The ACLU is disappointed in UC Berkeley's on-again-off-again relationship with Ann Coulter, milquetoast beards and feminists get pissy in response.

148  2017-04-27 by letumblrfaec

Alternate title: "Wow! To think I donated to this group to protect my rights as an American... how dare they defend my rights as an American!"

The tl;dr of the events leading up to this is that UC Berkeley (the school that felt the need to riot over fucking Milo Yeeyeeasshaircut) allowed Ann Coulter to speak, then cancelled her talk, then allowed her to talk again but without any sort of extra protection which then lead to her cancelling for good.

Because if it's not a fruity flameout that the school considers riot-worthy, it's apparently a crotchety conservative cunt too.

The ACLU, which already pissed off SJWs by siding with Milo back in February, pissed them off again earlier tonight when they sent out a press release and a tweet basically slapping the wrist of UC Berkeley in response to how the school had a very hands-off approach with her wanting to come and talk.

There's a ton of juicy material in reply to this ACLU tweet explaining what a "heckler's veto" is (numerous NO MORE DONATIONS FOR YOU posts), but here are some highlights from some of the ACLU's other tweets:

Nathan "will fuck for five stars" Grayson is disappointed and thinks about pulling his donations. He later posts that the ACLU upholding civil liberties for every American is "a comically bad hill to die on."

Random pink haired twit says that all conservatives think trans people are animals.

Bob "Moviebob" Chipman can't differentiate between protests and threats of violence, deletes the tweet in shame soon after.

Internet feminist star Shanley Kane (check out her ED page lol) with a very eloquent reply.

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Knee-jerk reactions is all that's going to be picked up on this. Someone who doesn't give a shit or continues donating them anyway isn't news worthy enough to report on.

After the autistshrieking dies down you'll see an even stronger organization from the number of increased donations. As shit and tough of a political situation there is right now, orgs like SPLC and ACLU are raking in huge amounts of volutes and money. Safeguarding legal protections and rights can be lucrative, but they'll need it; legal defense isn't cheap

If anything the fact the ACLU remains convicted to protecting even unsavory voices against tyranny will probably make me donate more.

And I hate Mann Coulter.

Same. A lotta LGBT people are protected by free speech and freedom of expression. I'll fucking cut anyone that puts that at risk.

Yeah honestly I see where the """SJWS""" are coming from but I'm with the ACLU on this mostly. Just fucking ignore her.

>b-but ignoring them doesn't work!

I dunno, it worked for most crazies and provocateurs throughout history. Why would Ann fucking Coulter be any goddamn different?

Why would Ann fucking Coulter be any goddamn different?

because she's objectively correct and deep down the crazies know it.

Ann Coulter is a lot of things, but correct isn't one of them, what is she correct about in your view?

blondes can be intelligent and they have more fun

Do they have more fun? Really?

ann coulter is beloved by a ton of people, it doesn't matter if you think they are ignorant or not

saying ann coulter is inncorrect about literally everything she's ever said is silly

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nit-Fr9qJtM

she's a strong independent women who if you think all the sterotypes about her are true would be surprised by her dating history, some of what she says is literally trolling for attention but if you want to learn about what she is correct about i'd suggest one of her books ( If you can get through it without feeling how much more superior you are from any one who would read her books without suffering a case of terminal smugness)

M8, Ann coulter is blatantly learning disabled. Here are some more coulter gems:

Here's her being an SJW and trying to call someone a sexist, gets called on it, has no response.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNBkc3D-VTg

Here's her not even knowing which country we're bombing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzZlFCqMpOA

M8, Ann coulter is blatantly learning disabled.

all your doing is the debate tech called spreading where you talk about things i'm not talking about

Trump has given up on the wall

No he hasn't

Now months latter

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/856849388026687492

These sex charges are only being brought up due to the election

has President Trump been 'Bill Clintoned" yet?

People are voting for Trump because of the issues not his personal life

Democats want to attack trump instead of having an issue driven campaign

she said this before the 3rd debates

Bernie would have been a harder fight because of these specific issues the Democrats were weak on

Trump has given up on the wall

Are you out of your fucking mind? Do you think Trump tweeting something means he's going to do it?

The wall is done, congress isn't going to fund it, we've already established this.

has President Trump been 'Bill Clintoned" yet?

No idea what you're talking about.

she said this before the 3rd debates

LOL, what issue did Trump have dude? What viable solution did he offer to anyone? Clinton put out more in relation to policy than Donald Trump could dream of.

Here's the problem - Trump was willing to fluff reality for a bunch of stupid rural people, Hillary wasn't. Trump declaring he'd "fix everything" and citing made up problems made those people feel good, Hillary telling them they have to change didn't make them feel good.

Bernie would have been a harder fight because of these specific issues the Democrats were weak on

WHAT ISSUES. What issues dude? Do you have any idea how stupid this is? I see why you think ann Coulter is credible, you're just retarded and misinformed on everything you believe.

WHAT ISSUES. What issues dude?

if only

if only i had linked a youtube video where an coulter talks about this

if only

What viable solution did he offer to anyone?

you really have no idea do you for the reasons people voted for him

congress isn't going to fund it, we've already established this.

funny way of spelling Mexico

Trump was willing to fluff reality for a bunch of stupid rural people,

right of course everyone who doesn't agree with you is a stupid hick, if only they were as intelligent as you

I see why you think ann Coulter is credible, you're just a highly misinformed person and delusional.

REEEEEE

if only i had linked a youtube video where ann coulter talks about this

Listen, nothing Ann Coulter said is based in reality dude.

you really have no idea do you for the reasons people voted for him

I know exactly why people voted for him.

Economic illiteracy.

Delusions about immigration.

A misunderstanding of how terrorism works or what kind of response it requires.

Basically, just low information voters.

funny way of spelling Mexico

If Mexico is going to fund that wall, why is Trump asking for funding from congress?

right of course everyone who doesn't agree with you is a stupid hick, if only they were as intelligent as you

No, tons of smart people disagree with me, but anyone that agrees with Trump on any number of things he says is either stupid or misinformed, provably.

No, tons of smart people disagree with me, but anyone that agrees with Trump on any number of things he says is either stupid or misinformed, provably.

/u/the_reason_trump_won

i get it everyone who is on the other team is bad because they aren't on your team

maybe once you grow up a little you'll understand just how bigoted and ignorant you are acting

You seem to be highly confused here dude. This has nothing to do with teams, or political parties.

I didn't feel this way about Romney, I didn't feel this way about Bush, I didn't believe their voters to be stupid or misinformed people.

But in the case of Trump? The man is objectively wrong about nearly every god damn thing he says, this is a fact.

I'm not going to coddle people that are provably wrong, and don't care that they're wrong because people like you want to throw words like "bigot" around.

If you believe that free trade is bad for our economy? You are wrong, no matter what, you are wrong, the empirical research says you are wrong and that isn't going to change based on your personal opinions.

If you believe immigration is bad for our economy? You are wrong. The empirical research says you are wrong, and that isn't going to change based on your personal opinions.

If you think "bombing the shit out of terrorists" is a viable strategy for combatting global terrorism, you are wrong, the empirical data says that you are wrong and that is not going to change base don your personal opinion.

If me telling people that are wrong that they're wrong is the reason Trump won, then so be it, because I'd rather be right than delusional.

http://i.imgur.com/8PfHlcW.jpg

then so be it, because I'd rather be right than delusional.

if Trump wasn't right he wouldn't have won silly, he won the election

youre the out of touch loser, who's still upset about it 5 months after the election

get over it

like you get your the one who asked things ann coulter was correct about and now are sperging out about Trump voters and reee how dumb she is

why did you even ask if you were just going to smug post about how better you are then half of america

if Trump wasn't right he wouldn't have won silly, he won the election

Based on what? Have you ever heard of: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argumentum_ad_populum

youre the out of touch loser, who's still upset about it 5 months after the election

Out of touch, also known as being scientifically literate.

why did you even ask if you were just going to smug post about how better you are then half of america

When did I say I was better than anyone?

Based on what?

On the election

also known as being scientifically literate.

Your so brave and smarter then everyone who disagrees with you over politics don't smug yourself to death

Like your quoting Wikipedia because every idiot doesn't know what argument to popularity is?

learn what the debate term called spreading is and why it shows off you dumb you are

i get you think you've "won" by trying to desperately turn the conversation away from what we were actually talking about

you went from Ann Coulter to REEEEing about Trump in what 2 posts?

Alright, you clearly have a learning disability, sorry to have bothered you.

Yes, it's okay to give yourself an out because you can't ever possibly be wrong about something.

maybe next time before you post for an entire hour watch a 10minute video so you don't like so retarded and actually know what the conversation is about

Just look at his posting history dude, you were never going to have a constructive conversation. It was still worthwhile though, because it exposed how much of a retard this guy is.

Do you think Trump tweeting something means he's going to do it?

the question was, has he given up on it

Considering he said he'd sign a budget with no wall funding, that wall is never getting built.

maybe. but the question was: did he give up on it?

When you say you'll sign a budget with no wall, you aren't pushing a wall.

The fact he folded this easily should tell you he's done with the wall.

kinda naive view of politics and negotiation in general.

Is it wrong that I would fuck the shit out of her? Like I know she's got a big beak nose, and mannish face, and is the human equivalent to this. I love me some T H I N N girls.

But that just makes me want her more. Like to hate fuck her at least once I think would be awesome.

My problem with this is she didn't base this on any actual facts, data, or understanding of the election, she wanted Trump to win, so said he would.

And this doesn't change the fact she's a highly misinformed moron that constantly says absurd shit.

bro have you never read a self-help book? That's how that shit works.

fake it till you make it is a gigantic fat meme and people realize it when they never "make it" and just lie about making it

Ann Coulter is a white woman, it's mathematically impossible for her to be correct

implying there's a not retarded side in this culture war shit

implying that the sides constantly switch which one is retarded like some sort of pre-arrangement

because she's objectively correct

lol

Ann Coulter has always been a retarded cunt. The only thing that's changed is that the left has it's own retarded cunts.

dude this isn't new

have you ever heard of cynthia mckinney

About everything she's ever said? What specifically? This is an awful comment.

r/drama is full of those!

I'll fill your sub with awful comments bby

granted, it didnt work for like, hitler, but this isnt hitler

Wasn't Hitler elected partly because people were fucking tired of fash vs commie riots in every-fucking-where in Germany and he promised to take care of it?

Hitler definitely wasn't ignored, a lot of shit was done trying to stop him: banning brown shirts, banning SS and SA, street riots, assassination(s?).
But tbh it's all commies fault.

i remember reading differently for the overall population but i know that there were also people who were against him from day one?

Hitler was looking for power, Ann Coulter, Milo, any number of these shock jocks are just boring old attention whores.

You starve them of attention and they go away.

cant we just starve them, like, in general

Start small with ignoring their cries for media pull.

Just fucking ignore her.

It literally worked for the Westboro Baptist. Remember when they were the boogeyman on Reddit and everywhere else? A "church" of like 15 people and these idiots could NOT stop giving them attention. Now you don't hear about them at all. And why should you when everyone who even minorly disagrees is alt right, trump supporting fascist.

And if you defend yourself from their ad hominems they just double down on them and/or downvote you (not like downvotes have ever meant jackshit on this site but its still telling).

I can't be too mad though, I was 19 once. One year removed from high school thinking I had the world alllllll figured out (OMG AGEISM!) the only difference now is, these people have echo chambers and hundreds if not thousands of "Friends" mirroring the same sentiment so they're less likely to grow out of it. Or if their parent does tell them they're being stupid then we get get infamous cases like this.

Yeah honestly I see where the """SJWS""" are coming from

lol why, all theyre doing is crying because they dont like whats being said

its not like it threatens or endangers them

Ann Coulter is a zero effort shitposter. I've seen better bait on /b/ than the tripe she posts.

It's not threatening or endangering sure, but it doesn't have to do those things to be annoying. They're allowed to complain about her speech, just not threaten violence over it.

they can complain sure

but they conflate complaining and protesting with no platforming and screaming over the top of them and pulling fire alarms etc etc

Yes exactly, this is my complaint too. You'll find no disagreement from me about this.

Ann Coulter is a zero effort shitposter. I've seen better bait on /b/ than the tripe she posts.

And yet hipsters around the globe start literally shaking when they hear her name. I mean yeah, offending west coast phonies is the easiest thing I can think of, but you can't deny that if she's a troll, she's among the most successful in the world.

you said it yourself, it's not hard to be the best shot in the west when you're literally shooting fish in a barrel with a shotgun

Yeah honestly I see where the """SJWS""" are coming from but I'm with the ACLU on this mostly. Just fucking ignore her.

>b-but ignoring them doesn't work!

I dunno, it worked for most crazies and provocateurs throughout history. Why would Ann fucking Coulter be any goddamn different?

If these kids knew their history then they would know that the ACLU have defended actual Nazis in the past. Ann Coulter is a see-you-next-Tuesday (said in a sassy southern voice) but she deserves her right to free speech as long as it isn't inciting violence.

and the klan, and the tea party, and rush limbaugh

and most sickeningly, the Washington fucking Redskins

smdh. when will they learn America's Team will always prevail?

That's why we lucked out with ol boy Dak

The Red Sox?

More like the Washington Cumskins

More like Washington darkies.

More like the Washington slants

Meh. Fuck the natives.

people have the right to say whatever they want without being literally murdered, but other people have the right to say "shut the fuck up" in response. if a public institution decides theyd rather not deal with a shit ton of reporters and interruptions on campus and the like, it only makes sense that theyd uninvite her as they did originally. the government isnt doing any actual censorship here. its super inconvenient for a school to be swamped by protests/counterprotests and reporters and the like

pretty clear you're not an american

i'm american but also i'm a gigantic retard that doesn't know how anything works

It's ok. Retards are welcome here.

its good to know i have a safe space

They're the bread and butter of /r/drama in fact

Did you just assume my sandwich ingredients?

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A moldy oldie!

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I would go so far as to say encouraged to post

i'm american but also i'm a gigantic retard

pretty common tbqhwyf

One could argue the words are synonymous.

Why'd you write American twice?

its funny because its true

Public institution has to follow the Constitution retard. If all the other groups can get a speaker so can the Conservative group who wanted her there. They have to follow that

im sure the ACLU does. also you're right and i am wrong. pls chill. granted i'm still of the opinion that i don't blame the school for cancelling her to save themselves the trouble, but ultimately they changed their minds about that and she still didn't come and that's nobodys fault but her own.

They changed their minds cause they would get in trouble

And I guess Ann is going now. If there wasn't such a blow up about this I would not have even of known it was happening. These protesters are retarded and are bringing more attention to it

you're right and i am wrong

well that's a phrase I don't see often on Reddit

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Public institution has to follow the Constitution retard since they are funded by State and Federal government.

Not exactly. Public universities have to follow the Constitution because they ARE part of the state government. Funding has nothing to do with it; otherwise private universities that receive federal funding (i.e., 99% of them) would also be obligated to respect the first amendment.

Of course, the federal govt could condition eligibility to receive federal funds on first-amendment compliance (in the same way that federal highway funds are conditioned on the state adopting a drinking age of 21), which would extend its protections to those private schools as well. Many civil libertarians have proposed doing just this.

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you can say shut the fuck up but you cant just yell over them or react physically while youre doing it

as long as it isn't inciting violence against specific groups.

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I think few upvotees may have misunderstood my fix.

I was saying as long as he, Ann Coulter is inciting violence against specific groups and NOT against some other ones but also very specific, he’s golden.

The crux of it all being, just make sure you target those not holding the power and you get “hero of the free speech” award. Change your target unwisely, and you get set to hell.

You mean the (((Jews))), don't you?

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Oh shit, TIL.

Oh yeah if they went after (((people))) they'd get destroyed

I meant [[[Mexicans]]]... I never heard Coulter saying anything negative about them.

Well of course she hasn't cuz racism doesn't exist in America. Duh!

And even if she wanted to say something hateful toward Mexicans, it is still Ann’s freedom of speech to say it.

well she doesn't like any immigrants and she was obviously always on trump's dick whenever someone called him out for being racist

but besides that she said some retarded shit about Mexican culture being deficient, which is like the most irrelevant thing you could blame Mexico's problems on, and said you can't be racist against Mexicans bc they're not black (which is particularly odd considering how convinced she is that everythinh is racist against white people)

Why is it always [[[immigrants]]] but never (((immigrants))) ?

because US jews don't immigrate, they emigrate

But they start shit and join gangs, no?

I think you're just thinking of Italians there, they're real the real scumbazzi.

It's an easy mistake to make: they both talk with their hands and run banking cartels, and all the pizzabagels in New Jersey really blur the lines

Hey now, we love {{{Italians}}} now.... especially those who put Italy first, spend their whole life dreaming about living in Italy, working for the benefit of Italy and only help Italian community, have dual passports.

Don you question {{{Italians}}} loyalty to America.

I have nothing but respect for the goombas. {{{Papa John}}} is an American hero

{{{Papa John}}} is an American hero

I did notice a lot of righ-twing {{{Italians}}} are getting respect lately.

Um... so you're basically saying that white people shouldn't have anybody defending their rights? Please tell me you're only pretending to be a retarded bigot.

I know first hand how hard it is to be white in America don't worry

This is why trump will win 2020. Thanks

Because it's easier to be a white man than anything else yet we are get triggered at the thought of someone having it harder than us?

Smugly stereotyping entire groups smh.

Enjoy the 8 years of trump.

I forgot feels over reals

So just speaking non-sequitur cliches now. ok.

Uhmm, can't hug your children with nuclear arms.

Would you like to tell me why white people have it so bad in America instead of making no point at all?

Would you like to tell me why you stereotype and prejudice an entire group of people, rather then making no point at all?

Because I'm white and can recognize my life is easier than minorities because I'm not a total retard.

Oh shit, I forgot that you were the emperor and grand decider of all white people, my bad.

Well Obama became president, so that means all racism is over since one individual from a group managed to do good.

Good god, you self centered narcassistic bigotted dumbshit. Think outside your own experience for once, rather then assuming everyone has the same experience as you.

Also never claimed white people had it easier or worse then minorities. I called you a bigot for stereotyping a while group you stupid fuck. Try forming coherent posts rather then regurgitating cliche phrases.

Wow had to respond back 7 minutes later with another post. Why are you so upset faggot?

Lol, trying to act all cool now using hateful words like faggot after being called out for being retarded lol.

Okay I didn't realize you are actually autistic I'll leave you alone now bud

Lol. Sad, but what can expected from a racist, homophobic hypocritical dumbass.

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Nah, it's easier to be a women than anything else.

You don't need to fix shit. My posts are always perfect.

When read unironically, I suppose?

Why does Berkley have to provide her a platform though? I mean if Ann Coulter wanted to just walk around on campus unannounced and talk to people or hold up signs I assume she could just do that. Why are they obligated to provide her a time slot for an auditorium?

Because they are a public university so they have to follow the first amendment. Them refusing Ann purely based on her views would be like any other governmental institution refusing someone based on their views

I really don't understand how campus liberals are this stupid.

Literally all you have to do is ignore these people and they'll stop showing up, the only reason they show up to these places is because they know it'll trigger the campus legbeards into a frenzy and provide months of material for their bullshit "liberal fascists" articles they spam all over alt-media.

For a lot of them? Probably. Many of them major in a subject that is more dogmatic than academic. A decent portion of them probably have "street cred" (internet fame) riding on the fact that they loudly and/or violently oppose anything/anyone that is to the right of their politics.

Well beyond that, if you actually go to Berkeley you quickly find out that a lot of them are random losers/hippies or liberal arts majors from other schools.

They just go to Berkeley because it was a political Hotspot in the 70s.

bullshit "liberal fascist" articles

to be fair it's hardly bullshit at this point

No, it's pretty bullshit on pretty much every possible level.

Campus crazies screaming at you for being a racist isn't fascism.

The racial voter suppression?

Not real

The attempts to write religion into law and enforce your religious views on people?

Barely real

Barely real

actually real tho. also your flaw is that sjw's fear doing any actual violence because their 949348 mental disorders and disabilities will be irritated if they have to do anything aside from scream and call people nazis

sjw's fear doing any actual violence

lmfao are you retarded antifa beats little girls for wearing bitcoin hats

http://abc7news.com/news/uc-berkeley-blames-masked-individuals-for-violence/1735243/

http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2017/02/14/berkeley-teacher-in-the-spotlight-after-condoning-violent-uc-berkeley-protest/ http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-berkeley-alt-right-20170417-story.html

http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/01/us/milo-yiannopoulos-berkeley/

etc et al

"fear any actual violence"

“He should not be allowed to speak in public, to spread his racist, misogynistic and homophobic lies. He does not have the right to do that,” she said.

she said about the gay man who prefers black tops

Felarca is the same teacher who was briefly suspended by the Berkeley Unified School District after cellphone video captured her throwing punches at a man holding a neo-Nazi flag at a protest last summer.

retarded antifa beats little girls for wearing bitcoin hats

no they just pepper sprayed her in literally the most ironic way possible

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x643kcoc8FU

she said about the gay man who prefers black tops

*the degenerate that advocates pedophilia

degenerate

i still can't decide if i'm more surprised by this word or cuck coming back into fashion cuck at least had what, the mediveail memes

Yeah! What a piece of shit that guy is for being messed up in the head and being like every other victim of childhood sexual abuse that gets convinced that what they're doing is completely fine and natural. What a degenerate!

Doesn't change that he was encouraging pedophilia.

There's another video like the one you linked where a girl has her back to a metal divider and someone from antifa hits her in the head with a pole then when she took a step towards them they pepperspray her.

antifa isnt sjws

Lmao, ready for this?

Not real

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/07/29/the-smoking-gun-proving-north-carolina-republicans-tried-to-disenfranchise-black-voters/

In particular, the court found that North Carolina lawmakers requested data on racial differences in voting behaviors in the state. "This data showed that African Americans disproportionately lacked the most common kind of photo ID, those issued by the Department of Motor Vehicles (DMV)," the judges wrote.

So the legislators made it so that the only acceptable forms of voter identification were the ones disproportionately used by white people. "With race data in hand, the legislature amended the bill to exclude many of the alternative photo IDs used by African Americans," the judges wrote. "The bill retained only the kinds of IDs that white North Carolinians were more likely to possess."

Most strikingly, the judges point to a "smoking gun" in North Carolina's justification for the law, proving discriminatory intent. The state argued in court that "counties with Sunday voting in 2014 were disproportionately black" and "disproportionately Democratic," and said it did away with Sunday voting as a result.

"Thus, in what comes as close to a smoking gun as we are likely to see in modern times, the State’s very justification for a challenged statute hinges explicitly on race — specifically its concern that African Americans, who had overwhelmingly voted for Democrats, had too much access to the franchise," the judges write in their decision.

Clearly, not real, unless you ask the federal courts. How do you think the GOP got a consent decree against them?

https://electionlawblog.org/?p=85289

Even if those things were 100% real they would be less fascist than getting hit in the head with a metal pipe for not believing there's 30000 genders

Should we go take a look at the terrorist attacks carried out or planned by right wing tards/Trump tards?

congrats on your wapo article, kys tbh

Dude, did you even read that article?

That's a federal court ruling you complete moron.

Most strikingly, the judges point to a "smoking gun" in North Carolina's justification for the law, proving discriminatory intent. The state argued in court that "counties with Sunday voting in 2014 were disproportionately black" and "disproportionately Democratic," and said it did away with Sunday voting as a result.

"Thus, in what comes as close to a smoking gun as we are likely to see in modern times, the State’s very justification for a challenged statute hinges explicitly on race — specifically its concern that African Americans, who had overwhelmingly voted for Democrats, had too much access to the franchise," the judges write in their decision.

The ID part wasn't what they got busted on, it's the fact they literally put an end to early voting because the counties with high numbers of early voters happened to be black and democratic.

This isn't even getting into the gerrymandering:

http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/03/11/519839892/federal-court-rules-three-texas-congressional-districts-illegally-drawn

A panel of federal judges ruled on Friday that three of Texas' congressional districts are illegal, violating the Constitution and the Voting Rights Act. The panel found that Republicans had used race as a motivating factor in redistricting.

Dude, did you even read that article

Fuck no whatever you'e trying to use to justify hurting people because they don't agree with you I literally don't care about

At no point did I justify hurting anyone, I called you on your bullshit, you tried to claim I was wrong, and then I proved you wrong with multiple federal court rulings.

maybe you missed my literal first reply

Even if those things were 100% real they would be less fascist than getting hit in the head with a metal pipe for not believing there's 30000 genders

Except they aren't, they're actual fascism, on a large scale, a system.

A few crazies showing up and fighting with Trumptards is not fascism, and as I said - we can easily go look at the Trumptards that have literally killed people.

A few crazies showing up and fighting with Trumptards is not fascism

There were literal MILLIONS of people supporting "punch a nazi" on social media. That's actually fascism. Academia is supporting "speech = violence so speech must be restricted" that is literal fascism.

While I agree voter disenfranchisement is bad, and anything denying people's rights is bad, just because some honkys in NC have a shitty plan to make black people go to the DMV doesn't make whatever the left is doing right.

There were literal MILLIONS of people supporting "punch a nazi" on social media. That's actually fascism. Academia is supporting "speech = violence so speech must be restricted" that is literal fascism.

That isn't even fascism, the idea that being against free speech is a core trait of fascism is weird, that's just a trait found in many different political ideologies.

It's found in communism.

It's found in socialism.

It's found in fascism.

While I agree voter disenfranchisement is bad, and anything denying people's rights is bad, just because some honkys in NC have a shitty plan to make black people go to the DMV doesn't make whatever the left is doing right.

Again - you keep trying this, the ID is not what they got busted for, they literally cut voting hours and early voting hours specifically to reduce minority turn out, and this isn't only found in NC, it's found in many states in this country to the point many are falling into "flawed democracy."

http://www.newsobserver.com/opinion/op-ed/article122593759.html

In 2012 Elklit and I worked with Pippa Norris of Harvard University, who used the system as the cornerstone of the Electoral Integrity Project. Since then the EIP has measured 213 elections in 153 countries and is widely agreed to be the most accurate method for evaluating how free and fair and democratic elections are across time and place.

When we evolved the project I could never imagine that as we enter 2017, my state, North Carolina, would perform so badly on this, and other, measures that we are no longer considered to be a fully functioning democracy.

In the just released EIP report, North Carolina’s overall electoral integrity score of 58/100 for the 2016 election places us alongside authoritarian states and pseudo-democracies like Cuba, Indonesia and Sierra Leone. If it were a nation state, North Carolina would rank right in the middle of the global league table – a deeply flawed, partly free democracy that is only slightly ahead of the failed democracies that constitute much of the developing world.

There are multiple states like this dude. And no matter how badly you want to pretend this isn't as bad, it's many times worse. Literally trying to suppress voters that disagree with you politically is actually a key trait of fascism.

I'll be honest i'm drunk and i don't care to read right now but I generally agree with you that is really wrong and I was probably wrong for being so dismissive but i also consider shit like I brought up just as wrong while you seemingly do not.

If you want a fascist article that actually exists that is in reference to voter disenfranchisement then refer that huffpo article that they were tricked into posting, then actually defended in article.

But yes you are mostly right

I'm not even saying what the campus crazies did is right, I'll openly call them shitty people - my point is, the actual suppressing of voters in the way we see today is actual fascism.

A crazy SJW hitting some guy at a rally isn't suppressing voters or reducing someones political power.

A crazy SJW hitting some guy at a rally isn't suppressing voters or reducing someone's political power.

No but it is suppressing people's ability to exercise their right to free speech, spread their opinions and organize a political response to things they disagree with.

there's a difference between isolated political violence and actual systemic suppression of peoples rights.

You can hardly call it isolated when literally every time someone tries to go to that town and talk about something that doesn't align with extreme anarchist viewpoints they get physically assaulted and thousands of dollars with of property damage is done

No but it is suppressing people's ability to exercise their right to free speech, spread their opinions and organize a political response to things they disagree with.

Do you seriously think this is happening on any relevant scale?

You can hardly call it isolated when literally every time someone tries to go to that town and talk about something that doesn't align with extreme anarchist viewpoints they get physically assaulted and thousands of dollars with of property damage is done

Literally every time? Seriously man? How common do you think this is? How many people do you think Antifa even has?

The reality here is like 10 of these people show up to select protests, throw some trash, and leave. These "assaults" almost never actually happen, and often the Trumptards are attacking people as well.

The reality here is like 10 of these people show up to select protests, throw some trash, and leave.

There is literal video evidence of this claim being incorrect.

No, there's not, show me a video containing mass violence.

M8, that video you just linked me looks to be a bunch of SJWs in black, and a Trumptard literally walks up and throws something at one of them sparking a fight.

The guy in the white shirt that got attacked first seems to have a black mask on.

Using your logic, the Trumpets here are just as fascist as the SJWs.

Using your logic, the Trumpets here are just as fascist as the SJWs

now you're just being disengenious. do you think antifa showed up by the hundreds at conservative talks just to silently protest or do you think they came to commit violent acts gee i wonder if you have any bias or something

but i'm glad you could literally watch all those videos and comment in less than literally one minute you must have super powers you fucking ape

Conservative talks? How fucking conservative do you think Berkley is dude? How many Trumptards do you think go there?

No, this was a bunch of Trumpers showing up at a mainly liberal school to protest the SJWs, Antifa shows up, exactly as they knew would happen and then they get in fights with each other.

This shit is like Weimer Germany, where for some reason, the dumb ass nazis could violently assault people, provoke fights, and be just as guilty of violence as the commies, but people would only blame the commies.

The video you just linked me was literally a Trumper walking up and assaulting someone first.

The cult of leadership which they created around Hitler could not be matched by comparable efforts by other parties to project their leaders as the Bismarcks of the future. All this was achieved through powerful, simple slogans and images, frenetic, manic activity, marches, rallies, demonstrations, speeches, posters, placards and the like, which underlined the Nazis’ claim to be far more than a political party: they were a movement, sweeping up the German people and carrying them unstoppably to a better future. What the Nazis did not offer, however, were concrete solutions to Germany’s problems, least of all in the area where they were most needed, in economy and society. More strikingly still, the public disorder which loomed so large in the minds of the respectable middle classes in 1930, and which the Nazis promised to end through the creation of a tough, authoritarian state, was to a considerable extent of their own making. Many people evidently failed to realize this, blaming the Communists instead, and seeing in the violence of the brown-uniformed Nazi stormtroopers on the streets a justified, or at least understandable reaction to the violence and aggression of the Red Front-Fighters’ League.

Oh jesus you're actually calling people Nazi's now (you know all those nazis that love flamboyantly gay speakers). You're literally one of them.

Please stop posting.

Please stop existing.

You are a parody of yourself.

I didn't even call anyone a nazi, the mechanics are just the same. Like you link a video to showcase this left wing violence, and it's literally a Trumptard in fascist garb walking up and throwing something at someone, sparking a fight.

Did you even watch that video man?

Please stop trying to say that antifa is the victim it's embarrassing. I'm literally embarrassed for you.

Please stop posting

Please stop existing

LOL, literally linked a video of a Trumptard walking up and starting a fight.

I'm not even saying they're the victim, they're morons and just as guilty as the Trumptards are in that video.

10 people throwing trash

This one was larger, but that doesn't change the fact the Trumptards were just as guilty, and you clearly know that.

10 people trumptards guilty throwing trash respond again

The difference is racist voter suppression and gerrymandering is actually a legitimate concern because it happens more often, affects more people and at the hands of elected officials who are so terrified of being voted out of office for being racist that they deny minorities' constitutional right to vote.

Lol did you shame that guy into deleting his account?

he was getting upvoted despite being totally wrong about voter suppression.

this is a bad sub, is my thesis.

You're not wrong, but these kind of threads in particular tend to get overrun with "Lel libtards tears" dipshits.

Try bringing up real states, not "new carolina" "north hampshire" or "bungholeiana"

Should we go take a look at the terrorist attacks carried out or planned by right wing tards/Trump tards?

What's black people got to do with this?

racial voter suppression not real

Wrong. Next time, do your research so you don't make yourself look like a fool.

How can it be real if race isn't real? Checkmate cumskin.

The attempts to write religion into law and enforce your religious views on people?

Barely real

It's been less than a decade since most of DOMA was struck down and less than two years since gay marriage was legal everywhere.

"But you won, you don't get to say the problems you solved are real anymore or that the people who made the problem still exist and would like to go back!"

less fascist than getting hit in the head with a metal pipe for not believing there's 30000 genders

You're pissing yourself over imaginary things the little girls of antifa will do to you. Right-wingers are such cowards.

Hahahahahahahaha How The Fuck Is College Republicans Real Hahahaha Nigga Just Walk Away From The Student Union Like Nigga Close Your Eyes Haha

I really don't understand how campus liberals are this stupid.

Really? If you take a look at how non-campus liberals behaved during and after the election it should be pretty easy to see.

Not really sure what you're talking about, Trump was a profoundly ignorant moron and by far the most unqualified person to ever run for office.

Protesting him was perfectly justified.

no idiot, Trump won because of sjws and uh, tumblr genders

he won because of crazy people and because the dnc treated the voting public like a bunch of actual morons

people dont like being condescended and lied to

you know, i'm not conceding this point, but even if it were correct, an actual moron like you is the wrong person to be making it

lol i love how bitter you guys get about politics

just deal with the fact your ideas arent as popular as you thought, or maybe even consider that youre wrong about things

i'm being sincere here cap. and i'm honestly not one of these guys who just writes off the "other team" as inherently idiots or whatever. my side is full of idiots.

i'm telling you honestly you're a genuinely unintelligent person, it's p. clear

it's p. clear

lol based on what my dude

if its because of politics then rest assured that you dont really know what i think

no idiot, Trump won because of sjws and uh, tumblr genders

Well then that doesn't look good for Trump voters.

See Trump can't actually stop tumble feminists from saying there's 3000 genders, protesting cultural appropriation, or whatever. No president could because that would violate the first amendment.

So either they don't know how the us government works, or were voting for him out of spite which is a shitty reason to vote for a president. Like yeah he'd piss off the SJWs but so would electing a shitty president.

yes it does

how?

it's not my job to do your research for you snowflake

I'm not asking you to do research I'm asking you to explain how what you just said makes any sense.

It does though.

but are they really THIS stupid?

Trump hosts a rally, retards beat the shit out of Trump supporters, the alt-right blasts social media with it for days, the old media comes on and shows that old guy punching a black man and says "violence at Trump rallies".

We didn't have to have Trump. We could have had Jeb talk about guacomole while Hillary kept her emails in her soggy pants. But the media decided that Trump needed to make headline news and Hitler allegory's so people voted for him out of spite.

The most egregious part of this is that the adults in the institutional administrations have actually been kowtowing to, enabling and codling these parochial disruptors for no reason whatsoever. Administrations have been bending over backwards to accommodate these ever more parochial radicalists and disruptors of personal responsibility and intellectual pluralism; setting aside ever growing budjets for adjudicating bodies to take every absurd complaint seriously as long as it's couched in the least bit neo-feminist or radical rationale.

I really don't understand how campus liberals are this stupid.

maybe they were just born that way. maybe their culture plays a role as well.

they know it'll trigger the campus legbeards into a frenzy and provide months of material for their bullshit "liberal fascist" articles they spam all over alt-media.

or a more appropriate way to describe what is happening:

reality proves the claim that the left is bunch of bigoted wannabe-oppressors.

when anarchists come out to violently mob attack innocents, it's not that the poor anarchists were tricked by evil Pepe frogs.

They Just Are That Way.

"liberal fascist" articles they spam all over alt-media.

it's not a misrepresentation.

maybe they were just born that way. maybe their culture plays a role as well.

Considering free speech is literally a trait of liberalism, not sure what you're smoking.

when anarchists come out to violently mob attack innocents, it's not that the poor anarchists were tricked by evil Pepe frogs.

Ah yes, of course, the dumb ass Trumpets played no role, and clearly Trumpets are innocent! It's not like they've literally killed people and have been busted planning terrorist attacks or anything:

http://www.kwch.com/content/news/Federal-officials-to-announce-arrests-in-major-investigation-397095961.html

it's not a misrepresentation.

Yeah, the LIBERALS are the "real fascists" and not the conservatives, the group behind racial voter suppression and constant attacks on civil rights.

Some crazy anarchists showing up is clearly a much larger problem than those things, right?

Considering free speech is literally a trait of liberalism,

left wing ideology in 2017 has pretty much zero, nothing, nada, niet in common with liberalism

It's not like they've literally killed

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Yeah, the LIBERALS are the "real fascists"

why are you so confused about left wingers vs liberals?

The ACLU is liberal, Berkeley leftists are not the least bit liberal.

the conservatives, the group behind racial voter suppression and constant attacks on civil rights.

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA lol get some air

I'm actually gonna reply to one thing here, and I'm going to show you how low information you are.

In particular, the court found that North Carolina lawmakers requested data on racial differences in voting behaviors in the state. "This data showed that African Americans disproportionately lacked the most common kind of photo ID, those issued by the Department of Motor Vehicles (DMV)," the judges wrote.

So the legislators made it so that the only acceptable forms of voter identification were the ones disproportionately used by white people. "With race data in hand, the legislature amended the bill to exclude many of the alternative photo IDs used by African Americans," the judges wrote. "The bill retained only the kinds of IDs that white North Carolinians were more likely to possess." Most strikingly, the judges point to a "smoking gun" in North Carolina's justification for the law, proving discriminatory intent. The state argued in court that "counties with Sunday voting in 2014 were disproportionately black" and "disproportionately Democratic," and said it did away with Sunday voting as a result.

"Thus, in what comes as close to a smoking gun as we are likely to see in modern times, the State’s very justification for a challenged statute hinges explicitly on race — specifically its concern that African Americans, who had overwhelmingly voted for Democrats, had too much access to the franchise," the judges write in their decision.

Or how about:

http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/03/11/519839892/federal-court-rules-three-texas-congressional-districts-illegally-drawn

A panel of federal judges ruled on Friday that three of Texas' congressional districts are illegal, violating the Constitution and the Voting Rights Act. The panel found that Republicans had used race as a motivating factor in redistricting.

https://electionlawblog.org/?p=85289

Are we done here, or are the federal courts lying?

If I were a mod of this place I would've banned you two fanny bandits A LONG ASS TIME AGO for all this fucking bullshit serious posting going on in my drama. Contrary to what I thought its more likely than I think.

huh?

why don't you just go to the DMV?

Not owning a car, for starters

LOL, nice try dude.

The ID wasn't the problem, let me copy paste this one more time:

Most strikingly, the judges point to a "smoking gun" in North Carolina's justification for the law, proving discriminatory intent. The state argued in court that "counties with Sunday voting in 2014 were disproportionately black" and "disproportionately Democratic," and said it did away with Sunday voting as a result.

"Thus, in what comes as close to a smoking gun as we are likely to see in modern times, the State’s very justification for a challenged statute hinges explicitly on race — specifically its concern that African Americans, who had overwhelmingly voted for Democrats, had too much access to the franchise," the judges write in their decision.

smoking gun

smoking is bad

guns are bad

"" marks are bad

Everyone is a shithead and murca is finally falling off a cliff.

SJWs tend to be stupid people, but are they really THIS stupid?

yes

This seems to be a lesson no one learns. EVER.

Do you not like GTA, Miley Cyrus, Justin Bieber, or some new movie? Well raising a big fuss about it would just give it more attention since you can't actually stop them, and in some cases they are BANKING on the controversy giving them free press.

I have no idea how SJWs keep falling for this shit, SJWs tend to be stupid people, but are they really THIS stupid?

The obvious answer is also the correct one: Yes, they're at least that stupid, but probably even more stupid than that.

I remember a month back, during all the ruckus over Trump's travel ban, the ACLU was deified as heroes and inundated with donations. I also remember one of their reps coming to /r/politics and basically saying, "you like us now, but please remember we're probably going to be defending some shit you don't like at some point in the future."

Prophetic.

Opposing free speech is so stupid that I can't quite believe these are normal students. The whole thing seems like some kind of psyop. It's probably not, but who knows. Mouthy people campaigning against free speech is like McDonalds workers campaigning for a lower minimum wage.

If you hate free speech you are free to STFU.

He thinks liberal arts majors are normal students.

Also a lot of them don't even to go Berkeley, if any college.

wtf i hate civil liberties now

NOT REAL SENSORSHIP REEEEEEEE

See this is the kind of comment I like. Too many "politically informed" trump fans and opponents in here, and they're all fucking retarded.

Ban effortposts

Or make effort posts great again

effortposts are no good, some might even say they are bad

I assume some are good people

why can't we just strip rights from people we don't like :( :(

yes we can

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I don't like person's opinion

but it's the right who are violent and the speech was being shut down by government waaaaaaaaaajhhhhhbbbbhhghbubuuuu...

Jesus Christ. Imagine being trolled this hard by Coulter. The left needs a serious purge.

It's like these people haven't ever heard of Ann Coulter before either. She's been around and speaking on campuses since Bill Clinton was president.

But didn't you hear? That was before they got into college, and they're going to be the generation of change!!! No more Fascist, KKk!

Idk why I haven't filtered r/fuckthealtright yet but it cracks me up everytime I'm on r/all and I see they've got a meme about Coulter or O'Reilly or some other long-standing conservative pundit

I suspect that a large part of that is misogyny. I'd bet that if Ann Coulter were a man, redditeurs and the left twitter wouldn't attack her half as viciously ;-)

ohoho u almost got me friendo :D

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Holy shit that's strong

This is why I love the ACLU and donate to them monthly.

Nathan Grayson is so fucking heroic and brave for no longer donating to the ACLU. Not only did he stop donating, he announced it and opened a discussion for us lesser people too stupid to think for ourselves.

True martyrdom.

oh hey theres a surprise all the usual twitter sjw faggots dont like the idea of people being allowed to say stuff they dont like

its probably a coincidence they all have hilarious skeletons in their closets

I'm dumbfounded by how easily both sides of this stupid Berkeley riot have managed to create those retardedly grandiose narratives for themselves. Like, most of the antifaggots and /pol/tards there seem to honestly believe they're either bravely #resisting Trumpian fascism or fighting back against communist-run academia or whatever. And I really want to tell them "Please, take it from someone who's family has seen ACTUAL fascism and ACTUAL communism. You MacBook-mashing, Starbucks-sipping idiots would've been shipped off to the gulag faster than I can say the first sentence of the Communist Manifesto. And Hitler would be all too happy to close the gas chamber doors on your Anglo-Saxon, degenerate, trap-loving asses who had the audacity to deny his greatest legacy. So please, stop it with the LARPing shit or else someone is going to die."

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