The bullet ricocheted on the pier's concrete walkway before it struck Steinle, killing her. Zarate has admitted to shooting Steinle, but says it was an accident.
Well…. not guilty then!
lol
Oh, America you never disappoint to fail to every single principle you stand for…
He originally claimed to be trying to shoot a seal then changed his defence to it accidentally going off. I can't believe the jury let him off after that...
Well I can just not because of any law related reasons.
Since you asked so nicely I'll seriouspost just for you and give you a quick rundown on the (formerly) stateless international clique:
96% of Black Americans voted for Obama over McCain and Romney even though there wasn't some Grand Conspiracy among Black Intelligentsia to make that happen
All people operate more or less the same way, based on their reptilian, tribal interests (I don't mean lizard people, I mean based on the deeper, less evolved part of their brains) Like Catholics voting for JFK
Jews are smart and creative af, so they are extremely overrepresented in industries that require smarts and creativity (art, media, comedy, academia, etc)
These industries by unfortunate coincidence are the ones that shape culture, so when salty no-talent upjumped Austrian corporals wanna be artists look around for someone to blame for natural economic downturns Jews are the "obvious" ones to blame
The story of the rise of Nazism has been repeated over and over in history because Jews are excellent at both assimilating and retaining their unique cultural identity (again they're smart af) so for example during the Black Plague since Jews didn't drink shitwater and routinely washed their hands, they didn't die quite as often as gentiles and got blamed for it
Social Justice is taught to them from before they can walk because they've developed an excellent sense for Justice after all the thousands of years of persecution as the Outgroup
The "Aryan Master Race" nonsense was never really a thing and has been wildly over-exaggerated by postwar propagandists, but still, yeah, that's not a bad comparison to think about the Jews. They are, after all, God's chosen people.
That's actually a good point, he'll only get reelected if the economy holds out til late 2019. If the downturn happens after the election...then the real fun begins
He found a gun wrapped in shit and didn't realize it was a gun until after it had fired. It bounced off shit and then hit her. If Trump hadn't sperged the fuck out he never would have been charged.
The stuff there only counts as racist in San Francisco, also holding an opinion has nothing to do with forcing a confession. To which the defending nor his lawyer has claimed happened, this is entirely a fiction in your sick mind.
how virtuous*. leave the homeless illegal immigrants who just happen to be felons alone you racist fuck. he did more for america than anyone in this thread.
He is a job creator. Think of all the man-hours worked by cops, psychiatrists, lawyers, the guys at the mortuary who had to deal with her corpse. This just proves that illegal immigration is good for our economy.
The bullet "accidentally" richoted off the pavement into the woman. If you don't think the pavement was in on this murder then you're fucking stupid. Pavement should be locked up.
I bet you also believe that he threw it into the harbor because he got scared by the loud noise, not to try to hide evidence of him committing a crime.
No I think he freaked out because he realized he was holding a gun that went off, which the jury agreed with hence the conviction for possessing a gun as a felon.
Why yes I agree with the decision the court reached that the evidence says that he found the gun, not stole it, accidentally discharged it and a bullet bounced off the pavement and killed some mayo. Apparently believing the courts makes me unreasonable now.
Do they actually have courtrooms like that in California? We just have shitty office space with fluorescent lighting that can't even keep you from falling asleep.
I'd rather have shitty office space with fluorescent lighting that can't even keep you from falling asleep than a bunch of feminists and an Illegal American.
Yeah, I already saw how you think a guy with multiple felony convictions for violent crimes accidentally picked up a gun and accidentally murdered a girl, I flamed you incorrectly here, meant to flame you for being a "not guilty" retard rather than a "justice system is arbitrary" moron.
Looks like they couldn't prove intent but I'm not sure how they didn't get involuntary manslaughter. Maybe they didn't bother arguing because they thought they could get him on the first/second degree charges?
The nypd uses a notoriously heavy trigger pull, citing them makes you look uniformed or dishonest. Also it's on the market, not used by other police forces.
Wasn't it demonstrated that he lied about this? After changing his story from "I was shooting at sea lions" to "I found a gun wrapped in a t-shirt and it went off on its own 3 times", wasn't it determined that only one round had been fired from the weapon?
I trust the forensics more than the homeless guy panicking about being more fucked than he already is. So if forensics say one shot was fired, then that's probably what happened.
Since the one shot hit the pavement first there's reasonable doubt that the guy wasn't trying to murder someone. Even if the guys a big ol felony liar.
Here is the statute in California for manslaughter:
Manslaughter is the unlawful killing of a human being without malice. It is of three kinds:
(a) Voluntary—upon a sudden quarrel or heat of passion.
(b) Involuntary—in the commission of an unlawful act, not amounting to a felony; or in the commission of a lawful act which might produce death, in an unlawful manner, or without due caution and circumspection. This subdivision shall not apply to acts committed in the driving of a vehicle.
The defense was something to the effect of "Garcia finds a bundle of cloth among his belongings, he picks it up, and the gun discharges without Garcia even knowing that there was a gun in there."
Without knowing all the facts, it's pretty clear that the statute is supposed to encompass all the circumstances that would be considered "wrong" or unreasonable behavior.
Since he was a felon, his possession of the handgun would be enough to satisfy this statute. His firing the handgun at a public pier, where people are, is certainly an act which "might produce death... without due caution and circumspection."
It's a pretty low bar. This law is designed to convict hunters who accidentally shoot people.
If the defendant knew it was a gun, he's guilty.
The only factually innocent conclusion that the jury could draw was that they believed his defense, and the defendant didn't know there was a gun, period. It's not clear whether the prosecution fucked it up. But his story pushes the bounds of "reasonable doubt". Most people simply don't believe that his story, which just so happens to be completely exculpatory, was what actually happened. It's as improbable as it is convenient.
Agree with all of this, and assuming the jurors didn't have some info I don't have right now, based on the statute described, I'd vote on him being guilty. That being said, either this guy had the best defense lawyers in the world, or the prosecution fucked up. Considering they also tried for murder charges, I'm inclined to believe they fucked up. Hence, blame the prosecution, not the jurors or the state.
The defense played up how racist everyone is and how by deporting him all those times it prevented him from putting down roots which caused his mental state to become unstable.
Basically they gave the privileged jurors exactly what they wanted to hear.
lol its not scary i just dont like shitty people with bad ideas trying to encroach into something i like just because they have no creativity of their own
No, it's just annoying to have people inject shit that's completely unrelated and not backed by anything outside of their imagination, then claiming it's a fact.
It's not offensive, it's annoying. Also, there's no reason to think some of these things, it'd be like if I said Hillary was actually a lizard demon. It's annoying, even if it's just a stupid interpretation of things with no basis in reality.
"cultural critique" that amounts to "waaah why dont all the characters look like me and have my genitals and skin colour"
accusing people of being prejudiced unless they submit to all demands, insinuating that employment in an industry is somehow deserved because they arent represented properly
and basically a lot of post modern pseudo intellectual bullshit in place of quality control
they kept trying to insert things i already hated into stuff i already liked
Yeah, like putting politics into science fiction and fantasy for the first time ever, and having the audacity to criticize video games. They. Came. For. The. Gamers.
Well for one, it was a ricochet. Didn't it strike the pavement and hit someone 200 feet aware or something like that? There's no fucking way he shot her on purpose. He would have had to be some kind of genius to pull it off. That throws murder out the door. The only other charge was involuntary manslaughter and I think if you read this comment you get a pretty good idea of why they didn't find him guilty on that. Whether the gun magically misfired (unlikely) or he pulled the trigger (either by accident or because he's an idiot and didn't think it was loaded) killing that woman was clearly an accident. I think people are letting political bullshit cloud their view and have forgotten that people accidentally shoot each other ALL THE TIME. Hunting accidents happen every day. People kill their sons, fathers and friends by accident and they almost never get prison time for it. Hell, Dick Cheney shot a man while he was vice president. Where were his charges?
Isn't that what involuntary manslaughter is? Causing the death of another without intending to? You can be convicted of it if someone walks in front of your car, for instance.
Unless he's a bad shot. Shoot directly at her, don't know how bullets work, round drops and ricochets back up into her. I'm more inclined to think he just fired into the crowd at the pier and the round ended up where it ended up, not that he shot directly at the pretty white lady.
Hunting accidents happen every day. People kill their sons, fathers and friends by accident and they almost never get prison time for it. Hell, Dick Cheney shot a man while he was vice president. Where were his charges?
Those are all situations where shooting is normal. Accidentally blowing someone away on a pier when you aren't even allowed to have a firearm is pretty different from accidentally blasting someone in the woods when you're trying to legally blast deer.
Im assuming the jury tried to stick it to Trump here but just did him one of the best favours he could ask for lol.
Liberals should have tried to queitly send him to prison not bring as much attention as possible to a like 5 times deported convict shooting aimlessly into a crowd.
Gotta love Americans. An illegal immigrant kills someone so we should talk about sanctuary cities. Shootings every other month and just the usual dog and pony show with nothing to show for it.
Yeah, there are never mass shootings in Belgium, France, Norway...
I can see how this would make a lot of sense to you if you don't actually pay attention to the rest of the world. It's okay. There's no reason why you have to follow world news. You're just not supposed to open your mouth about it if you don't.
1 Belgium per capita has produced way more mass shooters recently than the USA.
2 You chose 1995 as your cut-off. Very clever. That way you can count the 1990s-2000s that were peaceful in France and ignore the rampant terrorism of the 1960s-1980s. Either that or you're a millenial who believes the world began in 1995.
3 You fucking downvoted someone on r/drama. You need seriously reevaluate your life choices if you find yourself doing that.
1) Give me a nonbiased source that says exactly this. Even if this were the case , which it most likely is not, I guarantee you will say something more recent than the year 1995, you hypocrite.
2) We are talking about the phenomenon of mass shootings in America compared with the rest of the world moron. This phenomenon became rampant in the late eighties, early nineties.
1) I'm not a hypocrite. I'm not the one who threw out some arbitrary date as the cutoff for when we stop looking at history. You pick 1995. I pick 2015. And my "nonbiased source" is that Belgium has 1/30 the USA's population and has had a hell of a lot of people massacred in that time.
2) So you're admitting to me that this is all about your perception of what events you get to categorize in a certain way, not reality. Thanks for making my own argument for me.
Did you just... use a heteronormative slur against me? Shocking. And I thought we were having such a polite dialogue.
France didnt even have many before 1995 either
France had a massive terrorist campaign by the OAS in the 1960s including thousands of murders and bombings. I can't recall off the top of my head how many coups and coup attempts there were during that time. In the 1970s-1980s there were numerous assassinations and massacres by Action Directe and Palestinians working for various Arab countries.
Once again, I don't expect an uneducated millenial to know these things, I just expect that if you feel a need to lecture people on topics you know nothing about, first stuff a sock far enough down your throat that it keeps you safe.
You are truly blowing my mind with how retarded you are.
You think millennial is an insult when you are some middle aged faggot making arguments with people on a subreddit dedicated to bussy and mayocide jokes. Congratulations on delaying your suicide till your midlife crisis, but now is the time to act.
Does your heart bleed for Muslims? Check out this one. What kind of sick fuck are you that you can just laugh off the slaughter of hundreds of innocent people because you think it'll score a point against America. Oh wait, you're the same kind of people Camus was always bitching about. BTW Camus was this guy who... never mind, he wasn't post-modern so you wouldn't have heard of him.
The Kingsmill massacre took place on 5 January 1976 near the village of Kingsmill in south County Armagh, Northern Ireland. Gunmen stopped a minibus carrying eleven Protestant workmen, lined them up alongside it and shot them. Only one victim survived, despite having been shot 18 times. A group calling itself the South Armagh Republican Action Force claimed responsibility.
Srebrenica massacre
The Srebrenica massacre, also known as the Srebrenica genocide (Bosnian: Masakr u Srebrenici; Genocid u Srebrenici), was the July 1995 genocide of more than 8,000 Muslim Bosniaks, mainly men and boys, in and around the town of Srebrenica during the Bosnian War.
The killings were perpetrated by units of the Bosnian Serb Army of Republika Srpska (VRS) under the command of Ratko Mladić. The Scorpions, a paramilitary unit from Serbia, who had been part of the Serbian Interior Ministry until 1991, also participated in the massacre. In April 1993 the United Nations (UN) had declared the besieged enclave of Srebrenica—in the Drina Valley of northeastern Bosnia—a "safe area" under UN protection.
Smh at your post history. I get it. You're not French, you're from that island of the coast of France that has no culture of its own, so you try to imitate the culture of the continent or America. Good luck with that and God bless (if your state church allows Him to).
Sorry what? The United Kingdom imitates the culture of the US? We have no culture of our own? I work in a building that older than your country you snowflake.
You work in a building built out of the sweat and blood of Indians? I'm so envious. In our country, we worked hard for what we have. Some of us didn't get it through robbing brown people or laundering money for their dictators.
(Retard claiming moral equivalence between America's sordid past and Britain's exploitation of India that led to millions of deaths in 3... 2... 1...)
I'm sorry, but please all enlighten about how America is so much more cultured than the UK. A lot of your cities are literally named after places in the UK, we have history going back nearly 2000 years and we have a monarch.
While I hate doing this UK v America argument since both have their pros and cons. Only an idiot would say that the UK copies everything from the US and Europe. While I do agree that we do take a lot of stuff from other countries (mostly through colonialism), a ton of countries do the exact same and America is no different.
If you actually came to the UK instead of making biased judgments based on some patriotism to your own country then you would realise there's actually a significant difference between the UK and other countries.
Devils advocate- You have history, but American culture is exported worldwide. What UK trends have they imparted on the world since any of us have been alive?
That's very true. British culture is very self contained, only bringing various things in and making them a part of the culture.
I guess it comes down to the consumerist nature of the US's culture. Thanksgiving and 4th July are both American holidays but are not seen anywhere else. But a holiday promoted by businesses (Black Friday, Christmas and Valentine's Day) spread far due to globalisation.
American culture spreads because of this. McDonald's, Starbucks and coca-cola are all examples of this, a business that is born in America (making consumers identify as part of American culture) that spreads to other countries therefore spreading that culture.
The UK simply doesn't have those businesses of the same scale. We had Cadbury but they were bought by Kraft. We have a load of different grocer businesses like Tescos but they seem to lack the capability of spreading as well as your businesses.
Britian's lack of exported culture is probably due to this. And partly due to Colonialism.
Britain colonial days usually went like this:
Arrive at new place
Subjugate the people
Take all the cool shit
Leave/get kicked out
This isn't always the case however, I Can think of two things that Britain has imparted on the world: One of them is Cricket, which in India and Austrailia is a big hit. The British monarchy is another one, which has 16 commonwealth countries (all of them being previous colonies) that recognise it.
However this only applies to places which Britian has ruled. It isn't truly worldwide, at which the US outclasses many other countries.
While www was invented by Tim berners lee he did intend it to be a gift to the world. British invention yes, but not really the spreading of culture. Similar to how the british invented the tank but every country uses it now and now we are more inclined to think it as american or another country that is highly militarised.
We can celebrate it as what we brits can do, but when I think of websites or the internet as a whole I don't immediately think 'United kindom'.
That part was a joke. But I can see how you would take it seriously when I put it at the end of a chain where I mention the absolutely true fact that you euros love shooting each other. My bad.
I agree that illegals who commit crimes should be deported, but that shouldn't mean all sanctuary cities should just up and let ICE go around Gestapo style.
It's a victim-less crime. The concept of sanctuary cities exists because there are people with empathy who realize the vast majority of immigrants want to improve their condition. And because it's pretty convenient to have workers with fewer privileges.
That's the only thing I think is bad about illegal immigrants; the fact that they often get taken advantage of.
Being an immigrant doesn't make you a rapist or a murderer. These things can happen t anyone and by anyone. In fact, immigrants are less likely to commit crimes.
And you're second comment just shows how out of touch you are. Immigrating legally is an extremely long process. Some of the people leaving their countries don't have that kind of time. It's the governments fault for making the process so long.
Had a buddy have a green card came to America got married had a great job and then found out his card expired. He was now an illegal immigrant. Spent three years and $4000 dollars trying to become Legal. Finally ran into a lawyer who spoke enough Spanish to help him and he finally got accepted.
Guy serves this country in the US Army and exemplifies more American values than most Americans. Illegal Aliens aren't the problem the system is the problem.
All of your responses really make me think you have never met an immigrant and only believe what you see from Fox news or something.
But you are right in that a country should decide who goes in or out. But I maintain that many have no choice but to go illegally and to specific countries. Central American migrants usually don't wait because their lives might be in immediate risk and they don't want to stay in Mexico because the lack of economic opportunities and presence of gangs that exploit or harm them.
Immigration policy should be based on empathy and the host countries ability to house them. There is no reason why the US can't have these migrants.
im australian and everyone here is an immigrant, but we detain all illegals on an island off shore
But I maintain that many have no choice but to go illegally and to specific countries.
i disagree
where i live people are ferried by human traffickers that promise them a new life, making thousands of dollars at a time
the people buying passage are not poor or they couldnt afford it, and the boats pass by tens of other viable refugee destinations on their way to australia
we shoot the boats until they sink and imprison everyone on them
ideally america would have a similar system
Central American migrants usually don't wait because their lives might be in immediate risk and they don't want to stay in Mexico because the lack of economic opportunities and presence of gangs that exploit or harm them.
just because your country is shit it doesnt mean you can just go to someone elses without following the rules
nobody cares about a sob story
good countries are only that way because they dont just let every random person in
like for instance did you know you wouldnt be allowed to move to where i live and i wouldnt be allowed to move to where you live?
There is no reason why the US can't have these migrants.
did you also know the economy is affected when more people are in a place but dont pay tax or contribute
On the brightside, maybe more mayos in this city will get fed up and move away now that they have to worry about jose "accidentally" poppin a cap in their white ass and escaping justice.
The housing prices really are that ridiculous around here.
I dont get this, in rape cases even if it was involuntary and the acusser had no idea there wasnt consent they still say that a reasonable person should have seen there was no consent and convict based on that.
So why the fuck are they letting this guy go? cant they say that only a fucking retard would shot a gun in the middle of a public place in the first place?
He said he didn't know it was a gun when he grabbed it and that when it shot, the bullet ricocheted off concrete. The prosecution's theory of the case clearly did not explain the ricochet very well and their case fell apart.
+1 - mfw an American is basically calling the UK uncultured I'm sorry, but please all enlighten about how America is so much more cultured than the UK. A lot of your cities are literally named after places in the UK, we have history going back nearly 200...
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1 newcomer_ts 2017-12-01
Well…. not guilty then!
lol
Oh, America you never disappoint to fail to every single principle you stand for…
1 trjb 2017-12-01
Right? With all the guns you'd think we'd be better shots.
1 saintisbabyye 2017-12-01
wasn't american, didnt have the gene
1 polddit 2017-12-01
1 trjb 2017-12-01
They aren't sending their best.
1 constantinople_2053 2017-12-01
well, he got away with murder, I'd say that's pretty good.
1 E-rockComment 2017-12-01
Clearly the concrete is culpable.
1 Spectre_06 2017-12-01
It had the actus reus of causing the ricochet that killed it.
1 TheAltRightIsAlright 2017-12-01
Mans rea* of knowing being white ain't right. That concrete dindu nuffin
1 ason 2017-12-01
He did nothing! The pavement was her enemy!
1 Couldnt_think_of_a 2017-12-01
He originally claimed to be trying to shoot a seal then changed his defence to it accidentally going off. I can't believe the jury let him off after that...
Well I can just not because of any law related reasons.
1 Chicup 2017-12-01
Left coast
1 TheAltRightIsAlright 2017-12-01
Bereft Coast
1 BigLordShiggot 2017-12-01
Sanctuary. City.
1 smokes_degrass 2017-12-01
two words: San Francisco
1 nybbas 2017-12-01
Didn't it also "accidentally" fire 3 fucking times?
1 lickedTators 2017-12-01
No, it didn't.
1 HasLBGWPosts 2017-12-01
You know the bullet ricocheted off the concrete before it hit the girl right
1 Death_Trolley 2017-12-01
He used the mayocide defense
1 newprofile15 2017-12-01
This is literally going to give Trump a 5% approval bump overnight. God I hate San Francisco.
1 BigLordShiggot 2017-12-01
but...
1 seshfan 2017-12-01
So he'll be up to what, 40% now?
1 TheAltRightIsAlright 2017-12-01
Historically it takes 43% popular approval to win reelection, but please keep being smug since it's sure to help him lose in 2920
1 seshfan 2017-12-01
i know you're optimistic but let's not go crazy here.
1 TheAltRightIsAlright 2017-12-01
Shit. You got me.
He probably won't be the God Emperor til then.
Well played.
1 Stuntman119 2017-12-01
Lecture me on the Jews, but unironically.
1 TheAltRightIsAlright 2017-12-01
Since you asked so nicely I'll seriouspost just for you and give you a quick rundown on the (formerly) stateless international clique:
96% of Black Americans voted for Obama over McCain and Romney even though there wasn't some Grand Conspiracy among Black Intelligentsia to make that happen
All people operate more or less the same way, based on their reptilian, tribal interests (I don't mean lizard people, I mean based on the deeper, less evolved part of their brains) Like Catholics voting for JFK
Jews are smart and creative af, so they are extremely overrepresented in industries that require smarts and creativity (art, media, comedy, academia, etc)
These industries by unfortunate coincidence are the ones that shape culture, so when salty no-talent upjumped Austrian corporals wanna be artists look around for someone to blame for natural economic downturns Jews are the "obvious" ones to blame
The story of the rise of Nazism has been repeated over and over in history because Jews are excellent at both assimilating and retaining their unique cultural identity (again they're smart af) so for example during the Black Plague since Jews didn't drink shitwater and routinely washed their hands, they didn't die quite as often as gentiles and got blamed for it
Social Justice is taught to them from before they can walk because they've developed an excellent sense for Justice after all the thousands of years of persecution as the Outgroup
Unfortunately they take it too far like anyone else with GoodIntentions™ and it leads to things like the untenability of contemporary Feminism: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Feminists_by_ethnicity
In summation since they have Israel now they should all just go there and stop fucking around with our cultures
Thanks for asking and thanks for reading, views expressed are my own yada yada
1 Stuntman119 2017-12-01
So basically Jews are the true races and all other races are worthless in comparison.
At last I understand mayocide.
1 Mayo_Macerator 2017-12-01
FOR THE LOVE OF BUSSY, GET THIS KIND HUMAN SOME 🍞 BREAD!
THAT'S 83 MAYOS SPLATTERED ON SANDWICHES, 83 STEPS CLOSER TO COMPLETE MAYOCIDE!
At this rate, the white race will be finished in no time! DO YOUR PART, FOLKS!
1 Stuntman119 2017-12-01
The mayocide will start with whoever gave you life. At last we shall have revenge.
1 Mayo_Macerator 2017-12-01
FOR THE LOVE OF BUSSY, GET THIS KIND HUMAN SOME 🍞 BREAD!
THAT'S 84 MAYOS SPLATTERED ON SANDWICHES, 84 STEPS CLOSER TO COMPLETE MAYOCIDE!
At this rate, the white race will be finished in no time! DO YOUR PART, FOLKS!
1 Stuntman119 2017-12-01
ok stop
1 TheAltRightIsAlright 2017-12-01
The "Aryan Master Race" nonsense was never really a thing and has been wildly over-exaggerated by postwar propagandists, but still, yeah, that's not a bad comparison to think about the Jews. They are, after all, God's chosen people.
1 vodkaandponies 2017-12-01
And he's consistently below that, and that's WITH a good economy. Imagine what it falls to once we enter recession.
1 TheAltRightIsAlright 2017-12-01
That's actually a good point, he'll only get reelected if the economy holds out til late 2019. If the downturn happens after the election...then the real fun begins
1 nybbas 2017-12-01
Yeah but the rise of all these nazi assholes is because of 4chan memes and gamergate... nothing the left is doing. nope not at all.
1 RecallRethuglicans 2017-12-01
He said he was so high he didn’t know it was a gun. He just found it under the chair.
Entirely an honest mistake. It could have happened to anyone.
1 incineratechicken 2017-12-01
That @BeckiiAalto account is something to behold.]
The bio:
1 Thulean-Dragon 2017-12-01
Good lord, what a loathesome cunt.
1 SethRichOrDieTryin 2017-12-01
Oh wow no "they, them, their"
1 TheFallenHero 2017-12-01
Ew
1 WarSanchez 2017-12-01
Beaners... SMH...
1 respaaaaaj 2017-12-01
Trump is going to go full fucking retard on twitter.
1 pantsdownnow 2017-12-01
How the fuck a guy seven times felon and deported 5 times can still kill an american citizen and your kind its ok with that?????
1 respaaaaaj 2017-12-01
Because he's not guilty? It was a freak accident that a jury decided did not cause any criminal liability.
1 wazzupnerds 2017-12-01
"Freak Accident"
Jesus Christ pull your head out of you ass
1 respaaaaaj 2017-12-01
He found a gun wrapped in shit and didn't realize it was a gun until after it had fired. It bounced off shit and then hit her. If Trump hadn't sperged the fuck out he never would have been charged.
1 wazzupnerds 2017-12-01
You have to have a IQ of 5 to not realize what a gun is. Please be a goddamn troll
1 respaaaaaj 2017-12-01
Welcome to how everyone else felt after the George Zimmerman trial snowflake.
1 wazzupnerds 2017-12-01
Lmao, I thought Zimmerman deserved the axe also. Both should share a cell.
1 newprofile15 2017-12-01
You're just proving that justice is a partisan game to you and that you have no real principles. Pathetic.
1 polddit 2017-12-01
>thinking the zim zam should have been flim flammed
that's rich m8 keep telling jokes
1 Couldnt_think_of_a 2017-12-01
Why did he say he deliberately tried to shoot a seal before changing his story? I mean he knew it was a gun originally.
1 respaaaaaj 2017-12-01
Because he panicked? For that matter not like cops have never forced a confession before.
1 Couldnt_think_of_a 2017-12-01
In San Francisco?
1 respaaaaaj 2017-12-01
http://beta.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-sfpd-racist-text-messages-20160426-story.html
1 Couldnt_think_of_a 2017-12-01
The stuff there only counts as racist in San Francisco, also holding an opinion has nothing to do with forcing a confession. To which the defending nor his lawyer has claimed happened, this is entirely a fiction in your sick mind.
1 respaaaaaj 2017-12-01
Well yeah just the physical evidence proved he was not guilty.
1 Couldnt_think_of_a 2017-12-01
So there was no forced confession?
1 respaaaaaj 2017-12-01
Yeah just a politically motivated smear job.
1 Couldnt_think_of_a 2017-12-01
Well then he lied about the gun going off accidentally then.
1 respaaaaaj 2017-12-01
Why yes, he panicked and said something stupid because.
1 Redactor0 2017-12-01
...in San Fransisco. Because that's totally how politics works there.
1 Redactor0 2017-12-01
I support mayocide and all, but it's pretty fucking cold blooded to keep making up excuses for why it was okay for him to murder that woman.
1 respaaaaaj 2017-12-01
Not Guilty
1 captainpriapism 2017-12-01
its cool someone will probably do a mob justice on him
1 IvankaTrumpIsMyWaifu 2017-12-01
fingers crossed
1 Mayo_Macerator 2017-12-01
FOR THE LOVE OF BUSSY, GET THIS KIND HUMAN SOME 🍞 BREAD!
THAT'S 76 MAYOS SPLATTERED ON SANDWICHES, 76 STEPS CLOSER TO COMPLETE MAYOCIDE!
At this rate, the white race will be finished in no time! DO YOUR PART, FOLKS!
1 Redactor0 2017-12-01
Umm... maybe be a little quieter about it tonight, okay? good bot
1 BigLordShiggot 2017-12-01
lol
1 newprofile15 2017-12-01
Yea, he "accidentally" fired a gun that "accidentally" fired a killing shot into this woman. How stupid do you have to be to actually believe this?
1 tcfb 2017-12-01
how virtuous*. leave the homeless illegal immigrants who just happen to be felons alone you racist fuck. he did more for america than anyone in this thread.
1 Redactor0 2017-12-01
He is a job creator. Think of all the man-hours worked by cops, psychiatrists, lawyers, the guys at the mortuary who had to deal with her corpse. This just proves that illegal immigration is good for our economy.
1 lickedTators 2017-12-01
The bullet "accidentally" richoted off the pavement into the woman. If you don't think the pavement was in on this murder then you're fucking stupid. Pavement should be locked up.
1 tathrowaway666 2017-12-01
I bet you also believe that he threw it into the harbor because he got scared by the loud noise, not to try to hide evidence of him committing a crime.
1 respaaaaaj 2017-12-01
No I think he freaked out because he realized he was holding a gun that went off, which the jury agreed with hence the conviction for possessing a gun as a felon.
1 BigLordShiggot 2017-12-01
lol
1 newprofile15 2017-12-01
If you think that this convicted felon just accidentally shot his gun and murdered this woman you are retarded.
1 TheGreatWolfRuss 2017-12-01
The killing blow came from a ricochet you fucking moron
1 tcfb 2017-12-01
stolen handgun in the hands of a homeless illegal felon "accidentally" goes off three times into a crowd? how much rick and morty do you watch?
1 respaaaaaj 2017-12-01
Why yes I agree with the decision the court reached that the evidence says that he found the gun, not stole it, accidentally discharged it and a bullet bounced off the pavement and killed some mayo. Apparently believing the courts makes me unreasonable now.
1 polddit 2017-12-01
"The courts"
1 Redactor0 2017-12-01
Do they actually have courtrooms like that in California? We just have shitty office space with fluorescent lighting that can't even keep you from falling asleep.
1 polddit 2017-12-01
I'd rather have shitty office space with fluorescent lighting that can't even keep you from falling asleep than a bunch of feminists and an Illegal American.
1 giroth 2017-12-01
Just a friendly heads up, I think you meant "undocumented immigrant"
No American can be illegal
1 maledictus_homo_sum 2017-12-01
You can tell they are feminists because they are women and you can tell that they are "illegal americans" because they are not pale white.
1 princessCuck 2017-12-01
The civil ones look like that, yeah. The criminal ones are a little depressing, but they still have a wood aesthetic.
1 jubbergun 2017-12-01
Imagine having to put your fate in the hands of 12 people who are so stupid they couldn't figure out how to get out of jury duty.
1 Talran 2017-12-01
1 giroth 2017-12-01
It's a civic responsibility, not your mom's stripper pole dance recital
1 jubbergun 2017-12-01
I'll have you know she was just trying to pay her way through college, thank you very much.
1 IvankaTrumpIsMyWaifu 2017-12-01
Get fucked
BUILD
THE
WALL
1 Talran 2017-12-01
Please do, I want to see how long all the ranches take to sort out the eminent domain and our trebuchet needs a target.
1 TUMS_FESTIVAL 2017-12-01
Dude, fuck off back to /r/kotakuinaction and circlejerk with the rest of those impotent nerds.
It's about ethics in journalism AMIRITE?
1 SWIMsfriend 2017-12-01
Rather telling he can't talk about it there without the mods getting up his ass.
1 captainpriapism 2017-12-01
this is the sort of poster you guys are attracting now, well done
1 IvankaTrumpIsMyWaifu 2017-12-01
Thankfully these retards like /u/TUMS_FESTIVAL aren't lolcows so we can downvote the living fuck out of them
1 pepperouchau 2017-12-01
How the fuck a guy seven times posts the same dumb shit?????
1 Talran 2017-12-01
How the fuck a guy seven times felon and deported 5 times can still kill an american citizen and your kind its ok with that??????
1 newprofile15 2017-12-01
Anyone who thinks this guy was not guilty is already full retard.
1 respaaaaaj 2017-12-01
TIL the American legal system is retarded.
1 newprofile15 2017-12-01
"Durr justice system is bad guys therefore I don't need to care about any individual outcome"
1 respaaaaaj 2017-12-01
No actually I think the justice system is just fine in this regard. Its a tragedy some mayo skank got wasted, but that doesn't make him guilty.
1 newprofile15 2017-12-01
Yeah, I already saw how you think a guy with multiple felony convictions for violent crimes accidentally picked up a gun and accidentally murdered a girl, I flamed you incorrectly here, meant to flame you for being a "not guilty" retard rather than a "justice system is arbitrary" moron.
1 respaaaaaj 2017-12-01
why yes he wasted her by bouncing a fucking bullet off the pavement, because hes literally john wick.
1 blueyeswhitejordans 2017-12-01
just fucking around with a gun oops haha my bad
1 uniqueguy263 2017-12-01
This but actually unironically. That's pretty much what probably happened
1 uniqueguy263 2017-12-01
Making drugs and illegally re-entering the country are not violent crimes
1 brianpv 2017-12-01
Which violent crimes, exactly?
1 newprofile15 2017-12-01
-being an illegal
-being homeless
-shooting white women
1 ConsoleWarCriminal 2017-12-01
TIL nobody killed Emitt Till
1 respaaaaaj 2017-12-01
how mad are you that the brown guy was innocent that you have to go back to jim crow era shit.
1 ConsoleWarCriminal 2017-12-01
Hey I like it when some brown guys are innocent, like the zim-zam.
1 Redactor0 2017-12-01
So you're totally okay with all the white cops accused of killing black people who've been let off? There's not a single case you would question?
1 nybbas 2017-12-01
Totally different when you switch the races bro. That's like comparing apples to backflips.
1 maledictus_homo_sum 2017-12-01
More like backflips to blackflips.
1 moush 2017-12-01
Which ones did it to completely innocent fellas?
1 IvankaTrumpIsMyWaifu 2017-12-01
Every didndu is always heading between sunday school and getting their PhD
1 krutopatkin 2017-12-01
Common law is pretty shit ngl
1 Thulean-Dragon 2017-12-01
For once I don't blame him.
1 saintisbabyye 2017-12-01
ah, the intersection of Roy Moore is innocent until proven guilty and fuck the jury crowds are now gonna intersect.
twitter will be lit
1 cindiloo 2017-12-01
Yeah Fox News just exploded!!!!
1 pantsdownnow 2017-12-01
How the fuck a guy seven times felon and deported 5 times can still kill an american citizen and your kind its ok with that?????
1 cindiloo 2017-12-01
I'm not ok at all with it, but apparently 12 folks in San Francisco are. But they didn't have all of his background information....ughhhhh!!!!!
1 wazzupnerds 2017-12-01
What the actual goddamn fuck. This was suppose to be an easy open and shut case. How the fuck was it a goddamn accident? I am mind blown right now.
1 saintisbabyye 2017-12-01
Looks like they couldn't prove intent but I'm not sure how they didn't get involuntary manslaughter. Maybe they didn't bother arguing because they thought they could get him on the first/second degree charges?
1 wazzupnerds 2017-12-01
Whatever it is, it's a failure of justice
1 pantsdownnow 2017-12-01
How the fuck a guy deported 5 times can still kill an american citizen and people are ok with that??
1 saintisbabyye 2017-12-01
Because they couldn't prove first/second degree murder and involuntary manslaughter.
Immigration status/history were also irrelevant to the case, so it wasn't permitted as evidence.
1 ConsoleWarCriminal 2017-12-01
Oh please, they could prove it to a jury outside of California.
1 saintisbabyye 2017-12-01
That is one retarded ass argument you have there
1 ConsoleWarCriminal 2017-12-01
The defense given by the illegal was literally confessing to involuntary manslaughter.
1 saintisbabyye 2017-12-01
Clearly, the prosecution couldn't prove the criminal negligence part of involuntary manslaughter
1 ConsoleWarCriminal 2017-12-01
ah yes, the 'tism defense
1 saintisbabyye 2017-12-01
I mean, there was a lot of shit going on in this case so you should read about it https://www.redstate.com/sarah-rumpf/2017/11/30/lied-kate-steinle-case/
1 ConsoleWarCriminal 2017-12-01
unironically linking to redstate.com in the current year
What are you doing, man.
1 saintisbabyye 2017-12-01
ok... doesn't change the fact that the prosecutors couldnt convince the jury it wasn't an accident.
The content of the article was fine btw thanks
1 ConsoleWarCriminal 2017-12-01
Well yeah, and nobody is guilty of lynching Emmitt Till, technically.
1 saintisbabyye 2017-12-01
read the constitution it might help you understand literally anything
1 ConsoleWarCriminal 2017-12-01
>reading some ancient racist piece of paper written by dead mayos
1 Namenamenamenamena 2017-12-01
4.4 pound trigger pull is among the lightest on the market?
1 moush 2017-12-01
Why do you have a question mark there?
1 Namenamenamenamena 2017-12-01
Why do you have a question mark there?
1 moush 2017-12-01
Because 4.4 lbs is very light.
1 Namenamenamenamena 2017-12-01
The nypd uses a notoriously heavy trigger pull, citing them makes you look uniformed or dishonest. Also it's on the market, not used by other police forces.
1 moush 2017-12-01
So you are legitimately arguing that 4.4 is not a light trigger pull?
1 Namenamenamenamena 2017-12-01
Is it among the lightest on the market? That's the question.
1 boomboomlaser 2017-12-01
This is actually one of the better summaries that I’ve read.
1 StrawRedditor 2017-12-01
I mean, I think firing a gun in a public place should qualify alone.
1 lickedTators 2017-12-01
The defense successfully argued it was an accidental discharge.
1 dawnbandit 2017-12-01
You mean negligent discharge?
1 lickedTators 2017-12-01
I probably did.
1 dawnbandit 2017-12-01
Out of 100 "accidental discharges" probably 99 of them are negligent and 1 of them is a true accident.
1 Douggem 2017-12-01
Wasn't it demonstrated that he lied about this? After changing his story from "I was shooting at sea lions" to "I found a gun wrapped in a t-shirt and it went off on its own 3 times", wasn't it determined that only one round had been fired from the weapon?
1 lickedTators 2017-12-01
I trust the forensics more than the homeless guy panicking about being more fucked than he already is. So if forensics say one shot was fired, then that's probably what happened.
Since the one shot hit the pavement first there's reasonable doubt that the guy wasn't trying to murder someone. Even if the guys a big ol felony liar.
1 StrawRedditor 2017-12-01
Which should still be a crime should it not?
1 lickedTators 2017-12-01
Accidentally alone, not a crime. There was a guy somewhere who shot himself and his wife in church on accident. He shouldn't be in jail for that.
This illegal alien was convicted of possessing a firearm though, a felony crime, and he's going to be in jail for that.
1 PURINBOYS2002 2017-12-01
Then they should have charged him with that instead of murder? Blame the prosecution here instead of grandstanding.
1 ConsoleWarCriminal 2017-12-01
They did, he was acquitted of manslaughter.
1 6chan6 2017-12-01
Here is the statute in California for manslaughter:
Californina criminal code, Title 8, Chapter 1, statute 192
The defense was something to the effect of "Garcia finds a bundle of cloth among his belongings, he picks it up, and the gun discharges without Garcia even knowing that there was a gun in there."
Without knowing all the facts, it's pretty clear that the statute is supposed to encompass all the circumstances that would be considered "wrong" or unreasonable behavior.
Since he was a felon, his possession of the handgun would be enough to satisfy this statute. His firing the handgun at a public pier, where people are, is certainly an act which "might produce death... without due caution and circumspection."
It's a pretty low bar. This law is designed to convict hunters who accidentally shoot people.
If the defendant knew it was a gun, he's guilty.
The only factually innocent conclusion that the jury could draw was that they believed his defense, and the defendant didn't know there was a gun, period. It's not clear whether the prosecution fucked it up. But his story pushes the bounds of "reasonable doubt". Most people simply don't believe that his story, which just so happens to be completely exculpatory, was what actually happened. It's as improbable as it is convenient.
1 PURINBOYS2002 2017-12-01
Agree with all of this, and assuming the jurors didn't have some info I don't have right now, based on the statute described, I'd vote on him being guilty. That being said, either this guy had the best defense lawyers in the world, or the prosecution fucked up. Considering they also tried for murder charges, I'm inclined to believe they fucked up. Hence, blame the prosecution, not the jurors or the state.
1 r_juicyasians 2017-12-01
Californian here. He's fucking right. This retarded state needs to dump la and the bay area into the ocean and start over.
1 TherapyFortheRapy 2017-12-01
Not really. They acquitted him as a 'fuck you' to Donald Trump. That wouldn't have happened anywhere outside of San Francisco.
1 pvijay187 2017-12-01
You gotta source on that, or just a retarded hunch?
1 ConsoleWarCriminal 2017-12-01
Did Roy Bryant and John William Milam lynch Emitt Till?
1 pvijay187 2017-12-01
Don't give a shit either way.
1 TUMS_FESTIVAL 2017-12-01
Because we have laws and courts and a constitution.
1 TheAltRightIsAlright 2017-12-01
And we have illiterates on juries from California who don't care about any of that.
1 a_normal_human 2017-12-01
W H I T E P R I V I L E G E
1 OnlyRacistOnReddit 2017-12-01
The defense played up how racist everyone is and how by deporting him all those times it prevented him from putting down roots which caused his mental state to become unstable.
Basically they gave the privileged jurors exactly what they wanted to hear.
1 HasLBGWPosts 2017-12-01
Do you have a source for that?
1 ConsoleWarCriminal 2017-12-01
His peers didn't like that gringo bitch that much anyway, ese
1 TheAltRightIsAlright 2017-12-01
I'll write my ese in Monterey if you write yours in Guadalajara
1 captainpriapism 2017-12-01
look how virtuous the people that let him go are though! take that trump, we like sanctuary cities because you hate them!
1 Redactor0 2017-12-01
This is true. So you're going to have a moment of self-awareness and stop hating things just because SJWs like them, right?
1 captainpriapism 2017-12-01
i only noticed sjws in the first place because they kept trying to insert things i already hated into stuff i already liked
probably wouldnt have ever cared otherwise, but im glad i can recognise it now because it lets me feel smarter than everyone who cant
1 princessCuck 2017-12-01
retard
1 captainpriapism 2017-12-01
fucking lol this sub sometimes
1 vodkaandponies 2017-12-01
Translation: "Change is scary!"
1 captainpriapism 2017-12-01
lol its not scary i just dont like shitty people with bad ideas trying to encroach into something i like just because they have no creativity of their own
1 vodkaandponies 2017-12-01
Elaborate.
1 tathrowaway666 2017-12-01
Hanzo/McRee gay shit on overwatch when there's literally no reason to believe that would be the case outside of them wanting it to be.
1 vodkaandponies 2017-12-01
you're triggered by shippers?
1 captainpriapism 2017-12-01
OMG THE ESKIMO WOMAN IN OVERWATCH WAS PORTRAYED AS NOT FAT HOW DARE YOU
1 tathrowaway666 2017-12-01
No, it's just annoying to have people inject shit that's completely unrelated and not backed by anything outside of their imagination, then claiming it's a fact.
1 vodkaandponies 2017-12-01
I don't know how to tell you this, but people in life have different opinions and interpretations of the same stuff.
Good god what a sheltered life you must live if that's offensive to you.
1 tathrowaway666 2017-12-01
It's not offensive, it's annoying. Also, there's no reason to think some of these things, it'd be like if I said Hillary was actually a lizard demon. It's annoying, even if it's just a stupid interpretation of things with no basis in reality.
1 captainpriapism 2017-12-01
"cultural critique" that amounts to "waaah why dont all the characters look like me and have my genitals and skin colour"
accusing people of being prejudiced unless they submit to all demands, insinuating that employment in an industry is somehow deserved because they arent represented properly
and basically a lot of post modern pseudo intellectual bullshit in place of quality control
1 vodkaandponies 2017-12-01
Translation:
"Waaagh! people on the internet have different opinions on something than me! Waagh!"
1 starship_litterbox 2017-12-01
Yeah, like putting politics into science fiction and fantasy for the first time ever, and having the audacity to criticize video games. They. Came. For. The. Gamers.
Gamers.
1 captainpriapism 2017-12-01
nobody needs a "feminist perspective" of anything ever and i dont need to be told that a hypothetical situation needs more black people or its racist
they arent valid metrics to judge something on
1 geraldo42 2017-12-01
Well for one, it was a ricochet. Didn't it strike the pavement and hit someone 200 feet aware or something like that? There's no fucking way he shot her on purpose. He would have had to be some kind of genius to pull it off. That throws murder out the door. The only other charge was involuntary manslaughter and I think if you read this comment you get a pretty good idea of why they didn't find him guilty on that. Whether the gun magically misfired (unlikely) or he pulled the trigger (either by accident or because he's an idiot and didn't think it was loaded) killing that woman was clearly an accident. I think people are letting political bullshit cloud their view and have forgotten that people accidentally shoot each other ALL THE TIME. Hunting accidents happen every day. People kill their sons, fathers and friends by accident and they almost never get prison time for it. Hell, Dick Cheney shot a man while he was vice president. Where were his charges?
1 CirqueDuFuder 2017-12-01
Dick Cheney was a cover up.
1 AVirtualDuck 2017-12-01
Isn't that what involuntary manslaughter is? Causing the death of another without intending to? You can be convicted of it if someone walks in front of your car, for instance.
1 uniqueguy263 2017-12-01
Requires criminal negligence
1 AVirtualDuck 2017-12-01
And shooting or standing on a loaded weapon in public wouldn't qualify?
1 uniqueguy263 2017-12-01
Apparently it accidentally went off or something. Tbh I think he shoulda been convicted of manslaughter but there is an argument against that
1 telandrias 2017-12-01
Californians actually believe this apparently.
1 nybbas 2017-12-01
No, they absolutely fucking believe it. We are a special bunch.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJmFEv6BHM0
1 telandrias 2017-12-01
Shoots 30 magazines a second? I'm in on that!
1 Douggem 2017-12-01
Unless he's a bad shot. Shoot directly at her, don't know how bullets work, round drops and ricochets back up into her. I'm more inclined to think he just fired into the crowd at the pier and the round ended up where it ended up, not that he shot directly at the pretty white lady.
Those are all situations where shooting is normal. Accidentally blowing someone away on a pier when you aren't even allowed to have a firearm is pretty different from accidentally blasting someone in the woods when you're trying to legally blast deer.
1 AnnoysTheGoys 2017-12-01
Like Fox News actually cares about a dead San Franciscan
1 pantsdownnow 2017-12-01
How the fuck a guy seven times felon and deported 5 times can still kill an american citizen and your kind its ok with that?????
1 AnnoysTheGoys 2017-12-01
She was white. Stop hyperventilating and reposting the same comment every where. Also, what do you mean by your kind?
1 Redactor0 2017-12-01
What do you mean, you people???
1 pvijay187 2017-12-01
Are you like a retarded parrot?
1 444455555666666 2017-12-01
tbh I'd take a mexican murderer over an autistic white kid so yes
1 Assymptotic 2017-12-01
Attractive, missing white woman syndrome.
1 Couldnt_think_of_a 2017-12-01
/r/The_Reason_Trump_Won and will take 2020.
1 Couldnt_think_of_a 2017-12-01
/u/the_reason_trump_won and will take 2020.
1 WhyTrumpWillWin2020 2017-12-01
1 TheAltRightIsAlright 2017-12-01
Good to see ya, stick around, you'll be bussy around here
1 Neronoah 2017-12-01
Trump being elected changed shit though. My hypothesis is that the next president will be Mussolini's corpse.
1 moondoggy101 2017-12-01
Im assuming the jury tried to stick it to Trump here but just did him one of the best favours he could ask for lol.
Liberals should have tried to queitly send him to prison not bring as much attention as possible to a like 5 times deported convict shooting aimlessly into a crowd.
1 Chicup 2017-12-01
So she didn't die in vain but if I were her father I'd probably be in jail right now.
1 62152 2017-12-01
please take your unironic whining back to r/conservative
1 moondoggy101 2017-12-01
please take my dick in your bussy
1 Clopernicus 2017-12-01
The romance in this comment made my heart flutter.
1 TheAltRightIsAlright 2017-12-01
Por favor que regresas tu culo a tu pais de origen
(Please take your ass back to your country of origin)
1 62152 2017-12-01
please take your aspergers back to your basement
1 TheAltRightIsAlright 2017-12-01
Way ahead of you buddy
1 saint2e 2017-12-01
White privilege at its best, amirite?
1 IntellectualEuphoria 2017-12-01
According to liberals, hispanics are classified as white.
1 Ponchorello7 2017-12-01
Gotta love Americans. An illegal immigrant kills someone so we should talk about sanctuary cities. Shootings every other month and just the usual dog and pony show with nothing to show for it.
1 BigLordShiggot 2017-12-01
This is all you had to say, fam.
1 pvijay187 2017-12-01
A homegrown American kills someone so we should talk about.....?
1 Oh_hamburgers_ 2017-12-01
Deporting American citizens? Any culture will have unavoidable issues, but illegals are entirely avoidable.
1 pvijay187 2017-12-01
https://www.theonion.com/no-way-to-prevent-this-says-only-nation-where-this-r-1819576527
1 Redactor0 2017-12-01
Yeah, there are never mass shootings in Belgium, France, Norway...
I can see how this would make a lot of sense to you if you don't actually pay attention to the rest of the world. It's okay. There's no reason why you have to follow world news. You're just not supposed to open your mouth about it if you don't.
1 pvijay187 2017-12-01
Lol there have been 7 massacres in France since 1995, even fewer in Norway and Belgium.
What drugs are you on to think what happens in those countries in on an even remotely similar scale to those countries?
1 Redactor0 2017-12-01
1 Belgium per capita has produced way more mass shooters recently than the USA.
2 You chose 1995 as your cut-off. Very clever. That way you can count the 1990s-2000s that were peaceful in France and ignore the rampant terrorism of the 1960s-1980s. Either that or you're a millenial who believes the world began in 1995.
3 You fucking downvoted someone on r/drama. You need seriously reevaluate your life choices if you find yourself doing that.
1 pvijay187 2017-12-01
1) Give me a nonbiased source that says exactly this. Even if this were the case , which it most likely is not, I guarantee you will say something more recent than the year 1995, you hypocrite.
2) We are talking about the phenomenon of mass shootings in America compared with the rest of the world moron. This phenomenon became rampant in the late eighties, early nineties.
3) Never downvoted you insecure retard.
1 Redactor0 2017-12-01
1) I'm not a hypocrite. I'm not the one who threw out some arbitrary date as the cutoff for when we stop looking at history. You pick 1995. I pick 2015. And my "nonbiased source" is that Belgium has 1/30 the USA's population and has had a hell of a lot of people massacred in that time.
2) So you're admitting to me that this is all about your perception of what events you get to categorize in a certain way, not reality. Thanks for making my own argument for me.
3) I dispute the "retard" part of that.
1 pvijay187 2017-12-01
So let me break down what you said
1) No source
2) No answer
3) No life
Belgium has had 3 massacres since 1950 faggot. Is that early enough of a date for you?https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_massacres_in_Belgium
Not to mention France didnt even have that many before 1995 either.
Please kill yourself before before being the potential victim of a mass shooting, or doing one yourself.
1 Redactor0 2017-12-01
Did you just... use a heteronormative slur against me? Shocking. And I thought we were having such a polite dialogue.
France had a massive terrorist campaign by the OAS in the 1960s including thousands of murders and bombings. I can't recall off the top of my head how many coups and coup attempts there were during that time. In the 1970s-1980s there were numerous assassinations and massacres by Action Directe and Palestinians working for various Arab countries.
Once again, I don't expect an uneducated millenial to know these things, I just expect that if you feel a need to lecture people on topics you know nothing about, first stuff a sock far enough down your throat that it keeps you safe.
1 pvijay187 2017-12-01
If only the information on massacres in France were readily available.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_massacres_in_France
You are truly blowing my mind with how retarded you are.
You think millennial is an insult when you are some middle aged faggot making arguments with people on a subreddit dedicated to bussy and mayocide jokes. Congratulations on delaying your suicide till your midlife crisis, but now is the time to act.
1 Mayo_Macerator 2017-12-01
FOR THE LOVE OF BUSSY, GET THIS KIND HUMAN SOME 🍞 BREAD!
THAT'S 79 MAYOS SPLATTERED ON SANDWICHES, 79 STEPS CLOSER TO COMPLETE MAYOCIDE!
At this rate, the white race will be finished in no time! DO YOUR PART, FOLKS!
1 Redactor0 2017-12-01
Does your heart bleed for Muslims? Check out this one. What kind of sick fuck are you that you can just laugh off the slaughter of hundreds of innocent people because you think it'll score a point against America. Oh wait, you're the same kind of people Camus was always bitching about. BTW Camus was this guy who... never mind, he wasn't post-modern so you wouldn't have heard of him.
1 pvijay187 2017-12-01
OH MY GOD. I am going to explode from the retardation seeping out of your hollow skull.
That massacre is INCLUDED in the list I gave you.
The world's biggest crime is that you cannot kill yourself twice.
1 Redactor0 2017-12-01
That was my point. Here's one that wasn't. Tell me about how civilized Europeans are. Or maybe this one. Does that count as "mass shooting" to you?
1 WikiTextBot 2017-12-01
Kingsmill massacre
The Kingsmill massacre took place on 5 January 1976 near the village of Kingsmill in south County Armagh, Northern Ireland. Gunmen stopped a minibus carrying eleven Protestant workmen, lined them up alongside it and shot them. Only one victim survived, despite having been shot 18 times. A group calling itself the South Armagh Republican Action Force claimed responsibility.
Srebrenica massacre
The Srebrenica massacre, also known as the Srebrenica genocide (Bosnian: Masakr u Srebrenici; Genocid u Srebrenici), was the July 1995 genocide of more than 8,000 Muslim Bosniaks, mainly men and boys, in and around the town of Srebrenica during the Bosnian War.
The killings were perpetrated by units of the Bosnian Serb Army of Republika Srpska (VRS) under the command of Ratko Mladić. The Scorpions, a paramilitary unit from Serbia, who had been part of the Serbian Interior Ministry until 1991, also participated in the massacre. In April 1993 the United Nations (UN) had declared the besieged enclave of Srebrenica—in the Drina Valley of northeastern Bosnia—a "safe area" under UN protection.
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1 pvijay187 2017-12-01
Ok I think we are done here. No human can be this mentally challenged.
None of those are in France you idiot, you know the place you were arguing has a ton of massacres.
Jeez you must have a monopoly on extra chromosomes.
1 BigLordShiggot 2017-12-01
Death to Islam.
1 pvijay187 2017-12-01
You can kill Islam by becoming an hero
1 BigLordShiggot 2017-12-01
72 genders in Paradise!
1 theredlore 2017-12-01
Lil neither of those in France you fucking tosspot
1 Redactor0 2017-12-01
Smh at your post history. I get it. You're not French, you're from that island of the coast of France that has no culture of its own, so you try to imitate the culture of the continent or America. Good luck with that and God bless (if your state church allows Him to).
1 theredlore 2017-12-01
Sorry what? The United Kingdom imitates the culture of the US? We have no culture of our own? I work in a building that older than your country you snowflake.
1 Redactor0 2017-12-01
You work in a building built out of the sweat and blood of Indians? I'm so envious. In our country, we worked hard for what we have. Some of us didn't get it through robbing brown people or laundering money for their dictators.
(Retard claiming moral equivalence between America's sordid past and Britain's exploitation of India that led to millions of deaths in 3... 2... 1...)
1 Nexlon 2017-12-01
The U.S. is literally built off the back of enslaved blacks and natives, you fucking retard.
1 Foremanski 2017-12-01
mfw an American is basically calling the UK uncultured
I'm sorry, but please all enlighten about how America is so much more cultured than the UK. A lot of your cities are literally named after places in the UK, we have history going back nearly 2000 years and we have a monarch.
While I hate doing this UK v America argument since both have their pros and cons. Only an idiot would say that the UK copies everything from the US and Europe. While I do agree that we do take a lot of stuff from other countries (mostly through colonialism), a ton of countries do the exact same and America is no different.
If you actually came to the UK instead of making biased judgments based on some patriotism to your own country then you would realise there's actually a significant difference between the UK and other countries.
1 MillenialsSmell 2017-12-01
Devils advocate- You have history, but American culture is exported worldwide. What UK trends have they imparted on the world since any of us have been alive?
1 Foremanski 2017-12-01
That's very true. British culture is very self contained, only bringing various things in and making them a part of the culture.
I guess it comes down to the consumerist nature of the US's culture. Thanksgiving and 4th July are both American holidays but are not seen anywhere else. But a holiday promoted by businesses (Black Friday, Christmas and Valentine's Day) spread far due to globalisation.
American culture spreads because of this. McDonald's, Starbucks and coca-cola are all examples of this, a business that is born in America (making consumers identify as part of American culture) that spreads to other countries therefore spreading that culture.
The UK simply doesn't have those businesses of the same scale. We had Cadbury but they were bought by Kraft. We have a load of different grocer businesses like Tescos but they seem to lack the capability of spreading as well as your businesses.
Britian's lack of exported culture is probably due to this. And partly due to Colonialism.
Britain colonial days usually went like this:
Arrive at new place
Subjugate the people
Take all the cool shit
Leave/get kicked out
This isn't always the case however, I Can think of two things that Britain has imparted on the world: One of them is Cricket, which in India and Austrailia is a big hit. The British monarchy is another one, which has 16 commonwealth countries (all of them being previous colonies) that recognise it.
However this only applies to places which Britian has ruled. It isn't truly worldwide, at which the US outclasses many other countries.
1 Cavhind 2017-12-01
...he asks, on a www site
1 MillenialsSmell 2017-12-01
Ah yes, the cultural trend of one guy inventing the World Wide Web.
1 Cavhind 2017-12-01
Yes, Britain invented the most important cultural shift of our lifetime.
1 Foremanski 2017-12-01
While www was invented by Tim berners lee he did intend it to be a gift to the world. British invention yes, but not really the spreading of culture. Similar to how the british invented the tank but every country uses it now and now we are more inclined to think it as american or another country that is highly militarised.
We can celebrate it as what we brits can do, but when I think of websites or the internet as a whole I don't immediately think 'United kindom'.
1 Redactor0 2017-12-01
That part was a joke. But I can see how you would take it seriously when I put it at the end of a chain where I mention the absolutely true fact that you euros love shooting each other. My bad.
1 Foremanski 2017-12-01
This sounds like b8
1 nmx179 2017-12-01
If his skull has retardation seeping out of it, then it isn't exactly hollow, is it?
Checkmate.
1 Bamfero 2017-12-01
I really wanna upvote you but you really cannot just be throwing around the word faggot my dude
1 pvijay187 2017-12-01
Its cool, I only mean it if he's straight.
1 Sober_Sloth 2017-12-01
you are a retard don't worry no one else will dispute it
1 BigLordShiggot 2017-12-01
...dealing with our own problems. <--- here, I fixed it for you.
1 Sober_Sloth 2017-12-01
You can tell someone is conservative because talking to them about mass shootings makes them short circuit.
1 LightUmbra 2017-12-01
You can tell someone is European because talking to them about trucks of peace makes them short circuit.
1 Sober_Sloth 2017-12-01
Do you just randomly say retarded shit?
1 LightUmbra 2017-12-01
Sometimes.
1 BigLordShiggot 2017-12-01
You can tell someone is liberal because they are always short-circuited.
1 Sober_Sloth 2017-12-01
Oh wow good one, how did you come up with such a funny joke?
1 captainpriapism 2017-12-01
cant deport people that are born there but you sure can deport illegals
1 Ponchorello7 2017-12-01
I agree that illegals who commit crimes should be deported, but that shouldn't mean all sanctuary cities should just up and let ICE go around Gestapo style.
1 captainpriapism 2017-12-01
being an illegal immigrant is illegal though, and thats immigration enforcements job
the entire idea of a sanctuary city is dumb, its sanctioned crime
1 IneedSomeThrowaway 2017-12-01
Sanctuary cities are just letting the government enforce immigration laws.
1 throwaway03022017 2017-12-01
While getting all bussy blasted when they actually do enforce them
1 Ponchorello7 2017-12-01
It's a victim-less crime. The concept of sanctuary cities exists because there are people with empathy who realize the vast majority of immigrants want to improve their condition. And because it's pretty convenient to have workers with fewer privileges.
That's the only thing I think is bad about illegal immigrants; the fact that they often get taken advantage of.
1 captainpriapism 2017-12-01
do you mean apart from all the people they incidentally raped and murdered
did you see that guy got away with shooting a woman because he said it was an accident
illegal immigrants arent the same as regular immigrants, nothing wrong with regular immigrants that want to do things properly
1 Ponchorello7 2017-12-01
Being an immigrant doesn't make you a rapist or a murderer. These things can happen t anyone and by anyone. In fact, immigrants are less likely to commit crimes.
And you're second comment just shows how out of touch you are. Immigrating legally is an extremely long process. Some of the people leaving their countries don't have that kind of time. It's the governments fault for making the process so long.
1 captainpriapism 2017-12-01
no but when you have no way to vet people theres more chance one will slip through, and coincidentally enough it keeps happening
funnily enough thats the sort of thing legal immigration checks for in someones history
so? you dont have an implicit right to enter a country
if you dont like waiting dont move there, go somewhere else
why do you think they should all just automatically be allowed in? thats not how immigration works
i couldnt even get a visa to america right now, its not something you should expect
1 BeenCarl 2017-12-01
Had a buddy have a green card came to America got married had a great job and then found out his card expired. He was now an illegal immigrant. Spent three years and $4000 dollars trying to become Legal. Finally ran into a lawyer who spoke enough Spanish to help him and he finally got accepted.
Guy serves this country in the US Army and exemplifies more American values than most Americans. Illegal Aliens aren't the problem the system is the problem.
1 Ponchorello7 2017-12-01
All of your responses really make me think you have never met an immigrant and only believe what you see from Fox news or something.
But you are right in that a country should decide who goes in or out. But I maintain that many have no choice but to go illegally and to specific countries. Central American migrants usually don't wait because their lives might be in immediate risk and they don't want to stay in Mexico because the lack of economic opportunities and presence of gangs that exploit or harm them.
Immigration policy should be based on empathy and the host countries ability to house them. There is no reason why the US can't have these migrants.
1 captainpriapism 2017-12-01
im australian and everyone here is an immigrant, but we detain all illegals on an island off shore
i disagree
where i live people are ferried by human traffickers that promise them a new life, making thousands of dollars at a time
the people buying passage are not poor or they couldnt afford it, and the boats pass by tens of other viable refugee destinations on their way to australia
we shoot the boats until they sink and imprison everyone on them
ideally america would have a similar system
just because your country is shit it doesnt mean you can just go to someone elses without following the rules
nobody cares about a sob story
good countries are only that way because they dont just let every random person in
like for instance did you know you wouldnt be allowed to move to where i live and i wouldnt be allowed to move to where you live?
did you also know the economy is affected when more people are in a place but dont pay tax or contribute
1 BigLordShiggot 2017-12-01
Just. Stop. Illegal. Immigration.
1 Bahamut_Ali 2017-12-01
But its already illegal. Nothing else we can do. Price of freedom and all that.
1 BigLordShiggot 2017-12-01
Build. That. Wall.
1 Bahamut_Ali 2017-12-01
Illegal immigrant free.zonea don't work.
1 BigLordShiggot 2017-12-01
You are saying we should keep a few, for target practice?
1 Bahamut_Ali 2017-12-01
We don't need new walls, just enforce the ones we got.
1 BigLordShiggot 2017-12-01
We don't need anything except 800 calories per day and a cage with a roof. We WILL have a BIG BEAUTIFUL WALL!
1 Bahamut_Ali 2017-12-01
If thats how you want to live but you will die.
1 BigLordShiggot 2017-12-01
You first.
1 Bahamut_Ali 2017-12-01
Me first what?
1 BigLordShiggot 2017-12-01
You will die first.
1 Bahamut_Ali 2017-12-01
Possibly. We're all gonna die some day. Who knows how or when. Thats just life, man.
1 BigLordShiggot 2017-12-01
Until then, we shall fill our hearts with courage, and empty our nation of illegals.
1 Bahamut_Ali 2017-12-01
But its already illegal. Nothing else we can do. Price of freedom and all that.
1 BigLordShiggot 2017-12-01
Wrong.
1 Bahamut_Ali 2017-12-01
Its already illegal. No need for new walls just enforce the ones we have.
1 BigLordShiggot 2017-12-01
BUILD THE WALL.
DEPORT THEM ALL.
1 Bahamut_Ali 2017-12-01
Illegal immigrant free zones don't work.
1 BigLordShiggot 2017-12-01
BUILD THE WALL.
DEPORT THEM ALL.
1 Bahamut_Ali 2017-12-01
But its already illegal. Nothing else we can do. Price of freedom and all that.
1 BigLordShiggot 2017-12-01
BUILD THE WALL.
DEPORT THEM ALL.
1 Bahamut_Ali 2017-12-01
But its already illegal. Nothing else we can do. Price of freedom and all that.
1 BigLordShiggot 2017-12-01
BUILD THE WALL.
DEPORT THEM ALL.
1 Bahamut_Ali 2017-12-01
But its already illegal. Nothing else we can do. Price of freedom and all that.
1 BigLordShiggot 2017-12-01
We can
DEPORT ALL ILLEGALS
and
DESTROY ISLAM
1 Bahamut_Ali 2017-12-01
But its already illegal. Nothing else we can do. Price of freedom and all that.
1 Couldnt_think_of_a 2017-12-01
Ann Coulter calls for murder.
1 ConsoleWarCriminal 2017-12-01
/ourgal/
1 Oh_hamburgers_ 2017-12-01
Unironically love this crazy old bat.
1 TheAltRightIsAlright 2017-12-01
She's quick as a whip, better than any of the newfag trolls like Milo
1 TUMS_FESTIVAL 2017-12-01
Remember everyone, we shouldn't be using killings to push our political agen--oh shit it was a darkie. Nevermind.
1 Senator_Chickpea 2017-12-01
Sanctuary! Sanctuary!
1 wazzupnerds 2017-12-01
/u/pizzashill on a scale of 1 to 10 how happy are you about this.
1 Assy-McGee 2017-12-01
eleventy
1 Mexagon 2017-12-01
Lol white privilege.
1 Oh_hamburgers_ 2017-12-01
Well gee whiz fellas I guess if you ever need to murder someone you just need to wrap the gun in a shirt beforehand and you're good!
1 IvankaTrumpIsMyWaifu 2017-12-01
Step 1: Be an illegal spic
Step 2: Don't be white
1 ConsoleWarCriminal 2017-12-01
Unrelated to my sperging, that brave latinx looks exactly like the bad guy in the original Magnificent Seven.
1 keepittropical 2017-12-01
On the brightside, maybe more mayos in this city will get fed up and move away now that they have to worry about jose "accidentally" poppin a cap in their white ass and escaping justice.
The housing prices really are that ridiculous around here.
1 BigLordShiggot 2017-12-01
Perhaps we can make a deal with Rocket Man on ridding us of Berkeley.
1 DrinkProfessionally 2017-12-01
/u/comedicsans
I dont get this, in rape cases even if it was involuntary and the acusser had no idea there wasnt consent they still say that a reasonable person should have seen there was no consent and convict based on that.
So why the fuck are they letting this guy go? cant they say that only a fucking retard would shot a gun in the middle of a public place in the first place?
1 moush 2017-12-01
Same reason oj got off, shitty prosecutors.
1 ComedicSans 2017-12-01
He said he didn't know it was a gun when he grabbed it and that when it shot, the bullet ricocheted off concrete. The prosecution's theory of the case clearly did not explain the ricochet very well and their case fell apart.
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1 starship_litterbox 2017-12-01
ITT: Conservatives become the Black Lives Matter reaction crowd. Delicious.