Um, this is the "Drama" subreddit, know what I'm saying, you probably just triggered some LGBT people with that slur. Make a Holocaust or an n-word joke instead, then you won't get downvoted, that kind of humour is acceptable here.
I wouldn't necessarily rule out the capacity of NEETs with a chip on their shoulder to engage in an organized harassment campaign. For many of them, it would literally be the most important thing they've ever done in their lives.
Which is...kinda pathetic, really, but still probably true.
Jews are disproportionately represented in the upper echelons of US media due to their high average IQ and willingness to hew to the MSM party lines. There's no mystery here.
I'm not saying there is. I just find it bizarre that that fact is considered anti Semitic. I mean, I get it in the context of history, but it rubs me the wrong way that it can't be said.
I think it's more like "excel in and thus dominate" rather than control, although I have heard from people working in some of the above that there's so nepotism, although that may be more familial than religious/tribal.
As cliched as it might sound, I'm generally most interested in getting at what's true. I care about the groups I'm part of and what I want to do, how I want society to be etc., but usually I want to know what reality is, and I think it does myself and other people the most good to know (on a long enough timescale). So I like to bring in facts or what I think are valid interpretations if I see somewhere they might be lacking.
As to a conspiracy, I would probably only go as far as saying that Jews have a traumatic codependent history with European societies that seems to have made them keenly aware that strong religious, national and biological identity amongst the white goyim is bad for them, and they seem generally to have reacted strongly to it for the past century at least. So they tend to have voted democrat and pushed for open borders while at the same time, as far as I know, tending to support Israel as a bolthole (and also because it's their native land). Their overinvolvement in communism probably comes down to antisemitism making it difficult for them to thrive in the pre-existing society (therefore the desire to overthrow it) and their high IQ and relative lack of scruples (surely this would be selected for culturally and genetically in a merchant and lending caste) making them better at being communists.
I think the only way we have of finding out whether something is a conspiracy or not is discussing the facts, not trying to criticise pointing them out. I'm particularly annoyed that in the desire to avoid holocausts, not offend people and become better persons (also to expand and stabilise the American empire, which, like all empires ends up multicultural), white people are uniquely expected to deny reality, and in fact not even broach any difficult questions, when it comes to human biological diversity, the (implied) uniquely evil actions of white people, the Second World War, challenges that white people face etc.
As to a conspiracy, I would probably only go as far as saying that Jews have a traumatic codependent history with European societies that seems to have made them keenly aware that strong religious, national and biological identity amongst the white goyim is bad for them
Holy shit. You do realize there is no Jewish leadership right? It's almost exclusively made up of small communities that act independently, correct? While many Jews do in fact react strongly towards powerful white and christian nationalism, that's only because said organizations have exclusively laid to attacks on Jews in a variety of forms. It's like saying that black people have become keenly aware that people in white hoods and robes are bad for them and react strongly.
So they tend to have voted democrat and pushed for open borders while at the same time, as far as I know, tending to support Israel as a bolthole (and also because it's their native land).
Lot to unpack in this. First, Jews can be super conservative depending on individual and denomination. I can guaran-fucking-tee you that an ultra-orthodox community will vote right in any given year (at least in the US).
Second, not all Jews support Israel and almost no conservative Jews support open borders. I have no idea where the fuck you're getting your data but it's pretty stupid source.
Their overinvolvement in communism probably comes down to antisemitism making it difficult for them to thrive in the pre-existing society (therefore the desire to overthrow it)
Actually it's because the ranks of the communists come from the academic classes, students and professors etc. Jews have an EXTREME focus on education in traditional culture, and thus almost always went to college when they could even when most of the world didn't.
relative lack of scruples (surely this would be selected for culturally and genetically in a merchant and lending caste)
This is just straight up anti-semitic garbage. Who the fuck told you that you can just assign millions of people such traits and call it genetic? Where are your peer-reviewed studies? Where are your surveys? Where is your gene-sequencing?
making them better at being communists
The only thing that makes you a better communist is naivete and corruption.
I think the only way we have of finding out whether something is a conspiracy or not is discussing the facts, not trying to criticise pointing them out.
The fact that you imply that there's a conspiracy of people who don't know each other but somehow communicate in trying to do.... something and have never once leaked this information despite coming from a wide variety of backgrounds and social classes?
when it comes to human biological diversity, the (implied) uniquely evil actions of white people, the context in which NatSoc Germany arose, problems that white people face etc.
You've completely lost me. What biological diversity? Have you discovered a certain gene that only black people, Jews, or Arabs have that makes their brain grow inferior differently?
I'm not implying the things you claim I'm implying. You don't need to zero in on every gene to make genetic claims. You're being dishonest, either only with me or with both of us. In terms of Ashkenazi genetic disorders, many are also associated with things that cause higher intelligence (see the wiki article on Ashkenazi genetic disorders. I think Steven Pinker has discussed the topic too.)
No, I do, but you've shown yourself to be dishonest. For example, I just gave you evidence even within the absurd standard you offered for genetic influence/determinism, and you still reply with that question.
You said "google the wiki article for Ashkenazi genetic disorders and it'll confirm kind of some of what I said". That's not proof, shifting the burden of proof doesn't make you right, or me dishonest.
I think the biggest difference is that my parents will care about a controversy involving CNN. As will the mainstream conservative talking heads like Tucker Carlson and Rush Limbaugh.
Honestly, even if they dox journalists' family members, what are they going to do? Call their employers and say 'hey just so u know x's dad works for CNN maybe you should fire them'? send pizzas and mormons? prank calls? unless they get creative (unlikely) or are willing to do some very illegal things, there's really not much that can happen even if people do get doxxed. It's not as powerful as people seem to think it is unless the person getting doxxed did or said something questionable.
The moment they try any of the traditional troll tactics like swatting and death threats all legitimate media that they depend on for their campaign to work will turn against them.
C'mon snally, you know better than this. Talking about /pol/ as an entity in a case like this and not the individual pollack is straight retarded because we have precedence. FBI will go after the individual, /pol/ will hail him as a martyr and move on and be inspired with religios zeal.
Talking about /pol/ as an entity in a case like this and not the individual pollack is straight retarded because we have precedence.
If there's a group causing a significant amount of problems, then the FBI may intervene. It really depends on the degree to which they start harassing CNN employees' acquaintances. If it gets bad enough then they might try and shut down operations, or at least siphon a lot more resources into identifying and taking down /pol/lutants who violate the law. I have it on good authority that they've been doing this to antifa groups.
Sure, if you ignore the fact that /baph/ on 8ch and other boards openly talk about swatting celebrities and did so when it was trendy and only some perps got caught by the poh-lice. Don't really wanna oldfag it up but I doubt the amount of pressure the FBI will place is gonna change unless they're as retarded as the kid who streamed himself using a VoIP to swat people, and he only got caught after 23 instances.
Kiwi Farms is actually a surprisingly liberal, tolerant community tbh. Pretty supportive of LGBT people, not antisemitic or particularly racist. It was...not what I expected.
It's really not far fetched that at some point the FBI might decide that there are simply too many problems coming from /pol/ and give the Japanese cops a call. It's not like there's not enough stuff there that they could use to justify such a decision. Hiro isn't going to sue.
Are we still assuming calls to action are being discussed on 4chan's /pol/? It won't even get off the ground. Nazi mods'll stop it from the get-go. 4chan will once again be a front of how incredibly terrible it is that people are getting SWATted and doxxed while they post gleefully on 8chan about it. In fact, posting raid calls or doxx on 4 is a month long ban or permaban instantly.
The only thing I think they could do that would be effective is dig up dirt on CNN employees and feed it into alt right twitter hustlers, brietbart and fox journalists. But even that doesn't really hurt CNN unless it's legitimately bad.
CNN benefits from the additional coverage and audience as well as liberals rallying round them, alt right hustlers benefit from the cash/exposure they will get and /pol/ benefits from another pulse of new members and an outlet for their autism. The US as whole continues to lose.
I think they will if something happens to a journalist or one of their families. Did you see the reaction form even sane journalists on twitter after that cnn gif, they were saying it was promoting violence against the press.
Do you really think there won't be anything? Journalists used to be edgy teenagers just like everyone else, and we're in an era where mature adults with real careers have embarrassing shit littered in archives and forums everywhere. This has already happened many times (examples: Jeb Lund, Arthur Chu's secret porn stash) and I'm sure there's plenty more idiots with embarrassing FetLife profiles or a furry Livejournal or something.
Plus there's the serious stuff, like plagiarism or tax fraud, which is actually pretty common at some level. Having the comment section of every article you write filled with people asking you about domestic abuse accusations during a messy divorce is going to have your bosses replacing you with some other poorly-paid journo for the next piece.
Even normal, largely law-abiding people have something to be hanged on.
people will be able to find hidden social media accounts or implicating things to begin with (may be true in most cases, but definitely not all)
employers actually care about standard fare like fetlife accounts or political arguments
employers are going to listen to a bunch of randoms contacting them out of the blue (particularly if it's obvious that they're on a witch hunt or that they're just going after the people in question because they have a friend or family member that works for CNN)
Most people's online footprint really isn't that interesting, and if something illegal that they did was uncovered, then who really cares if they get into trouble for it. There are also thousands of CNN employees with untold numbers of friends and family members; even /pol/'s NEET army won't be able to devote time to even most of them. Heavy users of 4chan and reddit think that dox is a big deal because they wouldn't want their own internet histories uncovered, but most people aren't going to care beyond the annoying prank calls and pizzas they might get.
a bigger chip on their shoulder than the average black person.
Despite having white privilege, and their not having jobs being 100% the Republican party's fault at this point in time.
I mean yes threatening doxxing of one person is bad.... but doxxing several other people is worse. This is not hard, folks. Two wrongs don't make a right.
So it's out of touch to declare popular hate symbols to be hate symbols. What, is racism so accepted nowadays? Looking at recent events it's not really surprising if the world is filled with so many degenerates calling out racism is out of touch.
It's showing that the media are out of touch, which they are. The original statement of the SPLC and ADL was met with laughter and mockery; it backfired completely. If you look at the original /r/nottheonion thread, you'll see that people agreed that it was everything T_D and /pol/ hoped for.
I repeat what i said; i hope you're older than 40.
They aren't calling out the white supremacists, they're calling out the means of communication. "Hate Symbol" is supposed to be for things like the Celtic Cross or, "White Pride Worldwide". Those symbols are noted for always being racist. In contrast, even r/neoliberal uses pepe memes.
This really shouldn't be considered a hill to die on for like, anyone, though. All the SLPC did was put out a brief educational on the background of the symbol and said it wasn't always clearly racist and that context had to be utilized.
When everything is racist nothing is. We've gotten to the point where people claim an inanimate cartoon frogs that Wendy's has tweeted as being racist. Sure there are some racist pepe pictures but I'm sure there are plenty of racist my little pony pics too. It's only relevant because pepe has become so popular with lots of different groups.
What level of alt right autism do you have to achieve to deny that stupid fucking frog has been coopted by the racists? MFW I spend all day explaining the swastika tattoo on my chest is actually a Buddhist symbol.
We need to march into churches and forcibly take away their crucifixes too. After all, the KKK burned some and made it a racist thing! So now all crosses are signs of deep white power centered hatred! So no one can have any!
In case it wasn't clear, I think you're a retarded baby.
The swastika was backed as an official symbol of Germany. That lends it some "legitimacy" as a cultural symbol which has been coopted. Cartoon frog began with wholly innocent intentions (I think?) and has been used by a large group of people, some hardcore racist, some just right-leaning.
I don't really care one way or the other about the designation of a stupid fucking frog; it's a cartoon, and I'm just an asshole, what do I know?
It's a cartoon frog guy, I'm sorry you're so easily triggered by drawings. Maybe the internet isn't for you, I'm sure mommy can find you some nice coloring books and put on some pbs cartoons for you.
Lol. Shit doesn't offend me, but you've got to be blind if you don't think it carries the connotation now. It's cool though I understand the purity of the meme is important to the NEETS
Do you have a link to that? I'm pretty sure they maintain a database of symbols used for hate. The symbols don't have to be exclusively hateful, but they keep track of them so when someone has them in a tattoo or something of that nature they have reference as to what it is.
Being on the ADL doesn't mean every use of the symbol is hateful (for example, the number 12 and 100% are on the list).
It's actually important for law enforcement tracking hate groups (and LE does use that database). A 50yo agent might not know what pepe is, but if he sees it on a white supremacist message board or tattooed he can check the database and see the history and meaning behind it.
Yea man it's just incidental that Hillary Clinton called Trump supporters Deplorable because they used Racist Pepes and then suddenly Pepe was added to the ADL
Maybe you should read that Dailybeast article again if you're lucky you'll be able to figure out why it's retarded the second time jk I know you didn't read it lol.
The point is identification. Law enforcement tracks those groups and takes pictures of them. When they take pictures, they analyze the tattoos and if possible identify what they mean.
"this is a leather coat. They've existed for awhile, but now Nazis are appropriating them for their signature Deathsquad chic look. Look for the Swastika, that's the key!"
Leathercoats aren't nazi symbols tho, pepe is a symbol that a lot of racist people use as a way to spread racist memes. Yeah pepe wasn't racist but it was coopted by racist people.
For a second I was like "Yeah, that 'Pepe is a hate symbol' shit was so stupid, I remember that. This guy is probably right." Then I read your name and realized you're that weird conspiracy theorist gamergate guy.
It'd be easier to list the things you've gotten right, because the only thing I've ever agreed with is that time you said pepperoni pizza is for uneducated plebeians.
The don't know why so many of you are surprised pepe got a bad rep, it was the toad it was going when the memestarted being used "ironically" by racist people.
That's not what the ADL is. The point of their list is for identification in context so when people are tagging things on social media or writing messages or getting tattoos people can understand what they mean
A pepe with a nazi hat going deus vult is anti-semitic. YOU DON'T SAY. It's not the pepe part of that equation that's the problem, and that's the issue.
You're missing the point. They agree with that. What they (and LE) do is identify symbols, their use, and their context. LE specifically does it so when they see a white supremacist with tattoos they can identify the meaning behind the symbols on their tattoos. If there is a new one, they identify it and add it. Like a dictionary, it's just a reference.
The number 12 is a numeric symbol for Aryan Brotherhood groups (as are the numbers 1 and 2 separately), especially the Aryan Brotherhood of Texas. Substituting letters for numbers, 12 equals AB, i.e., Aryan Brotherhood.
IT'S A HATE SYMBOL USED BY MISOGYNISTIC NEO-NAZIS ON REDDIT, 4CHAN AND SIMILAR BIGOTED CESSPOOL ON THE INTERNET.
ANYONE WHO USES THE "PEPE" MEME SHOULD, AND WILL BE DOXXED TO LEARN NOT TO BE SCUMBAGS, IF YOU POST ON /R/THE_ASSHOLE YOU DESERVE TO HAVE YOUR LIFE RUINED.
And of course, anyone who reads the actual thing will know that it's basically really just an encyclopedia dramatic entry explaining to normies what the fuck is up with the frog.
can we just skip to where people on the internet start retaliating and all these dorks that are smug about "consequences" right now have flipped again and are talking about free speech and free press
weev is retarded, /pol/ already has the info so he can't really make demands. They're just waiting for more info on their family and extended famiily so the op hits harder.
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n/a OniTan 2017-07-05
What about a yarmulke?
n/a BizarrelyRussophilic 2017-07-05
what a shitty fucking title
n/a lvl99SkrubRekker 2017-07-05
Deal with it you filthy pleb.
n/a Homer00025 2017-07-05
He (let's just be honest here) posts in the "socialism" subreddit...
n/a BizarrelyRussophilic 2017-07-05
yeah, and I'd do it again faggot
n/a EllenPaosFrontButt 2017-07-05
Keep Yourself Safe
n/a BizarrelyRussophilic 2017-07-05
Kill Yourself Yourself
n/a -a-y 2017-07-05
Please don't use your violent language
n/a greenrd 2017-07-05
Um, this is the "Drama" subreddit, know what I'm saying, you probably just triggered some LGBT people with that slur. Make a Holocaust or an n-word joke instead, then you won't get downvoted, that kind of humour is acceptable here.
n/a rome_apple 2017-07-05
kys
n/a 80BAIT08 2017-07-05
Auernheimer can't contain the weaponized autism of the chans.
n/a boyoyoyoyong 2017-07-05
These people meme'd a cheeto into the Whitehouse I'm thinking cnn ceases to exist by the end of the year
n/a telandrias 2017-07-05
Yeah CNN forcing apologies is a bold Strategy but I think it will work out fine for them.
n/a imaginarycreatures 2017-07-05
I wouldn't necessarily rule out the capacity of NEETs with a chip on their shoulder to engage in an organized harassment campaign. For many of them, it would literally be the most important thing they've ever done in their lives.
Which is...kinda pathetic, really, but still probably true.
n/a telandrias 2017-07-05
Yeah. It's probably going to be gamergate all over again. CNN will pretend they're victims and say the video is inciting violence and harassment.
n/a Neronoah 2017-07-05
They didn't help themselves making those MSM = Jews memes.
n/a AltRightRulesReddit 2017-07-05
>Unironically not caring about gamergate.
Alright, nerd.
n/a telandrias 2017-07-05
Caring about gamergate? You would just stand by and watch it happen again while innocent people get doxxed and video games are ruined for ever?
n/a Neronoah 2017-07-05
Neckbeards have shit tier taste in videogames. Fuck them.
n/a -a-y 2017-07-05
Msm are Jews
n/a greenrd 2017-07-05
Jews are disproportionately represented in the upper echelons of US media due to their high average IQ and willingness to hew to the MSM party lines. There's no mystery here.
n/a -a-y 2017-07-05
I'm not saying there is. I just find it bizarre that that fact is considered anti Semitic. I mean, I get it in the context of history, but it rubs me the wrong way that it can't be said.
n/a TehAlpacalypse 2017-07-05
WEW
n/a -a-y 2017-07-05
Journalism, film, academia, politics. Aside from that though, maybe just finance.
n/a Ardvarkeating101 2017-07-05
That's like saying christians control orthodox Christian's control Russia or Indians rule the street-cleaning industry
n/a -a-y 2017-07-05
I think it's more like "excel in and thus dominate" rather than control, although I have heard from people working in some of the above that there's so nepotism, although that may be more familial than religious/tribal.
n/a Ardvarkeating101 2017-07-05
You mean that, but people who say Jews control the media are almost exclusively implying some sort of conspiracy.
n/a -a-y 2017-07-05
As cliched as it might sound, I'm generally most interested in getting at what's true. I care about the groups I'm part of and what I want to do, how I want society to be etc., but usually I want to know what reality is, and I think it does myself and other people the most good to know (on a long enough timescale). So I like to bring in facts or what I think are valid interpretations if I see somewhere they might be lacking. As to a conspiracy, I would probably only go as far as saying that Jews have a traumatic codependent history with European societies that seems to have made them keenly aware that strong religious, national and biological identity amongst the white goyim is bad for them, and they seem generally to have reacted strongly to it for the past century at least. So they tend to have voted democrat and pushed for open borders while at the same time, as far as I know, tending to support Israel as a bolthole (and also because it's their native land). Their overinvolvement in communism probably comes down to antisemitism making it difficult for them to thrive in the pre-existing society (therefore the desire to overthrow it) and their high IQ and relative lack of scruples (surely this would be selected for culturally and genetically in a merchant and lending caste) making them better at being communists. I think the only way we have of finding out whether something is a conspiracy or not is discussing the facts, not trying to criticise pointing them out. I'm particularly annoyed that in the desire to avoid holocausts, not offend people and become better persons (also to expand and stabilise the American empire, which, like all empires ends up multicultural), white people are uniquely expected to deny reality, and in fact not even broach any difficult questions, when it comes to human biological diversity, the (implied) uniquely evil actions of white people, the Second World War, challenges that white people face etc.
n/a Ardvarkeating101 2017-07-05
Holy shit. You do realize there is no Jewish leadership right? It's almost exclusively made up of small communities that act independently, correct? While many Jews do in fact react strongly towards powerful white and christian nationalism, that's only because said organizations have exclusively laid to attacks on Jews in a variety of forms. It's like saying that black people have become keenly aware that people in white hoods and robes are bad for them and react strongly.
Lot to unpack in this. First, Jews can be super conservative depending on individual and denomination. I can guaran-fucking-tee you that an ultra-orthodox community will vote right in any given year (at least in the US).
Second, not all Jews support Israel and almost no conservative Jews support open borders. I have no idea where the fuck you're getting your data but it's pretty stupid source.
Actually it's because the ranks of the communists come from the academic classes, students and professors etc. Jews have an EXTREME focus on education in traditional culture, and thus almost always went to college when they could even when most of the world didn't.
This is just straight up anti-semitic garbage. Who the fuck told you that you can just assign millions of people such traits and call it genetic? Where are your peer-reviewed studies? Where are your surveys? Where is your gene-sequencing?
The only thing that makes you a better communist is naivete and corruption.
The fact that you imply that there's a conspiracy of people who don't know each other but somehow communicate in trying to do.... something and have never once leaked this information despite coming from a wide variety of backgrounds and social classes?
You've completely lost me. What biological diversity? Have you discovered a certain gene that only black people, Jews, or Arabs have that makes their brain grow
inferiordifferently?n/a -a-y 2017-07-05
I'm not implying the things you claim I'm implying. You don't need to zero in on every gene to make genetic claims. You're being dishonest, either only with me or with both of us. In terms of Ashkenazi genetic disorders, many are also associated with things that cause higher intelligence (see the wiki article on Ashkenazi genetic disorders. I think Steven Pinker has discussed the topic too.)
n/a Ardvarkeating101 2017-07-05
So you just ignore the fact that you don't have any evidence for anything you're purporting?
n/a -a-y 2017-07-05
No, I do, but you've shown yourself to be dishonest. For example, I just gave you evidence even within the absurd standard you offered for genetic influence/determinism, and you still reply with that question.
n/a Ardvarkeating101 2017-07-05
You said "google the wiki article for Ashkenazi genetic disorders and it'll confirm kind of some of what I said". That's not proof, shifting the burden of proof doesn't make you right, or me dishonest.
n/a Imgur_Lurker 2017-07-05
They already did.
n/a telandrias 2017-07-05
Well yeah.
But they're going to use the harassment they receive as proof of the "violence" that video brought to them.
n/a imaginarycreatures 2017-07-05
I think the biggest difference is that my parents will care about a controversy involving CNN. As will the mainstream conservative talking heads like Tucker Carlson and Rush Limbaugh.
n/a snallygaster 2017-07-05
Honestly, even if they dox journalists' family members, what are they going to do? Call their employers and say 'hey just so u know x's dad works for CNN maybe you should fire them'? send pizzas and mormons? prank calls? unless they get creative (unlikely) or are willing to do some very illegal things, there's really not much that can happen even if people do get doxxed. It's not as powerful as people seem to think it is unless the person getting doxxed did or said something questionable.
n/a elwombat 2017-07-05
SWATing comes to mind as a very easy thing for idiots to do.
n/a michgot 2017-07-05
Hopefully they try that.
n/a lurker093287h 2017-07-05
The moment they try any of the traditional troll tactics like swatting and death threats all legitimate media that they depend on for their campaign to work will turn against them.
n/a elwombat 2017-07-05
(((They)))? It only takes one idiot to do it.
n/a snallygaster 2017-07-05
If there's a spate of swatting against CNN employees' family members, /pol/ is gonna be in deep shit. The FBI isn't going to take that lightly.
n/a michgot 2017-07-05
C'mon snally, you know better than this. Talking about /pol/ as an entity in a case like this and not the individual pollack is straight retarded because we have precedence. FBI will go after the individual, /pol/ will hail him as a martyr and move on and be inspired with religios zeal.
n/a snallygaster 2017-07-05
If there's a group causing a significant amount of problems, then the FBI may intervene. It really depends on the degree to which they start harassing CNN employees' acquaintances. If it gets bad enough then they might try and shut down operations, or at least siphon a lot more resources into identifying and taking down /pol/lutants who violate the law. I have it on good authority that they've been doing this to antifa groups.
n/a michgot 2017-07-05
Sure, if you ignore the fact that /baph/ on 8ch and other boards openly talk about swatting celebrities and did so when it was trendy and only some perps got caught by the poh-lice. Don't really wanna oldfag it up but I doubt the amount of pressure the FBI will place is gonna change unless they're as retarded as the kid who streamed himself using a VoIP to swat people, and he only got caught after 23 instances.
n/a cimarafa 2017-07-05
Kiwi Farms is actually a surprisingly liberal, tolerant community tbh. Pretty supportive of LGBT people, not antisemitic or particularly racist. It was...not what I expected.
n/a cimarafa 2017-07-05
It's really not far fetched that at some point the FBI might decide that there are simply too many problems coming from /pol/ and give the Japanese cops a call. It's not like there's not enough stuff there that they could use to justify such a decision. Hiro isn't going to sue.
n/a michgot 2017-07-05
Are we still assuming calls to action are being discussed on 4chan's /pol/? It won't even get off the ground. Nazi mods'll stop it from the get-go. 4chan will once again be a front of how incredibly terrible it is that people are getting SWATted and doxxed while they post gleefully on 8chan about it. In fact, posting raid calls or doxx on 4 is a month long ban or permaban instantly.
n/a cimarafa 2017-07-05
I'm not talking about calls to action - but even just the "some of you guys are alright..." posts are probably enough.
n/a lurker093287h 2017-07-05
The only thing I think they could do that would be effective is dig up dirt on CNN employees and feed it into alt right twitter hustlers, brietbart and fox journalists. But even that doesn't really hurt CNN unless it's legitimately bad.
CNN benefits from the additional coverage and audience as well as liberals rallying round them, alt right hustlers benefit from the cash/exposure they will get and /pol/ benefits from another pulse of new members and an outlet for their autism. The US as whole continues to lose.
n/a die_rattin 2017-07-05
I don't think there'll be anyone rallying around CNN after they got caught on camera calling their viewers a bunch of idiots.
n/a lurker093287h 2017-07-05
I think they will if something happens to a journalist or one of their families. Did you see the reaction form even sane journalists on twitter after that cnn gif, they were saying it was promoting violence against the press.
n/a michgot 2017-07-05
(((sane)))
n/a die_rattin 2017-07-05
Do you really think there won't be anything? Journalists used to be edgy teenagers just like everyone else, and we're in an era where mature adults with real careers have embarrassing shit littered in archives and forums everywhere. This has already happened many times (examples: Jeb Lund, Arthur Chu's secret porn stash) and I'm sure there's plenty more idiots with embarrassing FetLife profiles or a furry Livejournal or something.
Plus there's the serious stuff, like plagiarism or tax fraud, which is actually pretty common at some level. Having the comment section of every article you write filled with people asking you about domestic abuse accusations during a messy divorce is going to have your bosses replacing you with some other poorly-paid journo for the next piece.
Even normal, largely law-abiding people have something to be hanged on.
n/a snallygaster 2017-07-05
You're assuming that:
Most people's online footprint really isn't that interesting, and if something illegal that they did was uncovered, then who really cares if they get into trouble for it. There are also thousands of CNN employees with untold numbers of friends and family members; even /pol/'s NEET army won't be able to devote time to even most of them. Heavy users of 4chan and reddit think that dox is a big deal because they wouldn't want their own internet histories uncovered, but most people aren't going to care beyond the annoying prank calls and pizzas they might get.
n/a greenrd 2017-07-05
a bigger chip on their shoulder than the average black person.
Despite having white privilege, and their not having jobs being 100% the Republican party's fault at this point in time.
I mean yes threatening doxxing of one person is bad.... but doxxing several other people is worse. This is not hard, folks. Two wrongs don't make a right.
n/a TheGreatWolfRuss 2017-07-05
yeah CNN is totally gonna vanish after the massive outrage from people that don't watch CNN in the first place.
n/a Ultrashitpost 2017-07-05
SPLC (known from declaring Pepe the frog a hate symbol)
n/a CucksLoveTrump 2017-07-05
A anthropomorphic frog is racist?! Why did no one tell me?! I've been memeing racism all this time?!!!1
n/a NotYetRegistered 2017-07-05
Well yeah Pepe has been used for a lot of white supremacist imagery.
n/a Ultrashitpost 2017-07-05
And a lot of memes in general. So the natural thng to do is to declare it a hate symbol and have the world know you're a fucking moron.
n/a NotYetRegistered 2017-07-05
If a meme is used as hate symbol, then yes the obvious thing to do is to say it's a hate symbol.
n/a Ultrashitpost 2017-07-05
So if i made a spurdo image with an SS outfit and sent it to the SPLC, you'd say they should report it as a hate symbol?
Because the only thing this'll achieve is make the world know that the SPLC is out of touch.
n/a NotYetRegistered 2017-07-05
If making spurdo's in SS outfits was a popular trend then it should be declared a hate symbol.
n/a Ultrashitpost 2017-07-05
It is a popular trend, and it shows you are also out of touch. I hope for your sake that you're older than 40.
n/a NotYetRegistered 2017-07-05
So it's out of touch to declare popular hate symbols to be hate symbols. What, is racism so accepted nowadays? Looking at recent events it's not really surprising if the world is filled with so many degenerates calling out racism is out of touch.
n/a Ultrashitpost 2017-07-05
Yeah bro, calling out cartoon memes is the way to go. Keep up the good fight, i'm sure you'll win soon enough.
Christ
n/a NotYetRegistered 2017-07-05
"Wtf why are you calling out white supremacists using a popular means of communication to propagate a racist message???"
n/a Ultrashitpost 2017-07-05
It's showing that the media are out of touch, which they are. The original statement of the SPLC and ADL was met with laughter and mockery; it backfired completely. If you look at the original /r/nottheonion thread, you'll see that people agreed that it was everything T_D and /pol/ hoped for.
I repeat what i said; i hope you're older than 40.
n/a grafton29 2017-07-05
That's not how memes work, your intention doesn't matter if a symbol starts actually being used to designate a certain ideology.
n/a SlavophilesAnonymous 2017-07-05
They aren't calling out the white supremacists, they're calling out the means of communication. "Hate Symbol" is supposed to be for things like the Celtic Cross or, "White Pride Worldwide". Those symbols are noted for always being racist. In contrast, even r/neoliberal uses pepe memes.
n/a khanfusion 2017-07-05
Did you even look at the SLPC's page on it?
n/a Ls777 2017-07-05
That's not the only type of symbol that the adl catalogues
n/a EarnestNoMeta 2017-07-05
Lol you're a retard
n/a _narrows 2017-07-05
I think the point he was trying to make is the seeming inability for the outraged (both left AND right) to choose the hills they wish to die on.
n/a khanfusion 2017-07-05
This really shouldn't be considered a hill to die on for like, anyone, though. All the SLPC did was put out a brief educational on the background of the symbol and said it wasn't always clearly racist and that context had to be utilized.
n/a _narrows 2017-07-05
You're right. We have reached offended meta though, so you should commit sudoku for even mentioning that ((organization)) (Jew Jew Jew)
n/a zwiebelhans 2017-07-05
Omg.. So many new liberal serious posters here now. You got your work cut out for you.
n/a boyoyoyoyong 2017-07-05
When everything is racist nothing is. We've gotten to the point where people claim an inanimate cartoon frogs that Wendy's has tweeted as being racist. Sure there are some racist pepe pictures but I'm sure there are plenty of racist my little pony pics too. It's only relevant because pepe has become so popular with lots of different groups.
n/a Ikkinn 2017-07-05
What level of alt right autism do you have to achieve to deny that stupid fucking frog has been coopted by the racists? MFW I spend all day explaining the swastika tattoo on my chest is actually a Buddhist symbol.
n/a redfield021767 2017-07-05
We need to march into churches and forcibly take away their crucifixes too. After all, the KKK burned some and made it a racist thing! So now all crosses are signs of deep white power centered hatred! So no one can have any!
In case it wasn't clear, I think you're a retarded baby.
n/a _narrows 2017-07-05
The swastika was backed as an official symbol of Germany. That lends it some "legitimacy" as a cultural symbol which has been coopted. Cartoon frog began with wholly innocent intentions (I think?) and has been used by a large group of people, some hardcore racist, some just right-leaning.
I don't really care one way or the other about the designation of a stupid fucking frog; it's a cartoon, and I'm just an asshole, what do I know?
n/a boyoyoyoyong 2017-07-05
It's a cartoon frog guy, I'm sorry you're so easily triggered by drawings. Maybe the internet isn't for you, I'm sure mommy can find you some nice coloring books and put on some pbs cartoons for you.
n/a Ikkinn 2017-07-05
Lol. Shit doesn't offend me, but you've got to be blind if you don't think it carries the connotation now. It's cool though I understand the purity of the meme is important to the NEETS
n/a AltRightRulesReddit 2017-07-05
RACIST
FROG
MEMES
OH MY GOD WHAT WILL THE ALT RIGHT INVENT NEXT
n/a grafton29 2017-07-05
Well a racist movememt would make racist memes.
n/a zwiebelhans 2017-07-05
Where the fuck are all these dumb judgemental people coming from. What retarded thread dragged all this in?1
n/a Ikkinn 2017-07-05
You think I'm new?
n/a zwiebelhans 2017-07-05
Sure. Why the fuck not.
n/a knottedfate 2017-07-05
Pepe died for you people, the creator killed him off because everyone kept saying he was a nazi symbol so he died in the latest comic.
n/a khanfusion 2017-07-05
lol
"Would you say this thing is a hate symbol?"
"It would if it were popular enough to warrant attention, yes."
"WELL IT IS POPULAR ENOUGH!!! HA FOOLED YOU!"
So wtf is spurdo, anyway?
n/a grafton29 2017-07-05
Have you ever thought that maybe you are just wrong?
n/a Ultrashitpost 2017-07-05
no
n/a scatmunchies 2017-07-05
Sop trying to put things in context, faggot.
n/a cheers_grills 2017-07-05
I wonder about making Obama in SS outfit a maymay.
n/a Clark_Savage_Jr 2017-07-05
You can't just make a maymay. It's alegal.
n/a Sarge_Ward 2017-07-05
imagine believing this
n/a strathmeyer 2017-07-05
You should ask your therapist what kind of person gets unreasonably upset when others talk about them.
n/a grafton29 2017-07-05
If you make spurdo famous by largerly using nazi imagery then yeah the meme would become racist.
n/a HINDBRAIN 2017-07-05
Some posts on reddit are racists so stop posting please.
n/a captainpriapism 2017-07-05
if someone covered something you like in swastikas does that mean youre a nazi
n/a NotYetRegistered 2017-07-05
Probably yes.
n/a gurgle528 2017-07-05
Do you have a link to that? I'm pretty sure they maintain a database of symbols used for hate. The symbols don't have to be exclusively hateful, but they keep track of them so when someone has them in a tattoo or something of that nature they have reference as to what it is.
n/a gurgle528 2017-07-05
They reported that the ADL added it:
https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2016/09/28/pepe-joins-echoes-new-hate-symbols
Being on the ADL doesn't mean every use of the symbol is hateful (for example, the number 12 and 100% are on the list).
It's actually important for law enforcement tracking hate groups (and LE does use that database). A 50yo agent might not know what pepe is, but if he sees it on a white supremacist message board or tattooed he can check the database and see the history and meaning behind it.
n/a _narrows 2017-07-05
Excellent point
n/a ZimeaglaZ 2017-07-05
Yes, lots of pepe tats floating around out there.
n/a Lumene 2017-07-05
So a symbol, used in a hateful way, can be hateful.
Thanks ADL for clearing that up, I learned a lot today.
n/a khanfusion 2017-07-05
It's primary goal was to identify and educate about the symbol in question. Not sure why that's so controversial or mock worthy.
n/a Imgur_Lurker 2017-07-05
This is horrifying.
Yes.
n/a khanfusion 2017-07-05
?
n/a Imgur_Lurker 2017-07-05
https://www.hillaryclinton.com/feed/donald-trump-pepe-the-frog-and-white-supremacists-an-explainer/
http://www.thedailybeast.com/how-pepe-the-frog-became-a-nazi-trump-supporter-and-alt-right-symbol
This "article" is why Pepe was added to the ADL
Maybe if you read the article you'll be able to figure out why it's fucking retarded or some light googling.
Anyone who seriously claims Pepe is racist is still being trolled like an entire year later, it's just embarrassing at this point.
n/a khanfusion 2017-07-05
What? No, that's just incidental.
n/a itsaboyffxiv 2017-07-05
You're on a roll today, butter.
n/a Imgur_Lurker 2017-07-05
Yea man it's just incidental that Hillary Clinton called Trump supporters Deplorable because they used Racist Pepes and then suddenly Pepe was added to the ADL
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HoLDX6RHTY4
Maybe you should read that Dailybeast article again if you're lucky you'll be able to figure out why it's retarded the second time jk I know you didn't read it lol.
n/a Lumene 2017-07-05
Because it's like saying leather coats are nazi uniforms because Nazi's wore them. It says nothing.
n/a khanfusion 2017-07-05
The source explicitly says that context is critical and that Pepe memes aren't automatically hate symbols.
n/a RollJaysCU 2017-07-05
Literally anything can be hateful based on context so what's the point?
n/a gurgle528 2017-07-05
The point is identification. Law enforcement tracks those groups and takes pictures of them. When they take pictures, they analyze the tattoos and if possible identify what they mean.
n/a grungebot5000 2017-07-05
because people like Hillary Clinton's campaign manager are gonna ID it as a hate symbol anyway so you might as well set the record straight
n/a grungebot5000 2017-07-05
more like
"this is a leather coat. They've existed for awhile, but now Nazis are appropriating them for their signature Deathsquad chic look. Look for the Swastika, that's the key!"
n/a grafton29 2017-07-05
Leathercoats aren't nazi symbols tho, pepe is a symbol that a lot of racist people use as a way to spread racist memes. Yeah pepe wasn't racist but it was coopted by racist people.
n/a itsaboyffxiv 2017-07-05
it hasn't been co-opted, i still use it here
n/a Kekistanian9000 2017-07-05
omg those exist?
n/a captainpriapism 2017-07-05
if by "educate" you mean "perpetuate a hilariously dumb conspiracy theory that helps the people youre trying to accuse" then sure
n/a khanfusion 2017-07-05
Did you even look at the thing?
n/a captainpriapism 2017-07-05
yeah i remember when it happened and i thought it was a joke
also
this guy is a fraud and says everything is hate speech
the adl expects people to accept something is "hate" without proof, because asking for proof of hate is seen as bigoted
pepe memes are not hate speech nor white supremacy, just like if i drew a hitler moustache on the adl guy it doesnt make him a nazi
n/a Karmaisforsuckers 2017-07-05
White women will never find you attractive
n/a captainpriapism 2017-07-05
women will like what i tell them to like
n/a Karmaisforsuckers 2017-07-05
I guess you must only tell women to change seats when you sit next to them on the bus then.
n/a captainpriapism 2017-07-05
gotta put my feet somewhere
n/a 1989Batman 2017-07-05
For a second I was like "Yeah, that 'Pepe is a hate symbol' shit was so stupid, I remember that. This guy is probably right." Then I read your name and realized you're that weird conspiracy theorist gamergate guy.
n/a captainpriapism 2017-07-05
feel free to tell me something ive been wrong about so far
n/a SamWhite 2017-07-05
You've never been right.
n/a captainpriapism 2017-07-05
not an actual answer
n/a DannyLee90 2017-07-05
It'd be easier to list the things you've gotten right, because the only thing I've ever agreed with is that time you said pepperoni pizza is for uneducated plebeians.
n/a 1989Batman 2017-07-05
Your entire life.
n/a captainpriapism 2017-07-05
lol who gets this bitter over internet posts
n/a flipkt 2017-07-05
Racists using Pepe is a "conspiracy theory" and then you go to infowars for "unbiased news". No way you guys don't have brain damage.
n/a captainpriapism 2017-07-05
racists also breathe air, better stop before you turn into a racist
the fuck are you even talking about lol
n/a grafton29 2017-07-05
The don't know why so many of you are surprised pepe got a bad rep, it was the toad it was going when the memestarted being used "ironically" by racist people.
n/a itsaboyffxiv 2017-07-05
Yeah, that was the dumbest of the dumb. I get what they're trying to do, but when it's that moronic, just don't.
n/a gurgle528 2017-07-05
That's not what the ADL is. The point of their list is for identification in context so when people are tagging things on social media or writing messages or getting tattoos people can understand what they mean
n/a Lumene 2017-07-05
A pepe with a nazi hat going deus vult is anti-semitic. YOU DON'T SAY. It's not the pepe part of that equation that's the problem, and that's the issue.
n/a gurgle528 2017-07-05
You're missing the point. They agree with that. What they (and LE) do is identify symbols, their use, and their context. LE specifically does it so when they see a white supremacist with tattoos they can identify the meaning behind the symbols on their tattoos. If there is a new one, they identify it and add it. Like a dictionary, it's just a reference.
n/a zahlman 2017-07-05
wat
n/a Clark_Savage_Jr 2017-07-05
I know the reason for 14 and 88, but 12 is a mystery.
n/a gurgle528 2017-07-05
n/a captainpriapism 2017-07-05
fyi hate speech isnt a real thing and the splc and adl are joke organisations
lol all those jail gangs covered in pepe
n/a greenrd 2017-07-05
Of course it is. It's just not a legal term in the US.
n/a gurgle528 2017-07-05
The ADL is used by LE
n/a Clark_Savage_Jr 2017-07-05
If you have a Pepe tattoo, whatever happens with LE is on you.
n/a AnnArchist 2017-07-05
Also - they declared another sub I help moderate a hate group. the SPLC has outlived its usefulness
n/a flipkt 2017-07-05
LOL
n/a LSU_Coonass 2017-07-05
checks profile
sees hes a mod of mensrights
I dislike feminism as much as the next white guy from the south but LOL at u
n/a SpectroSpecter 2017-07-05
It is my understanding that black men tend to hold un-feminist viewpoints as well
It should be noted that my understanding of black men comes from listening to "mama said knock you out" over and over
n/a BEHEAD_DRUMPF 2017-07-05
IT'S A HATE SYMBOL USED BY MISOGYNISTIC NEO-NAZIS ON REDDIT, 4CHAN AND SIMILAR BIGOTED CESSPOOL ON THE INTERNET.
ANYONE WHO USES THE "PEPE" MEME SHOULD, AND WILL BE DOXXED TO LEARN NOT TO BE SCUMBAGS, IF YOU POST ON /R/THE_ASSHOLE YOU DESERVE TO HAVE YOUR LIFE RUINED.
n/a King-Achelexus 2017-07-05
Another reasonable post by reasonable redditor /u/BEHEAD_DRUMPF
n/a khanfusion 2017-07-05
And of course, anyone who reads the actual thing will know that it's basically really just an encyclopedia dramatic entry explaining to normies what the fuck is up with the frog.
n/a Nerdlinger 2017-07-05
"Forbade"
n/a lvl99SkrubRekker 2017-07-05
Meh, I was drinking and shitposting through my phone. Sue me.
n/a lokichilde 2017-07-05
That explains why this has been a hilariously terrible shitshow.
n/a michgot 2017-07-05
Dunno what yer talking about fam. This drama bretty gud.
n/a lokichilde 2017-07-05
Hilariously terrible shitshow = A+ drama
n/a Cloacalla_Festival 2017-07-05
If you had told me ten years ago that the SPLC would be the bad guys and the Daily Stormer would be the good guys
n/a VALUABLEDISCOURSE 2017-07-05
If that's how you feel you should reevaluate your position.
n/a EarnestNoMeta 2017-07-05
Your username is repugnant. Self aggrandizing. Delusional. Masterbatory horseshit. Literally sucking your own cock. I fucking hate you.
n/a VALUABLEDISCOURSE 2017-07-05
Thanks for your input angry Internet giy
n/a EarnestNoMeta 2017-07-05
Go kill yourself
n/a Sebaceous_Sebacious 2017-07-05
Keep Yourself Safe
n/a ProfessedBug 2017-07-05
Kill yourself.
n/a EternallyMiffed 2017-07-05
Learn to fly without a parachute.
n/a Sebaceous_Sebacious 2017-07-05
Agreed
n/a Neronoah 2017-07-05
I think ten years ago you would have thought the same.
n/a Cloacalla_Festival 2017-07-05
I think ten years ago you would have been an appropriate age for your MLP obsession.
n/a Neronoah 2017-07-05
Still better than your shameful fetishes.
n/a AltRightRulesReddit 2017-07-05
Wow, nice kink shaming.
n/a Neronoah 2017-07-05
You know he deserves it.
n/a rome_apple 2017-07-05
You would believe it because you're a retarded gullible cuck
n/a Cloacalla_Festival 2017-07-05
Well, I was a liberal then.
n/a snallygaster 2017-07-05
great, are we giving that hairy little gnome attention now?
n/a lvl99SkrubRekker 2017-07-05
Yes, yes we are.
n/a rome_apple 2017-07-05
haha what a worthless cuck
n/a riemann1413 2017-07-05
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OiRMDDSzp2Y
n/a snallygaster 2017-07-05
why tho
n/a riemann1413 2017-07-05
idk.
childish gambino has some high highs, and some extraordinarily low lows. it's no surprise he's retiring the character l😂l
n/a sodiummuffin 2017-07-05
Shocking to see neo-nazi site The Daily Stormer sink to the same level as CNN.
n/a Bane047 2017-07-05
Fight fire with fire as far as I'm concerned. If I were to deliver a low blow to someone then I'd expect them to do the same to me in return.
n/a captainpriapism 2017-07-05
can we just skip to where people on the internet start retaliating and all these dorks that are smug about "consequences" right now have flipped again and are talking about free speech and free press
because that will happen
n/a AltRightRulesReddit 2017-07-05
>ugly white guy talks about other people getting consequences >gets busted for child porn
Happens more often than you think.
n/a youcanteatbullets 2017-07-05
Why don't they just call the cyberpolice? Consequences will never be the same
n/a die_rattin 2017-07-05
Except this is Weev, you know, the dude with established chops who already has nothing to lose.
n/a -a-y 2017-07-05
They'll just say we need hatespeech laws and laws against harassment, but which they mean all criticism and insults
n/a itsaboyffxiv 2017-07-05
Weev, you fucking idiot
n/a Kysbu 2017-07-05
I mean, its not like thats a high standard. Its like being the smartest kid with down's
n/a falsevillain 2017-07-05
If the world blew up tomorrow, I wouldn't mind.
n/a michgot 2017-07-05
weev is retarded, /pol/ already has the info so he can't really make demands. They're just waiting for more info on their family and extended famiily so the op hits harder.
n/a OniTan 2017-07-05
Oy vey, this meshugenah goyim!