Al 'Golden Groper' Franken to resign. Are the Dems taking a principled stand or just "getting fucked in the ass?" r/politics debates...

47  2017-12-06 by jorio

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You're oversimplifying a complex situation to the point of adding nothing to the discussion.

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Is this an alternate reality version of politics?

But execute Al Franken over this now and what are you saying to the many men (and women including his accuser strangely enough) about their chances at redemption?

What does this say to women (and men) who have some other grudge and may want to use fake charges of ass grabbing against another?

What does this say about fundamental understandings of fairness or due process?

Since when has the preferred party of feminists believed in redemption for "toxic" men, acknowledged that women sometimes lie, or ever given a flying fuck about due process?

"But it's different when we do it!" - Should probably be the official party platform.

"But it's different when we do it!" - Should probably be the official party platform

Does it work that way when it is a minority opinion?

They seem to want to be rewarded for "doing the right thing" a lot

Isn't one of the points of doing the right thing is you may not end up on top?

doesn't that go the other way around too, though?

if you really believe that what you're trying to do politically is right and good for people, isn't it selfish to martyr yourself for some brownie points by resigning rather than being seen as an asshole but trying to do what you think would benefit millions of other people?

It isn't selfless to keep your job and assault women.

Isn't it, if you truly believe that your job is to improve the lives of 300 million people? Isn't the selfless thing to keep doing that, not do anymore awkward sexual shit, and just take the hate? Same goes for Roy Moore, why should he drop out if he hypothetically believes that what he's doing on the job is good for his entire state and country?

No, not resigning only saves his own ass. There are other politicians that will replace him that don't assault people. He is a criminal not a martyr.

but you, hypothetically as a politician, believe you are the best person for the job who can do the most good for the most people

Right it is just a dude that is self righteous, delusional, and fill of pride. He can be replaced.

Watch any Bob Ross program and replace "trees" with "niggers" and "blue" with "prostitute's liquid shit".

Can you imagine what would happen if Chris Rock dropped this shit now?

How can the left talk about Moore when Franklin is still is office?

He's only stepping down because the left is looking for brownie points.

Moore is even worse

He tries to throw the bible in your face while he does it

Some people refuse to learn the immutable word of God. Thus it is sometimes necessary to impact the mind with the truth.

he tries to put a lot more than that in your face if youre the right age

Moore is even worse

The allegations against Moore are shakey at best.

Washington Post went looking for anyone that would tell them what they wanted to hear and given Moore is a former prosecutor and judge he has a lot of enemies.

Like the former cop Faye Gary

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that says Moore was banned from the mall for harassing underage girls, her brother was prosecuted on drugs charges by Moore. The mall manager says it never happened.

this is why dems are on the right side of history here. Let the republicans have their little tactical victories, but its liberals who ALWAYS get the last laugh- cause society becomes more progressive as time marches on.

/u/sausage_ditka_bulls You should go outside one day. Like, if only for an hour or so.

Societies become more progressive until they abruptly stop being societies.

The only thing that’ll get the last laugh is human nature.

Deep

I️t has happened many times.

Societies become less cohesive, and then fall like a house of cards due to threats within and without.

Hahaha when? The Ottoman empire?

The Roman Empire is probably the best example.

Uh huh, and which of their progressive policies lead to their down fall?

It’s less a specific policy and more about just social stress and loss of cohesion.

If you are the kind who likes reading about history, Rome in general is just a good mine.

Okay name a bunch of policies then because so far you have made no connection besides I said so.

Too much immigration from the Nazis (in part) led to Rome's downfall. Anti-fa tried to crush them but they got out-memed at Adrianople

Seriously, is there an influx in the number of these morons today or am I just trying to hard to fill /u/pizzashill 's shoes?

Go read a book and educate yourself

What's the principle authority on memetic history?

The Art of the Deal

Which YouTube vids did you watch? Link them now.

Giving citizenship to the brown people

#DAEThinkAmericaIsLiekRoam?

Actually while the idea certainly applies to Rome as reflected in Machiavelli's Discourses on Livy's histories, there are much old and much more recent examples.

At least their incels were turned into Janissaries.

He's actually right based on a model first observed in the classical period that has held true since. The American system of government is in a large part based on the idea.

Though "more progressive" isn't the term I'd use. Look into Aristotle's six types of government and the accompanying cycle.

Oh I wasn't being sarcastic, I actually thought it was an interesting thought so I upvoted and left a comment.

Sometimes, the best way of being an edgy asshole is not being edgy at all

Oh, I wasn't raised right so I'm just an asshole all the time. Soyboy.

I hope that one day the world learns who you really are beneath the mask and that you find Allah's ever-lasting peace.

Because progressive is the completely incorrect word to use. It's entropy and atrophy. Progressive vs conservative politics isn't very relevant here, and more to do with his last sentence.

I can't even get fast food without some dude telling a story these days about "how this homo nigga fart in he gay boy's butt and made a double fart" or something so I dunno if that is true or not but one day I hope for a sexless star trek next gen future.

“how this homo nigga fart in he gay boy’s butt and made a double fart”

🤔

I doubt we’ll make it that far this time, but hopefully next time around.

LOL Star Trek the Next Generation had an episode where Ryker basically turned a space lesbian straight and she had to be re educated by her planet.

It was the beard.

That's the reason Ryker isn't allowed on TV anymore.

Don't leave us hanging! How does the story end?

They reversed the polarity of the dilithium crystals and he was able to get his Triple Whopper with Cheese.

Did Data make some wacky faux pas by misinterpreting a cultural construct that ended up getting him just a little bit closer to understanding the human condition?

Maybe. If the budget didn't allow an off-set shoot the Holodeck was broken that week.

Smooth move, Lt Broccoli

society

le ghoul detected

Wow, they're not even hiding it anymore. That username is full of cuck lingo.

Once again, the left maims itself while the right laughs and steals from the poor.

It almost like he wants people to become right wing with the way he describes it.

Next time on Democrat Ball Z. Watch was the Democrats engage in another energetic session of fucking each other in the ass.

If only Air America were still around to go to bat for him!

Gropes and the Groping Gropers Who Feel Them

its only bad if its a republican doing the groping (franken), or cheating on his wife (clinton), or being involed in pedophilia (Ahr).

These people are fucking delusional if they think the party of Ted Kennedy and Bill Clinton is taking the high road here rather than making a political calculation based on next week's special election.