I am sure that you are a proud sjw. Claps to you sir. By the way, you are no better than an alt righter because a sjw is an alt leftist. To eliminate racism, you must acknowledge that the term race is stupid and it nothing more but a construct that divides us. Keep plaguing this sub with your ignorance. MLK would not be proud of you and I am not even white (why the fuck should that matter anyway?).
Wow you're really being generous there. They're as white as a snowbank in Alaska. If IRL they are anything less than 99.5% white I'll actually be surprised.
(Another good retort is “We’re number one? Sure – number one in incarceration rates, drone strikes, and making new parents go back to work!”)
All of this is true, of course. But it’s weird that it’s such a classic interest of members of the Blue Tribe, and members of the Red Tribe never seem to bring it up.
(“We’re number one? Sure – number one in levels of sexual degeneracy! Well, I guess probably number two, after the Netherlands, but they’re really small and shouldn’t count.”)
My hunch – both the Red Tribe and the Blue Tribe, for whatever reason, identify “America” with the Red Tribe. Ask people for typically “American” things, and you end up with a very Red list of characteristics – guns, religion, barbecues, American football, NASCAR, cowboys, SUVs, unrestrained capitalism.
That means the Red Tribe feels intensely patriotic about “their” country, and the Blue Tribe feels like they’re living in fortified enclaves deep in hostile territory.
Here is a popular piece published on a major media site called America: A Big, Fat, Stupid Nation. Another: America: A Bunch Of Spoiled, Whiny Brats. Americans are ignorant, scientifically illiterate religious fanatics whose “patriotism” is actually just narcissism. You Will Be Shocked At How Ignorant Americans Are, and we should Blame The Childish, Ignorant American People.
Needless to say, every single one of these articles was written by an American and read almost entirely by Americans. Those Americans very likely enjoyed the articles very much and did not feel the least bit insulted.
And look at the sources. HuffPo, Salon, Slate. Might those have anything in common?
On both sides, “American” can be either a normal demonym, or a code word for a member of the Red Tribe.
Spending your entire life insulting the other tribe and talking about how terrible they are makes you look, well, tribalistic. It is definitely not high class. So when members of the Blue Tribe decide to dedicate their entire life to yelling about how terrible the Red Tribe is, they make sure that instead of saying “the Red Tribe”, they say “America”, or “white people”, or “straight white men”. That way it’s humble self-criticism. They are so interested in justice that they are willing to critique their own beloved side, much as it pains them to do so. We know they are not exaggerating, because one might exaggerate the flaws of an enemy, but that anyone would exaggerate their own flaws fails the criterion of embarrassment.
The Blue Tribe always has an excuse at hand to persecute and crush any Red Tribers unfortunate enough to fall into its light-matter-universe by defining them as all-powerful domineering oppressors. They appeal to the fact that this is definitely the way it works in the Red Tribe’s dark-matter-universe, and that’s in the same country so it has to be the same community for all intents and purposes. As a result, every Blue Tribe institution is permanently licensed to take whatever emergency measures are necessary against the Red Tribe, however disturbing they might otherwise seem.
And so how virtuous, how noble the Blue Tribe! Perfectly tolerant of all of the different groups that just so happen to be allied with them, never intolerant unless it happen to be against intolerance itself. Never stooping to engage in petty tribal conflict like that awful Red Tribe, but always nobly criticizing their own culture and striving to make it better!
Sorry. But I hope this is at least a little convincing. The weird dynamic of outgroup-philia and ingroup-phobia isn’t anything of the sort. It’s just good old-fashioned in-group-favoritism and outgroup bashing, a little more sophisticated and a little more sneaky.
u/SolidWookie I'm going to guess you're a mayo and a tankie so do the world a favor and kill yourself. Don't you find it odd that white people are so bad yet they have all sorts of poc's following them around wherever they go. When Asians or Africans or Muslims dream of a better life or immigrate its always a country full of mayos. Please explain how this is possible if whitey is so bad.
So, when whites were going to where Asians, Africans etc lived and setting up homes, were they doing it because they loved them, or because they went for a better life?
uh, no cleetus. It wasn't structured. They moved into the best arable lands, ethnically cleansing the people who used them for a millenia. They then used the victims as slave labor. Piece of garbage trumpanzee thinks white settlers and colonists set shit up LOL
They moved into the best arable lands, ethnically cleansing the people who used them for a millenia. They then used the victims as slave labor.
Are you daft? I'm not justifying it morally or ethically. But what you just wrote there is definitely a structured and successful approach to colonization.
They took the arable land and enslaved the native people. They put in railroads, roads upgraded parts of cities to western standards. Established mail services. You know, building infrastructure beyond what was present. Made a fine place for the Mayos.
erm, because the west (primarily white people gee isn't that funny) have been exploiting poorer countries (and using racism as an excuse) and stealing their wealth. In the past it was through direct colonialism, now it's through free market trade agreements.
So you are saying white nations dominated non white nations. Are you implying that white people are smarter than non white people because they can broker these deals that naturally are in their favor?
You're right but you are extremely naive. What do you think was going on in the middle east before the white man, you think Islam just spread itself. You don't think African tribes weren't constantly at war, I mean it was tribes selling slaves to the west, white people weren't just snatching them up. Fighting and taking has been going on since the first humans. Whitey had better technology so whitey one. To pretend that these other groups wouldn't have done the same is silly. Whitey has brought science, medicine and technology throughout the world, and the countries are the most tolerant and accepting in the history of mankind.
It's just reality, its been going on since the tribal days. The west isn't the only one who does it, check out what China is doing to Africa. At least when the west does it we try and build schools, roads, and services. For how bad the white man is the infrastructure of counties we've pressured sure does improve drastically.
Africans put their own people into slavery. The Muslim slave trade dwarfed the trans Atlantic trade.
This is in absolutely no way a justification or vindication for what Americans did. Rather that's just kinda the way the world was at the time. We were all a little bit shittier.
I was going to post a 70 page report on how free trade helped 1 billion people out of poverty, effectively cutting global poverty in half and allowed for incomes to rise for the entire world population, but then I read your entirely uninformed and oversimplified analogy and I realized how wrong all those (((globalists))) are.
Whites were bad in the 1960's. Buit then so is most of the world, Africans routinely genocide each other and so do Muslims. But you will never hear a tankie say "fuck black people" or "fuck muslims".
Actual, for real, no-shit, slavery. But you wont hear anyone from /r/anarchism or any leftist for that matter, breathe a word of criticism for the slave masters. They might try to twist this into a "it's the white people's fault!" excuse, but they wont dare blame religion.
...on the other hand, there were some white people who were assholes about a swimming pool 50 years ago so ...FUCK WHITE PEOPLE!!
It sucks because there's no place to go. I can't go to the right. Trump is a moron. They deny settled science and rational economic policy. I'm pro-choice, against any drug prohibition, and I think we have to institute basic income and social safety nets because soon (like real soon - as soon as driverless cars hit the market) we're going have massive unemployment. I'm a registered democrat, but basically, fuck democrats and fuck the left. They're violent bullies who are literally against the concept of free speech, which is just mind boggling to me.
So does large numbers on the left, its just different science.
One of my favorite exchanges about this was with a woman who after Bush got reelected was in a minor fit and complained about creationism (dumb yes). She got offended when I pointed out she believed in palm reading (also dumb).
Hell many on the left try to say that there is no such thing as race, which is scientifically daft to anyone who understands genetics.
So does large numbers on the left, its just different science.
That's very true.
My favorite example of science that the left denies is pretty much anything involving human behavior and genetics. Here's what I mean (archive). Paige Harden has a PhD in Clinical Psychology from the University of Virginia. She is an actual scientist. And yet, as she says in those tweets, leftists tell her that her work is "problematic" - not that she's wrong, oh no. Just that it's "problematic" and that it would be "good" if she stopped doing science.
The left is just as much anti-science as the right. They most definitely don't have the moral high ground here.
New genetic data has enabled scientists to re-examine the relationship between human genetic variation and 'race'. We review the results of genetic analyses that show that human genetic variation is geographically structured, in accord with historical patterns of gene flow and genetic drift. Analysis of many loci now yields reasonably accurate estimates of genetic similarity among individuals, rather than populations. Clustering of individuals is correlated with geographic origin or ancestry. These clusters are also correlated with some traditional concepts of race, but the correlations are imperfect because genetic variation tends to be distributed in a continuous, overlapping fashion among populations. Therefore, ancestry, or even race, may in some cases prove useful in the biomedical setting, but direct assessment of disease-related genetic variation will ultimately yield more accurate and beneficial information.
Anyways I could keep going with google if you like. In medicine we know there are differences in races with various diseases, growth patterns, etc. Race as "black, white, asian, whatever" are social constructs to an extent, but the problem is we base it socially on ONE aspect.
Hell many on the left try to say that there is no such thing as race, which is scientifically daft to anyone who understands genetics.
No it's not. Race is not a genetic classification, and never has been. It's a class classification. There's no scientific standard for "black," but there are social mores governing who gets to call themselves "black" or "white."
I'm amazed he doesn't realise if most whites 'were that bad', the civil rights movement wouldn't have succeeded. But then again, he does hang around on r@, so he probably doesn't have much up top.
I'm amazed he doesn't realise if most whites 'were that bad', the civil rights movement wouldn't have succeeded.
A study came out recently which asked whether you'd be upset if a member of your family had an interracial marriage. About 20% of white people said yes. This is white people in 2017.
What percentage of white people in the 1960s thought that it would be better if blacks stuck to their own swimming pools?
A sign of the times, in 1963, a Gallup poll found that 78% of white people would leave their neighborhood if many black families moved in.
When it comes to MLK’s march on Washington, 60% had an unfavorable view of the march, stating that they felt it would cause violence and would not accomplish anything.
At the time, a plurality of whites did support the Civil Rights Act (possibly a slight majority, but the article only says that 1 month after passage a slight majority supported, but leading up to it "there was support", the article isn't super clear).
Anyway, you might be interested in reading a little bit about the Civil Rights movement. It was largely organized by black churches, and while some white people did get involved at large events like the March on Washington and the Selma march, the movement was mostly a struggle between grassroots bands of black people and local white police/militia/citizens.
As far as the white-black marriages (not dating), nearly two-thirds of whites (64%) say they would be fine with a family member marrying a black person; an additional 27% say they would be bothered but would come to accept it.
I got the thought from this article. The article itself purports to claim that Republicans lag behind Democrats in terms of various metrics which gauge acceptance of non-white races, particularly black people. That's not what I'm citing though. In particular, I'm citing this data:
It's a similar story on interracial marriage; 26 percent of white Republicans say they'd be opposed to a family member or close relative marrying a black person, versus 12 percent of white Democrats. That 14-point gap is tied for the largest with 2010.
It's possible that among white people who are not Democratic or Republican affiliated, the numbers are much lower and thus bring it down, but that seems unlikely. It seems like the number for moderates would fall between that of Democrats and Republicans. So we'd expect the number to be somewhere around 20.4, give or take a couple percentage points.
This data isn't perfect, however. Also, I couldn't find the source of the raw data. I'm assuming it came from the full collection of data from the GSS, but I didn't want to download that and dig all the way through it so I didn't vet it. It doesn't seem to be listed in the highlighted trends.
I think it's because they're held to lower standards. The racism of low expectations.
Tolerate the same deviance in acceptable behavior and they'll act the same as everybody else.
White trash moves into the neighborhood and the locals don't tolerate their shit. Black trash moves in and the first person to say anything is branded racist. The black people are able to get away with whatever they want because they have and play the race card where a white person doing the same thing would feel social pressure to either get the fuck out of the neighborhood or act like a civilized person.
Inherently? Nothing, they're just people like you or me. Sociologically, I don't know. Why do poor people do stupid shit? Why do poor people feel the need to be taken care of? Why do poor people dislike education or those who are educated?
I grew up poor, from a poor farming family that's been in this country since the 1620s. Most of my family is like this, they're white trash. Luckily my mom pushed self reliance and thinking things through for my entire life. Hell my brother is a god damn socialist who thinks the state should take care of people who don't want to work.
The honest answer though is I don't know. That's not my area of expertise it's just 37 years of observation.
A study came out recently which asked whether you'd be upset if a member of your family had an interracial marriage. About 20% of white people said yes. This is white people in 2017.
If you mean this then white people are still more accepting than others unless you're cherry picking people 50+ which is dumb.
A study came out recently which asked whether you'd be upset if a member of your family had an interracial marriage. About 20% of white people said yes. This is white people in 2017.
So 20% of white people are somewhat bigoted, though not necessarily racist?
Anyway, you might be interested in reading a little bit about the Civil Rights movement. It was largely organized by black churches,
if most whites 'were that bad', the civil rights movement wouldn't have succeeded
i think many white people acted like most other groups that are powerful--some stridently oppose, some stridently support, most just didn't think about it.
That's probably true, especially of Whites living in the Northern states. For Whites living in the Southern states, racial tension was probably a fairly significant part of their life. Most of them opposed.
Because to say fuck white people, isn't saying fuck everyone who is white. We live in a white supremacist society. Its not that all white people are actively trying to enforce that hierarchy, but all white people do benefit from it.
Racism isn't the same thing as prejudice or bigotry. Racism is institutional. Racism is about the way people of different races are treated differently in the real world. Not about someone's feelings or preferences. Here in the US, as a white person, I am more likely to get jobs, loans, be able to buy a house, go to college, and less likely to get murdered by police, go to prison, be evicted, etc.
As a white person, I benefit from racism in our society even though I actively organize against racism in our society.
Not all white people are bigots in their hearts, but all white people benefit from racism.
Thats what we mean when we say "Fuck White People."
And "throwing shade" at people who say "not all white people" is a play on the meme of "not all men" which is a common misogynist response to women complaining about sexual violence. To say "not all men are rapists," while being a true statement, is not addressing the issue that almost all women are affected (whether directly a victim of it or not) by sexual violence. Similarly, all people of color are afforded less opportunity, because of the opportunity that is funneled towards white people in our racist society. So once again, the point is that, while you are correct that not all white people are bigots at heart, all white people benefit from racism.
They'll like guns, and wave guns around right up until one of them gets shot and killed, either by one of their own by accident or by an actual Nazi. Then it will be a repeat of that dread chick getting punched with them sperging out about how they were subjected to the violence they wanted to impose.
Guns will become bad again when they are used against them. If I were a betting man I would bet that the first AntiFa to get shot will be shot by one of their own with poor trigger discipline.
The super ironic thing is it may have been the case that they shot a guy who was actually pretty against Nazis. He even has an anti-Nazi tattoo by all accounts. Imagine that though, violent AntiFa attacking everyone they believe is a Nazi and causing harm to people who also are against Nazis.
Guns will become bad again when they are used against them. If I were a betting man I would bet that the first AntiFa to get shot will be shot by one of their own with poor trigger discipline.
That won't be what tears it. What tears it will be when some spaz on the right who got just enough army training to be trouble takes up a clocktower at Berkley and opens fire.
Because to say fuck white people, isn't saying fuck everyone who is white. We live in a white supremacist society. Its not that all white people are actively trying to enforce that hierarchy, but all white people do benefit from it.
Racism isnt the same thing as prejudice or bigotry. Racism is institutional. Racism is about the way people of different races are treated differently in the real world. Not about someone's feelings or preferences. Here in the US, as a white person, I am more likely to get jobs, loans, be able to buy a house, go to college, and less likely to get murdered by police, go to prison, be evicted, etc.
As a white person, I benefit from racism in our society even though I actively organize against racism in our society.
Not all white people are bigots in their hearts, but all white people benefit from racism.
Thats what we mean when we say "Fuck White People."
And "throwing shade" at people who say "not all white people" is a play on the meme of "not all men" which is a common misogynist response to women complaining about sexual violence. To say "not all men are rapists," while being a true statement, is not addressing the issue that almost all women are affected (whether directly a victim of it or not) by sexual violence. Similarly, all people of color are afforded less opportunity, because of the opportunity that is funneled towards white people in our racist society. So once again, the point is that, while you are correct that not all white people are bigots at heart, all white people benefit from racism.
A person who's 20, tops, trying to tell it like it is.
You can check the source in the OP. It's from Robert Williams, who apparently was an army veteran who later wrote a book detailing his experiences with the Civil Rights movement. You can say he lied if you like, but it's not as if there aren't plenty of chants involving the n-word from the 60s that can be dredged up for you.
I don't doubt that people in the sixties dropped more N-words than a Parkinson's patient holding an unabridged dictionary, but it's the very specific, not rhythmic, and not phonetic "pour gasoline on the niggers" that gets me.
I'm not really very bothered. Your original post insinuated it was made up. I'm telling you that we know who would have made it up, if it were made up. Do you think it's made up still?
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n/a explohd 2017-04-18
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n/a ReddCrowe 2017-04-18
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n/a MegaSeedsInYourBum 2017-04-18
Why would anyone tell lies on the internet like this?
n/a Forum_Rage 2017-04-18
Because Morgan Freeman. god tier troll
n/a MegaSeedsInYourBum 2017-04-18
This is actually great, thank you for this.
n/a cultish_alibi 2017-04-18
Not seeing race is racist. Morgan "Uncle Tom" Freeman needs to stay in his lane.
n/a Will0saurus 2017-04-18
wow ableist alert
n/a Ikea_Man 2017-04-18
CLAPS TO YOU SIR
n/a IanPatrick1966 2017-04-18
CLAPS TO YOU SIR
n/a GARBAGE_MACHINE 2017-04-18
please claps
n/a wwyzzerdd 2017-04-18
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y2V6yjjPbX0
n/a Works_of_memercy 2017-04-18
Did they mean, like, the STD?
n/a Ikea_Man 2017-04-18
almost definitely
n/a Ultrashitpost 2017-04-18
"fuck white people"
t. a sub that's 90% white people with an ideology that was constructed by 95% white people.
n/a michgot 2017-04-18
sir, commies may be white, but they aren't people
n/a polddit 2017-04-18
low effort m8
n/a MegaSeedsInYourBum 2017-04-18
Wow you're really being generous there. They're as white as a snowbank in Alaska. If IRL they are anything less than 99.5% white I'll actually be surprised.
n/a crimsonchibolt 2017-04-18
The only thing more white is rice coated in whip cream dipped in spunk.
n/a Bronafide 2017-04-18
They really should show the rest of us cumskins the way by starting the mayocide already
n/a respaaaaaj 2017-04-18
Tankies aren't people, so they're not white people.
n/a Sarge_Ward 2017-04-18
Whites aren't people either, so they're double not people.
n/a darth_stroyer 2017-04-18
That loops around to people again.
n/a 30blues 2017-04-18
n/a philoponeria 2017-04-18
Fuckin mayo.
n/a pizzashill 2017-04-18
http://slatestarcodex.com/2014/09/30/i-can-tolerate-anything-except-the-outgroup/
n/a Ultrashitpost 2017-04-18
I've read that article a while ago, but i never bothered to save it. Thanks!
n/a nmx179 2017-04-18
No you don't understand, they just mean the bad white people
Which is why they'll all burn when the glorious mayocide begins.
n/a donaldthelion 2017-04-18
u/SolidWookie I'm going to guess you're a mayo and a tankie so do the world a favor and kill yourself. Don't you find it odd that white people are so bad yet they have all sorts of poc's following them around wherever they go. When Asians or Africans or Muslims dream of a better life or immigrate its always a country full of mayos. Please explain how this is possible if whitey is so bad.
n/a VicePresidentJesus 2017-04-18
They immigrate because they think white people are the nicest and best people with the coolest haircuts.
n/a Chicup 2017-04-18
They aren't wrong.
n/a smeg_ 2017-04-18
So, when whites were going to where Asians, Africans etc lived and setting up homes, were they doing it because they loved them, or because they went for a better life?
Ya big dummy, crack open a history book
n/a donaldthelion 2017-04-18
You mean some white people moving in after colonization, yeah those are the same thing.
n/a baaaaby 2017-04-18
it is the same thing because immigration is colonization and genocide. take the red pill dummy
n/a zwiebelhans 2017-04-18
Lol of course they went there for a better life. One structured , promised and setup by other whites.
n/a smeg_ 2017-04-18
uh, no cleetus. It wasn't structured. They moved into the best arable lands, ethnically cleansing the people who used them for a millenia. They then used the victims as slave labor. Piece of garbage trumpanzee thinks white settlers and colonists set shit up LOL
n/a zwiebelhans 2017-04-18
Are you daft? I'm not justifying it morally or ethically. But what you just wrote there is definitely a structured and successful approach to colonization.
They took the arable land and enslaved the native people. They put in railroads, roads upgraded parts of cities to western standards. Established mail services. You know, building infrastructure beyond what was present. Made a fine place for the Mayos.
That is structured.
n/a wwyzzerdd 2017-04-18
/u/smeg_ is in fact, that dumb.
n/a Chris_Benoit_Daycare 2017-04-18
Kill yourself.
n/a projectedgeham666 2017-04-18
The point of Lebensraum is to move out the existing population, not live in their mud huts.
n/a ravencrowed 2017-04-18
erm, because the west (primarily white people gee isn't that funny) have been exploiting poorer countries (and using racism as an excuse) and stealing their wealth. In the past it was through direct colonialism, now it's through free market trade agreements.
here's one of many examples of the US bullying other countries to accept their goods
n/a blindcandyman 2017-04-18
So you are saying white nations dominated non white nations. Are you implying that white people are smarter than non white people because they can broker these deals that naturally are in their favor?
n/a donaldthelion 2017-04-18
You're right but you are extremely naive. What do you think was going on in the middle east before the white man, you think Islam just spread itself. You don't think African tribes weren't constantly at war, I mean it was tribes selling slaves to the west, white people weren't just snatching them up. Fighting and taking has been going on since the first humans. Whitey had better technology so whitey one. To pretend that these other groups wouldn't have done the same is silly. Whitey has brought science, medicine and technology throughout the world, and the countries are the most tolerant and accepting in the history of mankind.
n/a ravencrowed 2017-04-18
you sure are putting words into my mouth. Of course other non white people have exploited others. Doesn't make neo-colonialism right either.
n/a donaldthelion 2017-04-18
It's just reality, its been going on since the tribal days. The west isn't the only one who does it, check out what China is doing to Africa. At least when the west does it we try and build schools, roads, and services. For how bad the white man is the infrastructure of counties we've pressured sure does improve drastically.
n/a U2_is_gay 2017-04-18
Africans put their own people into slavery. The Muslim slave trade dwarfed the trans Atlantic trade.
This is in absolutely no way a justification or vindication for what Americans did. Rather that's just kinda the way the world was at the time. We were all a little bit shittier.
n/a timsboss 2017-04-18
Free trade is not exploitation.
n/a ravencrowed 2017-04-18
it is when one country is basically walmart and the others are mom and pop shops.
n/a timsboss 2017-04-18
We've already seen what happens when developing nations reject global trade, it isn't pretty. Walmart is better than mass starvation.
n/a Peetrius 2017-04-18
I was going to post a 70 page report on how free trade helped 1 billion people out of poverty, effectively cutting global poverty in half and allowed for incomes to rise for the entire world population, but then I read your entirely uninformed and oversimplified analogy and I realized how wrong all those (((globalists))) are.
n/a FTFallen 2017-04-18
Imagine being so far to the left even Krugman thinks your ideas on free trade are retarded.
n/a TraurigAberWahr 2017-04-18
omg haha
n/a We_Wuz 2017-04-18
Who said this nigger could speak
n/a ravencrowed 2017-04-18
Dad! look I said it again!
n/a We_Wuz 2017-04-18
where do you think you are right now
n/a 18aidanme 2017-04-18
Every country on Earth is imperialist, it just so happened that White people were the best at it.
n/a nmx179 2017-04-18
Yeah, Africa and India had sooooooo fucking much before white people showed up and stole everything lol
n/a autistitron 2017-04-18
Read a progressive history book, Africans were cosmic kings before whitey took their crowns and spaceships.
n/a headasplodes 2017-04-18
/u/rice_and_lentils yeah all those racist white people that participated in the civil rights movement
n/a OrangePeals 2017-04-18
Whites were bad in the 1960's. Buit then so is most of the world, Africans routinely genocide each other and so do Muslims. But you will never hear a tankie say "fuck black people" or "fuck muslims".
n/a registered2LOLatU 2017-04-18
But for though, fuck tankies.
n/a nicethingyoucanthave 2017-04-18
this, in spite of the fact that there are literally active slave markets going on the world right now, in the Current Year tm
There are blacks being enslaved by muslims: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/apr/10/libya-public-slave-auctions-un-migration
And there are whites being enslaved by muslims: http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/19/middleeast/nadia-murad-amal-clooney-cnntv/
Actual, for real, no-shit, slavery. But you wont hear anyone from /r/anarchism or any leftist for that matter, breathe a word of criticism for the slave masters. They might try to twist this into a "it's the white people's fault!" excuse, but they wont dare blame religion.
...on the other hand, there were some white people who were assholes about a swimming pool 50 years ago so ...FUCK WHITE PEOPLE!!
n/a Ultrashitpost 2017-04-18
It's one of the reasons i moved away from the left, as a former Muslim. Their fetish for Islam is something i cannot accept.
n/a nicethingyoucanthave 2017-04-18
It sucks because there's no place to go. I can't go to the right. Trump is a moron. They deny settled science and rational economic policy. I'm pro-choice, against any drug prohibition, and I think we have to institute basic income and social safety nets because soon (like real soon - as soon as driverless cars hit the market) we're going have massive unemployment. I'm a registered democrat, but basically, fuck democrats and fuck the left. They're violent bullies who are literally against the concept of free speech, which is just mind boggling to me.
n/a Chicup 2017-04-18
So does large numbers on the left, its just different science.
One of my favorite exchanges about this was with a woman who after Bush got reelected was in a minor fit and complained about creationism (dumb yes). She got offended when I pointed out she believed in palm reading (also dumb).
Hell many on the left try to say that there is no such thing as race, which is scientifically daft to anyone who understands genetics.
n/a nicethingyoucanthave 2017-04-18
That's very true.
My favorite example of science that the left denies is pretty much anything involving human behavior and genetics. Here's what I mean (archive). Paige Harden has a PhD in Clinical Psychology from the University of Virginia. She is an actual scientist. And yet, as she says in those tweets, leftists tell her that her work is "problematic" - not that she's wrong, oh no. Just that it's "problematic" and that it would be "good" if she stopped doing science.
The left is just as much anti-science as the right. They most definitely don't have the moral high ground here.
n/a siempreloco31 2017-04-18
There are very few genetic markers that account for race.
n/a Chicup 2017-04-18
And?
n/a siempreloco31 2017-04-18
lol what do you mean and?
n/a Chicup 2017-04-18
Soooo?
n/a siempreloco31 2017-04-18
le cluster
readings:
http://www.jstor.org/stable/682042?seq=1#page_scan_tab_contents
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3737365/
n/a Chicup 2017-04-18
Guy says adaptive traits for race are not defined, THEREFORE they don't exist? Really?
Anyways..
http://psycnet.apa.org/psycinfo/2007-01201-000
http://www.nature.com/ng/journal/v36/n11s/full/ng1435.html?iframe=true&width=100%&%20rel=
Anyways I could keep going with google if you like. In medicine we know there are differences in races with various diseases, growth patterns, etc. Race as "black, white, asian, whatever" are social constructs to an extent, but the problem is we base it socially on ONE aspect.
n/a siempreloco31 2017-04-18
Difficult to prove traits if they aren't defined well.
The problem with clustering is that the programs like STRUCTURE that utilize it will spit out clusters regardless of statistical significance.
Differences in patterns of diseases within race does not imply it is genetic.
n/a MRB2012 2017-04-18
No it's not. Race is not a genetic classification, and never has been. It's a class classification. There's no scientific standard for "black," but there are social mores governing who gets to call themselves "black" or "white."
n/a Mort_DeRire 2017-04-18
Embrace neoliberalism. We are the best.
n/a JoeFalchetto 2017-04-18
Uncle Milty welcomes you with open arms.
n/a atakeonhooper 2017-04-18
Dont feminists talk about white slavery all the time?
n/a wwyzzerdd 2017-04-18
All they really mean is "male oppression".
n/a nicethingyoucanthave 2017-04-18
nope. They talk about sex trafficking, by which they mean, evil white people victimizing women of color.
n/a atakeonhooper 2017-04-18
that's what white slavery means
i wasnt talking about the regular kind of slavery, which i agree doesn't have enough profile in political discourse
n/a Eitdgwlgo 2017-04-18
I think the main difference is that those groups still are actively engaged in killing each other.
n/a MRB2012 2017-04-18
Hell, Great Lakes Africans routinely eat each other.
n/a Dial_A_Dragon 2017-04-18
I'm amazed he doesn't realise if most whites 'were that bad', the civil rights movement wouldn't have succeeded. But then again, he does hang around on r@, so he probably doesn't have much up top.
n/a rice_and_lentils 2017-04-18
A study came out recently which asked whether you'd be upset if a member of your family had an interracial marriage. About 20% of white people said yes. This is white people in 2017.
What percentage of white people in the 1960s thought that it would be better if blacks stuck to their own swimming pools?
This article has some interesting demographics.
Notably:
At the time, a plurality of whites did support the Civil Rights Act (possibly a slight majority, but the article only says that 1 month after passage a slight majority supported, but leading up to it "there was support", the article isn't super clear).
Anyway, you might be interested in reading a little bit about the Civil Rights movement. It was largely organized by black churches, and while some white people did get involved at large events like the March on Washington and the Selma march, the movement was mostly a struggle between grassroots bands of black people and local white police/militia/citizens.
n/a IWaaasPiiirate 2017-04-18
Source for the recent study?
n/a Cloughtower 2017-04-18
I found this one from 2009:
http://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2012/02/16/chapter-4-public-attitudes-on-intermarriage/
n/a IWaaasPiiirate 2017-04-18
Interesting. It looks like it's old people skewing the data. Under 50 you see acceptance in the 80+%
n/a rice_and_lentils 2017-04-18
I got the thought from this article. The article itself purports to claim that Republicans lag behind Democrats in terms of various metrics which gauge acceptance of non-white races, particularly black people. That's not what I'm citing though. In particular, I'm citing this data:
Since about 90% of the Republican party is non-Hispanic white, and only about 60% of the Democratic party is non-Hispanic white, the numbers average out to about 20.4% among white people who are either Republican or Democrat affiliated.
It's possible that among white people who are not Democratic or Republican affiliated, the numbers are much lower and thus bring it down, but that seems unlikely. It seems like the number for moderates would fall between that of Democrats and Republicans. So we'd expect the number to be somewhere around 20.4, give or take a couple percentage points.
This data isn't perfect, however. Also, I couldn't find the source of the raw data. I'm assuming it came from the full collection of data from the GSS, but I didn't want to download that and dig all the way through it so I didn't vet it. It doesn't seem to be listed in the highlighted trends.
Side note: one thing which is included in the highlighted trends is that 11% of whites would actually favor a law banning interracial marriage.
n/a wwyzzerdd 2017-04-18
KILL WHITEY NOW!!!!!
n/a jombeesuncle 2017-04-18
If there are a lot of black people moving into your neighborhood, it's going to shit. That's true in 2017 just as it was in 1963.
Disagree? Show me 1 decent black neighborhood in the USA. Just one predominantly black peaceful neighborhood. Just one, I'll wait.
n/a rice_and_lentils 2017-04-18
See, this is the issue. Could you explain to me why it is exactly that black people turn all neighborhoods into shit?
You have a theory. When black people move into a neighborhood, it turns into shit. Can you explain why that is?
n/a jombeesuncle 2017-04-18
I think it's because they're held to lower standards. The racism of low expectations.
Tolerate the same deviance in acceptable behavior and they'll act the same as everybody else.
White trash moves into the neighborhood and the locals don't tolerate their shit. Black trash moves in and the first person to say anything is branded racist. The black people are able to get away with whatever they want because they have and play the race card where a white person doing the same thing would feel social pressure to either get the fuck out of the neighborhood or act like a civilized person.
n/a rice_and_lentils 2017-04-18
I never thought about it that way. What about black people is uncivilized though? Can you explain?
n/a jombeesuncle 2017-04-18
Inherently? Nothing, they're just people like you or me. Sociologically, I don't know. Why do poor people do stupid shit? Why do poor people feel the need to be taken care of? Why do poor people dislike education or those who are educated?
I grew up poor, from a poor farming family that's been in this country since the 1620s. Most of my family is like this, they're white trash. Luckily my mom pushed self reliance and thinking things through for my entire life. Hell my brother is a god damn socialist who thinks the state should take care of people who don't want to work.
The honest answer though is I don't know. That's not my area of expertise it's just 37 years of observation.
n/a We_Wuz 2017-04-18
fucking hell, even when its the niggers fault its still whitey's fault
n/a jombeesuncle 2017-04-18
If you challenge people, they'll usually stand up to the challenge. If you just let them wallow, they'll stagnate forever.
n/a We_Wuz 2017-04-18
translation
n/a nmx179 2017-04-18
No, you tell me your consultation nonsense explanation. Make sure to mention redlining lol.
n/a autistitron 2017-04-18
If you mean this then white people are still more accepting than others unless you're cherry picking people 50+ which is dumb.
n/a MRB2012 2017-04-18
So 20% of white people are somewhat bigoted, though not necessarily racist?
Because anarchists love church.
n/a atakeonhooper 2017-04-18
i think many white people acted like most other groups that are powerful--some stridently oppose, some stridently support, most just didn't think about it.
n/a rice_and_lentils 2017-04-18
That's probably true, especially of Whites living in the Northern states. For Whites living in the Southern states, racial tension was probably a fairly significant part of their life. Most of them opposed.
n/a wwyzzerdd 2017-04-18
KILL WHITEY NOW!!!
n/a newcomer_ts 2017-04-18
You will never get autism to be recognized as qualifying achievement for MENSA.
Every time you conflate culture with skin colour, a social justice fairy dies a horrific death.
This guy just murdered a whole bunch of them
n/a ThatGaymer 2017-04-18
Thank god, I thought calling that woman a nigger might have been racism.
n/a MegaSeedsInYourBum 2017-04-18
Definition of Racism: 3. Racial prejudice or discrimination
n/a headasplodes 2017-04-18
It's truly incredible how many people have bought into something so blatantly false.
n/a CucksLoveTrump 2017-04-18
Kinda like Pizzagate!
n/a lesboautisticweeabo 2017-04-18
/u /solidwookie
Why does your 'movement' use such racism as you yourself used? Are u no better than nazis?
n/a registered2LOLatU 2017-04-18
MAYOCIDE WHEN
n/a NecessaryPiglet 2017-04-18
When average /r/Anarchism users decides he can take on an actual skinhead. They'll wipe each other out.
n/a registered2LOLatU 2017-04-18
I think too look forward to you ideal world where the skinheads rule. You realize that is the result, right, not even being ironic here.
n/a bleepis 2017-04-18
theyre not wrong. mayocide is the only way we can improve this god-forsaken country
n/a headasplodes 2017-04-18
Dude mayocide lmao
n/a Eastergecko 2017-04-18
This, but ironically
n/a subpoutine 2017-04-18
This, but genocidally.
n/a NecessaryPiglet 2017-04-18
ssh, if we use this meme enough we might confuse the lolcows
n/a JakeArrietaGrande 2017-04-18
this, but unironically
n/a Mexagon 2017-04-18
Lol now you faggots like guns. Oh honey you have a ways to learn.
n/a MegaSeedsInYourBum 2017-04-18
They'll like guns, and wave guns around right up until one of them gets shot and killed, either by one of their own by accident or by an actual Nazi. Then it will be a repeat of that dread chick getting punched with them sperging out about how they were subjected to the violence they wanted to impose.
Guns will become bad again when they are used against them. If I were a betting man I would bet that the first AntiFa to get shot will be shot by one of their own with poor trigger discipline.
n/a IsADragon 2017-04-18
Didn't some dipshit on the right already shoot someone? Or was it that he just waved his gun around or something.
n/a MegaSeedsInYourBum 2017-04-18
One did back in January. The police finished their investigation last week and the DA will have to make a decision whether to prosecute anyone.
The super ironic thing is it may have been the case that they shot a guy who was actually pretty against Nazis. He even has an anti-Nazi tattoo by all accounts. Imagine that though, violent AntiFa attacking everyone they believe is a Nazi and causing harm to people who also are against Nazis.
n/a MRB2012 2017-04-18
That won't be what tears it. What tears it will be when some spaz on the right who got just enough army training to be trouble takes up a clocktower at Berkley and opens fire.
n/a FULLM3TALBITCH 2017-04-18
A person who's 20, tops, trying to tell it like it is.
n/a Ennui2778 2017-04-18
That is a very, very specific and hard to coordinate chant.
D-do you think it may have been made up?
n/a rice_and_lentils 2017-04-18
You can check the source in the OP. It's from Robert Williams, who apparently was an army veteran who later wrote a book detailing his experiences with the Civil Rights movement. You can say he lied if you like, but it's not as if there aren't plenty of chants involving the n-word from the 60s that can be dredged up for you.
n/a Ennui2778 2017-04-18
I don't doubt that people in the sixties dropped more N-words than a Parkinson's patient holding an unabridged dictionary, but it's the very specific, not rhythmic, and not phonetic "pour gasoline on the niggers" that gets me.
n/a rice_and_lentils 2017-04-18
So Robert Williams is a liar?
n/a Ennui2778 2017-04-18
So you're getting booty-bothered for no good reason.
n/a rice_and_lentils 2017-04-18
I'm not really very bothered. Your original post insinuated it was made up. I'm telling you that we know who would have made it up, if it were made up. Do you think it's made up still?
n/a Ennui2778 2017-04-18
I think it's sensationalized, poorly remembered, and that you should delete yourself.
n/a grafton29 2017-04-18
Is not really surprising that very racist people in the 60s would scream racist things during a tense race related event.
n/a niggerpenis 2017-04-18
pour gasoline on the mayos
n/a SlavophilesAnonymous 2017-04-18
No, it can be rhythmic. See, it's:
Kill-the-nig-gers
Kill-the-nig-gers
Pour-ga-sol-ine
On-the-nig-gers
n/a poopy_ass 2017-04-18
Why do people engage these morons?
n/a DistortedLines 2017-04-18
Ayy you know they're right tho
n/a newcomer_ts 2017-04-18
Best revenge is living well
n/a StopTalkingOK 2017-04-18
BASH
n/a SnackBier 2017-04-18
StopTalkingOK@STOK-PC:~$█
n/a U2_is_gay 2017-04-18
Did anyone point out the irony?
n/a ebdragon 2017-04-18
Anarchists are the worst people
n/a nmx179 2017-04-18
I like how racism redefiners like u/evolutionfire act like prejudice and bigotry are totally chill as long as you don't call them racism, lmao
n/a cincilator 2017-04-18
In what way was that thing at Berkeley a blowout? I haven't paid much attention.