r/drama: Julian Assange's Hot Take: Lincoln is the worst President in History because he did a Civil War.

What is this guy's deal? Why did he go from champion of governmental transparency to loony conspiracy theorist? Was it all the raping he did or him being cooped up inside some random embassy?

1 SDIHTD 2017-09-22

Your perspective.

1 glmox 2017-09-22

getting a global platform can do strange things to a man

1 Teresa_May 2017-09-22

He was never a champion of governmental transparency, just another crank with an anti-American agenda.

1 _narrows 2017-09-22

Correctamundo

1 ComedicSans 2017-09-22

Remember he's just an autistic fuckwit with a website that people post shit to. He's not all that different from the reddit founders.

1 ChadwinThundercock 2017-09-22

Autistic fuckwits don't have threesomes with Asian co-eds

1 ComedicSans 2017-09-22

The founder of reddit married and knocked up a Williams sister. Money and notoriety can make up for a lot...

1 ChadwinThundercock 2017-09-22

Almost all of this happened before he was famous. His PoF profile leaks were full of women he would stand up after treating them like morons all evening, but only after fucking them of course.

1 ASexual-Buff-Baboon 2017-09-22

Kompromat. Russia got something on him and used Wikileaks to disseminate stiff on Hillary Clinton

1 NotTheBomber 2017-09-22

He's just a hack who thinks that literally anything is better than the "establishment" that runs the Great American Surveillance State and War Machine ^TM. Unfortunately for the rest of us, literally anything means Trump and Putin.

Kim Dotcom went through a similar transformation. He was your average Internet liberal/libertarian type and his Internet Party in New Zealand oriented themselves in the country's centre-left. Then he got really upset that Obama and the New Zealand government cooperated to arrest him for hosting Megaupload and he got a huge hate boner against Obama and everyone that has ever worked with him. So that's why he's still supporting Pizzagate and spreading Seth Rich murder rumors

1 Yiin 2017-09-22

Kim Dotcom is still a thing?

1 BumwineBaudelaire 2017-09-22

I don't get it. If the buck stops with the President Isn't Lincoln the worst? Surely more tools to kill slavery than killing 2.3% of the pop

what's the conspiracy theory there

1 theycallmeryan 2017-09-22

Yeah it's not really a conspiracy just a retarded thing to say

1 captainpriapism 2017-09-22

fucking lol hes not a conspiracy theorist just because you dont like what he leaked recently

1 Bastamourne 2017-09-22

Does this guy know that the war started when the southern States seceded? Lincoln didn't do anything to cause the American civil war other then get elected.

1 robotronica 2017-09-22

Sounds like Obama and Kennedy round out his bottom 3.

1 glmox 2017-09-22

obama was a garbage president tbf

1 ComedicSans 2017-09-22

Following through on his promise to deliver healthcare. What a monster.

1 wwyzzerdd 2017-09-22

What about the promise to close Gitmo?

Or the promise to get out of Afghanistan?

Or the promise to get out of Iraq?

Or the other promises...

1 ComedicSans 2017-09-22

I like how all of the things you list are problems he inherited from Dubbya. And he pretty much did get out of Iraq and Afghanistan, which is why the orange chucklefuck's foreign policy decisions are so hilarious.

1 wwyzzerdd 2017-09-22

I like how you can only list one thing that he kinda, sorta did (even though its still proper fucked).

More over you claim we're out of two countries that still have thousands of American military personal stationed in shiny new forts. Must be that Southern Hemisphere humor... Hilarious!

Stick to sheep fucking and worrying about the Aussie invasion. You'll have better luck with that.

1 ComedicSans 2017-09-22

Hahaha. Why would I give a fuck about defending him, I didn't vote for him. It's just hilarious how retarded hillbillies pretend he was Satan because they're desperate to justify their choice of the mandarin golem.

1 wwyzzerdd 2017-09-22

Nobody called him satan, but nice attempt at backing out. The more you type the more you show your ass.

1 ComedicSans 2017-09-22

What in blue fuck are you talking about, Count Spergula? You're getting all serious and mad about shitposting. Drink bleach.

1 TheGreatWolfRuss 2017-09-22

You're still complaining about Obama in late 2k17. As someone who skipped on Obama both times, keep yourself safe.

1 pvijay187 2017-09-22

He got out of iraq and Afghanistan

1 wwyzzerdd 2017-09-22

So the 15-20,000 troops who are still there don't count i guess?

https://www.militarytimes.com/news/your-military/2017/08/22/mattis-dod-to-account-for-actual-numbers-of-forces-in-afghanistan-before-asking-for-more/

1 pvijay187 2017-09-22

We also have troops in Germany, South Korea and Japan.

1 Think_Once 2017-09-22

Obama never promised to get out of Afghanistan. It's just a stupid fake news meme spread by idiots like you.

Obama in 2007 (before he was elected): We must refocus our efforts on Afghanistan and Pakistan—the central front in our war against al Qaeda—so that we are confronting terrorists where their roots run deepest. Success in Afghanistan is still possible, but only if we act quickly, judiciously, and decisively. We should pursue an integrated strategy that reinforces our troops in Afghanistan and works to remove the limitations placed by some NATO allies on their forces.

Obama in 2008 during campaigning: I will focus this strategy on five goals essential to making America safer: ending the war in Iraq responsibly; finishing the fight against al Qaeda and the Taliban;

Obama wanted to win the war in Afghanistan, but he never campaigned for just pulling out.

1 TUMS_FESTIVAL 2017-09-22

Wow, you people still bring up Gitmo as being Obama's fault? He did try to close it, it was Congress that blocked him.

1 Neronoah 2017-09-22

He actually tried to close Gitmo, he just failed at it.

Getting out of Iraq and Afghanistan is harder because things there could become even worse for the locals. It's picking one of two possible shitty options.

1 glmox 2017-09-22

or the promise to not be a war criminal

oh wait but libyan's are too poor to matter lol he's #diverse so it's cool i forgot

1 ComedicSans 2017-09-22

$10 says you've literally never researched what is and is not a war crime. Lol.

1 glmox 2017-09-22

the nazis were mostly hung for attacking a country that hadnt attacked them, not the holocaust

you gonna say libya attacked america?

1 ComedicSans 2017-09-22

the nazis were mostly hung for attacking a country that hadnt attacked them

Another $10 says you've never researched the Nuremberg Trials either. Lmfao.

1 ncson 2017-09-22

Another $10 says you've never researched the Nuremberg Trials

Research? Hell, I was going to put a $10 on if glmox could just pronounce "Nuremberg". You have to give these guys a fighting chance.

1 theycallmeryan 2017-09-22

You're absolutely retarded

1 glmox 2017-09-22

gonna double reply to point out his "delivery on healthcare" is fucking worthless, given it still compels individuals to acquire capital to survive. the fact that his system was superficially more compassionate makes it more evil, not less.

1 ComedicSans 2017-09-22

Fucking lol.

1 glmox 2017-09-22

ily 2

1 _narrows 2017-09-22

given it still compels individuals to acquire capital to survive.

Heaven forbid you have to fucking WORK OR DO SOMETHING in order to eat.

1 theycallmeryan 2017-09-22

Remember when he let other countries walk all over us internationally?

Or when he let ISIS become the powerhouse it was a few years ago?

Remember when his administration decided that college students didn't need due process (the Title IX restrictions that were just rolled back)?

I don't think Obama was the worst president ever, he can't compete with any of the presidents right before the Civil War or the Great Depression, but he definitely wasn't a good one.

1 TUMS_FESTIVAL 2017-09-22

Remember when he let other countries walk all over us internationally?

No.

Or when he let ISIS become the powerhouse it was a few years ago?

ISIS is partly the fault of Bush for fucking up the Iraq war, along with a shit ton of other causes. Unless you wanted us to interfere even more in the Middle East, can't really pin that on Obama.

Remember when his administration decided that college students didn't need due process (the Title IX restrictions that were just rolled back)?

Yeah that was dumb.

1 theycallmeryan 2017-09-22

Here, let me remind you since you forgot about Obama's red line in Syria.

ISIS is partly the fault of Bush for fucking up the Iraq war, along with a shit ton of other causes. Unless you wanted us to interfere even more in the Middle East, can't really pin that on Obama.

I agree with you here, the Bush administration really fucked the Middle East up but Obama pulling out of Iraq contributed to the power vacuum in the region. I wouldn't pin ISIS on Obama but they became a powerhouse while Obama was our president. As shitty as Trump has done on some issues, at least he's been succeeding at destroying ISIS.

1 I_DRINK_TO_FORGET 2017-09-22

It really started when the confederates actually followed through with their threats and attacked union soldiers in succeeded states.

Those troops could have been moved to union territory, alas.. Lincoln wanted a war.

1 TheGreatWolfRuss 2017-09-22

It really started when the confederates actually followed through with their threats and attacked union soldiers

Lincoln wanted a war.

How are you this fucking retarded ?

1 Artremis 2017-09-22

Wasn't the entire US "Union territory"? Lmao. Can't tell if trolling or legit downs.

1 eeso99 2017-09-22

Not in the eyes of the south after they announced their secession.

1 Artremis 2017-09-22

It's be like if the tard guards let every autist do whatever they want if they said "we no listen anymore". You just gotta smack some sense into them, which is what happened.

1 theycallmeryan 2017-09-22

If I could save the Union without freeing any slave I would do it, and if I could save it by freeing all the slaves I would do it; and if I could save it by freeing some and leaving others alone I would also do that.

Yeah, Lincoln really wanted a civil war

1 BussySundae 2017-09-22

I think it's remarkable it didn't escalate sooner like in the events of the 1830s there was a lot 'compromising'; Assange is such a edgelord retard.

1 Works_of_memercy 2017-09-22

I think he's making a reductio ad absurdum argument to defend some Trump shit actually.

1 none_to_remain 2017-09-22

compensated emancipation yo

1 Neronoah 2017-09-22

Hahaha, holy shit, that's falling low.

1 ironicshitpostr 2017-09-22

What a fucking statist, everyone woke knows George Washington was the worst American President. Just look at his illegal usurpation when he overthrew the Articles of Confederacy and replaced them with the "Constitution".

The rest of the Presidents just followed his tyrannical path.

1 Pepperglue 2017-09-22

When are we going to get the Royalists back, and start petitioning to become a part of UK again?

1 ArchHermit 2017-09-22

Not soon enough.

1 ____________13 2017-09-22

Not when Charles is king, that's for sure.

1 Gladbach10 2017-09-22

I like how fast Assange went from "brilliant mystery hacker man" to "retard with shit hot takes."

1 ComedicSans 2017-09-22

He was some super-aspie with a website. That's it. He basically just took credit for things other people posted, and out himself in the limelight. He was never not a complete sperg.

1 shaneoffline 2017-09-22

super-aspie, tho

You respect him more than you want to admit.

1 Gladbach10 2017-09-22

So he's like you, but with a website?

1 ComedicSans 2017-09-22

I have never had to scrape Putin off the back of my throat, so no.

1 Gladbach10 2017-09-22

You should try it, товарищ, it is quite the experience.

1 ComedicSans 2017-09-22

I don't want to live in the Ecuadorian embassy tho.

1 Gladbach10 2017-09-22