I'm not even sure what your point is. Yeah I'd rather sleep with a dakimakura of my waifu Renge-chan than with some random 3D slut but that doesn't mean I'm desperate, it's the opposite, it implies that I have standards.
As if they could get their dicks up in the first place. They have to ask before they're allowed to have a hardon. Seriously though, male feminists are complete shitbags. They hide behind their noble causes to further the patriarchy.
I really wouldn't know. My girlfriend and I like fucking each other. She likes fucking and getting her pussy eaten and I apparently do it good enough to where she's more of anti new wave feminist than I am.
To seriouspost for a second, it's not that all male feminists are rapists, the movement just attracts predators because they see it as a way to get close to their targets and make themselves seem like compassionate, noble human beings. You don't see the same thing with the alt-right because there are barely any women involved (and the ones who are tend to look like cave trolls and are often using the movement themselves to get attention because they'll otherwise be overlooked). Wherever there's a popular movement, there will be people looking to exploit it for their own benefit.
Nah. I think this has more to do with projection than actual nefarious intentions. They know that they have a fucked up view of women so they assume all men do.
Maybe that's true for some of them (especially the predators), but I wouldn't generalize like that. I'm sure a lot of men become feminists for the same reason many women do, especially if they fit somewhere within the umbrella definition of feminism rather than the extremist patriarchy theory one.
there are still a gazillion people who identify as feminists who have little to no tie to the radical intersectional/patriarchy stuff. you just don't notice them because they're overshadowed by the people screeching about #killallmen and shit, just like progressives don't notice normal republicans because the online discourse is dominated by kekistan teens
Not really, liberal feminism and radical feminism are pretty much two fundamental branches of feminism.
To make things short, liberal feminists are the ones about choice and reforming the system. They are most feminists today.
Radical feminists want a complete overhaul of the system. They are the types that want to be political lesbian or something. They are also not big fans of porn, sex work, and trans people.
I'm kind of disappointed snally. If you would like to defend feminists so much then I thought you would understand the subject a little better.
When the people actually running the feminist advocacy groups and institutions are only marginally less radical than the #killallmen types the movement is effectively shit regardless of how many people subscribe to the PR and don't think about it beyond that. Hell, if they give groups like NOW money they're contributing to the problem.
Criticism of the Duluth Model has centered on the program's insistence that men are perpetrators who are violent because they have been socialized in a patriarchy that condones male violence, and that women are victims who are violent only in self-defense
The screeching #killallmen stuff are usually trolls too, sooo many people fall for some fake facebook posts and base their whole meaning of feminism on that
there are two kinds of feminists. the ones that post #killallmen seriously, under their own name. and the ones that post #killallmen seriously, on an anonymous tumblr or twitter account.
90% of "feminists" are people who equate feminism with equal rights for women, have no further involvement with it and say "yeah, I'm a feminist" if asked because they believe themselves to be saying "Yeah, I'm in favour of equal rights for women". These people are feminists as much as I'm a gay rights activist. I 100%, whole heartedly support equal rights for our gay brothers and sisters, but that's where it ends. I don't do anything about it, I don't take part in protests, I don't read gay rights literature, I don't read what's being said online about it, etc. and the exact same can be said for most "feminists".
Except the key difference being that modern feminism is absolutely not about equal rights for women. Most people with their eyes tuned into the mainstream news acknowledge this, which is why the vast, overwhelming majority of people will say they're all in favour of equal rights for men and women, but that they're absolutely not feminists.
also, most people who post to drama too much are ONLY exposed to the real crazies of every movement that they dont know anything about or already oppose. it makes it convenient just to decide theyre all crazy and youre right and theyre wrong and its just black and white that way.
im sure if any leftists still post to drama they think /u/botchlings represents all right wingers.
the only true evils that you see here most of the time are incels/hapas
Generalizations aside, this is why I've come to believe that a small but hardcore group of leftists believe that everyone is racist. They are racist and assume that everyone else is just afraid to admit it.
I've noticed this bizarre convergence where leftists and "right-wing" racists both decode so called "dog whistles" the same way, despite 90% of the population having no fucking idea that a whistle was blown.
When I read the account for the women that was assaulted repeatedly by the CTH guy she described a lot of the stuff that feminists come out with involving power and gender roles. He was a caricature of how radical feminists see men. It wasn't how the shut-in type of harasser usually is. I think this is why we see goony beard men types as male feminists
Using one or a handful examples of abusers to generalize thousands of people generally isn't a good idea, especially given that you let the other party play the game too. You can point to any number of terrible, predatory people in any large movement. It doesn't invalidate the movement at large.
At this point it's happened so many times that it's a hilarious and expected meme of its own. Just like super homophobic """family values""" politicians always seem to end up chugging dick.
It depends on the movement. If it's a movement that's all about morality (i.e. most religions, feminism), then it has no real purpose if it can't keep its own members in line.
Feminists think that all the problems it whinges about are caused by people not being feminist enough. Unless learning feminist theory, self criticizing, unpacking your invisible knapsack, and all that shit makes you a better purpose, what's the fucking point?
what are you talking about? this isnt the military, there's no chain of command. predators will enter whatever social group/institution/movement that they believe they will make it easier for them to find and act on their predatory motivations.
this is an issue in schools, hospitals, prisons, group homes, mental institutions, etc. basically any space where there are vulnerable or marginalized people. in terms of feminist/leftist/progressive social circles or organizations, many people probably feel like they can "let down their guard" and there are predators that know this.
OK I think some of the male feminist rapist are just straight predators in disguise.
But I also am reminded of the thing where some guys, they are gay, but they are told gay is sinful and whatever, they become closet cases, overcompensate, become like a homophobic Republican politician publicly... but inside they are still gay and they get caught sucking dicks in a restroom or coked up with two rentboys or whatever.
I think this exists for misogyny, like maybe they have some misogyny, they get bought up or become Progressive, so there's an outward overcompensation of extreme male feminism...
Also I think political activist types are gonna tend to be more rapist generally because politics & rape are both about seeing others as objects to be manipulated to your will.
Also I think political activist types are gonna tend to be more rapist generally because politics & rape are both about seeing others as objects to be manipulated to your will.
Hmm... insightful. In my lived experience (haha), politicians do want to fuck me!
You don't see the same thing with the alt-right because there are barely any women involved (and the ones who are tend to look like cave trolls and are often using the movement themselves to get attention because they'll otherwise be overlooked).
You've nevr seen the feminists, have you? In fact, let's save some time and space by saying that any woman on both sides of the stupid gender wars do look like cave trolls, because no normal woman cares about internet autist fights.
I've met a wide spectrum of people who identify as feminists, and most of them are not interested in killallmen shit, just as most conservatives aren't into making a hwhite ethnostate.
i wonder how long until these allegations start hitting gay dudes too, there was supposed to be an article about kevin spacey this week but nothing so far
You don't see the same thing with the alt-right because there are barely any women involved (and the ones who are tend to look like cave trolls and are often using the movement themselves to get attention because they'll otherwise be overlooked)
who are you talking about? when i think alt-right i think lauren southern, lana lokteff, [other aryan women]
Maybe people in flyover states and the south are generally hideous and obese but people in most cities (other than the fat southern ones) are generally more fit and therefore more attractive
Maybe people in flyover states and the south are generally hideous and obese but people in most cities (other than the fat southern ones) are generally more fit and therefore more attractive
Most young urban generic liberals are of average appearance. How many women are on the alt right, seriously? Look at those marches and stuff - it's got to be sub-5%.
It's because they let their menfolk enjoy their silly little hobbies while they work on doing things their ideology says they should be doing.
Like not wasting time marching in pussy hats Khakis and button up shirts.
Women have always been the power behind Conservatives/Republicans/Alt-Right that's why they don't believe in Radical Feminism, it's hard to blame the patriarchy for holding you back when you've organized 50 people into filling shoe boxes for poor african children single handily.
edit: this conversation has motivated me to take a screenshot of every alt right poster i come across who defends pedophilia/ephebepedophilia/straight up rape from hereon out. thanks!!
this conversation has motivated me to take a screenshot of every alt right poster i come across who defends pedophilia/ephebepedophilia/straight up rape from hereon out. thanks!!
This kind of sounds like you’re saying “it’s not the REAL male feminists who are raping people, it’s trolls infiltrating and besmirching our good name”.
You do realise actual male feminists are the rapists here right.
Is it possible you're just upset you haven't been sexually harassed by a 110 lb man-child who still hasn't developed a theory of mind which includes women?
You kids might be too young to remember, but there used to be a subreddit called shitredditsays, aka "srs". Anyway, that subreddit was probably the first trolling effort by the Russians, in hindsight. They were way over the top left social justice warrior morons. Well, one guy in particular went by the user name "youre_so_pathetic" or something similar. He was one of the worst ones. Oh yeah, he also admitted to raping his girlfriend, and was open about it. He claimed he felt really bad about it though. People threw that in his face every time he posted, for months after that. I think he eventually deleted his account in shame. Funny.
Evilore already boasted about molesting women at bars a few years ago. It been knows for a long time that he's a rapist. Neofags turn a blind eye because they wouldn't risk their den of leftist faggotry being shut down.
Neogaf isn't left-leaning, they've banned or drove away every leftist there, hell they even banned one of my accounts a few years ago because I dared to talk about the Ukrainian far-right which went against the official Western narrative at the time.
Neogaf is neoliberal, as if in the retards that spam identity politics to cosplay as leftists while supporting corrupt rightwing fuckheads like Clinton or Macron.
Well, being a member there, I say they are doing a great job making sure that the least possible amount of people get to know about this by closing/deleting all threads about it.
If it weren't for Twitter, I still wouldn't know...
So she lets him semi-famous dude drive her to a city to go drinking and partying, they shared a hotel room, and she didn't expect there was going to be any sexual activity? Also, it sounds like he retreated from the shower once she objected and made no further attempts. How was that an assault? Uncomfortable, yes. Assault? Only in her delusional mind
Nah, I live in a fairly small city and still get harrassed from time to time. Happens to every woman. It isn't an ugly dude smiling to you but usually creepy groups of guys catcalling.
Seems that you're probs a dude. Think about it, you're with a ripped gay friend sharing a hotel room. You think it's platonic. You get sick, hop in the shower and there he is, getting in right behind. Wouldn't you feel threatened? Unsafe? You tell him off and he just starts acringr grumpy, but still, you can never be sure if he wants to "strike" again.
No. I’m straight and have had gay dudes hit one me pretty aggressively. Since I’m not homophobic I didn’t lose my shit and call them rapists. I told them no thanks and they backed off.
This example just makes it sound dumber tbh. If a gay friend pulled this on me I'd tell them to fuck off but also think it was fucking hilarious. I've had a gay dude climb into my bed at party once. I just said "nah man I'm not into it" and wow, we're still friends. No problem. Not saying it wasn't different for this girl because we don't know the whole story, but if she's his "friend" surely it's not the end of the world. He was drunk too right? He apparently got the message when she told him to fuck off. Solid.
Is is it so hard to imagine something like this. Especially someone who is way stronger than you? It's not hilarious, maybe to you because it's hard to imagine. Maybe ask a female relative how she would feel if this happend, might give you some insight, they probably won't laugh about it.
I literally told you it happened to me. The guy who got into bed with me was way stronger than me. I have five sisters, and I talk to them about this stuff all the time. Maybe you could take your own advice, and look for some insight from another perspective? Your call. That high horse doesn't like you though.
I'm fine with that you don't feel like this is assault or uncomfortable in any way. But get that other people might feel that way. I have plenty of female friends who can conclude this would be super inappropriate
I do get that. Believe me. Notice that I said, "not saying it wasn't different for this girl because we don't know the whole story". I know that these things are heavily nuanced. Nobody here has any idea what happened and we're all just idiots babbling on the internet. All I have is my personal perspective and all you have is yours. My personal perspective is that in the given situation, in the way she described it, I wouldn't have felt threatened or traumatized. I have no doubt that there's more to the story, from both sides, and I'd love to hear it because I'm a gossiping prick.
Think about it, you're with a ripped gay friend sharing a hotel room
Objection. Incomplete hypothetical, lack of foundation. I not only lack ripped gay friends, but even if I had one, I would not share a hotel room with one after a night of drinking.
Lol you got me. Do you find it weird that he thought he might get lucky when this woman goes on a roadtrip with him, stays in his hotel room, and goes out partying with him? He stopped when she asked. Is it a bit blunt? Sure, but it's not assault.
She went on a roadtrip with him. Got drunk with him, and stayed in his hotel room with him. Is it weird that he thought he might get lucky? I don't think so, and then he stopped advancing the minute she said she was not cool with it...
What I think is that women and men can be platonic friends, even when drunk. I have male friends who I can get drunk and share a room with and nothing like this would happen.
If that dude tried to approach her first with a kiss/flirting and she said no and he quit, thats fine. But straight jumping into someone showering is not fine. I know he quit pursuing but I get that she would feel assaulted because it came out of nowhere.
You can't feel assaulted. You either are or you aren't. One could feel uncomfortable, or a numerous amount of other feelings, but assault is not a feeling.
Going on a road trip with a dude who isn't your boyfriend and getting drunk together alone in a hotel room. Smart, and definitely not sending any messages there.
Well, not all men are horny 24/7 and want to have sex with every woman in their proximity, you can have platonic relationships between men and women.
If we go with the assumption that this story is true, if you think a woman might be interested in you but haven't got any direct indications, you don't make your first move by jumping naked into the shower for her, that's just pure autism, and probably at the least some sort of sexual assault or harassment if it's nonconsensual. If you're autistic, make sure to get a clear "yes" before doing something.
I think that the perceived cold behavior from him afterwards might've been from him realizing he fucked up.
Wait, what side to this story could there be, that jumping naked into the shower with a puking chick isn't fucked up as hell? Like she could have said "I'll suck yo diiiiick" between heaving, and it's still creepy as fuck all.
The irony is that Neogaf is notorious for starting witch hunts without all the facts. So its no surprise people aren't waiting to hear his side. He is a victim of the community he himself cultivated.
If a girl I knew asked me to go to new orleans and share a hotel room with her, I would absolutely assume she was looking for a bit of the ol herpes hustle.
Well, first I'd assume it was some kind of joke, but then I'd think the other thing.
Had a female roommate and we were purely platonic friends. She even managed to hook me up w/co-workers. You can live and have fun with the opposite sex without it getting sexual.
Except that there is zero mention of why her boyfriend didn't go. When my friend was in the military I spent a lot of time hanging out with my friends gf. Including going places. It wasn't because there was some unspoken sexual chemistry between us. We were legitimately friends. I know thats a crazy concept.
metoo is the best drama creator for progressive circles I've seen in a a while. It's got dirty laundry airing and witch hunts in one convenient package.
Hijacking the post a drawing of the incident (not mine btw). If you used to post in that shithole and know who evilore is you'll appreciate this: https://i.imgur.com/iA2MGt8.jpg
I've googled gaming stuff before like which version of Persona 3 to play, AVGN and House of the Dead (REEEEE! Weeby Japan shit!) and couple results that come up is neoGAF from a few years ago. It's alarming just how many people have the word "Banned" next to their name, like half the damn page I'll currently be on. Probably for something inconsequential too like disagreeing with a mod or far lefty.
I have been banned from NeoGAF twice. The second time was for saying that it's ridiculous not to buy a game because its creator has criticised feminism.
Which is pretty great because the they have like... What, 1 female poster?
Dudes are just thirsty and think for some retarded reason if they post virtuously enough some woman game dev will be impressed and let them gangbang her in a McDonalds bathroom.
if you lurk enough most of them reveal their pitiful lives. fat, crippling depression, multiple diseases (hence why they love healthcare so much), addictions, kiddy fidlers, poor, the list goes on. they basically banned any normal person from posting.
I used to wonder how it was possible for men to be so balless that they identified with third wave feminists. Now it all makes sense. Projection and patheticness.
So you have a boyfriend, and you decide to travel out of town for the weekend and share a hotel room with another man and then you're surprised and offended when he got the wrong idea?
How us it sexual assault if he got out if the shower?
Honestly, the fact that the type of people who have out at neogaf treat every little sexually misread as "rape", "sexual assault", as creepy and gross and the fact that she claims she was sexually harassed 4 times in public..
Leads me to believe the truth lies somewhere in the middle, considering the fact that she was in a hotel room with a man.
Fucking hilarious. If I were a woman I would stay away from those male feminists. They are all sycophant beta cuck predators looking to get close to a woman by any means necessary.
Some guy misinterpreted my social retardation as sexual attraction.
Suddenly, a wave of fear shook through me. My senses screamed: "DANGER", "GET OUT". But I couldn't get out. I was paralyzed in terror. As he rushed out the door, repeatedly apologizing, I knew this would be the day I was finally raped for real. The daily street rape and twitter rape had done nothing to prepare me.
Also, every bad thing that happened to me since then has been his fault. He did it. Not me. Him.
I'd like to use your comment as an opportunity to note that the described event is a good example of poor boundaries in part of the victim.
Nobody enjoys this and very few tolerate the suggestion, but it is worth asking why he was in a position to get into the shower naked with her and then subsequently sulk around and make things awkward.
Is it acceptable in general to go on one on one heavy drinking road trips with your opposite sex friend when you're in a committed relationship? Many would like to say yes in the interests of a more enlightened and libertarian modern way of living, but it is reasonable, I would say, for someone to be suspicious of such an arrangement.
The victim in this story essentially placed herself at great risk for victimization. The possibility of assault was not adequately considered. The suggestive nature of going on a lone road trip and becoming heavily intoxicated with a member of the opposite sex was not considered.
In practice, those with a lack of attention to such practical boundaries may also engage in small boundary crossings and violations in the interpersonal dynamic as well, leading to misinterpretation from the socially retarded, e.g. website admins.
THis woman was surprised and offended that her semi-famous "friend" who drove her to a city to go out drinking and partying and with whom she was sharing a hotel room was sexually interested in her? How fucking naive are these women. You don't share a hotel room with a dude after a night of drinking unless he is gay or you are ok with the possibility something may happen. Whether there is prior intent or not, putting two intoxicated people in the same room to sleep is, at a minimum, just asking for miscommunication and misread signals.
Who is it sexual harassment if it was simply a matter of miscommunication and Miss signals and the gentleman honestly thought that is why she went with him? She is a victim of poor decision-making and being naive.
Attempting to kiss her on the bed, fine. As you said it is kind of predictable that the man expects something from this whole situation. However instantly getting naked and walking in a person who just vomitted is not only disgusting but also socially retarded and ignores asking for consent totally. How is this not sexual harrasment? It's no different from walking up to a total stranger and trying to have sex with them. The "implication" from the whole trip doesn't allow you to skip actually asking. This would only ever be acceptable in a relationship in wich things are clear.
Even if they already made out on the couch and she consented it would be weird as hell to try to continue this shit after she suddenly felt sick and went to the bathroom.
I dont know if that is true and I am to lazy to check that right now. However this action is at least very uncomfortable and could get very scary. The victim is in no way to blame here.
Indeed. Taking a shower does not mean "HEY LETS FUCK IN THE SHOWER!"
Sure, she could have been more explicit by saying that she does not want to fuck but you would know which of your close lady friends are taken and avoid adultry on purpose. Poor woman wanted to share the room because of the costs probably. Tyler Malka is a known creep, I wish she would have know that.
How hard is it to ask whether or not someone is interested in you, instead creeping up onto someone naked in the shower? Wtf.
Not even just the risk of sexual assault, assuming he's not a predator and just a normal guy, it's entirely possible he would think based on the context that she was into him because of the aforementioned one on one heavy drinking road trip. Hell, based on the context I think most guys would assume she was interested.
Obviously his judgement was off, and his timing could have been better.
But say he had just tried to kiss her earlier in the night instead of getting into the shower when she was about to puke.
the rest of the story remains the same, she tells him to stop and he does, then he acts distant towards her for the rest of the trip and later she attributes this to causing her to break up with her boyfriend and writes an fb post.
It's clear you've chosen a side already, and I have no real interest in defending this guy, but he DID take no for an answer, which is the right thing to do, and he WAS responding to interest she was showing him by going on a one-on-one road trip and getting drunk, and agreeing to share a hotel room and apparently at no previous point specifying before hand that she was uninterested in a sexual relationship with the single, heterosexual man she had been spending so much time with and become so close to.
I mean maybe she was just totally oblivious to the very obvious signs he was into her, idk maybe some people are actually that dense.
He definitely grabbed ass while in Europe. Bragged about it on NeoGAF too. Now any mention of it gets you banned and either the post deleted or your account gets nuked.
I read the Twitter messages and what he did was wrong, oh hell yeah it was. But does that fall under sexual assault? Sounds to me like he didn't do anything and that he left the shower. So I'd say this one doesnt really fall under sexual assault, but hold on, a website that has his history of sexual assault? What is that all about? One thing is for sure, it's a big mess right now. Threads about it are closed within minutes there and the ModBot says a statement is forthcoming. So I wonder, will this statement be from himself since he's the CEO or is there actually someone above him? A parent company? Because if not, that statement will mean Jack shit really.
As creepy and pervy as Evilore may be, this girl is ridiculous and I'm saying that as a woman. The entire concept of getting drunk alone in a hotel room you're sharing with a "semi-famous friend" of the opposite sex while you're in a relationship is just bad. Part of keeping yourself safe as a woman is knowing what situations to avoid and making smart choices.
And let's not even get into the edited in "street harassment counter". You don't get harassed four separate times on a two block walk unless you're walking through a men's prison block.
Okay he's a heterosexual, single man who is making an effort to spend time with you outside of a professional setting, set up this extravagant outing so on and so forth. You are a woman who is so attractive she apparently can't walk two blocks without being aggressively propositioned for sex multiple times.
Why wouldn't he be interested in you? He's not gay, he doesn't have a girlfriend, he enjoys your company, so why not? Is he just that much of a loser that you assume there's no possible way he could have any sort of sexuality?
Seriously make some female friends, make some gay friends, make some guy friends and establish boundaries, don't trick a guy who wants a sexual relationship with you into being your friend(when you already have a boyfriend) and completely ignore what were probably very obvious indications that he was interested in you, and then get mad when he makes his interest evident.
If he had done anything other than get out of the shower this would be a different discussion but he specifically took no for an answer, and of course he was distant afterwards, that's how people respond to embarrassing rejections
So they drove to another city together to party, and she took a shower in his hotel room, he misunderstood her intentions, went into a shower with her. When she told him this wasn't what she wanted, he left the shower again. This constitutes horrible sexual assault?
If you hang out with a women who already has a BF, with the offchance that she will consent to you while drunk...that's being a fucking loser and a fucking creep. Even drunk, she did not consent. That goes to show how much of a incel creep that Tyler Malka is. And fucking yes it is sexual harrasment to creep upon someone naked. Like what world do you live in? Is it only assault when the penis goes inside the vagina???
I have no idea what Neogaf is or who this Tyler dude is, but all things considered I don't think misreading a situation is that big of an issue. He did back out as soon as she made her lack of interest apparent.
It is assault when there is use of violence or threat of violence.
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1 SnapshillBot 2017-10-19
I'm not even sure what your point is. Yeah I'd rather sleep with a dakimakura of my waifu Renge-chan than with some random 3D slut but that doesn't mean I'm desperate, it's the opposite, it implies that I have standards.
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1 subpoutine 2017-10-19
Preach.
1 v_is_one_person 2017-10-19
Please tell me there is a NeoGAF thread on this.
1 FulfilledOxyuranus 2017-10-19
There was but it got deleted.
But not before it caught the attention of one Patrick Klepek.
http://archive.is/Mvpih
1 v_is_one_person 2017-10-19
HAHAHAHA!
Do the right thing, Patrick.
1 plotstomper 2017-10-19
Yeah, wondering if he's gonna do one of his expose pieces on this or just stay silent
1 v_is_one_person 2017-10-19
Fingers crossed.
1 MG87 2017-10-19
Holy shit, fucker admitted to it?
1 weltallic 2017-10-19
https://i.imgur.com/5xwIb01.jpg (nsfw)
1 shitpost953 2017-10-19
baleeted
http://archive.is/tKRxo
1 ioiidnsksi 2017-10-19
not all rapists are male feminists, but all male feminists are rapists
1 icyhat 2017-10-19
As if they could get their dicks up in the first place. They have to ask before they're allowed to have a hardon. Seriously though, male feminists are complete shitbags. They hide behind their noble causes to further the patriarchy.
1 GoodVSHero 2017-10-19
it takes real strength to suppress your boner until allowed tbh
1 icyhat 2017-10-19
I really wouldn't know. My girlfriend and I like fucking each other. She likes fucking and getting her pussy eaten and I apparently do it good enough to where she's more of anti new wave feminist than I am.
1 snallygaster 2017-10-19
To seriouspost for a second, it's not that all male feminists are rapists, the movement just attracts predators because they see it as a way to get close to their targets and make themselves seem like compassionate, noble human beings. You don't see the same thing with the alt-right because there are barely any women involved (and the ones who are tend to look like cave trolls and are often using the movement themselves to get attention because they'll otherwise be overlooked). Wherever there's a popular movement, there will be people looking to exploit it for their own benefit.
1 odintal 2017-10-19
Nah. I think this has more to do with projection than actual nefarious intentions. They know that they have a fucked up view of women so they assume all men do.
1 godofdae 2017-10-19
Why not both?
1 therapy 2017-10-19
It really is both.
1 snallygaster 2017-10-19
Maybe that's true for some of them (especially the predators), but I wouldn't generalize like that. I'm sure a lot of men become feminists for the same reason many women do, especially if they fit somewhere within the umbrella definition of feminism rather than the extremist patriarchy theory one.
1 heavenlytoaster 2017-10-19
Aka the one still calling itself feminism in 2017
1 snallygaster 2017-10-19
there are still a gazillion people who identify as feminists who have little to no tie to the radical intersectional/patriarchy stuff. you just don't notice them because they're overshadowed by the people screeching about #killallmen and shit, just like progressives don't notice normal republicans because the online discourse is dominated by kekistan teens
1 glmox 2017-10-19
for real tho, #killallmen
1 snallygaster 2017-10-19
this
1 MoonCricketJamFace 2017-10-19
Racist. #KillAllWhiteMen
1 OchoMorales 2017-10-19
mayopatricide
1 eDgEIN708 2017-10-19
#KillAllWhites&Men
1 TipTupKek 2017-10-19
this is good shit but i dont think its gonna get through to the new drama fanbase
1 snallygaster 2017-10-19
This isn't anything new. If I'd posted this during the GG days, it would have reached the mid double-digits, lol
1 TipTupKek 2017-10-19
tru
1 a_normal_human 2017-10-19
gg was made up of a bunch of cucks though who still thought that they would be allowed to be liberals while disagreeing with fucking stephen colbert.
1 v_is_one_person 2017-10-19
Please, women and feminists are so evil. So very, very incredibly wicked and evil: they must be stopped before they destroy us all.
But first Evilore.
1 chaosakita 2017-10-19
Radical feminists don't really care about intersectionality. It's liberal feminists who do.
1 snallygaster 2017-10-19
This is true, but aren't they more progressive than liberal? Too many branches
1 chaosakita 2017-10-19
Not really, liberal feminism and radical feminism are pretty much two fundamental branches of feminism.
To make things short, liberal feminists are the ones about choice and reforming the system. They are most feminists today.
Radical feminists want a complete overhaul of the system. They are the types that want to be political lesbian or something. They are also not big fans of porn, sex work, and trans people.
I'm kind of disappointed snally. If you would like to defend feminists so much then I thought you would understand the subject a little better.
1 heavenlytoaster 2017-10-19
Much like communism, an informed person wouldn't defend it.
1 -absolutego- 2017-10-19
When the people actually running the feminist advocacy groups and institutions are only marginally less radical than the #killallmen types the movement is effectively shit regardless of how many people subscribe to the PR and don't think about it beyond that. Hell, if they give groups like NOW money they're contributing to the problem.
1 onewalleee 2017-10-19
Wow.
1 CultOfCuck 2017-10-19
You should be president. 2020?
1 eDgEIN708 2017-10-19
You would take a second Trump term away from this sub?
1 CultOfCuck 2017-10-19
Snally would generate enough drama to compensate.
1 eDgEIN708 2017-10-19
Fair points, but I think maximum drama would be if it happened in 2028, after Trumps 3rd term.
1 vensterbankje 2017-10-19
The screeching #killallmen stuff are usually trolls too, sooo many people fall for some fake facebook posts and base their whole meaning of feminism on that
1 Gryphonboy 2017-10-19
They're like people who put down 'christian' for their religion on the census when they're about as close to a practising christian as a teapot.
1 a_normal_human 2017-10-19
there are two kinds of feminists. the ones that post #killallmen seriously, under their own name. and the ones that post #killallmen seriously, on an anonymous tumblr or twitter account.
1 Kuonji 2017-10-19
90% of "feminists" are people who equate feminism with equal rights for women, have no further involvement with it and say "yeah, I'm a feminist" if asked because they believe themselves to be saying "Yeah, I'm in favour of equal rights for women". These people are feminists as much as I'm a gay rights activist. I 100%, whole heartedly support equal rights for our gay brothers and sisters, but that's where it ends. I don't do anything about it, I don't take part in protests, I don't read gay rights literature, I don't read what's being said online about it, etc. and the exact same can be said for most "feminists". Except the key difference being that modern feminism is absolutely not about equal rights for women. Most people with their eyes tuned into the mainstream news acknowledge this, which is why the vast, overwhelming majority of people will say they're all in favour of equal rights for men and women, but that they're absolutely not feminists.
(This was stolen from someone else btw)
1 Whatafuxup 2017-10-19
gazillion?
didnt like 13% of the UK women and like 15% of the US women say they identify as feminists
1 0Fsgivin 2017-10-19
No those arn't feminists they are egalitarians. No such thing as a non power hungry insane feminist.
1 baaaaby 2017-10-19
also, most people who post to drama too much are ONLY exposed to the real crazies of every movement that they dont know anything about or already oppose. it makes it convenient just to decide theyre all crazy and youre right and theyre wrong and its just black and white that way.
im sure if any leftists still post to drama they think /u/botchlings represents all right wingers.
the only true evils that you see here most of the time are incels/hapas
1 glmox 2017-10-19
thats not true, everyone knows theres the funDIES too
1 onewalleee 2017-10-19
Generalizations aside, this is why I've come to believe that a small but hardcore group of leftists believe that everyone is racist. They are racist and assume that everyone else is just afraid to admit it.
I've noticed this bizarre convergence where leftists and "right-wing" racists both decode so called "dog whistles" the same way, despite 90% of the population having no fucking idea that a whistle was blown.
1 freet0 2017-10-19
you sent me a chat message and then never responded
what are we?
1 snallygaster 2017-10-19
wtf, I never got a notification that you replied.
but yeah, there's chat. I'm moving across the cuntry tomorrow morning though, so my message was all for naught.
1 freet0 2017-10-19
I'll miss you
1 snallygaster 2017-10-19
I'll be back
But only reluctantly, this city is a pile of hot garbage. Also, msg'd you
1 freet0 2017-10-19
Oh you're right there's actually no notification
1 aonome 2017-10-19
I figured it was because they were projecting.
When I read the account for the women that was assaulted repeatedly by the CTH guy she described a lot of the stuff that feminists come out with involving power and gender roles. He was a caricature of how radical feminists see men. It wasn't how the shut-in type of harasser usually is. I think this is why we see goony beard men types as male feminists
1 snallygaster 2017-10-19
Using one or a handful examples of abusers to generalize thousands of people generally isn't a good idea, especially given that you let the other party play the game too. You can point to any number of terrible, predatory people in any large movement. It doesn't invalidate the movement at large.
1 aonome 2017-10-19
That's not what I'm saying, just pointing out the trend. I'm not saying they're all rapists and paedos
1 snallygaster 2017-10-19
Sorry for mischaracterizing your argument
1 Hammer_of_truthiness 2017-10-19
Didnt tell them to kts smdh what are you doin snalpal
1 The_Reason_Trump_Won 2017-10-19
At this point it's happened so many times that it's a hilarious and expected meme of its own. Just like super homophobic """family values""" politicians always seem to end up chugging dick.
1 Neronoah 2017-10-19
To be fair, only one of those causes is (at least partially) defensible.
1 VicisSubsisto 2017-10-19
Yeah, who the fuck thinks families are valuable in 2017?
1 wisty 2017-10-19
It depends on the movement. If it's a movement that's all about morality (i.e. most religions, feminism), then it has no real purpose if it can't keep its own members in line.
Feminists think that all the problems it whinges about are caused by people not being feminist enough. Unless learning feminist theory, self criticizing, unpacking your invisible knapsack, and all that shit makes you a better purpose, what's the fucking point?
1 John_plainman 2017-10-19
what are you talking about? this isnt the military, there's no chain of command. predators will enter whatever social group/institution/movement that they believe they will make it easier for them to find and act on their predatory motivations.
this is an issue in schools, hospitals, prisons, group homes, mental institutions, etc. basically any space where there are vulnerable or marginalized people. in terms of feminist/leftist/progressive social circles or organizations, many people probably feel like they can "let down their guard" and there are predators that know this.
1 wisty 2017-10-19
So you're saying that being an ostensibly good feminist does not stop a person being a predator?
1 SineadObama 2017-10-19
the altright attracts gay predators like /r/drama
1 none_to_remain 2017-10-19
OK I think some of the male feminist rapist are just straight predators in disguise.
But I also am reminded of the thing where some guys, they are gay, but they are told gay is sinful and whatever, they become closet cases, overcompensate, become like a homophobic Republican politician publicly... but inside they are still gay and they get caught sucking dicks in a restroom or coked up with two rentboys or whatever.
I think this exists for misogyny, like maybe they have some misogyny, they get bought up or become Progressive, so there's an outward overcompensation of extreme male feminism...
Also I think political activist types are gonna tend to be more rapist generally because politics & rape are both about seeing others as objects to be manipulated to your will.
1 snallygaster 2017-10-19
You p much nailed it imo ime tbqhwy fampai
1 CultOfCuck 2017-10-19
Hmm... insightful. In my lived experience (haha), politicians do want to fuck me!
1 Angrygrape1337Reborn 2017-10-19
You've nevr seen the feminists, have you? In fact, let's save some time and space by saying that any woman on both sides of the stupid gender wars do look like cave trolls, because no normal woman cares about internet autist fights.
1 snallygaster 2017-10-19
I've met a wide spectrum of people who identify as feminists, and most of them are not interested in killallmen shit, just as most conservatives aren't into making a hwhite ethnostate.
1 onitsuka 2017-10-19
i wonder how long until these allegations start hitting gay dudes too, there was supposed to be an article about kevin spacey this week but nothing so far
1 nomad1c 2017-10-19
who are you talking about? when i think alt-right i think lauren southern, lana lokteff, [other aryan women]
1 Somenakedguy 2017-10-19
Lol
That's like listing Hollywood celebrity feminists as examples of feminists
Go look at any of the alt-right gatherings and it's nothing but swampbeasts and methhead looking hicks who are lacking in the teeth department
1 nomad1c 2017-10-19
compared to who? left-wing gatherings?
1 Somenakedguy 2017-10-19
Maybe people in flyover states and the south are generally hideous and obese but people in most cities (other than the fat southern ones) are generally more fit and therefore more attractive
1 die_rattin 2017-10-19
hahahahahahahahahahahah
Whoooo boy
1 Somenakedguy 2017-10-19
Are you disagreeing that flyover states and the south are full of fatties?
1 cimarafa 2017-10-19
Most young urban generic liberals are of average appearance. How many women are on the alt right, seriously? Look at those marches and stuff - it's got to be sub-5%.
1 Imgur_Lurker 2017-10-19
It's because they let their menfolk enjoy their silly little hobbies while they work on doing things their ideology says they should be doing.
Like not wasting time marching in
pussy hatsKhakis and button up shirts.Women have always been the power behind Conservatives/Republicans/Alt-Right that's why they don't believe in Radical Feminism, it's hard to blame the patriarchy for holding you back when you've organized 50 people into filling shoe boxes for poor african children single handily.
1 cimarafa 2017-10-19
Do these alt right guys really have a bunch of women pumping out 5+ Aryan kids? Because a lot of them seem pretty incel to me.
1 xoiz 2017-10-19
plz share
1 GARBAGE_MACHINE 2017-10-19
Good luck with the hereon addiction.
1 snallygaster 2017-10-19
Thanks, rly appreciate it
1 1MExplodingSuns 2017-10-19
No. They all are.
1 John_Kvetch 2017-10-19
Ok and?
1 John_Kvetch 2017-10-19
This kind of sounds like you’re saying “it’s not the REAL male feminists who are raping people, it’s trolls infiltrating and besmirching our good name”.
You do realise actual male feminists are the rapists here right.
1 Charles_Thunderpenis 2017-10-19
Personally I blame gamergate
1 John_Kvetch 2017-10-19
Personally I blame Gamerghazi
1 John_Kvetch 2017-10-19
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1 6chan 2017-10-19
I'd like to see this collection of screenshots.
1 OnlyRacistOnReddit 2017-10-19
Um, sorry to do this to you Snally... /r/hottiesfortrump
1 giroth 2017-10-19
This smells like jealousy
Is it possible you're just upset you haven't been sexually harassed by a 110 lb man-child who still hasn't developed a theory of mind which includes women?
1 metric_units 2017-10-19
110 lb ≈ 50 kg
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1 j1l1l1 2017-10-19
You kids might be too young to remember, but there used to be a subreddit called shitredditsays, aka "srs". Anyway, that subreddit was probably the first trolling effort by the Russians, in hindsight. They were way over the top left social justice warrior morons. Well, one guy in particular went by the user name "youre_so_pathetic" or something similar. He was one of the worst ones. Oh yeah, he also admitted to raping his girlfriend, and was open about it. He claimed he felt really bad about it though. People threw that in his face every time he posted, for months after that. I think he eventually deleted his account in shame. Funny.
1 Angrygrape1337Reborn 2017-10-19
/u/youre_so_pathetic is that true?
1 GunOfSod 2017-10-19
No, they're goons not Russians.
1 OniTan 2017-10-19
I don't think he's coming back.
1 GunOfSod 2017-10-19
SRS were Goons, nor Russians. The first thing the did in their new public sub was to post links to all their Facebook accounts.
Not the sharpest knives in the draw.
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1 a_normal_human 2017-10-19
lel
1 botchlings 2017-10-19
Somehow, as left leaning as NeoGaf is, they don't mind that this happened...
1 ProMikeZagurski 2017-10-19
They don't want to get banned.
1 LemonScore 2017-10-19
Evilore already boasted about molesting women at bars a few years ago. It been knows for a long time that he's a rapist. Neofags turn a blind eye because they wouldn't risk their den of leftist faggotry being shut down.
1 RaoulDukeff 2017-10-19
Neogaf isn't left-leaning, they've banned or drove away every leftist there, hell they even banned one of my accounts a few years ago because I dared to talk about the Ukrainian far-right which went against the official Western narrative at the time.
Neogaf is neoliberal, as if in the retards that spam identity politics to cosplay as leftists while supporting corrupt rightwing fuckheads like Clinton or Macron.
1 Aricil 2017-10-19
In what world is Clinton or Macron right wing? I mean if you're a communist maybe
1 NeverReadTheArticle 2017-10-19
Clinton would be a right wing politician in most Western countries except America.
1 Nachttalk 2017-10-19
Well, being a member there, I say they are doing a great job making sure that the least possible amount of people get to know about this by closing/deleting all threads about it.
If it weren't for Twitter, I still wouldn't know...
1 Successful-Troll 2017-10-19
So she lets him semi-famous dude drive her to a city to go drinking and partying, they shared a hotel room, and she didn't expect there was going to be any sexual activity? Also, it sounds like he retreated from the shower once she objected and made no further attempts. How was that an assault? Uncomfortable, yes. Assault? Only in her delusional mind
1 ac_slat3r 2017-10-19
This was my biggest issue with this post. He backed off once she made it aware she was not consenting, where is the issue here?
1 MoonCricketJamFace 2017-10-19
She was "harassed" 4 times while walking two blocks... I think we know where the issue is.
1 ac_slat3r 2017-10-19
In Austin. I live here, it's not like New York or Chicago, I'm sure someone smiled at her and she felt harassed lol
1 vensterbankje 2017-10-19
Nah, I live in a fairly small city and still get harrassed from time to time. Happens to every woman. It isn't an ugly dude smiling to you but usually creepy groups of guys catcalling.
1 the_black_panther_ 2017-10-19
From time to time is one thing. 4 times while walking 2 blocks? Nah
1 OnlyRacistOnReddit 2017-10-19
She counted each syllable the evil manling uttered.
1 glmox 2017-10-19
it's plausible if "4 times" means "each of 4 guys in a group"
1 jubbergun 2017-10-19
Insert "SpongeBob Imagination GIF" here.
1 Strange_matter 2017-10-19
Must have been male feminist convention going on in the city that day.
1 o_l0_0l_o 2017-10-19
You don't think its weird that he went into her shower naked and uninvited? Just because dad did it you doesn't make it ok.
1 dexceit 2017-10-19
It's definitely autistic as fuck, but what harm did he actually cause her? The unimaginable psychological trauma of seeing his dick?
1 vensterbankje 2017-10-19
Seems that you're probs a dude. Think about it, you're with a ripped gay friend sharing a hotel room. You think it's platonic. You get sick, hop in the shower and there he is, getting in right behind. Wouldn't you feel threatened? Unsafe? You tell him off and he just starts acringr grumpy, but still, you can never be sure if he wants to "strike" again.
1 EloeOmoe 2017-10-19
No. I’m straight and have had gay dudes hit one me pretty aggressively. Since I’m not homophobic I didn’t lose my shit and call them rapists. I told them no thanks and they backed off.
1 heavenlytoaster 2017-10-19
Flattered every time tbh
1 EloeOmoe 2017-10-19
Same.
1 yourmumsanargonian 2017-10-19
This example just makes it sound dumber tbh. If a gay friend pulled this on me I'd tell them to fuck off but also think it was fucking hilarious. I've had a gay dude climb into my bed at party once. I just said "nah man I'm not into it" and wow, we're still friends. No problem. Not saying it wasn't different for this girl because we don't know the whole story, but if she's his "friend" surely it's not the end of the world. He was drunk too right? He apparently got the message when she told him to fuck off. Solid.
1 vensterbankje 2017-10-19
Is is it so hard to imagine something like this. Especially someone who is way stronger than you? It's not hilarious, maybe to you because it's hard to imagine. Maybe ask a female relative how she would feel if this happend, might give you some insight, they probably won't laugh about it.
1 yourmumsanargonian 2017-10-19
I literally told you it happened to me. The guy who got into bed with me was way stronger than me. I have five sisters, and I talk to them about this stuff all the time. Maybe you could take your own advice, and look for some insight from another perspective? Your call. That high horse doesn't like you though.
1 vensterbankje 2017-10-19
I'm fine with that you don't feel like this is assault or uncomfortable in any way. But get that other people might feel that way. I have plenty of female friends who can conclude this would be super inappropriate
1 yourmumsanargonian 2017-10-19
I do get that. Believe me. Notice that I said, "not saying it wasn't different for this girl because we don't know the whole story". I know that these things are heavily nuanced. Nobody here has any idea what happened and we're all just idiots babbling on the internet. All I have is my personal perspective and all you have is yours. My personal perspective is that in the given situation, in the way she described it, I wouldn't have felt threatened or traumatized. I have no doubt that there's more to the story, from both sides, and I'd love to hear it because I'm a gossiping prick.
1 die_rattin 2017-10-19
Females are weak little flowers compared to 'way stronger' men, says the self-described 'feminist'
1 die_rattin 2017-10-19
You sound like a homophobe tbh
1 Successful-Troll 2017-10-19
Objection. Incomplete hypothetical, lack of foundation. I not only lack ripped gay friends, but even if I had one, I would not share a hotel room with one after a night of drinking.
1 Reive 2017-10-19
Kinda homophobic.
1 heavenlytoaster 2017-10-19
Flattered every time
1 dexceit 2017-10-19
So then don't go near him again? Problem solved. And I don't ruin his reputation in the process.
1 ac_slat3r 2017-10-19
Lol you got me. Do you find it weird that he thought he might get lucky when this woman goes on a roadtrip with him, stays in his hotel room, and goes out partying with him? He stopped when she asked. Is it a bit blunt? Sure, but it's not assault.
1 Successful-Troll 2017-10-19
Exactomundo
1 vensterbankje 2017-10-19
Well jumping naked in the shower without seems the issue...not that hard to understand
1 ac_slat3r 2017-10-19
She went on a roadtrip with him. Got drunk with him, and stayed in his hotel room with him. Is it weird that he thought he might get lucky? I don't think so, and then he stopped advancing the minute she said she was not cool with it...
1 vensterbankje 2017-10-19
What I think is that women and men can be platonic friends, even when drunk. I have male friends who I can get drunk and share a room with and nothing like this would happen.
If that dude tried to approach her first with a kiss/flirting and she said no and he quit, thats fine. But straight jumping into someone showering is not fine. I know he quit pursuing but I get that she would feel assaulted because it came out of nowhere.
1 Successful-Troll 2017-10-19
THAT RIGHT THERE IS THE FUCKING PROBLEM.
You don't get to "feel assaulted." You either are in fact assaulted--i.e. someone touches you against your will--or you are not.
Being made to feel uncomfortable != a fucking crime
1 ac_slat3r 2017-10-19
You can't feel assaulted. You either are or you aren't. One could feel uncomfortable, or a numerous amount of other feelings, but assault is not a feeling.
1 TUMS_FESTIVAL 2017-10-19
She was going to fuck him but then she saw his little gremlin dick.
1 Basically_Trash 2017-10-19
Holy shit this has to be it.
1 PineconeRainbow 2017-10-19
The person who took the Facebook pics posted on the bore. They got banned from GAF simply because someone in that thread thought they were the source of the pics. http://www.thebore.com/forum/index.php?topic=45102.2880
1 80BAIT08 2017-10-19
Another day another leftist is outted as a sexual predator.
1 o_l0_0l_o 2017-10-19
Like those liberals Roger Ailes, Bill O'Reilly, Josh Duggar, Dennis Hallstert, Newt Gingrich and Donald Trump?
Cuckservatives are as bad as Muslims.
1 smokes_degrass 2017-10-19
u mad
1 o_l0_0l_o 2017-10-19
no u
1 Eternal_Mr_Bones 2017-10-19
I mean he cheated but I don't think he qualifies as a predator. A douchebag sure.
1 Oh_hamburgers_ 2017-10-19
Going on a road trip with a dude who isn't your boyfriend and getting drunk together alone in a hotel room. Smart, and definitely not sending any messages there.
1 subpoutine 2017-10-19
“But we totally didn't have sex!”
1 shallowm 2017-10-19
Well, not all men are horny 24/7 and want to have sex with every woman in their proximity, you can have platonic relationships between men and women.
If we go with the assumption that this story is true, if you think a woman might be interested in you but haven't got any direct indications, you don't make your first move by jumping naked into the shower for her, that's just pure autism, and probably at the least some sort of sexual assault or harassment if it's nonconsensual. If you're autistic, make sure to get a clear "yes" before doing something.
I think that the perceived cold behavior from him afterwards might've been from him realizing he fucked up.
1 RenegadeJoeson 2017-10-19
Yeah there is no way he has a side to the story and everything she said is 100% the truth.
1 shallowm 2017-10-19
I kept that in mind, that's why I said
1 sheepinblack 2017-10-19
Wait, what side to this story could there be, that jumping naked into the shower with a puking chick isn't fucked up as hell? Like she could have said "I'll suck yo diiiiick" between heaving, and it's still creepy as fuck all.
1 Zozbot 2017-10-19
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1 RenegadeJoeson 2017-10-19
A lil puke on your dick never hurt anyone.
1 weltallic 2017-10-19
Excuse me?
https://i.imgur.com/QZ6HkDF.jpg
1 blankemp 2017-10-19
The irony is that Neogaf is notorious for starting witch hunts without all the facts. So its no surprise people aren't waiting to hear his side. He is a victim of the community he himself cultivated.
1 SpectroSpecter 2017-10-19
If a girl I knew asked me to go to new orleans and share a hotel room with her, I would absolutely assume she was looking for a bit of the ol herpes hustle.
Well, first I'd assume it was some kind of joke, but then I'd think the other thing.
1 shallowm 2017-10-19
If, other than the invite to the trip itself, no romantic interest was shown, would you make your first advance by jumping into the shower with her?
I mean, for fucks sake, you haven't even kissed yet.
1 ragnathorn 2017-10-19
These autists act like there isn't a platonic way to spend intimate time with a female. Not surprised tbh.
1 Kuonji 2017-10-19
Well it's not like there's a lot of success stories of this happening that people can look to for reference.
1 FlashFlood_29 2017-10-19
So hungry for the poon they'll accept anything as a sign of interest in being naked together in a shower..
1 0Fsgivin 2017-10-19
It's pretty clear she was planning on sleeping with him and changed her mind once she saw him naked.
1 BlackMartian 2017-10-19
Had a female roommate and we were purely platonic friends. She even managed to hook me up w/co-workers. You can live and have fun with the opposite sex without it getting sexual.
Women are just dudes who didn't grow penises.
1 DistortedLines 2017-10-19
Not all of them
1 heavenlytoaster 2017-10-19
"Would you set me up with your friends" is actually a good litmus test.
Probably want to be more subtle than to ask it straight out, but yeah
1 weltallic 2017-10-19
This is the sort of violent hatespeech that britain is rightfully arresting people for.
Do you have any idea how many trans people you drove to suicide by these weaponized words?
Spez needs to TAKE A STAND against hatesubs that are used as a vehicle to literally kill people.
1 MrNotSpecified 2017-10-19
He's a cuck obviously she didn't expect him to make a move
1 Neronoah 2017-10-19
Saudi Arabia is in this direction ---->
1 Sloppysloppyjoe 2017-10-19
lmao you sound like the kid who helps the girl w/ her math homework and then doesn't get pussy and REEEEEs
1 Oh_hamburgers_ 2017-10-19
Yeah it's crazy to think a secluded hotel room + alcohol could ever be seen as setting the stage for sex.
1 blankemp 2017-10-19
She was clearly doing the popular mating call consisting of throwing up from too much drinking. How could he resist?
1 blankemp 2017-10-19
Except that there is zero mention of why her boyfriend didn't go. When my friend was in the military I spent a lot of time hanging out with my friends gf. Including going places. It wasn't because there was some unspoken sexual chemistry between us. We were legitimately friends. I know thats a crazy concept.
1 Etra 2017-10-19
> “stand up and name him anyway”
> “Evilore”
Was she moaning “Evilore” while he had all three inches in her bussy?
1 godofdae 2017-10-19
metoo is the best drama creator for progressive circles I've seen in a a while. It's got dirty laundry airing and witch hunts in one convenient package.
1 RaoulDukeff 2017-10-19
Hijacking the post a drawing of the incident (not mine btw). If you used to post in that shithole and know who evilore is you'll appreciate this: https://i.imgur.com/iA2MGt8.jpg
1 Kuonji 2017-10-19
Excuse me, it's "poundMeToo"
1 neutralvoter 2017-10-19
it was posted online it must be true.
#metoo sister #metoo
"street harassment count for the day (so far) is 4"
tell em sister #metoo oh lordy lordy #metoo
1 Thulean-Dragon 2017-10-19
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1 EasySchmitty 2017-10-19
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1 CultOfCuck 2017-10-19
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1 Stuntman119 2017-10-19
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1 EloeOmoe 2017-10-19
You go on a road trip to a city known for drunkin fucking, without your BF, and share a room with a dude but “I certainly didn’t lead him on”?
Sure.
1 TUMS_FESTIVAL 2017-10-19
Well he was pissed when he realized he'd been used as a chauffeur. Probably paid for the drinks and hotel , too.
1 autistitron 2017-10-19
In the feminist world, a turned-down advance is the same as knife-to-your-throat rape.
If this is the game Evilore & Neogaf sign up to this game, they need to play by it's rules.
1 thajugganuat 2017-10-19
Lol, trying to hop naked into a shower with someone you haven't even kissed is not making a move
1 EloeOmoe 2017-10-19
If your stupid it is.
I like in Austin. I’ve met this dude socially.
1 moush 2017-10-19
Sorry
1 Eternal_Mr_Bones 2017-10-19
1 HINDBRAIN 2017-10-19
Minimum encumbrance for fast-rolling, seems legit to me especially with a very short range weapon.
1 ChateauJack 2017-10-19
It is for sexually frustrated nu-males such as the male feminist nerd.
1 GrovelingPeasant 2017-10-19
Imagine taking that post at face value
1 Reive 2017-10-19
Never mind that she just got done puking.
"She's especially vulnerable now, better make my move before she's unconscious!"
1 BoalyBoal 2017-10-19
It is almost like he was extremely inebriated and couldnt make rational decisions, or something.
1 thajugganuat 2017-10-19
interesting. I've been incredibly inebriated yet I've never tried to sexually assualt someone. how could that be?
1 BoalyBoal 2017-10-19
Youve applied intent where there clearly was none. He backed off once she made it clear she wasnt into it.
He did something stupid as fuck whilst drunk as fuck. It isnt the reach youre implying it to be.
1 jezz555 2017-10-19
Okay it's a bad move granted, but James Bond did it in skyfall, it's def a move.
1 thajugganuat 2017-10-19
didn't they kiss in the hall first outside the dude chopping off the arm?
1 LefthandedLunatic 2017-10-19
I like as soon as the rapist is a leftist ppl suddenly go "Oh I beleive her" but Bill O'reilly is innocent huh?
1 Angrygrape1337Reborn 2017-10-19
Fuck Bill O'Reily.
1 Stuntman119 2017-10-19
How the fuck is he innocent lol
1 Ihurtinside 2017-10-19
No one is saying he is innocent.
1 LefthandedLunatic 2017-10-19
You don't go to the same subreddits as I do.
1 die_rattin 2017-10-19
So why don't you post it there?
1 DontTrustRedditors 2017-10-19
lol, that's just not sexual assault.
1 PM_ME_HAIRLESS_CATS 2017-10-19
NeoGAF is just the worst
1 SanityAssassins 2017-10-19
I've googled gaming stuff before like which version of Persona 3 to play, AVGN and House of the Dead (REEEEE! Weeby Japan shit!) and couple results that come up is neoGAF from a few years ago. It's alarming just how many people have the word "Banned" next to their name, like half the damn page I'll currently be on. Probably for something inconsequential too like disagreeing with a mod or far lefty.
1 LemonScore 2017-10-19
I've noticed that, too. Go to a thread from a couple of years ago and at lease 1/3 of the people in it are banned.
1 FlowerEmperor 2017-10-19
I have been banned from NeoGAF twice. The second time was for saying that it's ridiculous not to buy a game because its creator has criticised feminism.
It's an enormous male SJW cult.
1 Neon_needles 2017-10-19
Which is pretty great because the they have like... What, 1 female poster?
Dudes are just thirsty and think for some retarded reason if they post virtuously enough some woman game dev will be impressed and let them gangbang her in a McDonalds bathroom.
1 summerpils 2017-10-19
if you lurk enough most of them reveal their pitiful lives. fat, crippling depression, multiple diseases (hence why they love healthcare so much), addictions, kiddy fidlers, poor, the list goes on. they basically banned any normal person from posting.
1 poofynamanama2 2017-10-19
sounds like reddit
except for the banning thing
1 GooneyBeardRape 2017-10-19
#NotAllMaleFeminists
1 Chicup 2017-10-19
I used to wonder how it was possible for men to be so balless that they identified with third wave feminists. Now it all makes sense. Projection and patheticness.
1 MG87 2017-10-19
Does anyone have screens of the Gaf thread?
1 Emobacca 2017-10-19
Something tells me that sites that get a fuckton of clicks from Neogaf (Kotaku mainly) will feign ignorance on this one
I saw on Twitter that Patrick Klepek has been made aware and I think that dude has enough integrity to actually investigate
1 v_is_one_person 2017-10-19
/u/jasonschreier you are like a god to them. Put the coals to Evilore's scaly, flat feet!
1 iiBuzz7S 2017-10-19
He won't care. During his AMA a few weeks ago I mentioned some of the allegations and they were ignored. Maybe he saw it, but never responded.
Since then he has posted on NeoGAF, advertising his book recently as well.
1 v_is_one_person 2017-10-19
Schreier!
1 Astro501 2017-10-19
This is making me angry
1 GunOfSod 2017-10-19
So you have a boyfriend, and you decide to travel out of town for the weekend and share a hotel room with another man and then you're surprised and offended when he got the wrong idea?
How us it sexual assault if he got out if the shower?
1 froibo 2017-10-19
Cause OP is a sperg and this is literally all he does.
1 RaoulDukeff 2017-10-19
Judge the retards by their own standards not by the standard of normal rational people. They deserve it.
1 OnSnowWhiteWings 2017-10-19
Honestly, the fact that the type of people who have out at neogaf treat every little sexually misread as "rape", "sexual assault", as creepy and gross and the fact that she claims she was sexually harassed 4 times in public..
Leads me to believe the truth lies somewhere in the middle, considering the fact that she was in a hotel room with a man.
1 MrNotSpecified 2017-10-19
Fucking hilarious. If I were a woman I would stay away from those male feminists. They are all sycophant beta cuck predators looking to get close to a woman by any means necessary.
1 ChateauJack 2017-10-19
Why.
Does.
Every.
Testimony.
Of very mild sexual misconducts, reported on social media of all places, try to be as over dramatic as possible. Let that sink in.
1 SpectroSpecter 2017-10-19
Some guy misinterpreted my social retardation as sexual attraction.
Suddenly, a wave of fear shook through me. My senses screamed: "DANGER", "GET OUT". But I couldn't get out. I was paralyzed in terror. As he rushed out the door, repeatedly apologizing, I knew this would be the day I was finally raped for real. The daily street rape and twitter rape had done nothing to prepare me.
Also, every bad thing that happened to me since then has been his fault. He did it. Not me. Him.
1 uknownada 2017-10-19
He walked in while she was taking a shower.
1 OchoMorales 2017-10-19
That is what social media is designed to do.
1 sparingchanges 2017-10-19
I'd like to use your comment as an opportunity to note that the described event is a good example of poor boundaries in part of the victim.
Nobody enjoys this and very few tolerate the suggestion, but it is worth asking why he was in a position to get into the shower naked with her and then subsequently sulk around and make things awkward.
Is it acceptable in general to go on one on one heavy drinking road trips with your opposite sex friend when you're in a committed relationship? Many would like to say yes in the interests of a more enlightened and libertarian modern way of living, but it is reasonable, I would say, for someone to be suspicious of such an arrangement.
The victim in this story essentially placed herself at great risk for victimization. The possibility of assault was not adequately considered. The suggestive nature of going on a lone road trip and becoming heavily intoxicated with a member of the opposite sex was not considered.
In practice, those with a lack of attention to such practical boundaries may also engage in small boundary crossings and violations in the interpersonal dynamic as well, leading to misinterpretation from the socially retarded, e.g. website admins.
1 Successful-Troll 2017-10-19
THis woman was surprised and offended that her semi-famous "friend" who drove her to a city to go out drinking and partying and with whom she was sharing a hotel room was sexually interested in her? How fucking naive are these women. You don't share a hotel room with a dude after a night of drinking unless he is gay or you are ok with the possibility something may happen. Whether there is prior intent or not, putting two intoxicated people in the same room to sleep is, at a minimum, just asking for miscommunication and misread signals.
1 OnlyRacistOnReddit 2017-10-19
Yet, they'll say you are victim blaming.
1 Successful-Troll 2017-10-19
Yeah..common fucking sense is now victim blaming.
1 John_plainman 2017-10-19
of course "they'll say" that, because you just literally blamed her for his actions in the hotel.
are you are saying she is not actually a victim of sexual harassment?
1 Successful-Troll 2017-10-19
Who is it sexual harassment if it was simply a matter of miscommunication and Miss signals and the gentleman honestly thought that is why she went with him? She is a victim of poor decision-making and being naive.
1 Gpzjrpm 2017-10-19
Why would you want to a fuck a person who just threw up and is feeling sick?
1 Kripkringle 2017-10-19
^ Fucking 20 year old idiots who think it's common sense that you should expect people to enter bathrooms when other people are getting sick.
Not entering to check on them, which would be fine if not a little Intrusive, but to fuck/fool around in the shower.
This is straightup social retardation.
1 Successful-Troll 2017-10-19
But not a crime
1 Kripkringle 2017-10-19
Being stupid isn't a crime, correct.
Being stupid is a prison though.
1 Gpzjrpm 2017-10-19
Attempting to kiss her on the bed, fine. As you said it is kind of predictable that the man expects something from this whole situation. However instantly getting naked and walking in a person who just vomitted is not only disgusting but also socially retarded and ignores asking for consent totally. How is this not sexual harrasment? It's no different from walking up to a total stranger and trying to have sex with them. The "implication" from the whole trip doesn't allow you to skip actually asking. This would only ever be acceptable in a relationship in wich things are clear.
Even if they already made out on the couch and she consented it would be weird as hell to try to continue this shit after she suddenly felt sick and went to the bathroom.
1 Successful-Troll 2017-10-19
Because harassment requires more than a single act
1 Gpzjrpm 2017-10-19
I dont know if that is true and I am to lazy to check that right now. However this action is at least very uncomfortable and could get very scary. The victim is in no way to blame here.
1 uknownada 2017-10-19
He walked in while she was taking a shower.
1 Successful-Troll 2017-10-19
That's not a crime
1 Kripkringle 2017-10-19
You're actually retarded.
1 uknownada 2017-10-19
He walked in while she was taking a shower.
1 ThePhantomPear 2017-10-19
Indeed. Taking a shower does not mean "HEY LETS FUCK IN THE SHOWER!"
Sure, she could have been more explicit by saying that she does not want to fuck but you would know which of your close lady friends are taken and avoid adultry on purpose. Poor woman wanted to share the room because of the costs probably. Tyler Malka is a known creep, I wish she would have know that.
How hard is it to ask whether or not someone is interested in you, instead creeping up onto someone naked in the shower? Wtf.
1 jezz555 2017-10-19
Not even just the risk of sexual assault, assuming he's not a predator and just a normal guy, it's entirely possible he would think based on the context that she was into him because of the aforementioned one on one heavy drinking road trip. Hell, based on the context I think most guys would assume she was interested.
1 Kripkringle 2017-10-19
"hey, I'm going to go puke."
'SOUNDS LIKE AN INVITE FOR THE BONE ZONE!'
1 jezz555 2017-10-19
Obviously his judgement was off, and his timing could have been better.
But say he had just tried to kiss her earlier in the night instead of getting into the shower when she was about to puke.
the rest of the story remains the same, she tells him to stop and he does, then he acts distant towards her for the rest of the trip and later she attributes this to causing her to break up with her boyfriend and writes an fb post.
It's clear you've chosen a side already, and I have no real interest in defending this guy, but he DID take no for an answer, which is the right thing to do, and he WAS responding to interest she was showing him by going on a one-on-one road trip and getting drunk, and agreeing to share a hotel room and apparently at no previous point specifying before hand that she was uninterested in a sexual relationship with the single, heterosexual man she had been spending so much time with and become so close to.
I mean maybe she was just totally oblivious to the very obvious signs he was into her, idk maybe some people are actually that dense.
1 Kripkringle 2017-10-19
Holy false equivalency Batman!
1 jezz555 2017-10-19
lol ok good talk
1 Kripkringle 2017-10-19
No bud :D
1 _012345 2017-10-19
your argument is essentially the same old 'she shouldn't have worn provocative clothing' victim blaming.
1 sparingchanges 2017-10-19
Well, you'd think so, but you'd be wrong.
1 mweep 2017-10-19
Maybe because it was traumatic?
1 Bustwe 2017-10-19
TO THE LIST
1 TheTrueNobody 2017-10-19
#MeToo is the show that God favors Drama.
AUTISM VULT!
1 Reynoodlepoodle 2017-10-19
Anyone know what's up with VOAT? It just hangs on "verifing your bits" forever and I can't view NeoFAG anymore
1 FlowerEmperor 2017-10-19
So... Evilore, admin of NeoGAF, didn't sexually assault a woman in a shower?
1 iiBuzz7S 2017-10-19
He definitely grabbed ass while in Europe. Bragged about it on NeoGAF too. Now any mention of it gets you banned and either the post deleted or your account gets nuked.
1 IFuckedZoeQuinn 2017-10-19
Hahahaha I love how she threw in her "street harassment counter" at the end there to squeeze out a few more victims points.
1 Ponkers 2017-10-19
Not the first time, he's got form for being a worthless piece of shit.
https://encyclopediadramatica.rs/Tyler_Malka
1 iiBuzz7S 2017-10-19
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DMjlm75VwAEHLeJ.jpg:large
source: https://twitter.com/HUELEN10/status/921238932691369984
Also this, which is not-so-relevant to the FB post.
http://i.imgur.com/LkZQKk3.jpg
The screengrab is years old. FYI, Amir0x was caught with CP a few months ago.
1 wolfbetter 2017-10-19
Every. Fucking. Time.
1 thesnakeinthegarden 2017-10-19
"so surprised that my friend the molester tried to molest me! People kept saying how he molests women, but then he did! :("
1 Whatafuxup 2017-10-19
every single day now lmao
1 MosquitoSmasher 2017-10-19
I read the Twitter messages and what he did was wrong, oh hell yeah it was. But does that fall under sexual assault? Sounds to me like he didn't do anything and that he left the shower. So I'd say this one doesnt really fall under sexual assault, but hold on, a website that has his history of sexual assault? What is that all about? One thing is for sure, it's a big mess right now. Threads about it are closed within minutes there and the ModBot says a statement is forthcoming. So I wonder, will this statement be from himself since he's the CEO or is there actually someone above him? A parent company? Because if not, that statement will mean Jack shit really.
1 0Fsgivin 2017-10-19
No...It's pretty clear she was going to sleep with him but once she saw him naked...Decided against it.
1 assassingriskell 2017-10-19
Sure he did women never lie!!!
1 NonyaDB 2017-10-19
I was banned there a long time ago and never went back again.
My life has been all the better for it.
But I'm really enjoying the schadenfreude, it's quite delicious.
Die, NeoGAF, die.
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1 Chungking-Expresso 2017-10-19
By definition, she's not even accusing him of "sexually assaulting" him, so this is an odd title choice.
1 peppermint-pie 2017-10-19
As creepy and pervy as Evilore may be, this girl is ridiculous and I'm saying that as a woman. The entire concept of getting drunk alone in a hotel room you're sharing with a "semi-famous friend" of the opposite sex while you're in a relationship is just bad. Part of keeping yourself safe as a woman is knowing what situations to avoid and making smart choices.
And let's not even get into the edited in "street harassment counter". You don't get harassed four separate times on a two block walk unless you're walking through a men's prison block.
1 bruppa 2017-10-19
Idk who this is but I looked him and found this pic
1 jezz555 2017-10-19
Okay he's a heterosexual, single man who is making an effort to spend time with you outside of a professional setting, set up this extravagant outing so on and so forth. You are a woman who is so attractive she apparently can't walk two blocks without being aggressively propositioned for sex multiple times.
Why wouldn't he be interested in you? He's not gay, he doesn't have a girlfriend, he enjoys your company, so why not? Is he just that much of a loser that you assume there's no possible way he could have any sort of sexuality?
Seriously make some female friends, make some gay friends, make some guy friends and establish boundaries, don't trick a guy who wants a sexual relationship with you into being your friend(when you already have a boyfriend) and completely ignore what were probably very obvious indications that he was interested in you, and then get mad when he makes his interest evident.
If he had done anything other than get out of the shower this would be a different discussion but he specifically took no for an answer, and of course he was distant afterwards, that's how people respond to embarrassing rejections
1 DashneDK2 2017-10-19
So they drove to another city together to party, and she took a shower in his hotel room, he misunderstood her intentions, went into a shower with her. When she told him this wasn't what she wanted, he left the shower again. This constitutes horrible sexual assault?
1 ThePhantomPear 2017-10-19
At what point did she say: "Hey, let's fuck!"?
If you hang out with a women who already has a BF, with the offchance that she will consent to you while drunk...that's being a fucking loser and a fucking creep. Even drunk, she did not consent. That goes to show how much of a incel creep that Tyler Malka is. And fucking yes it is sexual harrasment to creep upon someone naked. Like what world do you live in? Is it only assault when the penis goes inside the vagina???
1 DashneDK2 2017-10-19
I have no idea what Neogaf is or who this Tyler dude is, but all things considered I don't think misreading a situation is that big of an issue. He did back out as soon as she made her lack of interest apparent.
It is assault when there is use of violence or threat of violence.
1 Weissen81 2017-10-19
She didn't ask him to join him, pretty simple. The creepy twat joined her anyway even though she told him she was feeling ill. He didn't give a fuck.
Yes, getting into a shower with another naked person that wasn't consensual is sexual assault.