Look, it's '88. The entire study is psy ops, done without access of any sort.
A couple of easy things to pick on are that Soviets did continue to operate helicopters and battlefield aviation after introduction of stingers, and spetznaz deployment was indeed pretty routine.
Anyway, there are no shortage of more rigorous works on that war. Why choose an obvious propaganda piece from '88?
A couple of easy things to pick on are that Soviets did continue to operate helicopters and battlefield aviation after introduction of stingers, and spetznaz deployment was indeed pretty routine.
The article doesn't even say they stopped using helicopters, you seem to have just made that up.
This is what it says:
But the study also concludes that small elite Soviet units using tactics similar to those used by United States forces in Vietnam had been successful in combating the Islamic guerrillas, until the guerrillas acquired the Stingers to shoot down the helicopters and planes the units depended on for operational support.
They're saying they were pretty successful until they started getting shot down, not that they stopped flying.
and spetznaz deployment was indeed pretty routine.
citation needed.
Anyway, there are no shortage of more rigorous works on that war. Why choose an obvious propaganda piece from '88?
I mean, you failed to raise a valid point, the only point you made was something about helicopters, and you only made that point because your reading comp is lacking and you thought it said they stopped the missions.
TBH the US won every single battle, but the veitcong were so pathetic that the US public got sick of them getting massacred every time they left the jungle.
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1 HodorTheDoorHolder 2017-09-29
The US pulled out of Vietnam. So I guess it was more of a loss by forfeit.
1 pizzashill 2017-09-29
The US likely could have propped up South Vietnam forever, the political will just didn't exist.
Vietnam was more so a battle in the cold war, and we won the cold war.
1 HodorTheDoorHolder 2017-09-29
The Russians saw the Vietnam War and thought to themselves, "Hey, I wanna try that!" and they did try that for ten years in Afghanistan.
1 pizzashill 2017-09-29
The red army was pretty clearly shown to be a joke in Afghanistan, the poor performance was just nuts.
1 HodorTheDoorHolder 2017-09-29
Damn that looks like they don't have a great military.
1 kermit_was_right 2017-09-29
Lmao that's blatant propaganda bro
1 pizzashill 2017-09-29
What, exactly, is propaganda in what I linked?
1 kermit_was_right 2017-09-29
Literally the entire piece, from top to bottom.
1 pizzashill 2017-09-29
Can you point out what was factually incorrect in that article?
1 kermit_was_right 2017-09-29
Look, it's '88. The entire study is psy ops, done without access of any sort.
A couple of easy things to pick on are that Soviets did continue to operate helicopters and battlefield aviation after introduction of stingers, and spetznaz deployment was indeed pretty routine.
Anyway, there are no shortage of more rigorous works on that war. Why choose an obvious propaganda piece from '88?
1 pizzashill 2017-09-29
The article doesn't even say they stopped using helicopters, you seem to have just made that up.
This is what it says:
They're saying they were pretty successful until they started getting shot down, not that they stopped flying.
citation needed.
I mean, you failed to raise a valid point, the only point you made was something about helicopters, and you only made that point because your reading comp is lacking and you thought it said they stopped the missions.
1 ucstruct 2017-09-29
They had about 10 other invasions of various countries not at war with them before that too.
1 Sarge_Ward 2017-09-29
Who let you back in?
1 icyhat 2017-09-29
'Nam? We lost that war at home, sonny.
1 respaaaaaj 2017-09-29
TBH the US won every single battle, but the veitcong were so pathetic that the US public got sick of them getting massacred every time they left the jungle.
1 kermit_was_right 2017-09-29
Soviets won every battle in Afghanistan. Us too.
Being outlasted is still losing though.
1 TSwizzlesNipples 2017-09-29
Vietnam was just a military conflict.
1 Ardvarkeating101 2017-09-29
I think it's also a country somewhere