The risk of drama increases exponentially the more people are involved in a relationship. The risk and amount of drama involved may be calculated using the dot product of each individual's Drama Quotient, which is represented as a vector containing the severity of their tantrums and the regularity with which they put themselves in a situation that will trigger one.
Yes you are a prude for not wanting to fuck anything that moves. If you can't be a part of a human fuckipede then you just aren't living life to it's fullest. Being a pansexual polyamorous person who will get it on with anyone, regardless of color, sex, gender identity, weight, height, disability or age makes you an enlightened individual whose superior values will one day be the norm.
Sure, a lot of them suffer from the internet atheist phenomenon where they're convinced they've found the Real Truth about human relationships there are plenty of people that have made it work as well as any stable monogamous couple.
The problem cases are probably when one partner just springs it on another while in the middle of a regular relationship. I honestly have not seen this work out too well since even when this arrangement is "stable" since it often means one person is bottling resentment. I think older people are better at it since they know what they are after a decent amount of trial and error.
I’ve only ever watched them be complete shitshows OR slowly whittle down to “couple that occasionally has threesomes” so personally I’m inclined to think they’re not particularly stable investments
My wife “Jane” and I have been married for two years, together 4. Before we were married, we were what I would call “poly-lite” in that she liked threesomes and would occasionally have sex with another person (generally a female). She introduced me to this and it took a lot of negotiating and working through emotions. I felt very vulnerable, I felt insufficient and always felt inferior. It's emotions I've come to realize will never go away and this lifestyle isn't for me.
It was totally against my nature and against the grain and took a lot of talking, negotiating, boundary setting and discussion. I was willing to go along with it because of how much I loved my wife. She began to get involved with swinging, and I would only rarely take part. I never found much enjoyment in it, I found it awkward and the sex was never all that good. Strangers having sex is like any one-night stand – it’s hard to tell what the other person likes and is often in the heat of the moment. There's also a lot of boundaries, rules and people looking to violate those. My wife and I wound-up in a situation where she and I (supposed to, in my case) have side partners – no emotion, just sex. She primarily has sex with someone she met through swinging. She generally has sex with a guy and on occasion another woman (sometimes the three of them will get together). Because of my calendar, I really don’t have anywhere near the free time she does. She portends that she doesn’t want to continue doing this after having children and has put a deadline of 33 years old on this. After that, she’ll wind-down her time in the “scene” and we’ll go back to monogamy (I don't actually believe this at all).
I can’t put up with anymore of this. When I raise issues, my wife calls our sex positive “therapist” who pushes me to work through my emotions. My emotion is this: I don’t like it. And, as a result, I’ve become extremely close with someone else. My wife’s side partner, “Aston” is married to a woman a lot like me – someone who is in the scene because of her partner. Anya [29/F] and I spend time together – we’ll grab coffee while our partners do the deed. She’s been teaching me Ukrainian and we have become intimate emotionally. Anya and I talk a lot, we confide in each other and recently she confided in me that she hates this lifestyle and cannot do it. Aston and Jane have become more vocal about supporting this lifestyle, it’s leaked from the privacy of our bedroom and some people in our social circles now know. A good chunk of our social lives revolves around this. Aston has also taken up with a second woman, someone my wife has seen on occasion.
Very recently, Anya and I weren’t involved in the goings-on with a group of people. We met at my place and she flat out told me that she’s fed up and that she fancies me. We cuddled and watched Netflix and I just blurted out that I loved her, I hated this whole thing. We kissed and talked the whole night. She confirmed she feels the same way, she wants out of this lifestyle and for us this is emotional. This breaks pretty much every rule of polyamory I can think of.
My wife came home in the very early hours, had been drinking heavily again and almost immediately passed out. I talked with Anya some more and confirmed we’re going to talk to our partners and end this. We’re going to move out and start “dating” i.e. a real, monogamous, relationship (we'll get separate places). Anya went home and immediately told Aston and is packing her things, as we speak. Jane is still sleeping (almost 3PM EST as I write this) and I need to tell her today. I’ve taken tomorrow and Tuesday off from work. I just don’t have the words. I need help.
I feel really crappy about this, about myself and about failing at all of this. I feel horrible about how Jane is going to feel and about what happens next. I have no idea how I tell family or friends or colleagues and I just don't know what's next. But, I just need help putting words together to start this whole thing in motion. Please help.
tl;dr: I am in a poly marriage and I want out. I'm about to tell my wife (it's almost 3PM EST) that I want a divorce and will be moving out. I don't know how to tell her or take this first step and I'm not sure what to do. Please help.
Poly people are the result of communist propaganda trying to destroy the family unit so the government can have complete control of the children and future of the world.
It's why poly, pedo, and general deviancy is so core to all leftist ideology.
Read your Fourier, Engels, Reich, Marcuse, and Foucault to see where these deviants got their brainwashing from.
The Elite are all about transcendence and living forever and the secrets of the universe and they want to know all this; some are good, some are bad, some are mixed. But, the good ones don’t ever want to organise, the bad instead are the ones that organise, because they lust after power. Powerful consciousnesses don’t want to dominate other people, they want to empower them, so they don’t tend to get together until things are really late in the game, then they come together. Evil is always defeated, because good is so much stronger. And, we’re on this planet and Einstein’s physics showed it, Maxwell’s physics showed it, all of it, that there is at least twelve dimensions, and now that’s why all the top scientist and billionaires are coming out saying it’s a false hologram, it is artificial. The computers are scanning it and finding tensions points where it is artificially projected and gravity is bleeding in to this universe, that’s what they call dark matter. So, we’re like a thought or a dream that’s like a wisp in some computer program, some god’s mind, whatever. They’re proving it all, it’s all coming out.
Now, there’s like this sub transmission zone below the third dimension that’s just turned over the most horrible things, which is what it resonates to, and it’s trying to get up into the third dimension, that’s just a basic level consciousness to launch into the next levels. And our species is already way up to the fifth, sixth dimension consciously, our best people. But there is this big war trying to like, basically destroy humanity, because humanity has free will, and there is a decision to which level we want to go to. We have free will, so evils will have to contend, not just good. And the Elites themselves believe they’re racing, using human technology to try to take our best minds, and build some type of breakaway civilization where they’re going to merge with machines, transcend and break away from the failed species that is man, which is kind of like a false transmission because they’re thinking what they are as ugly and bad, projecting on to themselves instead of believing, no it’s a human test about building us up, and so, Google set up eighteen, nineteen years ago. I knew about this before it was declassified, I’m just saying I have good sources.
They want to build a giant artificial system, and Google believes the first artificial intelligence will be a supercomputer based on the neuron activities of the hive mind of humanity with billions of people wired into the internet exchange (holy shit), and so all of our thoughts go into it, and we’re actually building a computer that has real neurons in real time that’s also psychically connected to us, that are organic creatures so that they will have current prediction powers, future prediction powers, a true crystal ball. But the big secret is, once you have a crystal ball and know the future, you can add stimuli beforehand and make decisions that can control the future. And so then, it’s the end of consciousness and freewill for individuals as we know, and a true two-point-o, in a very bad way, hive mind consciousness with an A.I jacked into everyone, knowing our hopes and dreams, delivering it to us, not in some PKD wire head system, where we plug in and give up our consciousness because of unlimited pleasure, but because we were already wired in and absorbed before we knew it by giving over our consciousness to this system our daily decisions that it was able to manipulate and control into a larger system. There’s now a human counterstrike taking place to shut this up before it gets fully into place and to block these systems, and to try and have an actual debate about where humanity goes, and cut off the paedophiles and psychic vampires that are controlling this A.I system before humanity is destroyed.
The paedophiles, at whatever level, they rule the devil, whatever you want to call, this interdimensional thing, which gives them advanced off world technology, the fallen one, that’s out of this world, is giving them advanced knowledge on how to construct these systems that have already been used before on other populations. That’s Satan. Satan became something, that you know, the stupid preacher tells you about, who’s totally controlled or something you read about in the news or TV, but this is an interdimensional force that wants to influence us to build something that absorbs us and kills us, rather than the divine free will we are given to build something much better and empowers the species so the species is now making a decision about its entire future. I know from looking at all the data, researching it, studying it, watching the enemy, that’s the big decision that humanity has now got before us.
Yeah because sane people dont want the baggage it would bring so that leaves cheaters and beta men who have convinced themselves they enjoy cuckholdry for fear that their cheating slut girlfriend will leave them for a real man.
I guess what I'm saying is that the word "polyamory" isn't meant to be the opposite of monogamy. It's more meant to be a distinguishing term from other types of nonmonogamy. And not just a distinguishing term for monogamous people, but for other nonmonogamous people. So open relationships, swingers, etc. People who describe themselves as polyamorous are generally trying to say to other nonmonogamous people, "hey, I know you are open to seeing other people or having sex with other people, but I'm more excited about starting relationships."
So, you're question reads to me, "why am I ok with people fucking other people outside their primary relationship, but not ok with them having an emotional relationship with them?" Otherwise it seems that you should direct your disgust at nonmonogamous people. That could make sense with the whole "grotesque deviants" and wondering if you're a "prude." I'm saying it doesn't make much sense to me that you would not be prudish about people fucking whoever they wanted, but that you became a total prude with them wanting to love each other as well. That gap doesn't seem to fall within the "prude" paradigm.
I'm not weirded out by the relationships so much, they can do whatever and it doesn't mess with my life in any way. The problem with poly people is that they seem absolutely set on recruitment, and can be really single-minded about it. It's super off-putting. I mean, if you're in a relationship and you think I'm hot and you wanna bang, that's great... but I'm going take a hard pass on stuff that involves the heart over the genitals, kthxbye.
21 comments
1 MasterLawlz 2017-10-15
The entirety of human history have shown us that relationships between two people are risky, let alone more than that.
1 TheCodexx 2017-10-15
The risk of drama increases exponentially the more people are involved in a relationship. The risk and amount of drama involved may be calculated using the dot product of each individual's Drama Quotient, which is represented as a vector containing the severity of their tantrums and the regularity with which they put themselves in a situation that will trigger one.
1 bareballzthebitch 2017-10-15
Yes you are a prude for not wanting to fuck anything that moves. If you can't be a part of a human fuckipede then you just aren't living life to it's fullest. Being a pansexual polyamorous person who will get it on with anyone, regardless of color, sex, gender identity, weight, height, disability or age makes you an enlightened individual whose superior values will one day be the norm.
1 TrailerParkBride 2017-10-15
Maybe I should change my godly ways. I have always wanted to bussyfuck a transgender nugget with a magnum Bad Dragon.
1 weniscommander 2017-10-15
People in open/poly relationships are fine.
Sure, a lot of them suffer from the internet atheist phenomenon where they're convinced they've found the Real Truth about human relationships there are plenty of people that have made it work as well as any stable monogamous couple.
The problem cases are probably when one partner just springs it on another while in the middle of a regular relationship. I honestly have not seen this work out too well since even when this arrangement is "stable" since it often means one person is bottling resentment. I think older people are better at it since they know what they are after a decent amount of trial and error.
1 bleepis 2017-10-15
I’ve only ever watched them be complete shitshows OR slowly whittle down to “couple that occasionally has threesomes” so personally I’m inclined to think they’re not particularly stable investments
1 0987654231 2017-10-15
My wife “Jane” and I have been married for two years, together 4. Before we were married, we were what I would call “poly-lite” in that she liked threesomes and would occasionally have sex with another person (generally a female). She introduced me to this and it took a lot of negotiating and working through emotions. I felt very vulnerable, I felt insufficient and always felt inferior. It's emotions I've come to realize will never go away and this lifestyle isn't for me.
It was totally against my nature and against the grain and took a lot of talking, negotiating, boundary setting and discussion. I was willing to go along with it because of how much I loved my wife. She began to get involved with swinging, and I would only rarely take part. I never found much enjoyment in it, I found it awkward and the sex was never all that good. Strangers having sex is like any one-night stand – it’s hard to tell what the other person likes and is often in the heat of the moment. There's also a lot of boundaries, rules and people looking to violate those. My wife and I wound-up in a situation where she and I (supposed to, in my case) have side partners – no emotion, just sex. She primarily has sex with someone she met through swinging. She generally has sex with a guy and on occasion another woman (sometimes the three of them will get together). Because of my calendar, I really don’t have anywhere near the free time she does. She portends that she doesn’t want to continue doing this after having children and has put a deadline of 33 years old on this. After that, she’ll wind-down her time in the “scene” and we’ll go back to monogamy (I don't actually believe this at all).
I can’t put up with anymore of this. When I raise issues, my wife calls our sex positive “therapist” who pushes me to work through my emotions. My emotion is this: I don’t like it. And, as a result, I’ve become extremely close with someone else. My wife’s side partner, “Aston” is married to a woman a lot like me – someone who is in the scene because of her partner. Anya [29/F] and I spend time together – we’ll grab coffee while our partners do the deed. She’s been teaching me Ukrainian and we have become intimate emotionally. Anya and I talk a lot, we confide in each other and recently she confided in me that she hates this lifestyle and cannot do it. Aston and Jane have become more vocal about supporting this lifestyle, it’s leaked from the privacy of our bedroom and some people in our social circles now know. A good chunk of our social lives revolves around this. Aston has also taken up with a second woman, someone my wife has seen on occasion.
Very recently, Anya and I weren’t involved in the goings-on with a group of people. We met at my place and she flat out told me that she’s fed up and that she fancies me. We cuddled and watched Netflix and I just blurted out that I loved her, I hated this whole thing. We kissed and talked the whole night. She confirmed she feels the same way, she wants out of this lifestyle and for us this is emotional. This breaks pretty much every rule of polyamory I can think of.
My wife came home in the very early hours, had been drinking heavily again and almost immediately passed out. I talked with Anya some more and confirmed we’re going to talk to our partners and end this. We’re going to move out and start “dating” i.e. a real, monogamous, relationship (we'll get separate places). Anya went home and immediately told Aston and is packing her things, as we speak. Jane is still sleeping (almost 3PM EST as I write this) and I need to tell her today. I’ve taken tomorrow and Tuesday off from work. I just don’t have the words. I need help.
I feel really crappy about this, about myself and about failing at all of this. I feel horrible about how Jane is going to feel and about what happens next. I have no idea how I tell family or friends or colleagues and I just don't know what's next. But, I just need help putting words together to start this whole thing in motion. Please help.
tl;dr: I am in a poly marriage and I want out. I'm about to tell my wife (it's almost 3PM EST) that I want a divorce and will be moving out. I don't know how to tell her or take this first step and I'm not sure what to do. Please help.
1 scatmunchies 2017-10-15
Gay
1 backltrack 2017-10-15
Kick her vulva out on the street
1 SperglockHolmes 2017-10-15
Poly people are the result of communist propaganda trying to destroy the family unit so the government can have complete control of the children and future of the world.
It's why poly, pedo, and general deviancy is so core to all leftist ideology.
Read your Fourier, Engels, Reich, Marcuse, and Foucault to see where these deviants got their brainwashing from.
1 ironicshitpostr 2017-10-15
wew
1 Ed_ButteredToast 2017-10-15
The Elite are all about transcendence and living forever and the secrets of the universe and they want to know all this; some are good, some are bad, some are mixed. But, the good ones don’t ever want to organise, the bad instead are the ones that organise, because they lust after power. Powerful consciousnesses don’t want to dominate other people, they want to empower them, so they don’t tend to get together until things are really late in the game, then they come together. Evil is always defeated, because good is so much stronger. And, we’re on this planet and Einstein’s physics showed it, Maxwell’s physics showed it, all of it, that there is at least twelve dimensions, and now that’s why all the top scientist and billionaires are coming out saying it’s a false hologram, it is artificial. The computers are scanning it and finding tensions points where it is artificially projected and gravity is bleeding in to this universe, that’s what they call dark matter. So, we’re like a thought or a dream that’s like a wisp in some computer program, some god’s mind, whatever. They’re proving it all, it’s all coming out.
Now, there’s like this sub transmission zone below the third dimension that’s just turned over the most horrible things, which is what it resonates to, and it’s trying to get up into the third dimension, that’s just a basic level consciousness to launch into the next levels. And our species is already way up to the fifth, sixth dimension consciously, our best people. But there is this big war trying to like, basically destroy humanity, because humanity has free will, and there is a decision to which level we want to go to. We have free will, so evils will have to contend, not just good. And the Elites themselves believe they’re racing, using human technology to try to take our best minds, and build some type of breakaway civilization where they’re going to merge with machines, transcend and break away from the failed species that is man, which is kind of like a false transmission because they’re thinking what they are as ugly and bad, projecting on to themselves instead of believing, no it’s a human test about building us up, and so, Google set up eighteen, nineteen years ago. I knew about this before it was declassified, I’m just saying I have good sources.
They want to build a giant artificial system, and Google believes the first artificial intelligence will be a supercomputer based on the neuron activities of the hive mind of humanity with billions of people wired into the internet exchange (holy shit), and so all of our thoughts go into it, and we’re actually building a computer that has real neurons in real time that’s also psychically connected to us, that are organic creatures so that they will have current prediction powers, future prediction powers, a true crystal ball. But the big secret is, once you have a crystal ball and know the future, you can add stimuli beforehand and make decisions that can control the future. And so then, it’s the end of consciousness and freewill for individuals as we know, and a true two-point-o, in a very bad way, hive mind consciousness with an A.I jacked into everyone, knowing our hopes and dreams, delivering it to us, not in some PKD wire head system, where we plug in and give up our consciousness because of unlimited pleasure, but because we were already wired in and absorbed before we knew it by giving over our consciousness to this system our daily decisions that it was able to manipulate and control into a larger system. There’s now a human counterstrike taking place to shut this up before it gets fully into place and to block these systems, and to try and have an actual debate about where humanity goes, and cut off the paedophiles and psychic vampires that are controlling this A.I system before humanity is destroyed.
The paedophiles, at whatever level, they rule the devil, whatever you want to call, this interdimensional thing, which gives them advanced off world technology, the fallen one, that’s out of this world, is giving them advanced knowledge on how to construct these systems that have already been used before on other populations. That’s Satan. Satan became something, that you know, the stupid preacher tells you about, who’s totally controlled or something you read about in the news or TV, but this is an interdimensional force that wants to influence us to build something that absorbs us and kills us, rather than the divine free will we are given to build something much better and empowers the species so the species is now making a decision about its entire future. I know from looking at all the data, researching it, studying it, watching the enemy, that’s the big decision that humanity has now got before us.
1 ironicshitpostr 2017-10-15
Delenda est /u/Ed_ButteredToast
1 Ed_ButteredToast 2017-10-15
Si si mi amor 👌
1 glmox 2017-10-15
i think the biggest problem is the idea tends to be most appealing to people who are the least suited to actually pulling it off
1 I_DRINK_TO_FORGET 2017-10-15
Yeah because sane people dont want the baggage it would bring so that leaves cheaters and beta men who have convinced themselves they enjoy cuckholdry for fear that their cheating slut girlfriend will leave them for a real man.
1 BigLordShiggot 2017-10-15
They are ugly people who can't get laid while single. Hope this helps.
1 chemicalprogrammer 2017-10-15
Pure late capitalist decadence
1 grungebot5000 2017-10-15
you’re either a prude or gay
1 greendaythrowaway12 2017-10-15
hmm, it doesn't really work on that binary.
I guess what I'm saying is that the word "polyamory" isn't meant to be the opposite of monogamy. It's more meant to be a distinguishing term from other types of nonmonogamy. And not just a distinguishing term for monogamous people, but for other nonmonogamous people. So open relationships, swingers, etc. People who describe themselves as polyamorous are generally trying to say to other nonmonogamous people, "hey, I know you are open to seeing other people or having sex with other people, but I'm more excited about starting relationships."
So, you're question reads to me, "why am I ok with people fucking other people outside their primary relationship, but not ok with them having an emotional relationship with them?" Otherwise it seems that you should direct your disgust at nonmonogamous people. That could make sense with the whole "grotesque deviants" and wondering if you're a "prude." I'm saying it doesn't make much sense to me that you would not be prudish about people fucking whoever they wanted, but that you became a total prude with them wanting to love each other as well. That gap doesn't seem to fall within the "prude" paradigm.
my two cents
1 SRSLovesGawker 2017-10-15
I'm not weirded out by the relationships so much, they can do whatever and it doesn't mess with my life in any way. The problem with poly people is that they seem absolutely set on recruitment, and can be really single-minded about it. It's super off-putting. I mean, if you're in a relationship and you think I'm hot and you wanna bang, that's great... but I'm going take a hard pass on stuff that involves the heart over the genitals, kthxbye.