I sexually💦Identify⚖️as wanting😩to😂die🗡💉. Ever since I was a🙇boy😋I dreamed🤔of making🔨a noose💀and stand🚽large🍆😏enough to end⚰️my sad😢life👻. People👨👨👦say👅to me that a person👨wanting to die💀👻is Impossible😳and I'm😤fucking😱retarded🤤but I don't care🤷♂️, I'm dead👻inside😩. I'm having a surgeon👨⚕️install💾AIDS💉, 30 types✋️of cancer😂and failing💀organs❤️into😩me. From now on🤖I want you👊guys👬to call me🤙"dead"💀and respect✊️my right➡️to die💀at anytime⏱and commit😂suicide👻. If you👊can't accept me😠you're a necrophobe💀🚫and need😫to check✔️your living🌱privilege👑. Thank you❤️for being so understanding.
Well 12 year olds are mentally unstable so they shouldn't be deciding what genitals they prefer to have when they can't even decide what fucking cartoon to finish watching
IME, there's usually only one or two doctors in the area that are willing to prescribe these treatments but they'll do it for pretty much anyone who walks in.
I think it's more a mix of (1) docs who like having a steady stream of niche customers same as pill mills or MMJ and (2) true believers who would never question anything ever. Docs who don't want to deal with a particular type of patients just refuse them or refer them to someone else.
Kind of like the majority of medical marijuana scripts. Some legitimate ones of course exist but a lot of getting one is knowing which doctors write them for nothing.
Or that trans activism has left them feeling that you can't ignore "trans children" despite studies showing that the majority end up cis.
I suspect it's this. No doctor or hospital wants a flood of hysterical leftists and trans activists protesting them.
It seems a lot like they saw what they wanted to see.
On that note, I wonder how much influence the kid's parents had in the decision? 100% chance the kid comes from a household with parents who have some pretty wacky beliefs.
Or that trans activism has left them feeling that you can't ignore "trans children" despite studies showing that the majority end up cis.
Think about it like this: fucking up the life of some kid who turned out to be cis is really not a big problem, because he's privileged af anyways. In fact it could be considered a good thing, since it gives him better appreciation for the struggle of trans folk.
Definitely. We could also amputate the legs of cis-het white male children, because they're "privileged af" anyway. In fact, it could be considered a good thing, since it gives him better appreciation for the struggle of disabled folk.
I'm guessing that you just assumed the /s shouldn't be necessary, since the position you're advocating is horrifying. If that's the case, I guess I missed the joke-- but I've stumbled into enough crazy Tumblr posts to know that these sorts of arguments are actually defended by a vocal few.
It's a Latinate prefix. It's not a whole word, and using it still implies that whatever is 'trans' is still 'on the other side' from the user.
But this implies trans is not normal, which makes the whole effort to use cia/trans to 'normalize' transsexuality kind of dumb.
Cis in chemistry implies a certain version of an isomer. Anyway, this:
It's not a whole word, and using it still implies that whatever is 'trans' is still 'on the other side' from the user. But this implies trans is not normal
.. is not even close to correct.
I don't care about this autistic gender shit though, I was just making a chemistry joke.
using it still implies that whatever is 'trans' is still 'on the other side' from the user
I've always heard that 'trans' is supposed to imply that what you identify as and what your sex is don't match up (aren't on the same side), so 'cis' would imply that what you identify as and what your sex is are on the same side.
I don't think it has anything to do with the relationship between the speaker and the person being described.
I mean, this is really the logical outcome of the "gender is 100% a social construct"shit that they're pushing. There's no such thing as a tomboy or a boy liking girly things anymore... you must actually just be the other gender entirely instead.
It's too late, he's gonna have a micropenis. That happens with puberty blockers too; that jazz trans kid with a tv show can't have bottom surgery because her wang never grew past child size.
It's kind of hilarious and sad that trans activists claim that going on this chemical that prevents you from having puberty is completely reversible with no long-term effects, when the science for that claim is essentially that there's been no study on it because these drugs are all shadily prescribed off label.
I'm betting trannies want him to kill himself. This way it increases the statistics of trans suicides they always use to get attention and pity, while removing someone who might talk about regretting transition for a long time.
There's an ultra creepy trans woman who delivers grubhub/uber eats from time to time. They always get lost on their way to my apartment, call for directions and mess it up anyway, talk/swear/yell to themselves when they're on the phone with me, and just be an all around mess. They're constantly angry and seem on the verge of snapping at any moment. That's male aggression for you. If I were a woman I would NOT feel okay with this person getting close to my home.
I don't do that. My mom took me to the place where confused people go and I did some tests. The government decided to assign someone who helps me out with outside stuff.
Well, I should be more clear: There's literally no evidence for the claim that the effects of puberty blockers are reversible, which is the #1 "safety" justification for using these things on young children.
Like I guess we can argue about where the standard of proof lies but the idea that we're just going to assume without proof that this chemical that prevents your body from undergoing a major, major physiological change at the normal time has no lasting effects is insanely irresponsible. For instance, this person https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KuS_L9R8fCo is on puberty blockers and didn't develop normal male genitalia, there's no evidence whatsover that if she went off the blockers things would go back to normal.
If trans diagnosis was 100% accurate and transition was 100% the best treatment hormones during puberty is the ideal option because it prevents the pretty much irreversible effects of puberty of the "wrong" sex on the body. Now them ifs are pretty big so only a real moron would actually go through with it.
I'm all for transitioning if and when there's enough evidence and verity that said person transitions, to prevent things like this happening. Age is a hugely important factor, as is the parents
Have less of a stigma on androgyny and loosen gender norms in general. If it's truly the physical dysphoria of having the "wrong" junk then transitioning makes sense but it seems like the most extreme option for something we truly don't understand.
Let me be clear, adults should be allowed to do whatever shit they want to to their own bodies, on the condition that it doesn't negatively impact anyone else.
of the options and long term consequences involved, yeah it's the best option
like, for schizos, the best way to get rid of the hallucinations is a bullet between the eyes but since there's no cure the next best thing is a way to cope with what's happening, and when it comes to transgender people, transitioning is the most effective approach.
Except for you know, the large percent that off themselves? But I guess they probably don't answer polls, assuming you're citing polls and not just pulling that "fact" out of your ass.
that woman with biid that poured bleach in her eyes to blind herself because she identified as a blind person was pretty happy too, doesnt mean we should enable it
the large preponderance of evidence shows that it's not but (most of the loudest) trans activists care more about protecting the trans identity than protecting kids, so they want to deny the instability of gender identity (ironic!) among minors and insist that gender dysphoria in minors is properly treated by sex transition
Never, it was too long ago that going to a hospital statistically made you less likely to get better but they do and should always attempt to live up to their "do no harm" pledge even if it's an unobtainable standard.
Taking this depression medication makes you fat, you're less depressed but another risk pops up. Does that mean all depression medication should be stopped and that you have to cope with depression?
The kid is having to have surgery to remove the breasts HRT gave him. There are likely many things disrupting normal puberty effects that we just don't kno ,about.
It's not something any family does to be cool or progressive. Do you know the stigma being someone who is trans has over them? Do you know the physical danger and emotional trauma you have just living your life as someone that is trans? I've literally been raped due to my status, as someone's attempt to try "cure" me. I've lost jobs, been threatened, and more over being trans.
It should be noted as well that you can't just go sign up for surgery. It is a long process of therapy, experimentation, and other things. It usually takes years before you have therapy and you need multiple therapists and multiple doctors to sign off on such. There are even more requirements overseas than there are in the US.
It's also incredibly harmful to let someone who is trans go through puberty in the gender not of their choice for both physical and psychological reasons.
Psychologically it's incredibly terrible to have your body betray your mind in such a way. In my case it lead to 6 suicide attempts before I was 18. Not to mention the fact that transitioning later on means whoever is transition has a lesser chance of passing, and requires a far higher medical expense in terms of generally removing hair. On top of this going through it later in life, trying to transition at a job- That sort of thing is incredibly embarrassing and can cause a lot of discrimination that laws generally simply don't cover, especially in the US if you don't work for the government.
Physically it creates a major strain on the body, because in stead of winding up at a goal you end up still fighting the parts of your body that produce hormones in the first place. You have to block those hormones even if you take testosterone/estrogen (Whichever is relevant). This puts a lot of load on the body and liver as well.
So yeah, these are things agreed on by professionals, and just because someone changed their mind, or their parents made a mistake, so on and so fourth is no reason to judge the majority that don't experience those problems.
Source: I'm trans. Have been all my life, started transition when I was 22, now in my 30's.
You have to block those hormones even if you take testosterone/estrogen (Whichever is relevant). This puts a lot of load on the body and liver as well.
No it doesn't. Testosterone and Estrogen are delivered through an intramuscular injection, or a cream that is absorbed through the skin. They have no affect on the liver. Arimadex and other hormone blockers however are in pill form and do negatively affect the liver.
Part of me is sad for the kid, part of me is ecstatic to see my ideological adversaries turning their own offspring into psychologically broken, irrelevant eunuchs.
These were your allies against the refugee hordes, and now that they're getting their dicks cut off there won't be enough of them to make a difference.
ultra-right-wing hateposting is like this is, as Principal Skinner said in Homer's Barbershop Quartet, funny at first but seems less funny every time you hear it
Tbh I think a group of men in corsets, panties and stockings would be pretty effective vs the alt righters who would want to get as far away as possible.
In my case it lead to 6 suicide attempts before I was 18.
/u/UsagiMimi why are you so inept that you couldn't off yourself given 6 tries? Also, I don't believe you were fired for being trans. Did you report this to the DoL? More likely you were fired for being a filthy commie (illegal in the US).
Exactly. If you tell people you're going to eat a hot pepper 6 times and never follow through, it's obviously just a cry for attention. That's why women suck at killing themselves.
Altho you do occasionally run across those types who start calling you racist because you didn't wanna fuck em. It's sort of like if a white person in blackface accused you of being racist for not wanting to fuck them and everyone went along with it for some reason. Except it's not even like that because only wanting to fuck black people isn't a sexual orientation.
Most people say they are but they always seem to hate either libs or conservatives more, irrespective of actual political ideology. It's so dumb that our political system has more in common with the Spanish soccer league (all Barca/Madrid all the time) than any of our sports. I want a parliament. I want nuance to be cool again. I wanna TSwizz your nips.
I think what South Park neutral really means is being non-confrontational to a fault. Again... Most people who claim SP neutrality actually lean pretty heavily one way or the other when you actually drill down into their beliefs. There are very few actual neutrals.
The right wing slant has been that way for the past year, ever since Donny won the primary. Its lately started somewhat swinging back the other way, but I don't imagine it'll go too far in case it gets too out of balance with SRD. Then there'd be no purpose to this sub.
I remember reading something of some parents ("lesbians") talking about how they hated their son because he turned out cis. They wanted him to be a demitransboi or whatever. But nope. The kid likes GI joes and trucks. Better later term abort him.
News is a lot less degenerate than I remember. Is that where they draw the line? Don't inject hormones or mutilate their genitals before 18? That's a step up from giving your 11 year old asexual demigodess 2 souls gender queer amorphous blob a scalpel and turning their dick inside out.
Some of the leftist arguments regarding these issues always leave me so baffled. It seems like a more reasonable stance is still very within the ballpark of their ideology, yet they tend to gravitate towards the more ridiculous.
Doesn't it seem like an awfully obvious case of confirmation bias when these people come out claim to have known they were trans or w/e since like 6 years old? Like most people barely get a feel for their own sexuality and place in society by the time they're reaching the end of their teens. Doesn't it seem unlikely at best that someone would really be able to understand themselves and the way they want to express themselves in society so well that they can for sure say they're trans when they're a literal child? It seems to be very contrary to leftist ideals to suggest that because a child wore dresses and was effeminate as a young boy that they were clearly trans.
It reminds me about some of the leftist arguments about abortion. Like why claim "science says it's just a collection of cells NOT life" when that is so blatantly retarded. Just back it off a few steps and you'll have a perfectly reasonable argument. I guess these kinds of things are meant to pander to the crowd rather than be a cohesive belief system though.
i wonder whats going to happen 20 years down the line when theres a pill that cures dysphoria and all forms of body integrity type disorders, and these dudes have to live with having pretended to be a woman the whole time
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1 SnapshillBot 2017-09-07
This is why we need mayocide.
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1 Ed_ButteredToast 2017-09-07
Amen.
1 OccasionallyClueless 2017-09-07
Hopefully this kid doesn't end up depressed/kill himself because how embarrassing this must be.
I can't believe any doctor would allow such a procedure on a child.
1 WarSanchez 2017-09-07
If you can read this he ded.
No man wants to live with a sliced up weiner...
1 M1ST1C 2017-09-07
I would kill myself by pulling a glock because I have no cock
1 InspiringShitpost 2017-09-07
I sexually💦Identify⚖️as wanting😩to😂die🗡💉. Ever since I was a🙇boy😋I dreamed🤔of making🔨a noose💀and stand🚽large🍆😏enough to end⚰️my sad😢life👻. People👨👨👦say👅to me that a person👨wanting to die💀👻is Impossible😳and I'm😤fucking😱retarded🤤but I don't care🤷♂️, I'm dead👻inside😩. I'm having a surgeon👨⚕️install💾AIDS💉, 30 types✋️of cancer😂and failing💀organs❤️into😩me. From now on🤖I want you👊guys👬to call me🤙"dead"💀and respect✊️my right➡️to die💀at anytime⏱and commit😂suicide👻. If you👊can't accept me😠you're a necrophobe💀🚫and need😫to check✔️your living🌱privilege👑. Thank you❤️for being so understanding.
1 jaredschaffer27 2017-09-07
The opposite of this, and unironically.
1 bigblackkittie 2017-09-07
some people are into that
1 WarSanchez 2017-09-07
Well 12 year olds are mentally unstable so they shouldn't be deciding what genitals they prefer to have when they can't even decide what fucking cartoon to finish watching
1 die_rattin 2017-09-07
IME, there's usually only one or two doctors in the area that are willing to prescribe these treatments but they'll do it for pretty much anyone who walks in.
1 botchlings 2017-09-07
Likely because they are afraid of the backlash that could be caused by them not prescribing them.
1 die_rattin 2017-09-07
I think it's more a mix of (1) docs who like having a steady stream of niche customers same as pill mills or MMJ and (2) true believers who would never question anything ever. Docs who don't want to deal with a particular type of patients just refuse them or refer them to someone else.
1 aqouta 2017-09-07
Kind of like the majority of medical marijuana scripts. Some legitimate ones of course exist but a lot of getting one is knowing which doctors write them for nothing.
1 botchlings 2017-09-07
I suspect it's this. No doctor or hospital wants a flood of hysterical leftists and trans activists protesting them.
On that note, I wonder how much influence the kid's parents had in the decision? 100% chance the kid comes from a household with parents who have some pretty wacky beliefs.
1 EvanHarper 2017-09-07
just ask Kenneth Zucker
1 botchlings 2017-09-07
Exactly.
Common sense thrown out the window because activists didn't approve of it.
1 Works_of_memercy 2017-09-07
Think about it like this: fucking up the life of some kid who turned out to be cis is really not a big problem, because he's privileged af anyways. In fact it could be considered a good thing, since it gives him better appreciation for the struggle of trans folk.
1 Zarathustra412 2017-09-07
Definitely. We could also amputate the legs of cis-het white male children, because they're "privileged af" anyway. In fact, it could be considered a good thing, since it gives him better appreciation for the struggle of disabled folk.
I'm guessing that you just assumed the /s shouldn't be necessary, since the position you're advocating is horrifying. If that's the case, I guess I missed the joke-- but I've stumbled into enough crazy Tumblr posts to know that these sorts of arguments are actually defended by a vocal few.
1 allwordsaredust 2017-09-07
> suggesting the /s is ever necessary
1 Gusfoo 2017-09-07
> failing to read the CSS so they don't know how to greentext.
1 DannyLee90 2017-09-07
Make no mistake: we at /r/Drama are 100% in favor of the impending cishetmayocide.
1 Works_of_memercy 2017-09-07
The only /s I implied was /s(erious), obviously.
1 ironicshitpostr 2017-09-07
People who use /s to try to excuse their idiotic postings as a "joke" are themselves the joke.
1 ManhattanTransFur 2017-09-07
cis is not a word.
1 DannyLee90 2017-09-07
ur not a word
1 ComedicSans 2017-09-07
He's a mong.
1 Dawnweinerdawg 2017-09-07
I love your username.
1 BannaHamHock 2017-09-07
It was a word when I was taking Organic Chemistry. Has something changed in the last 10 years?
1 Unicorn_Abattoir 2017-09-07
It's a Latinate prefix. It's not a whole word, and using it still implies that whatever is 'trans' is still 'on the other side' from the user. But this implies trans is not normal, which makes the whole effort to use cia/trans to 'normalize' transsexuality kind of dumb.
1 BannaHamHock 2017-09-07
Cis in chemistry implies a certain version of an isomer. Anyway, this:
.. is not even close to correct.
I don't care about this autistic gender shit though, I was just making a chemistry joke.
1 brianpv 2017-09-07
I've always heard that 'trans' is supposed to imply that what you identify as and what your sex is don't match up (aren't on the same side), so 'cis' would imply that what you identify as and what your sex is are on the same side.
I don't think it has anything to do with the relationship between the speaker and the person being described.
1 ManhattanTransFur 2017-09-07
Yes. All straight people stopped identifying as simple phenols in 2013.
1 brianpv 2017-09-07
Is trans a word
1 ManhattanTransFur 2017-09-07
It is more of a prefix.
1 EvanHarper 2017-09-07
please at least try to be an interesting shitlord, MTF. this stuff is weak
1 TSwizzlesNipples 2017-09-07
Did you just use that word unironically?
1 tomato_man123 2017-09-07
Someone's never been to cisalpine gaul or transalpine gaul
1 ManhattanTransFur 2017-09-07
I've definitely never been to Cis Gaul
1 froibo 2017-09-07
Article says the mom was giving him her hormone prescription.
1 StrawRedditor 2017-09-07
ding ding ding.
I mean, this is really the logical outcome of the "gender is 100% a social construct"shit that they're pushing. There's no such thing as a tomboy or a boy liking girly things anymore... you must actually just be the other gender entirely instead.
1 tomato_man123 2017-09-07
It's too late, he's gonna have a micropenis. That happens with puberty blockers too; that jazz trans kid with a tv show can't have bottom surgery because her wang never grew past child size.
It's kind of hilarious and sad that trans activists claim that going on this chemical that prevents you from having puberty is completely reversible with no long-term effects, when the science for that claim is essentially that there's been no study on it because these drugs are all shadily prescribed off label.
1 chaosakita 2017-09-07
A lot of puberty blockers are basically chemotherapy drugs.
1 godofdae 2017-09-07
But the trans activists told me puberty blockers were 100% safe.
1 theDeletedTruth 2017-09-07
Why are you not wishing for the death of others? You goddamn coward.
1 OccasionallyClueless 2017-09-07
You're right, I'm being too milquetoast.
I wish slow, agonizing death upon the retards and perverts that fetishize the chemical castration of children.
1 IAintThatGuy 2017-09-07
I'm betting trannies want him to kill himself. This way it increases the statistics of trans suicides they always use to get attention and pity, while removing someone who might talk about regretting transition for a long time.
1 cheers_grills 2017-09-07
It's like SJW bingo in only 4 words.
1 TSwizzlesNipples 2017-09-07
You could have completely made that comment up and it would still be believable.
1 cheers_grills 2017-09-07
I can't even anymore.
1 ExtreemWeenie 2017-09-07
toxic, creepy, and gross
1 nomorepushing 2017-09-07
UGH!
1 cheers_grills 2017-09-07
dangerous and problematic
1 holy_black_on_a_popo 2017-09-07
sigh
1 hetoldmeontv 2017-09-07
1 xoiz 2017-09-07
sweetie
1 reddog2442 2017-09-07
Oh my sweet summer child
1 bleepis 2017-09-07
you're missing "yikes"
1 Mort_DeRire 2017-09-07
1 CedV 2017-09-07
Looks like the /r/news mods removed this post for not being progressive enough.
1 alibix 2017-09-07
That's very strange. The doctors told him to take estrogen? They usually, at that age just use puberty blockers. Not full on transition.
1 ManhattanTransFur 2017-09-07
The reddit trannies assured me this never happens.
1 BannaHamHock 2017-09-07
Why is there such a huge population of reddit trannies? I've legit seen one irl in my entire time on the planet.
1 ExtreemWeenie 2017-09-07
the internet attracts social rejects
1 EvanHarper 2017-09-07
/r/drama
1 ironicshitpostr 2017-09-07
DELET THIS
1 Mircy 2017-09-07
I'd guess it's finding a community given that they're such a tiny part of the population
but that doesn't explain their meta-reddit presence
1 BannaHamHock 2017-09-07
Yeah I guess this is the part that confuses me
1 -absolutego- 2017-09-07
Metareddit is autistic as shit and there's a correlation between having autism and being transgender.
This is why they're also extremely overrepresented in gaming circles, forum moderator positions, weird twitter, the train fandom, and various wikis.
1 tomato_man123 2017-09-07
There's an ultra creepy trans woman who delivers grubhub/uber eats from time to time. They always get lost on their way to my apartment, call for directions and mess it up anyway, talk/swear/yell to themselves when they're on the phone with me, and just be an all around mess. They're constantly angry and seem on the verge of snapping at any moment. That's male aggression for you. If I were a woman I would NOT feel okay with this person getting close to my home.
1 BannaHamHock 2017-09-07
You should fuck em in the bum mate
1 wowbagger88 2017-09-07
It's not just reddit, tranny drama runs the internet and has for a decade.
1 ManhattanTransFur 2017-09-07
Vaccines, IMO.
1 MayorEmanuel 2017-09-07
The doctor will probably lose their license over this.
1 aqouta 2017-09-07
Well, should, who knows if he will? If I was the boobboy I'd sue him.
1 Mircy 2017-09-07
why'd they transition in the first place at 12
1 MakeAmericaSageAgain 2017-09-07
They wanna beat puberty to the punch
1 Mircy 2017-09-07
Blockers exist for that reason though
1 MakeAmericaSageAgain 2017-09-07
Why would you want to be a flat chested eunuch when you can be a buxom bimbo?
1 Mircy 2017-09-07
surgery later, duh
1 MakeAmericaSageAgain 2017-09-07
Bitch, ain't nothin sweeter than a nice pair of all natural titties.
1 Mircy 2017-09-07
have you seen bimbos like irl
they're half plastic m8
1 MakeAmericaSageAgain 2017-09-07
Do you really think I'm experienced enough to know the difference? Lmao
1 Mircy 2017-09-07
you don't have to be experienced you just have to go outside to places beyond the grocery store
1 MakeAmericaSageAgain 2017-09-07
I don't do that. My mom took me to the place where confused people go and I did some tests. The government decided to assign someone who helps me out with outside stuff.
1 Mircy 2017-09-07
How many children did you molest to get your own case worker
1 MakeAmericaSageAgain 2017-09-07
First I have to make sure you're aware of the difference between pedophilia and hebephilia...
1 Mircy 2017-09-07
There is none
1 ironicshitpostr 2017-09-07
They're both great in your eyes as long as it's yuri, then?
1 Zozbot 2017-09-07
zoz
1 Zozbot 2017-09-07
zle
1 Zozbot 2017-09-07
zozzle
1 Mircy 2017-09-07
I like age gap in general, and happy sugar life for everyone being fucking insane, but there's a limit to my yuri and it's This
1 bleepis 2017-09-07
hide your power level
1 tomato_man123 2017-09-07
Pretty sure blockers have long-term irreversible effects too tho, like such as micropenis
1 Mircy 2017-09-07
Haven't seen anything that suggests that, care to link?
1 tomato_man123 2017-09-07
Well, I should be more clear: There's literally no evidence for the claim that the effects of puberty blockers are reversible, which is the #1 "safety" justification for using these things on young children.
Like I guess we can argue about where the standard of proof lies but the idea that we're just going to assume without proof that this chemical that prevents your body from undergoing a major, major physiological change at the normal time has no lasting effects is insanely irresponsible. For instance, this person https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KuS_L9R8fCo is on puberty blockers and didn't develop normal male genitalia, there's no evidence whatsover that if she went off the blockers things would go back to normal.
1 Mircy 2017-09-07
we should test this on monkeys to figure it out
1 aqouta 2017-09-07
They prefer the term "basketball Americans"
1 Mircy 2017-09-07
Maybe hapas instead?
1 aqouta 2017-09-07
If trans diagnosis was 100% accurate and transition was 100% the best treatment hormones during puberty is the ideal option because it prevents the pretty much irreversible effects of puberty of the "wrong" sex on the body. Now them ifs are pretty big so only a real moron would actually go through with it.
1 Mircy 2017-09-07
Transitioning is the best treatment though
1 aqouta 2017-09-07
That's hardly something that can be said as if it's a proven fact.
1 ComedicSans 2017-09-07
Is there a better alternative?
1 pretzeltwists 2017-09-07
Sadly not- most mental illnesses can't be cured so to speak
1 ComedicSans 2017-09-07
Well, then /u/Mircy is correct and transitioning would be the best treatment.
1 pretzeltwists 2017-09-07
I'm all for transitioning if and when there's enough evidence and verity that said person transitions, to prevent things like this happening. Age is a hugely important factor, as is the parents
1 simplyshadyzz 2017-09-07
Not transitioning
1 aqouta 2017-09-07
Have less of a stigma on androgyny and loosen gender norms in general. If it's truly the physical dysphoria of having the "wrong" junk then transitioning makes sense but it seems like the most extreme option for something we truly don't understand.
1 ComedicSans 2017-09-07
PSA: The retards who freak out about transgender people will freak out at intersex/androgyne people too.
1 aqouta 2017-09-07
I'm more concerned with not mutilating children who might change their minds than the freak out of people offended at shifting "traditional" values.
1 ComedicSans 2017-09-07
Sure. But you should really specify that you're not talking about adults.
1 aqouta 2017-09-07
Let me be clear, adults should be allowed to do whatever shit they want to to their own bodies, on the condition that it doesn't negatively impact anyone else.
1 Bronafide 2017-09-07
Bussy acceptance now!
1 aqouta 2017-09-07
Bussy implies boy which implies benis(boy penis) full transition is not bussy it's gussy-b
1 captainpriapism 2017-09-07
accept the body you were born with and stop crying basically
tomboys and effeminate men exist and have forever
1 ComedicSans 2017-09-07
Lol. Speaking from experience, obviously.
1 captainpriapism 2017-09-07
my advice is 100% serious to trans people
therapy>surgery in literally every mental illness situation
1 ComedicSans 2017-09-07
Lmao. I'm sure your medical opinion carries a lot of weight in the trailer park.
1 captainpriapism 2017-09-07
we dont have trailer parks in australia except for old people camping
1 ironicshitpostr 2017-09-07
Where do you shove the abos then?
1 ComedicSans 2017-09-07
The desert. Not even kidding.
1 captainpriapism 2017-09-07
its traditional
1 captainpriapism 2017-09-07
theres a big desert in the middle of the country
1 Mircy 2017-09-07
of the options and long term consequences involved, yeah it's the best option
like, for schizos, the best way to get rid of the hallucinations is a bullet between the eyes but since there's no cure the next best thing is a way to cope with what's happening, and when it comes to transgender people, transitioning is the most effective approach.
1 EvanHarper 2017-09-07
it is basically malpractice to diagnose a 12 year old as transgender
1 The_Reason_Trump_Won 2017-09-07
Woah such bigotry
1 bleepis 2017-09-07
that's what puberty blockers are for
1 xjapxn 2017-09-07
That's a bold claim there hoss, got anything else to it?
1 bleepis 2017-09-07
pretty much every trans person ever is thrilled about the results they get from transitioning except for the kid in question
1 aqouta 2017-09-07
Except for you know, the large percent that off themselves? But I guess they probably don't answer polls, assuming you're citing polls and not just pulling that "fact" out of your ass.
1 bleepis 2017-09-07
> implying depression and suicidal ideation can only ever come from dysphoria alone
im citing polls from the cavernous depths of my ass, actually
1 captainpriapism 2017-09-07
that woman with biid that poured bleach in her eyes to blind herself because she identified as a blind person was pretty happy too, doesnt mean we should enable it
1 bleepis 2017-09-07
turning your dick inside out and getting some titties ≠ being crippled
1 aqouta 2017-09-07
>implying female genitalia isn't a disability
1 bleepis 2017-09-07
yeah that's fair tbh
1 captainpriapism 2017-09-07
pretty sure it does
1 bleepis 2017-09-07
hm. no. try again
1 ironicshitpostr 2017-09-07
I would enable it, that's the future I want as a liberal
1 captainpriapism 2017-09-07
im not against maiming people on principle i just think we have to do it for the right reasons
1 EvanHarper 2017-09-07
the large preponderance of evidence shows that it's not but (most of the loudest) trans activists care more about protecting the trans identity than protecting kids, so they want to deny the instability of gender identity (ironic!) among minors and insist that gender dysphoria in minors is properly treated by sex transition
1 Mircy 2017-09-07
also when does doctor people do stuff that's 100% gooders all the time
:thonk:
1 aqouta 2017-09-07
Never, it was too long ago that going to a hospital statistically made you less likely to get better but they do and should always attempt to live up to their "do no harm" pledge even if it's an unobtainable standard.
1 Mircy 2017-09-07
even if it's unobtainable, yeah, exactly
Taking this depression medication makes you fat, you're less depressed but another risk pops up. Does that mean all depression medication should be stopped and that you have to cope with depression?
1 aqouta 2017-09-07
Genital mutililation is a little more irreversible than weight gain.
1 Mircy 2017-09-07
but HRT is not, and that's what is being discussed in that thread
1 aqouta 2017-09-07
The kid is having to have surgery to remove the breasts HRT gave him. There are likely many things disrupting normal puberty effects that we just don't kno ,about.
1 Mircy 2017-09-07
and as mentioned throughout this thread it's highly unusual that he's had hrt without tblocking until a later age
1 aqouta 2017-09-07
Right, blockers are less bad but I still have to doubt they're without irreversable side effects.
1 bleepis 2017-09-07
sounds like you're just jealous this trans kid gets his boobs cut off and you're stuck with your skinnyfat bitch tits :/
1 captainpriapism 2017-09-07
parents are overzealous faggots most likely
1 The_DJSeahorse 2017-09-07
Goddammit Trump, where the fuck are those goddamn right-wing death squads you promised us?
1 Works_of_memercy 2017-09-07
Turns out SJWs manage well enough all by themselves.
1 wwyzzerdd 2017-09-07
They just don't make Nazi's like they used to.
1 ExtreemWeenie 2017-09-07
been in office for 8 months and games journalism is still fucked
1 DramaModsSuck 2017-09-07
It's not something any family does to be cool or progressive. Do you know the stigma being someone who is trans has over them? Do you know the physical danger and emotional trauma you have just living your life as someone that is trans? I've literally been raped due to my status, as someone's attempt to try "cure" me. I've lost jobs, been threatened, and more over being trans. It should be noted as well that you can't just go sign up for surgery. It is a long process of therapy, experimentation, and other things. It usually takes years before you have therapy and you need multiple therapists and multiple doctors to sign off on such. There are even more requirements overseas than there are in the US. It's also incredibly harmful to let someone who is trans go through puberty in the gender not of their choice for both physical and psychological reasons. Psychologically it's incredibly terrible to have your body betray your mind in such a way. In my case it lead to 6 suicide attempts before I was 18. Not to mention the fact that transitioning later on means whoever is transition has a lesser chance of passing, and requires a far higher medical expense in terms of generally removing hair. On top of this going through it later in life, trying to transition at a job- That sort of thing is incredibly embarrassing and can cause a lot of discrimination that laws generally simply don't cover, especially in the US if you don't work for the government. Physically it creates a major strain on the body, because in stead of winding up at a goal you end up still fighting the parts of your body that produce hormones in the first place. You have to block those hormones even if you take testosterone/estrogen (Whichever is relevant). This puts a lot of load on the body and liver as well. So yeah, these are things agreed on by professionals, and just because someone changed their mind, or their parents made a mistake, so on and so fourth is no reason to judge the majority that don't experience those problems. Source: I'm trans. Have been all my life, started transition when I was 22, now in my 30's.
1 Mircy 2017-09-07
is this copypasta
you know that there's a transgender moderator here, right
1 MakeAmericaSageAgain 2017-09-07
Internalized transphobia is the worst kind.
1 youpostyoudie 2017-09-07
duhh uh milo is uh gay so u know me no homophobe
1 SineadObama 2017-09-07
OH GOD YOU'RE RIGHT WE'RE ALL SO OPPRESSIVE TO TRANS PEOPLE. How could we not see this before?
Thank you. Thank you for opening my eyes. It may not seem like other people care what you think about anything. But I care.
1 ThatMormonMike 2017-09-07
No it doesn't. Testosterone and Estrogen are delivered through an intramuscular injection, or a cream that is absorbed through the skin. They have no affect on the liver. Arimadex and other hormone blockers however are in pill form and do negatively affect the liver.
1 DramaModsSuck 2017-09-07
all isnt bring their best
1 ThatMormonMike 2017-09-07
I like to add some cheese to the pasta.
1 Mircy 2017-09-07
Ha got it
1 DramaModsSuck 2017-09-07
hehe xd
1 attaca89 2017-09-07
Part of me is sad for the kid, part of me is ecstatic to see my ideological adversaries turning their own offspring into psychologically broken, irrelevant eunuchs.
1 UmmahSultan 2017-09-07
These were your allies against the refugee hordes, and now that they're getting their dicks cut off there won't be enough of them to make a difference.
1 attaca89 2017-09-07
They're the cause of those hoards being here in the first place. They're societal cancer.
1 EvanHarper 2017-09-07
ultra-right-wing hateposting is like this is, as Principal Skinner said in Homer's Barbershop Quartet, funny at first but seems less funny every time you hear it
1 nicethingyoucanthave 2017-09-07
http://i.imgur.com/gZVp76S.jpg
1 aqouta 2017-09-07
Wearing a t-shirt over a corset? Traps aren't gay, they'd have more sense than that bullshit if they were.
1 InspiringShitpost 2017-09-07
Panties of power!
1 Davidshky 2017-09-07
Tbh I think a group of men in corsets, panties and stockings would be pretty effective vs the alt righters who would want to get as far away as possible.
1 wumbo17412 2017-09-07
this is the kind of delicious edgeposting this sub has been lacking in as of late
we need more of it
1 CucksLoveTrump 2017-09-07
/u/UsagiMimi why are you so inept that you couldn't off yourself given 6 tries? Also, I don't believe you were fired for being trans. Did you report this to the DoL? More likely you were fired for being a filthy commie (illegal in the US).
1 aqouta 2017-09-07
I wish, I would go McCarthy on some assets.
1 CucksLoveTrump 2017-09-07
being a commie is still illegal
1 aqouta 2017-09-07
There may in fact be a god after all.
1 do0rkn0b 2017-09-07
if only talking about being a filthy fucking commie were illegal, this website could be made great again.
1 ironicshitpostr 2017-09-07
I think I just found Daddy's next crusade after he drives the Mexicans south of the Wall.
1 transgender_vampire 2017-09-07
/u/UsagiMimi
Whats wrong big guy.
1 ason 2017-09-07
If you tried 6 times and didn't succeed, you weren't actually trying to commit suicide. You'll end up with sick scars though.
1 EvanHarper 2017-09-07
if you tried six times to eat an entire red savina pepper bite-by-bite and didn't succeed, you weren't actually trying to eat it
1 ason 2017-09-07
Exactly. If you tell people you're going to eat a hot pepper 6 times and never follow through, it's obviously just a cry for attention. That's why women suck at killing themselves.
1 EvanHarper 2017-09-07
i... what
1 CC3940A61E 2017-09-07
keep yourself safe
1 EvanHarper 2017-09-07
i've tried six times but i'm still not safe
1 ilovebrownbooty 2017-09-07
You literally can't make this shit up.
1 CucksLoveTrump 2017-09-07
Yeah let's just slide SysAdmin at the back end of all that fuckery
1 hetoldmeontv 2017-09-07
Wait a transgender lesbian what's the point in that?
1 OnePercentOfMonster 2017-09-07
autogynephilia
1 ahbslldud 2017-09-07
to try to bully actual lesbians into fucking them obvs
1 bleepis 2017-09-07
that's like saying black people only wanted equality so white supremacists would be willing to fuck them, which is retarded
1 ahbslldud 2017-09-07
Not really.
Altho you do occasionally run across those types who start calling you racist because you didn't wanna fuck em. It's sort of like if a white person in blackface accused you of being racist for not wanting to fuck them and everyone went along with it for some reason. Except it's not even like that because only wanting to fuck black people isn't a sexual orientation.
1 bleepis 2017-09-07
im not sure what sort of trans you're running into that demand people disgusted by them have sex with them but sure keep deluding yourself
1 ahbslldud 2017-09-07
Like half of them tbh. Meet a few sometime.
1 bleepis 2017-09-07
wow you got me, undeniable proof you have met and engaged with every trans girl on the planet. damn, got me
1 ahbslldud 2017-09-07
proof
nigga wheretf you think you are?
1 bleepis 2017-09-07
trapped in the same hell as you
1 TadidaYo 2017-09-07
I'm pretty sure it's made up.
1 damn_it_so_much 2017-09-07
Oh wow another rightist agendapost in drama. fuck everyone in this sub, you are bad at entertaining me.
1 TSwizzlesNipples 2017-09-07
Excuse me, but I'm South Park Neutral.
1 damn_it_so_much 2017-09-07
Most people say they are but they always seem to hate either libs or conservatives more, irrespective of actual political ideology. It's so dumb that our political system has more in common with the Spanish soccer league (all Barca/Madrid all the time) than any of our sports. I want a parliament. I want nuance to be cool again. I wanna TSwizz your nips.
1 Honk4Tits 2017-09-07
I hate both and agree with both on certain issues. Both sides have their fair share of tards.
1 damn_it_so_much 2017-09-07
I think what South Park neutral really means is being non-confrontational to a fault. Again... Most people who claim SP neutrality actually lean pretty heavily one way or the other when you actually drill down into their beliefs. There are very few actual neutrals.
1 TSwizzlesNipples 2017-09-07
I will not stand for this sexual assault! MODS!!!
1 John_Kvetch 2017-09-07
lmao
1 damn_it_so_much 2017-09-07
Downvoted for not enough zozz
1 Matthew1J 2017-09-07
Downvoted for implying zozz is a good thing.
1 aqouta 2017-09-07
Zoz
1 ahbslldud 2017-09-07
Zle
1 DannyLee90 2017-09-07
zoz
1 DannyLee90 2017-09-07
zle
1 DannyLee90 2017-09-07
zozzle
1 Sarge_Ward 2017-09-07
actually zoz is the only good meme
1 aqouta 2017-09-07
Look, I don't like the Donald friends as much as the next guy but this is primo drama regardless of your politics.
1 damn_it_so_much 2017-09-07
Lately I only see a right wing slant in here. This was not previously the case.
1 alphetasauce 2017-09-07
The right wing slant has been that way for the past year, ever since Donny won the primary. Its lately started somewhat swinging back the other way, but I don't imagine it'll go too far in case it gets too out of balance with SRD. Then there'd be no purpose to this sub.
1 damn_it_so_much 2017-09-07
The heavy moderation on SRD has really helped it out lately I think.
1 alphetasauce 2017-09-07
Moderation can't make the fart sniffing go away.
1 damn_it_so_much 2017-09-07
But it can help reduce the occasions where people are tempted to smell their own farts
1 80BAIT08 2017-09-07
His parents clearly wanted a tranny more than about OR girl. It's abuse.
1 Jacksambuck 2017-09-07
Then he'll kill himself and it will all be society's fault for not being accepting enough of trans*$%§&.
1 ExtreemWeenie 2017-09-07
daily reminder that POC are the last bastion of masculinity
1 ironicshitpostr 2017-09-07
If there's any hope at all for Man, it lies in Islam or the Mormons.
1 nomorepushing 2017-09-07
I remember reading something of some parents ("lesbians") talking about how they hated their son because he turned out cis. They wanted him to be a demitransboi or whatever. But nope. The kid likes GI joes and trucks. Better later term abort him.
1 backltrack 2017-09-07
News is a lot less degenerate than I remember. Is that where they draw the line? Don't inject hormones or mutilate their genitals before 18? That's a step up from giving your 11 year old asexual demigodess 2 souls gender queer amorphous blob a scalpel and turning their dick inside out.
1 Whatafuxup 2017-09-07
let's let it into the army, what can go wrong
1 EvanHarper 2017-09-07
I blame Jesse Singal
1 Turtlepants9000 2017-09-07
Some of the leftist arguments regarding these issues always leave me so baffled. It seems like a more reasonable stance is still very within the ballpark of their ideology, yet they tend to gravitate towards the more ridiculous.
Doesn't it seem like an awfully obvious case of confirmation bias when these people come out claim to have known they were trans or w/e since like 6 years old? Like most people barely get a feel for their own sexuality and place in society by the time they're reaching the end of their teens. Doesn't it seem unlikely at best that someone would really be able to understand themselves and the way they want to express themselves in society so well that they can for sure say they're trans when they're a literal child? It seems to be very contrary to leftist ideals to suggest that because a child wore dresses and was effeminate as a young boy that they were clearly trans.
It reminds me about some of the leftist arguments about abortion. Like why claim "science says it's just a collection of cells NOT life" when that is so blatantly retarded. Just back it off a few steps and you'll have a perfectly reasonable argument. I guess these kinds of things are meant to pander to the crowd rather than be a cohesive belief system though.
1 captainpriapism 2017-09-07
i wonder whats going to happen 20 years down the line when theres a pill that cures dysphoria and all forms of body integrity type disorders, and these dudes have to live with having pretended to be a woman the whole time