Lol. Now he went back to his incel friends to cry about how the bad bad progressives treated him unfairly. Didnt expect you to get downvoted so hard tho. rip in peace.
i'm saying you're not a progressive. you're not a very smart person at all. i doubt you have very much of a coherent ideology, apart from feeling smugly satisfied about whatever handful of Slate headlines you've chosen to care about recently
i doubt you have very much of a coherent ideology, apart from feeling smugly satisfied about whatever handful of Slate headlines you've chosen to care about recently
still more thought out than anything I've ever put to text.
Yeah? I agree with him. A lot of the incel sub seem mentally Ill and I despite the ridiculous shit they come out with I don't think they're subhuman creatures.
Obviously. But giving the sort of shit incels come out with a hand wave and a "but they're just mentally ill!" is disingenous at best, dangerous/perpetuating stigmas at worst.
If they want to discuss their toxic ideology and engage publicly I'm not going to cry for them. Telling them to get help obviously does not work, based on their many responses
Yes, it's really the hypocrisy that makes this funny. I feel like that's what those people aren't getting here. Nobody cares if you call incels sperglord autismos, but if you're attempting to show people how progressive you are , saying they aren't worthy of basic human respect flys against that in rather large ways. I mean, do they think real life prisoners shouldn't be treated like human beings even though their actions have probably caused much greater harm than some nerd shitposting on reddit? It's hilarious stuff.
Microwaved tho. Nothing is alive after being subjected to that. So riemann basically admitted to torturing an alive being and then desecrating the delicious corpse
I know we've all discussed this ad nauseam, I don't get how the progressive subs are so full of shitty people. Don't say you're fighting for a better world and then be an asshole to everyone you meet.
I don't get how the progressive subs are so full of shitty people.
Well but the thing is it usually makes you feel a bit guilty to just be a shitty person. So if you can delude yourself into thinking that, in being a shitty person, you're actually "championing empathy" (actual quote from a CB2er), then you get to be an insufferable twat without having to feel bad about it.
, I don't get how the progressive subs are so full of shitty people.
Didn't you get the memo? The people on this subreddit, and most people on this website, and most people everywhere despite having unnecessarily advanced technology in their hands -- are idiots who don't even understand basic global economics, cosmology, astrophysics or agriculture!
Are we actually pretending incels are worth defending now? You don't have to be a bad person to recognize filth. They might deserve pity, but not much else.
If you're dumb enough to think I was defending incels, you really need to drive into a bridge abutment. Although you're likely too young to have a license.
If you're dumb enough to think I was defending incels, you really need to drive into a bridge abutment. Although you're likely too young to have a license.
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what an extremely progressive contempt for the disabled and downtrodden
Making a sarcastic comment like that when you don't really give a shit and just want to make someone look hypocritical is the dumbest shit to ever hit the internet.
That's not what I was saying. Mental illness is not an excuse to be a toxic misogynist, for every 1 incel there are thousands of mentally ill people that don't resort to toxic misogyny. They may be mentally ill, but they're also fucking assholes. There is a difference
It can be a mitigating circumstance in a court case, sure. But are all hateful groups who advocate violence going to escape justified public commentary because they're mentally unwell?
Incels in particular seem to reject pleas to get help as "normie" shit. If they are going to pollute public spaces with their ideology, they should be exposed to what "normies" would say.
What kind of mental illness do you think they have, anyway? Based on their posts, and the fact they are well enough to post, most of them seem to have narcissistic PD plus body dysmorphic disorder, depression, anxiety, etc. How many people do you know with depression or anxiety? Do they resort to blaming an outside group and promoting slavery and violence? Probably not.
The incel community is dangerous because they normalize their hate and any attempt to tell them to get help is immediately taken as evidence the world is against them. There s really not a solution here that I can see, but equating their vitriol to mental illness is just bigotry. They are fucking dangerous assholes
The incel community is dangerous because they normalize their hate and any attempt to tell them to get help is immediately taken as evidence the world is against them.
Wait, does that mean r/drama is a dangerous community, too?
So you're helping the situation by getting into a race to the bottom with Incels to see who can dehumanise the other more? Their vitriol is a result of their mental condition, which you seem dismissive of as a root cause, because I highly doubt mentally healthy people are choosing to be incels.
Are you th is defensive of other hate groups that advocate violence? The kkk, Isis? Because the same "mentally unwell" arguments apply to them. Should everyone just tiptoe around toxic rhetoric then?
Im waiting for the white house press conference about the Incel threat assessment to make a statement, but yeah, kkk and ISIS are also human beings. You should read about the ones that reformed, but better yet, try and understand how and where they come from if you want to stop them.
Never said they're not human, never suggested how to "stop" them. I'm simply saying it's perpetuating stigma to say incels discuss and promote raping, killing, mutilating, and enslaving women because they are mentally ill. Mental illness does not make you an asshole. They may have some illnesses, they are also violent dangerous assholes.
Incels are totally capable of choosing to seek treatment / get help. Their choice to sit at home bitching on a computer for eternity instead of doing anything at all that could improve their situation is exactly that, their choice.
Being mentally ill doesn't make you not responsible for your actions & choices. It also doesn't give you a free pass on being an awful piece of shit.
People who say that, in my experience, generally have very limited experience with extreme mental illness, the state of the infrastructure and science to deal with it, the lack of public awareness about the topic and what it's actually like and how much of non-choice it can become.
Au contraire, maybe people who say that do have experience dealing with people with "extreme mental illness." It's not like advances in treatment or understanding are going to help incels; if you haven't noticed, they don't want to be helped. Presumably because admitting that their problems are theoretically solvable would ruin their martyr complex / defense mechanism in which nothing is ever their fault and only the Big Bad World is to blame, but hey, maybe you have a different hypothesis.
At the end of the day, statistically, most people who are stuck with severe depression, personality disorders, whatever the hell can eventually recover, if they work at it. But they do so because they decide to hold themselves accountable, not because they spend years of their life idolizing Elliot Rodgers and crying about how girls are mean.
I don't care what the two subs are like in comparison with each other, I care that Drama is openly toxic and goes out of their way to hurl insults at anyone and everyone.
Wow. I usually enjoy your comments on here but im super didappointed in this thread. Your latent racism is showing & it's coming out all over this thread as this is the 2nd or 3rd comment I've seen you equate historically disenfranchised black people to incels. Really sucks to see you defend people who want to rape and kill my gender by using my race as a "got em" tactic. Just wow
Edit: and in fact I have reached out to various incels and had some reach out to me on my old account which is why I now refer to it as my "old account". They'd tell me all their issues, I listened with a sympathetic ear because some of them have been through hell (and Lord knows I can relate) but apart from one guy who eventually started to get girls talking to him and even a couple of dates (which coincided with succesful therapy and his change in attitude) they'd default to telling me to get raped and die. Got to the point that daily those type if messages were flooding my inbox while in the main sub they're bitching about women seeing them as scum... Some people are just awful at their core and that's that. I personally do think how a person reacts to adversity is telling of their character. Mental illness does not excuse disgusting behaviour as I think that shit has to be inherent at some level. Everyone has a core of who they are.
My best friends brother is such a person. He's very much have the same attitude as an incels, that of a self victimizing loser. He's 35, lives rent free at his dad's house (because he constantly lies about not having money to contribute), refuses to see or provide for his children, was literally given jobs on a plate but turned them down, turns down help when his family sorted out therapy for him multiple times over the years, spends his benefit money on alcohol and crackhead prostitutes and so much more. But the 2nd he gets called out on his shit out comes the whiny "why is everyone ganging up on me, my life is shit, it's not my fault I'm like this" wah wah wah. He's been like that most of his life, a selfish, lying user. Some people literally can't be helped
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n/a AlcoholicMood 2017-06-03
anything to piss off the sardines though
n/a riemann1413 2017-06-03
it's much too easy on this topic tho
imagine being so eager to demonstrate you're feminist enough you're happy to shit on people are are largely disabled and hideous
the guy in there who asked.me.if i had ever heard of racism is my favorite. imagine lacking that much self awareness
n/a AlcoholicMood 2017-06-03
I AM A GOOD PERSON I ALSO DISLIKE INCELS PLS UPBOATS
n/a riemann1413 2017-06-03
I DO NOT HATE HUMAN FEMALES PLS VALIDATE THIS PLS
n/a ComedicSans 2017-06-03
"Hello, friend. Do you have a minute? I'd like to talk to you about a wonderful creation, called 'racism'".
n/a AlcoholicMood 2017-06-03
/u/aguad3coco might be the dumbest person I have seen on a while
n/a bleasehalb 2017-06-03
They need pathetic incels to exist or else there wouldn't anyone on earth they could be superior to.
n/a aguad3coco 2017-06-03
Lol. Now he went back to his incel friends to cry about how the bad bad progressives treated him unfairly. Didnt expect you to get downvoted so hard tho. rip in peace.
n/a subpoutine 2017-06-03
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n/a AlcoholicMood 2017-06-03
You?
lmao, please
n/a aguad3coco 2017-06-03
I dont label myself. Though a lot of people seem to put that label on me in this thread.
n/a AlcoholicMood 2017-06-03
bitch boy isnt a label, sweatheart
n/a aguad3coco 2017-06-03
Never implied it is. Still making shit up I see.
n/a riemann1413 2017-06-03
i think you might actually be retarded
i'm saying you're not a progressive. you're not a very smart person at all. i doubt you have very much of a coherent ideology, apart from feeling smugly satisfied about whatever handful of Slate headlines you've chosen to care about recently
n/a Sarge_Ward 2017-06-03
still more thought out than anything I've ever put to text.
n/a riemann1413 2017-06-03
i didn't ask you to dinner cuz ur smart jeff
n/a Sarge_Ward 2017-06-03
only in it for my body. Typical Chicagoan
n/a riemann1413 2017-06-03
post bussy
n/a Sarge_Ward 2017-06-03
we haven't even had dinner yet.
n/a riemann1413 2017-06-03
yeah but c'mon
n/a aguad3coco 2017-06-03
Who cares about what I am? I didnt label myself or did I? You made a fool out of yourself lol. Dont blame me for being an idiot.
n/a Standard12 2017-06-03
Getting downvoted in SRD isn't exactly difficult. Just say that a group they don't like maybe isn't 100% evil and the downvoted flood in.
n/a aguad3coco 2017-06-03
I was suprised, but he deserved the downvotes. Those were the lamest comments I have seen from him.
n/a Standard12 2017-06-03
Yeah? I agree with him. A lot of the incel sub seem mentally Ill and I despite the ridiculous shit they come out with I don't think they're subhuman creatures.
n/a LadyVetinari 2017-06-03
btw "mentally ill" is not equivalent to virulent misogynist nor asshole. Tyvm
n/a riemann1413 2017-06-03
i agree, but nobody is even close claiming those are equivalent. just that being ill can manifest in a lot of ways, even distasteful ones
n/a LadyVetinari 2017-06-03
Obviously. But giving the sort of shit incels come out with a hand wave and a "but they're just mentally ill!" is disingenous at best, dangerous/perpetuating stigmas at worst.
If they want to discuss their toxic ideology and engage publicly I'm not going to cry for them. Telling them to get help obviously does not work, based on their many responses
n/a riemann1413 2017-06-03
idk fam u did a pretty great job of signalling your disability
n/a aguad3coco 2017-06-03
That is kinda rude bruh. All I did was making you look like a fool. Worked out better than I thought.
Blame yourself for assuming my political orientation.
n/a AlcoholicMood 2017-06-03
u lit today fam
n/a takesteady12 2017-06-03
Yes, it's really the hypocrisy that makes this funny. I feel like that's what those people aren't getting here. Nobody cares if you call incels sperglord autismos, but if you're attempting to show people how progressive you are , saying they aren't worthy of basic human respect flys against that in rather large ways. I mean, do they think real life prisoners shouldn't be treated like human beings even though their actions have probably caused much greater harm than some nerd shitposting on reddit? It's hilarious stuff.
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n/a afclu13 2017-06-03
/u/reimann1413 even the bot is laying it on to you.
n/a DannyLee90 2017-06-03
/u/riemann1413 answer the goddamn question.
n/a riemann1413 2017-06-03
sometimes i finesse yer mum LOL
n/a DannyLee90 2017-06-03
i can tell. the first inch is always a little looser after you leave.
n/a riemann1413 2017-06-03
smells the same the whole way thru tho
n/a DannyLee90 2017-06-03
thats becuz you're supposed to put the dental dam on your mouth, u dummy
n/a shaneoffline 2017-06-03
It's ok to just say yes.
n/a riemann1413 2017-06-03
this but unironically
n/a JasonJewnova 2017-06-03
Stop
n/a riemann1413 2017-06-03
no
n/a YHofSuburbia 2017-06-03
wow /u/riemann1413 is an incel? colour me surprised!!!
n/a riemann1413 2017-06-03
do microwaved canteloupes not count?
n/a YHofSuburbia 2017-06-03
why do you think the government should provide all men with free canteloupes? disgusting scum, kill yourself
n/a riemann1413 2017-06-03
i'm sorry i just value incel pleasure
n/a lokichilde 2017-06-03
Suicide?
n/a OldOrder 2017-06-03
Seems like it would burn your dick tbh
n/a ReddCrowe 2017-06-03
If it's a living thing, you're fucking it. So yes, melons count.
n/a bleasehalb 2017-06-03
Make sure you strap your junk b4 though unless you want bastard melonman hybrids running around
n/a LadyVetinari 2017-06-03
Microwaved tho. Nothing is alive after being subjected to that. So riemann basically admitted to torturing an alive being and then desecrating the delicious corpse
n/a ReddCrowe 2017-06-03
I'm not surprised tbh.
n/a blastiff 2017-06-03
What if it's dead and not a melon?
n/a ReddCrowe 2017-06-03
Like a dead person? I would still say nercophilia (corpsefucking) is still a kind of fucking.
n/a MegaSeedsInYourBum 2017-06-03
Not when they tell you they just want to be friends.
n/a menvaren 2017-06-03
I know we've all discussed this ad nauseam, I don't get how the progressive subs are so full of shitty people. Don't say you're fighting for a better world and then be an asshole to everyone you meet.
n/a NGC_6960 2017-06-03
when you act like an asshole to possibly shitty people you aren't actually an asshole! you're progressive n woke af
n/a ComedicSans 2017-06-03
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n/a portablegrant 2017-06-03
They're progressive bc they think it makes up for being an inherently shitty person.
n/a nanonan 2017-06-03
Idiots naive enough to think their ideal world is so superior are smug arseholes, who knew.
n/a Ylajali_2002 2017-06-03
Well but the thing is it usually makes you feel a bit guilty to just be a shitty person. So if you can delude yourself into thinking that, in being a shitty person, you're actually "championing empathy" (actual quote from a CB2er), then you get to be an insufferable twat without having to feel bad about it.
n/a Cephaliarch 2017-06-03
"I'm not actually racist. Racism = Power + Prejudice. I'm just a massive fucking asshole, which is better."
n/a CrushedBlackPepper 2017-06-03
Didn't you get the memo? The people on this subreddit, and most people on this website, and most people everywhere despite having unnecessarily advanced technology in their hands -- are idiots who don't even understand basic global economics, cosmology, astrophysics or agriculture!
n/a froibo 2017-06-03
Are we actually pretending incels are worth defending now? You don't have to be a bad person to recognize filth. They might deserve pity, but not much else.
n/a menvaren 2017-06-03
If you're dumb enough to think I was defending incels, you really need to drive into a bridge abutment. Although you're likely too young to have a license.
n/a froibo 2017-06-03
Then what actual point are you trying to make, because it seems like you are calling them shitty people for calling incels shitty.
n/a ThatDamnedImp 2017-06-03
The point, I believe, is that people like you are too often assholes. And I believe that you're making it for him.
n/a froibo 2017-06-03
And what am I like?
n/a thefran 2017-06-03
I just really despise bullies, man.
n/a fernsauce 2017-06-03
oh come on. let's not pretend the world would be worse off if we got rid of the incels, now
n/a menvaren 2017-06-03
n/a menvaren 2017-06-03
The world would be better off if incels dropped off the face of the planet, but it would be much better if SRD smug posters went first.
n/a delethotheads 2017-06-03
/u/riemann1413 i gotta admit ur work triggers me most of the time but shit shit gold
nice work fam
n/a SamWhite 2017-06-03
They took a big steaming dump all over that thread, and they did it while wearing a 'SRD Commenter of the Year' flair.
n/a delethotheads 2017-06-03
CAN THE SRDINE
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n/a lokichilde 2017-06-03
http://i.imgur.com/S2RMEhF.jpg
n/a satanismyhomeboy 2017-06-03
That's some soul-crushing shit, right there
n/a lokichilde 2017-06-03
Yeah, incels are pretty depressing.
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n/a justcool393 2017-06-03
That website is auto-spamfiltered. Unsurprising.
n/a glmox 2017-06-03
this is what happens when your value system doesn't allow for more than one variable
n/a darth_stroyer 2017-06-03
No tolerance policies suck also I hate this random celebrity because I heard he was rude to someone once.
n/a PhysicsIsMyMistress 2017-06-03
/u/riemann1413 is right though
(never thought I'd ever say that sentence)
n/a riemann1413 2017-06-03
mmmmmm feels good don't it
n/a BANNED_FIVE_TIMES 2017-06-03
god i hate you
n/a outside-looking-in 2017-06-03
Making a sarcastic comment like that when you don't really give a shit and just want to make someone look hypocritical is the dumbest shit to ever hit the internet.
n/a LadyVetinari 2017-06-03
Ok if you want to equate mental illness with an excuse to be a dangerously toxic asshole, sure.
n/a PhysicsIsMyMistress 2017-06-03
If you can't see that mental illness can lead to people being toxic and dangerous, then idk what to say to you.
n/a LadyVetinari 2017-06-03
That's not what I was saying. Mental illness is not an excuse to be a toxic misogynist, for every 1 incel there are thousands of mentally ill people that don't resort to toxic misogyny. They may be mentally ill, but they're also fucking assholes. There is a difference
n/a PhysicsIsMyMistress 2017-06-03
It's not an excuse, it can be a reason.
n/a LadyVetinari 2017-06-03
It can be a mitigating circumstance in a court case, sure. But are all hateful groups who advocate violence going to escape justified public commentary because they're mentally unwell?
Incels in particular seem to reject pleas to get help as "normie" shit. If they are going to pollute public spaces with their ideology, they should be exposed to what "normies" would say.
What kind of mental illness do you think they have, anyway? Based on their posts, and the fact they are well enough to post, most of them seem to have narcissistic PD plus body dysmorphic disorder, depression, anxiety, etc. How many people do you know with depression or anxiety? Do they resort to blaming an outside group and promoting slavery and violence? Probably not.
The incel community is dangerous because they normalize their hate and any attempt to tell them to get help is immediately taken as evidence the world is against them. There s really not a solution here that I can see, but equating their vitriol to mental illness is just bigotry. They are fucking dangerous assholes
n/a blastiff 2017-06-03
Wait, does that mean r/drama is a dangerous community, too?
n/a point_shaver 2017-06-03
So you're helping the situation by getting into a race to the bottom with Incels to see who can dehumanise the other more? Their vitriol is a result of their mental condition, which you seem dismissive of as a root cause, because I highly doubt mentally healthy people are choosing to be incels.
n/a LadyVetinari 2017-06-03
Are you th is defensive of other hate groups that advocate violence? The kkk, Isis? Because the same "mentally unwell" arguments apply to them. Should everyone just tiptoe around toxic rhetoric then?
n/a Pencil-2305 2017-06-03
Why not?
n/a Pencil-2305 2017-06-03
Just LOL
n/a point_shaver 2017-06-03
Im waiting for the white house press conference about the Incel threat assessment to make a statement, but yeah, kkk and ISIS are also human beings. You should read about the ones that reformed, but better yet, try and understand how and where they come from if you want to stop them.
n/a LadyVetinari 2017-06-03
10 points for condescension bud.
Never said they're not human, never suggested how to "stop" them. I'm simply saying it's perpetuating stigma to say incels discuss and promote raping, killing, mutilating, and enslaving women because they are mentally ill. Mental illness does not make you an asshole. They may have some illnesses, they are also violent dangerous assholes.
n/a point_shaver 2017-06-03
You clearly have no idea what you're talking about.
n/a fernsauce 2017-06-03
Incels are totally capable of choosing to seek treatment / get help. Their choice to sit at home bitching on a computer for eternity instead of doing anything at all that could improve their situation is exactly that, their choice.
Being mentally ill doesn't make you not responsible for your actions & choices. It also doesn't give you a free pass on being an awful piece of shit.
n/a point_shaver 2017-06-03
People who say that, in my experience, generally have very limited experience with extreme mental illness, the state of the infrastructure and science to deal with it, the lack of public awareness about the topic and what it's actually like and how much of non-choice it can become.
n/a fernsauce 2017-06-03
Au contraire, maybe people who say that do have experience dealing with people with "extreme mental illness." It's not like advances in treatment or understanding are going to help incels; if you haven't noticed, they don't want to be helped. Presumably because admitting that their problems are theoretically solvable would ruin their martyr complex / defense mechanism in which nothing is ever their fault and only the Big Bad World is to blame, but hey, maybe you have a different hypothesis.
At the end of the day, statistically, most people who are stuck with severe depression, personality disorders, whatever the hell can eventually recover, if they work at it. But they do so because they decide to hold themselves accountable, not because they spend years of their life idolizing Elliot Rodgers and crying about how girls are mean.
n/a MyrLeaf 2017-06-03
Stop radicalizing incels by insulting them
n/a darth_stroyer 2017-06-03
/u/jklingftm nigger
n/a takaci 2017-06-03
n/a menvaren 2017-06-03
Does anyone have the link where SRD banned incel drama and silvertongue absolutely lost her shit?
n/a 4chan_pol_ambassador 2017-06-03
i wish to hear more about this legalized rape idea some people are referring to