Dude, Communists only want to kill the great majority of Jews, not all of them like the Nazis. The difference is that Jews who are poor, and agree with them, live.
Tankies want to kill you because you own an Xbox and a microwave. You're supposed to be toiling away in the fields and not exploiting 3rd world countries for your standard of living, bourgeois scum!
Literally ripping off PissPigGranddad/Brace Belden, the YPG fighter who just got back from Rojava. Aruraljuror can't even come up with original insults lmao.
You know, I'm a social worker in training, who has taken dozens of left-leaning academic courses in college, like Social Diversity, Policy and Social Justice, etc. and I would consider myself ideologically a fairly progressive guy to be honest.
But places like nega and CB2 will make me admit in a heartbeat that progressiveness was a mistake.
I think it's like the worst 20% of Negareddit's userbase that makes everything worse. To be honest it's gotten a lot better lately and isn't as much of a punchline, that was probably /u/Br00ce telling the edgelords and tankies what's what.
I used to read it to laugh at the threads, but I unsubbed after Trump won because it just became so boring. Is it back to the normal whining about reddit now?
you're literally getting upset and suspicious that i use the words socialism and communism more or less interchangeably to refer to a broad umbrella of ideologies, what on earth are you doing throwing around shade?
No one is suspicious or upset. Just pointing out that when far lefties want to make it sound better, they call communism socialism and say things like "well it's all in the same broad umbrella".
If that bothers you, remember you're a grown man with the ideology of a 14 year old, have a Capri Sun, and relax.
You're literally getting upset and suspicious that I said you use the words socialism and communism more or less interchangeably to refer to a broad umbrella of ideologies as a way of lessening the impact.
I've never, ever seen you win an e-argument, and god knows you get into enough of them.
Remember that time you said Hillary was a loser and the Democrats lose and suck, but then argued about how the far left is somehow not a losing bunch of losers? I do.
Worth noting that Marx also used these terms interchangeably so it's not like he is the first to do so.
That's a little disingenuous.
From the second international into the founding of the third, pretty much any party following the line that Lenin had laid out was called a "Communist Party," the Bernstein line was called "Social Democracy," and the positions in the middle that generally favored Kautsky's ideas about revolution were called "Socialist."
Pretty much everyone who formally or informally attached themselves to the Bolshevik revolution are now called communists. That's largely what they called themselves when the Comintern demanded that left-wing factions sympathetic to the Bolsheviks break off from their parent party.
One by one the Left-Communists, Luxemburgists, Lovestoneites, etc renounced the Bolsheviks, but the only sensible reason why they would be considered Communists--while something like De-Leonism isn't--is their affiliation with the Bolsheviks.
the only contrary example i can think of is Anarcho-Communists. A lot of anarchists did ally with the early Bolshevik movement, but they either left very early or were converted, so the revolution had much less of an effect on their ideological history and identity.
Casper the unfriendly ghost, aren't you a filthy lumberjack prole that keeps defending rich liberals?
It's incredible the sheer level of cognitive dissonance you have to maintain on a daily level.
You mock libertarians then attack communists/socialists using libertarian meme tier arguements.
I think the drama in general is, as always, SRD cannot abide people making fun of THEIR brand of violent political extremism. An otherwise innocuous post spawns dozens of children as they try to explain that it's different when they do it.
Even if that's right (which I don't really care if it is or not I'm not arguing politics in this sub) then that's not really "drama". That's just us agendaposting lmao.
I've long, long since learned to completely disregard the opinions of basically everyone on Reddit as next to worthless on their own. I generally just use the responses I get as a way to improve my own arguments; when it's just whining and noise (like in this thread) then I know they haven't got anything and I'm fine keeping those lines. If people keep hammering a specific point or two then I adjust to counter that next time.
Is this possibly the most smug thing ever said in SRD?
Why is that even smug? I'm just saying that I comment primarily to improve my own arguments, when "ur wrong and i'm mad" is the main response then there's nothing to respond to.
It's like you don't understand why people don't take you seriously. You saying you don't take them seriously is way, way behind schedule. It's the e-equivalent of saying "You can't fire me, I quit!"
wow people on /r/drama dislike me/don't take me seriously, that's totally different than literally everything else that comes up in this subreddit, i should definitely treat that as meaningful
The /r/EnoughCommieSpam guys might as well be communists because they have no sense of humor, irony, or proportion. Their only redeeming quality is that they realize communism doesn't work.
People who act like communism and socialism are unrelated or that the two terms can't be interchangeable in many scenarios should wear a sign that says "I'm pseudo-intellectual."
116 comments
n/a SnapshillBot 2017-04-15
Buzzword is, itself, a buzzword now.
Snapshots:
I am a bot. (Info / Contact)
n/a itsaboyffxiv 2017-04-15
ACKSHUALLY
n/a Hitlery_Clinton 2017-04-15
Oh please do tell us how great it's going to be next time around
n/a TheChowderhead 2017-04-15
In Communism, when you're lined up against the wall, you might be staving or beaten, insteas of just beaten!
n/a slutagium 2017-04-15
TIL that the Jews were provided ample amounts of food during their mass extermination...
n/a Kodiak_Marmoset 2017-04-15
TIL that some people are autistic enough to nitpick obvious jokes on /r/drama.
n/a Ardvarkeating101 2017-04-15
How long have you been here
n/a Condi_Rice 2017-04-15
TIL how many boxcars there are in the average train! I love trains.
n/a Kodiak_Marmoset 2017-04-15
It's my first day!
n/a slutagium 2017-04-15
kys
n/a LLAXIS 2017-04-15
Fuck off we're full
n/a Nomadlads 2017-04-15
My ass still has room for one or two more dicks.
n/a Western_Promises 2017-04-15
You have to go back.
n/a Kodiak_Marmoset 2017-04-15
Racist!
n/a Wordshark 2017-04-15
Oh well then I can understand--wait a minute!
n/a totalarkwar 2017-04-15
Dude, Communists only want to kill the great majority of Jews, not all of them like the Nazis. The difference is that Jews who are poor, and agree with them, live.
Tankies want to kill you because you own an Xbox and a microwave. You're supposed to be toiling away in the fields and not exploiting 3rd world countries for your standard of living, bourgeois scum!
n/a activatedalmondz 2017-04-15
Actually communists are Jews. They don't want to kill them if they don't have to.
n/a sex_tourism 2017-04-15
Which is stronger, commie infighting tendency or racial ties?
n/a krutopatkin 2017-04-15
Worth noting that Marx also used these terms interchangeably so it's not like he is the first to do so.
n/a atakeonhooper 2017-04-15
Ya, my first thought was "does OP not get that they are used interchangeably all the time"
My second thought was "people who post in drama are pretty stupid."
n/a InOranAsElsewhere 2017-04-15
It appears that OP does not know this.
n/a Sarge_Ward 2017-04-15
Most drama posters don't seem to know a lot about communism besides "lol throw them out a helicopter XD."
n/a headasplodes 2017-04-15
Is there a reason to?
n/a Sarge_Ward 2017-04-15
Not necessarily, but its an overdone meme.
n/a supergauntlet 2017-04-15
>sarge complaining about overdone memes
🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
n/a Sarge_Ward 2017-04-15
don't you start
n/a supergauntlet 2017-04-15
consider yourself #bullied
n/a Sarge_Ward 2017-04-15
I consider it a compliment tbh. I'm actually payed enough attention to here to be bullied by someone. Wasn't the case in high school.
n/a supergauntlet 2017-04-15
smh tbh
n/a fajardo99 2017-04-15
stop making me sad jeff
n/a supergauntlet 2017-04-15
Fancy seeing you here
n/a fajardo99 2017-04-15
i didn't give you permission to reply to me
n/a fajardo99 2017-04-15
also go to sleep jeez
n/a EllenPaosFrontButt 2017-04-15
bullyciding is not ok fam
n/a marsjazztrio 2017-04-15
My man, you just said you were an aspiring social worker, somehow I don't think you're a top polisci mind.
n/a Sarge_Ward 2017-04-15
I don't. I'm don't really care about politics at all tbh. I'm just pointing out that neither is the majority of drama users.
n/a horseseatears 2017-04-15
There's no real benefit to normal people spending time learning about communism. It's not something that affects peoples' lives.
n/a Prince_Kropotkin 2017-04-15
I was wondering why I started getting even less intelligent replies in that thread. Ahhh it was linked here, makes sense.
n/a Br00ce 2017-04-15
Hey prince, who deserves the gulag, you or me?
https://www.reddit.com/r/NegaRedditRedux/comments/65lwya/fuck_br00ce/
n/a Prince_Kropotkin 2017-04-15
lmao we're both on the list
/u/aruraljuror is that you being megabutthurt again
n/a Br00ce 2017-04-15
I wouldn't put it past him. He is truly insufferable
http://prnt.sc/disaeg
n/a Prince_Kropotkin 2017-04-15
What is that? I just get a blank page.
n/a Br00ce 2017-04-15
oh yeah it can take a bit to load for some reason. It's just a pm juror sent me awhile ago http://i.imgur.com/KHy1Wj8.png
n/a Prince_Kropotkin 2017-04-15
Literally ripping off PissPigGranddad/Brace Belden, the YPG fighter who just got back from Rojava. Aruraljuror can't even come up with original insults lmao.
n/a Sarge_Ward 2017-04-15
who's the other guy? Combative Douche? Never seen him before.
n/a Prince_Kropotkin 2017-04-15
Looks like a Negareddit mod. I have no idea personally.
n/a Sarge_Ward 2017-04-15
hmm... I have -1 on them in RES, so negareddit mod sounds about right.
n/a LLAXIS 2017-04-15
He's the head mod of /r/Negareddit. He's actually an alright guy, it's just the users that are terrible
n/a Sarge_Ward 2017-04-15
weird. Why is it that the mods of these communities (nega, CB2,) are pretty cool people, but the users are awful?
n/a LLAXIS 2017-04-15
Because progressiveness is a cancer
n/a Sarge_Ward 2017-04-15
You know, I'm a social worker in training, who has taken dozens of left-leaning academic courses in college, like Social Diversity, Policy and Social Justice, etc. and I would consider myself ideologically a fairly progressive guy to be honest.
But places like nega and CB2 will make me admit in a heartbeat that progressiveness was a mistake.
n/a usedontheskin 2017-04-15
Thankfully, they're starting to use liberal as a pejorative so we can use it without shame again soon.
n/a Prince_Kropotkin 2017-04-15
I think it's like the worst 20% of Negareddit's userbase that makes everything worse. To be honest it's gotten a lot better lately and isn't as much of a punchline, that was probably /u/Br00ce telling the edgelords and tankies what's what.
n/a LLAXIS 2017-04-15
I used to read it to laugh at the threads, but I unsubbed after Trump won because it just became so boring. Is it back to the normal whining about reddit now?
n/a Prince_Kropotkin 2017-04-15
I mostly just show up when pinged.
n/a headasplodes 2017-04-15
What a complete load of shit. Socialists jump down your throat if you call socialism communism
n/a krutopatkin 2017-04-15
Non Marxist ones
n/a itsaboyffxiv 2017-04-15
Are you fucking retarded
n/a krutopatkin 2017-04-15
No u
n/a SamInTheLoop 2017-04-15
They call it socialism when they want to make it more palatable. Note how that's what Prince us trying to do.
There's big differences nonetheless, though.
n/a Prince_Kropotkin 2017-04-15
wow it's a conspiracy, mind control
n/a SamInTheLoop 2017-04-15
That's not a conspiracy, you mouth breather.
n/a Prince_Kropotkin 2017-04-15
you're literally getting upset and suspicious that i use the words socialism and communism more or less interchangeably to refer to a broad umbrella of ideologies, what on earth are you doing throwing around shade?
n/a SamInTheLoop 2017-04-15
No one is suspicious or upset. Just pointing out that when far lefties want to make it sound better, they call communism socialism and say things like "well it's all in the same broad umbrella".
If that bothers you, remember you're a grown man with the ideology of a 14 year old, have a Capri Sun, and relax.
n/a Prince_Kropotkin 2017-04-15
DAE people who disagree with me have the ideologies of 14 year olds
n/a SamInTheLoop 2017-04-15
You're literally getting upset and suspicious that I said you use the words socialism and communism more or less interchangeably to refer to a broad umbrella of ideologies as a way of lessening the impact.
I've never, ever seen you win an e-argument, and god knows you get into enough of them.
Remember that time you said Hillary was a loser and the Democrats lose and suck, but then argued about how the far left is somehow not a losing bunch of losers? I do.
n/a Prince_Kropotkin 2017-04-15
https://twitter.com/dril/status/549425182767861760?lang=en
n/a SamInTheLoop 2017-04-15
k
n/a Prince_Kropotkin 2017-04-15
https://twitter.com/dril/status/134787490526658561?lang=en
n/a Chicup 2017-04-15
After watching the antifa get their asses kicked I not sure the left could pierce a Capri Sun with the straw.
n/a TotesMessenger 2017-04-15
I'm a bot, bleep, bloop. Someone has linked to this thread from another place on reddit:
If you follow any of the above links, please respect the rules of reddit and don't vote in the other threads. (Info / Contact)
n/a SamInTheLoop 2017-04-15
No, /u/Sarge_Ward, you're definitely not this guy.
n/a Sarge_Ward 2017-04-15
Just a title dude. Just wanted to keep my sub well and alive. You were mostly in the right on this one tbh.
n/a usedontheskin 2017-04-15
/r/conspiracy for you, person observing apologia.
n/a itsaboyffxiv 2017-04-15
It's sorta transparent
n/a usedontheskin 2017-04-15
Worth noting they're not actually the same thing, though.
n/a krutopatkin 2017-04-15
Marx disagrees
n/a usedontheskin 2017-04-15
He couldn't even decide what it was called before he died, so who gives a shit about an OLD WHITE DUDE.
n/a WearyTunes 2017-04-15
That's a little disingenuous.
From the second international into the founding of the third, pretty much any party following the line that Lenin had laid out was called a "Communist Party," the Bernstein line was called "Social Democracy," and the positions in the middle that generally favored Kautsky's ideas about revolution were called "Socialist."
Pretty much everyone who formally or informally attached themselves to the Bolshevik revolution are now called communists. That's largely what they called themselves when the Comintern demanded that left-wing factions sympathetic to the Bolsheviks break off from their parent party.
One by one the Left-Communists, Luxemburgists, Lovestoneites, etc renounced the Bolsheviks, but the only sensible reason why they would be considered Communists--while something like De-Leonism isn't--is their affiliation with the Bolsheviks.
the only contrary example i can think of is Anarcho-Communists. A lot of anarchists did ally with the early Bolshevik movement, but they either left very early or were converted, so the revolution had much less of an effect on their ideological history and identity.
n/a Sarge_Ward 2017-04-15
I see like one instance of Prince actually arguing. Most of that thread seems to be agreeing with him. There's like 0 drama here.
n/a Prince_Kropotkin 2017-04-15
I think people just link me whenever they see me in other subs now.
n/a Sarge_Ward 2017-04-15
I know I do.
PKDF is such a great sub
n/a Prince_Kropotkin 2017-04-15
heh
n/a GhostofRFS 2017-04-15
When PK rolls up into your hood.
n/a Prince_Kropotkin 2017-04-15
I think you should start up a Paul Simon cover band. You can sing Still Salty After All These Years, maybe One Man's Downvote is Another Man's Karma.
n/a GhostofRFS 2017-04-15
Oh you and your hatred of the proletariat.
n/a Deity_Of_Darkness 2017-04-15
Casper the unfriendly ghost, aren't you a filthy lumberjack prole that keeps defending rich liberals?
It's incredible the sheer level of cognitive dissonance you have to maintain on a daily level. You mock libertarians then attack communists/socialists using libertarian meme tier arguements.
You are just a butthurt fuckup.
n/a GhostofRFS 2017-04-15
We're about a month away from PK's fan club saying the IWW are a bunch of liberal cucks.
n/a SamInTheLoop 2017-04-15
R u blind
n/a Sarge_Ward 2017-04-15
I could be, but all I see is civil conversation. No one's getting upset or calling eachother names or anything like that.
Maybe I just didn't browse far enough yet.
n/a SamInTheLoop 2017-04-15
I think the drama in general is, as always, SRD cannot abide people making fun of THEIR brand of violent political extremism. An otherwise innocuous post spawns dozens of children as they try to explain that it's different when they do it.
n/a Sarge_Ward 2017-04-15
Even if that's right (which I don't really care if it is or not I'm not arguing politics in this sub) then that's not really "drama". That's just us agendaposting lmao.
n/a SamInTheLoop 2017-04-15
lmao it's fun to laugh
n/a Sarge_Ward 2017-04-15
eh fair enough if that's what you enjoy. I'm more a fan of drama posts where people get FURIOUS at eachother in back and forth insult fights myself.
n/a Prince_Kropotkin 2017-04-15
It's not like I don't provoke furious rage on a regular basis, OP could just like wait a day or two.
n/a Sarge_Ward 2017-04-15
But I need that juicy "make fun of Prince in the title" karma NOW!
n/a SamInTheLoop 2017-04-15
lmao the communist defense team it's more in effect here than there.
I think the reason /u/haoxue33 is upvoted there is because hair of the SRD regulars just got beat up in Berkley.
n/a BigBrainsonBradley 2017-04-15
do not compare killers on my side of the political spectrum to the other side!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
n/a usedontheskin 2017-04-15
They're literal college kids. Very few of them there (or the ones here) have had much interaction with the world.
n/a no_frills 2017-04-15
Horseshit reeeeeeeeeee
n/a usedontheskin 2017-04-15
/r/enoughcommiespam just doesn't understand :(
n/a MegaSeedsInYourBum 2017-04-15
It isn't mass murder if we do it!!!!!
n/a Wraith_GraveSpell 2017-04-15
Is this possibly the most smug thing ever said in SRD?
n/a Prince_Kropotkin 2017-04-15
Why is that even smug? I'm just saying that I comment primarily to improve my own arguments, when "ur wrong and i'm mad" is the main response then there's nothing to respond to.
n/a Wraith_GraveSpell 2017-04-15
>arguing on Reddit
>Serious business
Honestly it was just the tone that was smug about it.
n/a Prince_Kropotkin 2017-04-15
It's not serious business. I just like having good arguments.
n/a Will0saurus 2017-04-15
> good arguments
> the shit slinging competition known as reddit
pick one
n/a deere442 2017-04-15
you sound 14. how often do you use the term "logic and reason"?
n/a Prince_Kropotkin 2017-04-15
maybe you can logic and reason it out
n/a usedontheskin 2017-04-15
It's like you don't understand why people don't take you seriously. You saying you don't take them seriously is way, way behind schedule. It's the e-equivalent of saying "You can't fire me, I quit!"
n/a Prince_Kropotkin 2017-04-15
wow people on /r/drama dislike me/don't take me seriously, that's totally different than literally everything else that comes up in this subreddit, i should definitely treat that as meaningful
n/a usedontheskin 2017-04-15
Was that sarcasm
n/a Mexagon 2017-04-15
You're a fucking caricature.
n/a nithingpole 2017-04-15
That whole quote is /r/iamverysmart in a nutshell.
n/a jubbergun 2017-04-15
The /r/EnoughCommieSpam guys might as well be communists because they have no sense of humor, irony, or proportion. Their only redeeming quality is that they realize communism doesn't work.
n/a marsjazztrio 2017-04-15
/u/Prince_Kropotin is my lolalt for when I want to mock far leftists.
n/a Darenflagart 2017-04-15
People who act like communism and socialism are unrelated or that the two terms can't be interchangeable in many scenarios should wear a sign that says "I'm pseudo-intellectual."
n/a HobbesCalvinandLocke 2017-04-15
Oh that's so precious