got it by heart, the sheep developed a great liking for this maxim, and often as they lay in the field they would all start bleating "Four legs good, two legs bad! Four legs good, two legs bad!" and keep it up for hours on end, never growing tired of it.

Animal farm is (((south park neutrality))) propaganda by a priviledge white boi.

al farm is (((south park neutrality))) propaganda by a priviledge white boi.

George Orwell traveled to Spain to fight fascism in their civil war.

He was a Ukranian farmer apologist.

cucklak?

Brogeoisie.

No wrong tactics, only wrong targets

But their violence is noble and fashionable! When they mutter about bashing the fash or punching nazis or whatever nonsense becomes their next rallying call to violence, they are just being like Rosa Parks, but mostly white and on the internet, and not really oppressed.

altrighters threatening violence. talking about self defence.

I have no problem with calling it self-defense when it's against those "antifas" who go too far and think anyone who supports right-of-center candidates is an acceptable target of violence, but when the right starts talking about throwing Marxists out of helicopters, they lose the right to claim the moral high ground as far as I'm concerned.

If they had the high ground they wouldn't need helicopters.

and as such we will not be removing it.

ETA: Temporarily removed until we figure out wtf is actually going on.

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Ukrainians

Daily reminder that true communism has never been tried before

until we figure out wtf is actually going on.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VG94GJT8okE

DOG-WHISTLE!

My oppression rod is so hard right now.

Remember when the "Most Feminist" Swedish Government wore the veil when visiting Iran? This isn't as satisfying as that, but it'll do.

OMG they're serious! But I thought we were a protected subreddit!

SRS is inciting violence against their own benises.

FYI - Fascist is the new code word for White People.

Whites aren't people.

Theý're Gods.

ew

My ancestors are smiling at me, can you say the same?

Exile

Imperial, actually.

Oh shit I got the game confused

Happens. Hilarious someone downvoted me though lmao

my ancestors we poorly educated racists, i'm not sure they'd be all that jazzed about me

I dont have a cool meme to reply to this

here's a pupper

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nice dog

So this is where the "found Pablo" comment came from?

oh shit busted

But what do you think of my hat?

i think it's great, man

Thanks, I feel nice.

*doggorino

That pup has a nice hat

It's wear a hat day today!

I don't have a hat so I'll admire your hat.

You've always displayed a lot of signs of inbreeding so I can see that being true.

thx 4 recognizing the hustle fam

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igaz

sad

most people's were, actually

nah. I'm 1/64th Cherokee so my ancestors were wise and noble.

According to my aunt I'm 1/128 Choctaw. I'm really lazy so I'm not going to verify anything and just roll with it.

It's ok, the coffee colored, pansexual, matriarchal muslim inhabitants of the west 100 years from now will still think of you as a poorly educated racist anyhow.

...yeah, that was kinda my point

Idiots often sit and smile in complacency.

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FYI - Fascist is the new code word synonym for White "People."

Lol, is this the sub where the bitchy crybabies from the_donald come to cry on each others shoulders?

Nope. This is a sub that points out retardation on reddit and the internet in general. I'm sorry that you've been featured.

But don't worry, many retards have gone on to live fruitful and productive lives. My first wife was a tard and now she's a pilot!

As an RPGer, vague Star Trek fan and table top gamer, /u/ffkssk is something of a legend among my friends, he really just seems like a regular dude who in some cases got dealt a great hand in life and in some cases got a shitty hand too, like most people. There's a fair amount of consideration put in to all his work: if something is wrong he's the first to admit it, his interactions with people on reddit are awesome and doesn't seem stuck up his own butt. If there was a redditeur to win the award for most down to earth and reasonable human being, he would certainly be a contender (the prize would be 5 gold and a party).

I'm probably never going to get to buy the guy a (craft) beer but I sure would like to! But as this is reddit I'll give this a go:

Hey /u/ffkssk , what's the internet equivalent of buying you a beer?

Don't be a dick, and play more games!

Lol, you butthurt the_donald faggots crack me up sometimes.

lmao, classic /u/ffkssk. keep up the good work my good sir.

Where do you find stale copypasta these days? I'm new here.

I knew you probably had an alt in there. Would it bother you to know that I manage a couple dozen people, and a few billion in infrastructure? For the federal government? That many of you who hate what I stand for are funding my happiness and well paying job with your tax dollars? When I stop being called a mangina, a white knight, a c word, or a pussy, when redditors who use these words or those who oppose us grow up, I'll stop using it. If someone told your friend to shut the fuck up, wouldn't you stick up for them and say something? Is hearing the word dick really offensive to the fee fees when it's perfectly normal to see the c word and women treated like garbage on reddit? This place is a bizarro world sometimes. Up is down, racism about whites is the biggest problem, and white college aged men are the most oppressed class. Racism is the scientific "race realism". I don't hide my dislike for MRAs, nor do I have to coddle them in the subreddit I'm top mod in.

Stop acting like such a cunt.

I am very secure about my copypasta. You have obviously never tasted copypasta if you think mine look bad, and that is very sad for you. You should get copypasta right away so you will have some knowledge of copypasta and not sound like a fool when you speak. Again, I would ask you to prove your own copypasta making skills if you think you are capable of judging others so harshly. But that would require something well beyond your capabilities. You really should try copypasta, it is quite delicious and you won't sound so stupid when you comment.

You didn't make shit, you just copy things because you have no imagination of your own. sad.

faggots

wow! slurs! can't use real words to express yourself because you'e so retarded

I might be retarded but at least I'm not a Trumpette faggot.

Did you just assume my gender?!

I hope your experience on this sub will teach you how to deliver a proper burn. That was just sad and made you look like the insecure one.

I might be retarded but at least I'm not a Trumpette faggot.

Which begs the question: If you're not a Trumpette faggot exactly what kind of faggot are you, faggot?

I was really hyped to meat you after hearing about what a great guy you are, but this aura of hatefulness you are exuding is really turning me off.

hyped to meat you

But presumptuous aren't we?

Grow a thicker skin, m8.

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Yes. Please take a number.

Welcome to /r/Drama. There's coffee and treats on the table to your right. I recommend you immediately blow something out of proportion so you fit right in. And remember: Mayocide now!

Only kind of. It's also about killing all gamers

Starting with mobile app gamers first plz

WOW NEET ALERT TENDIES WILL BE SPILLED

Are you under the impression that people from T_D have to leave T_D to circlejerk and shout memes.

Yes r/the_Donald only for level headed balance discussion of the president's domestic policy.

Get with the times

That weird moment when you think that everyone that laughs at SRS must be a conversative/Trump supporter.

I wasn't talking about SRS, I was talking about you being a whiny cunt.

what are you even saying

bitches be trippin

That's ableist against clumsy womyyn.

my b

Few screws loose? You gotta work that troll game harder. Especially when wearing the tough guy knuckles.

Nibba we south park neutral here.

Please respect our safe space.

/u/misiame

now you're bitching about freeze peech lol

cry harder

I'm laughing bitch, you're the one doing the crying

CRY HARDER

You mean like this?

Crying and scared? Good. Stay scared. No one tramples on minorities and expects to never go unchallenged. The lot of you are cowards. One punch and you shrink back into your snake pits.

Cry harder. I love it.

Oh I ain't crying. I'm laughing at the whinging going on by y'all. Endless fun for me as I watch you cry about the "dirty leftists ruining everything". Shows nothing more that you are immature little shits that have a victim complex. Join the real world shitlords

Shut the fuck up you stupid cunt. DIAF.

shitlords

Oh no, is retarded

immature little shits

Is this the same person complaining about not being able to say bash the fash on a internet website?

god dammit, self-awareness dude

Want to touch our genitals together?

Naw man. y'all might get scared by my massive girlcock and ballz. I know some are into "traps" but as soon as you in one its all "EW". So I stay away from creeps like you and stick with SJWs who have more kink and sexual dynamo in their pinkies than everyone on this sub.

So many words to say "I'm under 21".

So I stay away from creeps like you and stick with SJWs who have more kink and sexual dynamo in their pinkies than everyone on this sub.

Oh, you dont want to make a kink competition on this sub buddy.

Either you are trying to hard at trolling or you are walking joke.

it's called LARPing, shitlord.

Woah dude, that's pretty gay.

sexual dynamo

Thanks for the band name.

stick with SJWs who have more kink and sexual dynamo in their pinkies than everyone on this sub.

cuckolding makes for a 'sexual dynamo'?
Have a candy kiddo. Run along now.

Why wouldn't it?

if you think being a cuck is erotic you're beyond repair. i guess the good thing is that you won't reproduce.

I don't, but I don't have a cuckold fetish. I assume people who got one do find it erotic.

the 'wife' role, maybe.
the 'bull' can have fun ...if he manages to ignore the pathetic lump of hipster soy in the corner of the room that keeps offering him gluten free brownie bites and a fluff job.

I don't think you know what sexual dynamo means actually.

oh okay son, i'll put on a pony mask n just you tell me how much mandingo bull badder to huff outta my wifey's schnapper ta achieve a level of dynamosexual.

You still don't seem to know what sexual dynamo means.

I also have no idea what mandingos got anything to do with this discussion, except making you sound extremely racist.

naw, i'm 1/16th colored. i can say mandingo twice a fuckin month.

Alright, still have no idea what it got to do with sexual dynamo and people into cuckolding.

are you going to keep telling me i don't understand a thing that you do understand, or are you going to share your thoughts on whats in the hells i'm missing on dynamo sexing?

please tell me how my thoughts on SRS should include dynamic sex normative views? or don't. prolly don't.

You're saying a person with a cuckold fetish doesn't have sexual dynamo.

I'm asking why. Because as far as I see it, a cuckold fetish says nothing about whether you're good or bad in the bed.

In my personal opinion, I would say it points towards the person being somewhat good in bed, but that's just because I prefer partners with an open mind when it comes to sex.

I know my personal anecdotes means squat shit, I don't generalise.

that is where we differ.

>girl

>cock

Pick one and only one.

SJWs who have more kink and sexual dynamo

Sorry to hear you're alone.

:(

Much projection

lmao. cry more

https://www.reddit.com/r/Anarchism/comments/621gs3/on_bash_the_fash_and_threats_from_reddit_admins/dfj1txo/

This comment aptly explains the difference between advocating violence against minorities and violence against fascists. Fascists advocate violence because of illogical, irrational hate that has no evidence of existing (in fact all evidence showing the inverse of what they say) against minority groups they deem inferior. They want to kill me, they want to kill my friends, and they want to kill you. If you don't drink their koolaid on minorities you are a race traitor and need to be removed.

Meanwhile, advocating violence against fascism is always done in self-defense. Minorities and those that support their existence have targets on their backs by these people and they will do anything to fuck us up and kill us. Saying "fuck it we are fighting back" and "bash the fash" comes from a collective sense of defending ourselves and the minorities that are targetted by fascists and their violence.

Liberal reddit will never understand. They will ride the fucking fence, justifying non-violence to the point of non-action. Which only gets minorities killed by fascists who have no one but themselves to defend them.

There is a reason there is a rich antifascist movement in Germany. They saw first hand what fascists did to minorities and their allies. Camps, furnaces, and death showers. These buildings still exist.

We don't have that sort of history in America. We always remained right-wing. Poor working people are oppressed and minority groups even moreso. Media has been build to disinfo propagandize and radicalize people to extreme far-right populism. Trump exists for a reason, its because the chickens are coming home to roost. And people can't see it as fascism, as it is wrapped within an american flag.

We need to defend minorities, defend allies, and beat back fascists. It should never be acceptable to be a fascist. It is literal advocacy for death of certain groups. forced emigration is bullshit and won't happen, people aren't gonna move from the home they always knew. The first policy of hitler was forced emigration and when the jews didn't leave it was to the showers next. This is their ideology. This is something to fight against.

Sitting on the concentration camp fence only means more people get put in. You either defend the rights of minorities to exist and be free from violence and oppression, or you indirectly collaborate with the people who want to end their existence.

These may or may not be the rants of a mentally sound person. But it's not at all the rant of someone "laughing".

Endless fun for me as I watch you cry about the "dirty leftists ruining everything".

Wait wait wait... Who's ruining what now? Isn't it your lot that just got told to BTFO?

also why do you guys say yall so much when you start arguing

One punch and you shrink back into your snake pits.

You didn't punch, you just whined on the internet. You think a nazi on meth is going to be intimidated by someone who can't even say the word "stupid" without going into a catatonic shock?

your buddy boy richard spencer hasn't popped out of his hole since he got his face mashed. I'm pretty confident you internet nazis would piss your pants before the fight even starts.

Get fucked losers. Whine longer.

He has, actually. You gave him free publicity, which he exploited. It might've gone differently if the attacker didn't land a weak sucker punch before cowering back to his pals. Then again, we can't expect that from antifa's.

PS: He i aint white, and he aint my buddy.

That'd be worse for him if it was a weak punch, cause he cried like a bitch about it afterwards.

I don't blame him, that was a heckin big booboo

He has a good point about how you can't even hear/read the word "stupid" without getting offended. How do you think you're going to punch anyone when you have such a fragile disposition?

Naw I ain't offended. None of you losers can get passed me. Seen so much of your shit that I'm a fucking massive wall, bigger than trumps, to your shit. I just laugh, its great. Just bounces right off. Just watching you squirm from up on the wall.

Naw but most of the freeze peach whiners are almost always nazi and fash trash that hide behind rules to support forums whining about minorities existing and trading tips on how to rape women (so much for rapefugees).

...you guys are the ones whining about free speech.

Naw man we are just pointing out hypocrisy in admins. Allow rape forums and genocide advocacy. But if they catch one whiff of "bash the fash" and the sirens are on.

SO MUCH FOR THEM BEING FREE SPEECH WARRIORS AMIRITE?!

They banned /r/altright. Now they're going to ban the other group of shitstains.

You cheered when it was the "other" political group, now you're sad. Meanwhile, normal people with normal, non-extremist political views are laughing at you and freak out, melodramatic, can't-possibly-be-a-real-adult-saying-this posts.

Naw man, I ain't sad. R/@ is a shithole but prolly for reasons y'all would love if it wasn't for the "anarchy" scare words and shit. I always expected it to get removed. Upset is non-existent. I had no investment in its longevity. Move on to other work. But now its just taking my time pointing out hypocrisy in the admins and having fun here.

What is "R/@"?

ok

SO MUCH FOR THEM BEING FREE SPEECH WARRIORS AMIRITE?!

shouldn't you be happy about that?

Yeah, you don't sound at all offended. You're mad that you can't say "Bash the fash" and think it's a harbinger for genocide, that's all.

You to have a lot of negative energy. Have you tried finding a healthy outlet for it?

Who?

You think a nazi on meth/bathsalts

Man I'm shook

That Guy may be super skinny but meth heads get retard strength and would probably eat your face.

yesss, reminder not to downvote the cows, folks

I wish I was as badass as you.

No one tramples on minorities and expects to never go unchallenged.

Except for, you know, the white man

No one tramples on minorities and expects to never go unchallenged.

Except for, you know, the white man

Tbh you're not scaring anyone. If you tried this dumb white people shit at any 2-1-1 meeting you'd get a 2x4 shoved through your stomach smh 🤦‍♂️

Not in the loop. What's a 2-1-1 meeting?

You're speaking to a minority right now. God, I hate white girls.

How many Internet commenter have you punched in service of your great reddit board?

Nigga, is you retarded?

lol at the idea of people being scared of srs users

youre never going to do anything anyway, its all just angry people venting like all the dumb shit you guys complain about usually

No one tramples on minorities and expects to never go unchallenged.

I'm pretty sure you double-negatived this sentence into meaning the exact opposite of the thing you meant it to mean.

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I think you're my favorite commie on this website <3

They are pretty much the same at this point.

I think you're the only commie who's bearable and shouldn't be thrown of helicopters <3

aw you didn't even use the good one :(

No u

I don't think anyone reading this could possibly think he's the one crying.

UR FREEZE PEACH!

Lol freeze peach you little worthless faggot.

What is up about you and the word faggot my dude

My hidden fantasy is two mulatto thinks sodomizing each other and it seeps into my daily life and reddit posting constantly.

mulatto

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Can it be 1 black and 1 white guy or must the races be evenly distributed

your moms a faggot

bad dreams coming your way.

stop wishing bad dreams on people, it actually worked on me last night and as such I h8 u into eternity

I'm sneding u some good dreams ok pls no hate

Thanks, I need it after you recked my sleep yesterday.

Make sure to go through and report the posts inciting violence to increase the chance of them getting banned. This is one of those wonderful times where maximizing drama and doing the right thing align.

The perfect fucking storm.

Don't all reports go to the mods first?

And last. Reports never reach the admins unless someone manually messages them.

But it's legit hilarious when people think they're alerting the admins directly with the report button, so sshhh!

I do hope they'll be benned

This comment aptly explains the difference between advocating violence against minorities and violence against fascists. Fascists advocate violence because of illogical, irrational hate that has no evidence

/u/Misiame if you really, really, seriously, no-fooling, don't understand the problem here, I'd like to try to explain. The problem is that you're not actually attacking fascists. What you're actually doing is labeling innocent people as fascists and then excusing violence against them.

It's like if there's a stadium filled with people. Maybe 100 people there are actually fascists. Maybe you can identify 20 or 30 of them if they open their mouths. Unfortunately, your false-positive rate means that you also label another 300 or 400 people as fascists, and you advocate violence against all of them.

The problem is, you are creating a culture that will be used to oppress random innocent people. Step 1: accuse someone of wrong-think. Step 2: the mob attacks them. That will, absolutely, 100% certain, be used by mean people to bully innocent people who are not now, nor have they ever actually been fascist.

While this is true, it is also the case that fascists should be allowed to propagandize for fascism and people who violently prevent them from doing so should be arrested and tried as criminals.

There's a line on the free speech protection that fascists should be afforded though. When you start actually trying to incite violence (and could potentially do it) you start crossing said line.

The irony here is that's pretty much what a lot of the antifas are doing.

Inciting violence is already illegal, so I don't think that's a really controversial opinion. But purely political speech should never be suppressed, it's just too likely to be abused.

I'm on the fence when it comes to hate speech laws but how the hell do you argue against someone who's going round calling people niggers?

If he follows someone around doing it, then it's harassment which is already illegal. If he is threatening them, then it's already illegal. If he is hanging out on somebody else's property that doesn't want him there, then it's already illegal. If you want to lock somebody up who is obeying all laws because of what he is saying, then it reflects your character as much as theirs.

Just realised my original comment was meant to be a response to one of your other comments downthread - I must've confused them. My point wasn't that peopele should be locked up, it was that some people simply can't be reasoned with.

You can't reason with the true nutjobs. That is true. But that doesn't mean they don't have a right to their opinion. You reason with the people they are trying to convince. Throwing someone in jail for being hateful is not a solution in a free country.

Highly depends on where you were born I would imagine. Europeans seems to be in favor of free speech restrictions a lot ofter than Americans.

It's no surprise really. Completely different cultures around free speech

Yeah I agree. In America free speech is seen as a basic human right, hence it being Amendment 1 of the Bill of Rights. In Europe it is seen as a privilege that you must use responsibly and can be regulated. Personally, allowing the government to decide what is and isn't ok to advocate creeps me the fuck out, but then again, as you say, if I grew up in Europe I would have been taught differently.

Fascism is a legitimate political philosophy that is at least no worse than communism. Liberalism is more legitimate than either of them, except for that it inevitable leads to one of them.

There's a line on the free speech protection that fascists should be afforded though. When you start actually trying to incite violence (and could potentially do it) you start crossing said line.

There is. It's the Supreme Court's holding in Brandenburg v. Ohio, 395 U.S. 444 (1969).

Dont know fam

Why do you think so? dont you think some hate speech laws are ok?

No.

If you have to shut somebody up to win an argument, you might not have a good argument.

What if the "argument" is "to back to Africa, nigger" to some black kid? You really think it's pragmatic and reasonable for that speech to be protected?

Absolutely.

People's rights are not always pragmatic. It's more important than that. Anyway, to answer your question, in America your example would already be covered by the fighting words exception to the first amendment, so there is no need for additional laws. Shouting nigger at a black man would not be protected, saying "go back to Africa nigger" as in your example, would be protected in a public speech if not directed at an individual specifically to draw a violent reaction. People have the right to advocate any ridiculous or hateful political theories they want publicly, but there is a narrow exception for your specific example, and it doesn't require a law specifically based on race

Right, but just because the court happens to have made such a decision doesn't mean the actual line of which speech should be protected and which shouldn't is clear.

I think a man shouting "All the niggers should go back to Africa" should not be protected if only because of the public use of the slur. The one thing I disagree with the court on wholeheartedly is that the definition of obscenity is only to do with prurient/sexual things, which I think is absurd- for example, I think mutilated aborted fetuses should not be able to be shown publicly as I don't consider it substantial political speech.

Anyway, my point is that it's a bit fallacious to appeal to the philosophical justification of people's rights but then cite a Supreme Court decision, since the latter pretty much confirms that there's no obvious philosophical answer to which speech should be protected and which speech the government can ban. I don't mind slurs and epithets, as well as gruesome pictures, just like porn, being banned publicly, and I think that's the most pragmatic and beneficial situation for society, and I don't think the philosophical defense of those behaviors is nearly strong enough.

I think a man shouting "All the niggers should go back to Africa" should not be protected if only because of the public use of the slur.

Preventing a majority from imposing a ban on other opinions in public speech was the exact intent of the 1st amendment.

I think mutilated aborted fetuses should not be able to be shown publicly as I don't consider it substantial political speech.

Why? Because it upsets you? That's supposed to be the point. You don't have a right to not see things that upset you. (fwiw I am pro-choice)

I think a man shouting "All the niggers should go back to Africa" should not be protected if only because of the public use of the slur.

You think saying a bad word should lead to criminal charges? Yikes. That is exactly what scares people who push back on this nonsense.

Anyway, my point is that it's a bit fallacious to appeal to the philosophical justification of people's rights but then cite a Supreme Court decision, since the latter pretty much confirms that there's no obvious philosophical answer to which speech should be protected and which speech the government can ban.

"Go back to Africa nigger" is advocating a political opinion, no matter how stupid. People should always be allowed to voice their opinion, it's the point of a democracy.

I think a man shouting "All the niggers should go back to Africa" should not be protected if only because of the public use of the slur.

Preventing a majority from imposing a ban on other opinions in public speech was the exact intent of the 1st amendment. Throwing a person in to prison for using a bad word is horrifying.

I think mutilated aborted fetuses should not be able to be shown publicly as I don't consider it substantial political speech.

Why? Because it upsets you? That's supposed to be the point. You don't have a right to not see things that upset you, especially when it comes to people expressing political opinions that effect public policy.

Anyway, my point is that it's a bit fallacious to appeal to the philosophical justification of people's rights but then cite a Supreme Court decision, since the latter pretty much confirms that there's no obvious philosophical answer to which speech should be protected and which speech the government can ban.

"Go back to Africa nigger" is advocating a political opinion, no matter how stupid. People should always be allowed to voice their opinion, it's the point of a democracy.

Preventing a majority from imposing a ban on other opinions in public speech was the exact intent of the 1st amendment. Throwing a person in to prison for using a bad word is horrifying.

We throw people in jail for using threatening language, why should we not do so with some other such language? There's no obvious philosophical answer there. I don't see how society benefits from somebody hurling slurs at somebody else. There is no political speech involved there.

Why? Because it upsets you? That's supposed to be the point. You don't have a right to not see things that upset you, especially when it comes to people expressing political opinions that effect public policy.

So do you think it should be legal to display porn publicly? Don't just stand behind the court's definition of obscenity. If you're going to argue from this philosophically, defend porn being displayed publicly. And I don't mean tits, I meant full on, hardcore porn.

It doesn't matter to me if the point of aborted fetuses is to "upset me", that's not a defense and it doesn't make it political speech; it is intended to shock and traumatize people. Children should not have to see that. Think of the children! (but unironically)

"Go back to Africa nigger" is advocating a political opinion, no matter how stupid. People should always be allowed to voice their opinion, it's the point of a democracy.

That's where we disagree. The court differentiates between political speech and non-political speech, and even if they were to defend the above as political speech, just like aborted fetuses, I'd disagree, and there is no philosophical correct answer there, so we have to defer to pragmatism, and for me it's much sensible to ban such speech publicly. Now, on the other hand, if a person publicly made the argument that all blacks should go back to Africa, that would be a different story, because it's making an argument, not shouting an epithet intended to scare/intimidate people.

The law and the philosophy are intertwined. We are talking about hate speech laws after all. Don't try and change the argument.

I didn't try to change the argument, I suggested that after your philosophical argument has reached its limitations, as yours has, we have to revert to pragmatism.

I don't want to write an essay here, the easiest way to explain is to read this. I don't think I could write it more clearly than John Stuart Mill anyway. You might particularly enjoy this quote:

"Liberty consists in the freedom to do everything which injures no one else; hence the exercise of the natural rights of each man has no limits except those which assure to the other members of the society the enjoyment of the same rights. These limits can only be determined by law."

Threatening a person impacts the right of somebody to personal safety. Saying "nigger" in a racist argument doesn't rise to that, even though it causes offense.

I don't agree with him.

That's perfectly fine, everyone is entitled to their opinion. I was trying to show the root of the philosophy that you were asking about. Anyway, nice talking to you.

I understand the argument and it's a very valid one, in fact I waver between the two opinions myself. It's not like I think you're an idiot for believing what you do by any means. We just disagree. It's an interesting discussion.

Hate speech laws did not defeat Hitler or the KKK. But they do aid the rise of hate groups, such as Islam.

Did pre-1933 Germany even have laws against hate speech?

Not a single one.

A lot of white people have it coming, however and they need to be honest with themselves.

A lot of jews have it coming, however and they need to be honest with themselves.

A lot of women have it coming, however and they need to be honest with themselves.

Can you hear yourself you race baiting sack of shit?

Reported for antisemitism.

Reported for bigotry

Reported for white people nonsense

whine harder. I love it

which definition of "whine" are you using? Because I don't see how anything in my post qualifies. Perhaps you just realized that you don't have an intelligent response, but wanted to say something anyway?

Some of the people you label as fascists, are not fascists. That's the problem.

The one that describes your pansy SJW "creating a culture" ranting

In this context, culture means "the set of shared attitudes, values, goals, and practices that characterizes an institution or organization"

They are creating a culture that will be used to bully people.

Do you need your safe space, snowflake?

Wrong end of the stick there. Nothing I've said even remotely suggests support for the concept of "safe spaces."

Stop creating a culture of oppression!

I don't like /r/SRS. It's coarse and rough and irritating and it gets in everything. Not like /r/Drama. Here everything is soft and smooth.

Disfiguring acne isn't smooth.

what is it with you people trying to own conservatives by their own logic?

it stopped being funny or clever after the first guy did it.

the only thing more annoying than people who use the terms "snowflake" and "safe space" unironically is people who use them ironically.

Sounds like the Trumpette cuck needs his own safe space...

I've seen chatbots with better bantz...

What a cuck you are lol.

You are very boring and unoriginal. Your death would be benevolent because it would hinder the amount of hot air inducing climate change upon this planet with little loss.

This bantz is pathetic. It's literally the same comeback we used to use on you.

If I wanted my own comeback, I'd have wiped your mums chin.

Perhaps you just realized that you don't have an intelligent response, but wanted to say something anyway?

This is /r/drama after all, high horses can't fit down here in the sewer.

Sewer donkeys will rise up!

Tunnel donkeys!

They all float down here.

Yeah, because they're fat.

whine harder. I love it

Careful. Eventually people will stop whining and start bashing back.

Or they'll, I don't know, vote for a political candidate you don't like, /u/misiame. Then you'll have someone like Donald Trump as president. I know it might sound ridiculous now, but I swear it can happen.

Fucking love that picture

Step 3: People on the fence support the genuine fascists because they are, as weird as it may seem, genuine victims.

You are better than that sub /u/LIATG

come back to your roots fam

What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I’m the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You’re fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You’re fucking dead, kiddo.

The random italics are triggering me.

Why would you do this?

Ugh you drama fucks ate so obnoxious and boring

you drama fucks

Cant

erase

your roots

😏

I don't know how this could be called my roots. I petulantly commented here for like a month, recognized that it was garbage, and stoppes

You call Drama garbage while hanging out in SRS. I think you might need to turn to an adult for decision making in the future.

I only hope things improve once you are past your teens.

See, this is the same boring garbage I could've gotten on the Neopets forum when I was 10

It might not excite you as much as purple dildos and frog memes, but it is the actual truth.

Reddit is shit because it is filled with teens that love to share their genius opinions especially when not asked about them and it not being appropriate. Turning random subs into places to shout about fully automated gay communism shout outs definitely falls under that.

Yeah

Is the fate of all forums though dude

the only ones that do work out are the ones where you can keep a sense of community, which is why small susb are without exception better than big ones

That and lack of political tribalism, as if you have a basic respect for people with differents ideologies you wont sperg out as hard when someone disagrees

Which is why a small r/drama will work out better than a small r/srs, you cant disagree in the later without being a pariah.

You disagree and you end up banned. Even their "discussion" sub gets locked down more than prisons. Subs like that are absolute shit. It is even more disturbing that these people jerk themselves raw to the idea that people should die if they disagree with them.

So... 2012?

Probably got raped by a Catholic priest

I don't care if this'll get removed -- BASH THE FASH. The idea that all opinions, all violence, all ideologies are equal is toxic, and I hate the admins for supporting it, OPENLY, in the name of frozen peaches. In fact from what I read it's even now swinging over to the other side, where they will outright favor right wing bullshit by not holding it to the same standards as BASH THE FASH. Guess what admins, that's another FUCK YOU for you, and another BASH THE FASH to the world at large. Never stop bashing the fash, SRS. We need these voices.

Found the teen!

The idea that all opinions ... all ideologies are equal is toxic

It really is amazing how many people in peaceful liberal societies in 2017 have no idea at all how their societies got to be that way. The liberal principle of free speech is of course not that all opinions and all ideologies are equal in merit. It is that the actual merits of an idea are irrelevant to whether its expression should be allowable.

but then, who do I bash?

the gash.

The trash.

typically how it works out tbh

I'd give you gold if this wasn't /r/drama.

To be honest, what I find more amazing that a peaceful, liberal society can exist at all while people such as this seem to be so common and people who are actually tolerant are so few and far between. It's becoming pretty clear to me that this sort of knee-jerk, hysterical, emotional panic is not the exception, it's the norm, on both ends of the political spectrum.

It's been the norm for literally thousands of years.

never stop bashing the fash, SRS

Lol, when did they start?

The saddest thing about this is that no actual fascist is going to be bothered by this, because they are usually violent criminals that the average SRSer wouldn't dare touch. The only people that actually get targeted are conservatives, centrists, trump-supporters, and even liberals.

People think that we are defending literal fascists, wew

I am pretty sure fascists are the first ones wanting internet teenagers to try and come at them, what a great excuse they will have when they end up murdering a couple of leftists.

This exact strategy was a massive success for the Traditionalist Workers Party. They baited antifa into attacking them, and it wound up with antifa taking all of the criminal charges and almost all of the casualties, while drawing considerable attention to their cause.

You have no idea dude

You should see the shitshow that is antifa in Spain, god.

Disgusting subhumans. I'm glad they wear masks.

Yeah this is what bothers me the most

The pussy tactics

Anyway what is true though is that here only the antifa and the fascists usually get hurt, as they basically form a fight club and say that at X time they will be at X place, so at least the antifa here is precise.

That shit really is European larping for retards.

Yep

People gotta do something to pass the time I guess

This is fucking awesome!

Same in Spain. A couple of dozen of Antifa's ganged up on one skinhead and he stabbed one of them to death. Or in Paris, where some antifa kid was left braindead after a skinhead attack.

<o> \o/ <o> \o/ <o> \o/

Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes

Or in Paris, where some antifa kid was left braindead after a skinhead attack.

HOW COULD YOU TELL HAHA

You don't even need to "plan" something like that. Just keep yourself armed if you go to a protest as a general precaution because these retards think it is ok to attack people because they don't like a bumper sticker.

I'm not about to turn the other cheek when human trash throws itself at random people.

what a great excuse they will have when they end up murdering a couple million leftists.

the only actual fascists I know are unemployed and live off their parents/the government

stop pretending fascists today are the same they were 70 years ago

That's because you don't associate with criminals

But i do

WOAAAH!

The only actual fascists I know sell meth and guns and live off the government when they are in prison for murdering people.

That always the case: Infighting and ideological purity usually takes precedence over pragmatism. Being a centrist and/or moderate is like being a Jew: everybody hates the Jews, but for different reasons.

Centrists don't hate the Jews.

I mean, lets be honest

(((centrists)))

I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of people on SRS or similar forums are violent criminals too.

The left has a pretty big "punch a nazi"-movement, at least in Europe.

Reddit admins, pay attention to what I am about to say. Mayos are an active threat. If you want to prove that you have no right-wing bias, then I want you to seriously consider what it means when we say "mayocide now." Cumskins threaten to kill people who are different from them. Crackers, belonging to the race that holds the institutional power in Western society and have the greatest numbers, make minorities feel inferior and make them fear for their lives.

Martinsville, Indiana is a small town known as a sundown town where black people don't walk around at night for fear of being killed by crackers and their KKK friends.

When we mayocide now, what we are saying is, no, fuck you, we aren't going to sit down and take it and let people intimidate others for being different or hurt people for being different. This is fucking basic self-defense.

If you wanna ban this subreddit for defending the innocent, then you better fucking ban trash subs like r/the_donald where I can fucking guarantee there are going to be comments inciting violence against women, minorities, and so on. You allow subreddits like r/TheRedPill to exist where their entire MO is basically talking about how to seduce women, borders on rape apologism, and degrades and objectifies women. If you're going to ban this subreddit or quarantine this subreddit for saying mayocide now and you're not going to do anything about those right-wing cesspools, go fuck yourself. You will probably just create a mass exodus of the Left from Reddit, and you will be stuck with 4Chan 2.0, which is what you deserve.

"The Fash" was my nickname in high school due to my sartorial sensibilities. Are all those subs ganging up on me? Bullying is not okay.

this is an unfortunate happening that you should definitely take up with the admins - bullyciding is NOT OK.

It's getting boring. Just fucking do it already. The mere thought of an "srs army" marching the streets is hilarious.

Sadly friend we are not so blessed as to exist in a world that would allow such thing to come into existence.

God how I wish to see pictures of a SRS meetup.

Just imagine the fucking stench of nasty unwashed pussies and neckbeards of fat, not beard.

My diet intensifies....

It's getting boring. Just fucking do it already.

Damn, the mere thought of the next four years of "guise we're totally going to bash le fash and march the revolution" is excruciating. These morons are all bark and no bite and I'm tired of seeing their impotent whining. The babies are too scared to actually do anything.

I assumed it would be more of a waddle down the street

I'm not sure if it's her sweet tits or the cross dressing fuckboi, but they sure put the fear in to me. Wouldn't want to cross those bad hombres.

Just fucking do it already

Yesterday you said tomorrow...

Oh, the joyful stupidity of those shitsticks who refuse to understand the difference between private property and personal property in regard to socialist discourse. No one wants your desktop or your car or your house, m8s. We want the fucking means of production.

You'll die if you try to take either, cupcake.

This is what "bash the fash" is really all about. They know a communist revolution has no greater chance of happening in 21st century America than it did in 1950s America, plus they're poor NEET millennials with few prospects, so they do in fact covet our wealth while they rant and rave at how much better they would run the corporations that aren't filling enough diversity quotas.

They want to bash the fash for precisely the same reasons people bash any member of a minority group - frustration, fear, envy, and insecurity. They're little people who want to feel big, and they've got a rationalization for violence so transparent that it takes a college education to not see it for what is.

The official mod position on this issue at the moment is that "BASH THE FASH" expresses a general sentiment towards fascism at large, and thus does not constitute a threat against a specific actual person

u/waitwhatnow lol at you for pretending to believe this

From that anarchism thread...

So according to the admins, it's heresy of the highest order to say things like "bash the fash" but it's a-ok to keep subs and users around that actively call for genocide, rape, post (probably) child pornography, are openly mysoginistic, etc., etc... now that's fucking diabolical.

DIABOLICAL

Reddit administration is diabolical and allows calls for genocide of le marginalized groups and women™.

Now you might ask what are these big vitriolic subreddits that weren't banned or quarantined. So did I.

I was promptly banned and left wondering what is "politicide" supposed to mean.

My best guess is being so annoyingly polite to them, they decide to back to whatever place their ancestors came from. What do you think?

I know how this will play out. SRS gets banned (finally) and The Verge will state something about how Reddit has been cucked by the alt-right. Cue outrage, /u/spez getting kicked out by the board, and Reddit's inevitable Digg v4-esque decline.

If that much of reddit is easily offended SJWs then this shithole deserves to die.

it deserves to die though

If reddit does a digg it'll be due to how they handle monetization and ads, not some petty political bullshit.

Should attacking fascists really be considered violence? No, but reddit answers to fascist sympathizers so they will consider it violence.

bash the fash can be said to mean dismantle fascist ideology, not necessarily attack fascists. Yeah but it definitely means attack fascists

Is u/100altreichscalps serious? Damn you poe

Wtf i love the admins now

We have always been at war with Eastasia.

Internet violence is the worst.

Or at least the second worse.

Fash the bash.

No one on this site is doing shit except raise their hand during a lecture and piss everyone off. Fight facists and you're going to get stabbed. Let them speak their mind and their dumb-fuck ideology falls apart. Punching a fat Republican at a rally isn't going to end fascism. Fight for better education and maybe things will improve. Try and make changes to the country that will have long-term improvements insteads of fighting tooth and nail over dumb shit.

It's whatever. I just feel like our country would be better if younger liberals stopped fighting over dumb shit. I want to see an end to institutional racism, better treatment for the LGBT community, and way fucking more funding to education. Better schools would solve a lot of problems. Punching some redneck because he said fag does literally nothing. Educate the kids so they don't end up calling people fags or punching people for dumbass reasons.

This comment is way too long. Fuck it. Nothing will change. 30 years from now people will be arguing about the same shit. Hopefully I'll own a Mustang and be on TRT by then.

what are these pro rape and pedophilia subs that they're always whatabouting about?

They're real (they're not).

Just like "the fash" they want to bash.

Start up the rotors, stack the leftists high
Racing the motors, toss them from the sky
Pissing and screaming, the helicopter is so loud
Free your nation, prosperous and proud!

Is this a real limerick?

Oh, the joyful stupidity of those shitsticks who refuse to understand the difference between private property and personal property in regard to socialist discourse. No one wants your desktop or your car or your house, m8s. We want the fucking means of production.

Oh gee that's reassuring /u/TimeAndOrSpacePirate, you only want to seize my (hypothetical me) toolshed, my business, my website, my patents, my legal documentation, my software and much of my life's work that is the means by which I produce the fruits of my labour, but at least my desktop is safe. Nothing to be concerned about guys.

BASH THE BRDS

the only things these losers are bashing is each others butts

It does not sit right with me to enforce a generic "bash the fash" comment when half of Reddit is like "but rape is totally awesome and hitting women is totally awesome and btw minorities should be killed for existing"

Literally half, huh? Damn, /u/Archangelle_Adelle, that's one hell of a persecution complex you have going on. But then again, kind of a prerequisite hmm?

/u/waitwhatnow

The official mod position on this issue at the moment is that "KILL ALL MUDSLIME" expresses a general sentiment towards DARKIES at large, and thus does not constitute a threat against a specific actual person, and as such we will not be removing it.

Considering fash has lost all meaning except for "my political opponents" No horse shoes here, move along.

The official mod position on this issue at the moment is that "BASH THE FASH" expresses a general sentiment towards fascism at large, and thus does not constitute a threat against a specific actual person, and as such we will not be removing it.

Holy mental gymnastics, batman! I didn't know we had ourselves a bourgeois scum lawyer!

I also didn't know they just meant they wanted to "bash" an ideology. That's fine then! Cute and cuddly! Bash the fash totes has nothing to do with the Anti-fa movement. Those guys advocate violence against fascists, but not our friends here, nosiree!