Do you want the show to get cancelled in the middle of the first season? Although I do not know the specifics of The Witcher lore or story, I am sure there are things the books have or does that will not translate good to tv.
/u/Paxxlee it worked perfectly fine for the Lord of the Rings, and they didn't have any shoehorned diversity either (Besides the Uruk-Hai, but they were cool and non-CGI.). Those films were immensely successful and seen as some of the best fantasy adaptations of all time.
I remember a TV-movie fairlytale adaptation with 'color-blind casting' back in the 90's or early 2000's that was pretty significant because of the color-blind casting. I can't for the life of me figure out what it was, though. It's like it never existed. But yeah, imposing burger standards on a narrative written and set in a place full of people who have historically been oppressed (and whose diaspora is still discriminated against in a lot of Western countries today) is a dumb idea.
They didn't follow the source material, they deviated the most from it. Shane survived, thru went to the CDC, etc. It's sucked a lot more lately bc the current approach is the midseason finale and season finale follow the writers' braindead interpretation of the comics and everyone just sleeps for the other episodes. When they didn't follow the comics, like Terminus, it was good
That's just stating a fact. Like the sky is blue or /u/MG87 has the mental capacity of an unborn fetus. Lending credence to the idea that life starts before birth, a sad pathetic life.
Should I bother with the rest at all? I enjoyed the first season too, but stopped in the second one and from what it sounds like, the show has gotten really bad recently
Ok, so let's talk about the conspiracy by (((The Polish))) to not include PoC's in their game or upcoming tv series.....
There is none, it's a game made by polish develpers, based on a book written by a polish author which was not even that popular or translated outside eastern and central europe, before the 2nd game hit the market. Now I'm not from Poland ( I'm from another part of Mordor). But I'm gonna make a bold statement that when a game developer ( or any other creator) from Central/Eastern Europe/ Balkans etc. creater their product they don't start automatically thinking on how said product would reflect the race relations or political situation in USA.
which was not even that popular or translated outside eastern and central europe
It's not particularly popular or well know in Poland either. After the games came out, Sapkowski became our Coelho. An author widely know internationally, but not highly rated nationally.
I tried to read the first one when it came out im my country, again I believe after the second game ( same with Metro series)....and I found it boring. But hey, I also disliked GoT so I must be an idiot.
I’ve thought of that too, like how many minority filmmakers or actors are pressured to feel the burden of being some kind of representative for their group instead of just, you know, wanting to make movies like everyone else
One of the developers of Mankind Divided was black and got so PISSED when people claimed his game was "problematic" and "soft" to that he went to fucking KIA to yell at people
c) give more roles to the women compared to what they had in the games ( have only played the first one, so I don't know about their role in the sequels)
In books the main casts often visits brothels, so I can't imagine how butthurt SJWs would be.
If there's anything the Witcher saga isn't lacking, it's female characters. Geralt spends like half those books being led around by more powerful, domineering woman. A little girl supplants him as the main character for all intents and purposes after the short story collections. It's like Sapkowski has a femdom fetish or something.
I like the "WHERE DOES TEH AUTHOR SAY THEY WEREN'T BLACK" line of argument. Writers need to start describing every aspect of every character to stop this from happen
"The men entered the room. The first was white, the second was an off shade of white but still white enough to get a cab at night. The third man was black but more of a chocolate. The last man was Asian but was more of south pacific complexion but was a bit light for that area."
Flashback to when JK Rowling said that about Hermione and someone tweeted a quote of 'Hermiones white face' or something of the sort that JK Rowling herself had wrote.
I don't even have a problem changing the race of character for an adaption show, it really freshen the character up and can often become the definitive version
Making Nick Fury black in the Ultimate universe made him different and, in many people's eyes, better and let old white Nick Fury go into a different direction allowing us to have both badass Sam Jackson Fury and beaten down old Cold War Fury
Its this stupid ass "IT WAS LORE ALONG" retcons that are annoying
Hermione is white in the books but black in the stage adaptation, both of those are more than fine
My point was more the 'le author never said they weren't X race!' That people say when they've never even read the source material. An author claimed their own character that they wrote as white was never said to be white, and it's just so obvious everyone saying this is looking to score diversity points.
I honestly won't care if they make Geralt black, but the reality is that the games, which clearly depict him as white and about the same looking throughout them, are far more popular than the books at this point. Even if it's not done for diversity points, the fans will think it is and nobody will watch it. That's the unfortunate truth.
Meh, Nick Fury will always be a white haired grizzled looking pipe smoking badass for me. The black Nick Fury only "worked" because Samuel Jackson has been cultivating his personal image as a "bad ass mother fucker" for ages. He basically played as himself.
Nick Fury's archetype as a sort of Snake Pliskin lookin dude is more definitive.
Sam Jackson worked fine playing himself if he is well-cast. And he was well-cast as Nick Fury.
What bothers me is that people are whining about white-washing while simultaneously justifying shoving diversity hires in everything for no reason whatsoever. Be consistent for God's sake.
They're consistent but the consistency is just "being anti-white". Whatever seems inconsistent on face value when they do it, just ask yourself, "how can this be taken as anti-white", and it suddenly would make a lot more sense.
That's it. Actually made me sad to see. I have no problem with black Hermione, but that's a picture of an author lying about their own works just to appease a certain group of fans. Why not just say 'Well that was the books, stage adaption is different'.
honestly I'd even buy the interpretation that it's metaphorically white, like "white with fear". in the same way that "a face dark with anger" wouldn't necessarily mean the character was black
it's just a metaphor that means the blood rushes out of your face. white people don't turn black in the dark with rage example either. in context the character is scared so the "white" description makes more sense as a reference to that than a literal thing to me
nope, doesn't fly. White people go "white" with fear because blood drains out of their face, and with white skin (normally slightly pinkish) this is a noticeable change). You can drain blood out of a black person's face and they won't look white, because... well, you do the math.
like, I never pictured Hermione as anything but white and I guarantee Rowling didn't either, but if I had been reading her as not white and I can't across that sentence I don't think I would read it as meaning anything other than "scared"
The character was also described as resembling "half a panda" after getting a black eye. Doesn't sound like a metaphor to me, although I'm not a book critic.
Well akcutally the panda example would be a Simile, Metaphor states something is something else ( Hermione is a Panda) a Simile states that something looks like something else ( Hermione looked like a Panda)
To play devil's advocate, you could argue that it was meant to mean scared. Like, the blood has vacated my face because I might be about to get in trouble and I"m Hermione so this is worse than death.
The proper interpretation is that Hermione was briefly cursed with magical whiteness, as only mayos are cowardly enough to feel fear in such a mundane situation.
that's a picture of an author lying about their own works just to appease a certain group of fans.
Yup, exactly like Rowling's belated grab for the pink pound. Seven books weren't enough to give a credible hint that Dumbledore was gay, she had to resort to Word of God. Hack.
Yeah she obviously meant it like “white as a sheet” which is an expression I’ve heard some people use, but that mostly only applies to pale skinned people anyway so I guess the point stands.
"If you do not explicitly call out every single feature of the characters in your slavic country that means that all of them can be black" It's so fucking stupid. Do these people want to read 200 pages on shades of complexion?
After all this, I hope Sapkowski gets convention-level drunk and opens his mouth about the subject of people telling him how to write his fiction. If his track record is any indication, the resulting couchfainting by these fucks would be glorious.
I hope Sapkowski gets convention-level drunk and opens his mouth about the subject of people telling him how to write his fiction.
"It's a fantasy setting. That's why shit that doesn't exist here exists there and shit that exists here, doesn't exist there. You might as well complain that orcs are underrepresented in this book. It's a fictional world where those things just happen to not exist there."
Translation: His ideal fantasy world is populated only by proto-mayos.
Oh trust me, the content wouldn't be the issue, just the notion of some rando Seppo cunt presuming to retcon a world he spent half his literary career writing. The man has a... forceful personality. Nuff said that every con team in the country eventually learned to keep him away from the drink for the duration of his visit.
It really is the land of endless liver failure. A friend was doing grocery shopping one day and saw an old guy with the biggest ginblossom come into the shop, ask for "two blueberries", and leave with two big bottles of violet metho.
then again, I'm biased. I'm from Łódź, which is a former textile industry center that fell on hard times after the wall came down. So there's more than the usual amount of misery and unemployment. On the plus side, it's picking itself up slowly but surely (at least i like to think so)
Shit-talking aside, I actually had a great time in Kraków. Pierogi has to be the best street food that's not burritos. Glad to hear Łódź is growing back up.
Glad to hear it! If you ever visit again, check out the salt mine museum in Wieliczka if you haven't already. Amazing place, and quite close to Krakow.
Sapkowski - "I sold the rights to my series to CD Projekt Red for a base sum, because I thought games are stupid and amount to nothing, but now that it's one of the most successful games in history I'm salty that I didn't ask for royalties instead."
After the Witcher books, he did a historical fiction series based on the Hussite rebellion, which was awesome (Narrenturm, Warriors of God, Lux Perpetua if you're interested) but it hasn't been translated to English yet.
I don't think it ever will be, TBH, even though I'd like if it were. Too nichey.
When he sits down and starts talking about random stuff, it's the best. The man has a brilliant patter and he's incredibly erudite. I'm a bit jealous, actually, I've only heard this second hand.
I was starstruck the whole night, but he was a blast. Brilliant sense of humor, plus it was before Witcher 3 so he hadn't soured on the games yet and he said a lot of good things about them.
Sapkowski is an old miser who hates games, but he’s not a conservative. He dislikes communism but most of the books lean liberal politically, arguably they are even feminist in terms of what they have to say about women. And obviously they’re pretty strongly anti-racist. I doubt he’s going to go on a rant if they add some non white characters into the show.
You're not wrong about him probably not objecting to PoC representation, but I don't think he'd appreciate someone pushing on him this socrealistic "art should serve the interests of the cause" crap that some Western progressives have seemingly adopted hook, line and sinker.
Look guys; I didn't start this argument, I'm trying to show these people who got ridiculously angry about something that they completely made up that there are other ways to look at it. And you can't honestly think that those three examples and whatever other examples we can go try and dig out will begin to balance it out.
Make your own shit, there's so many fucking black directors ask yourself why they haven't made any good movies or t.v. shows about it. It's up to no one but the people who want it to make a movie about the African pantheon
Black directors who could make these films or shows but simply choose not to:
Spike Lee
Tyler Perry
Denzel Washington
The Wayans Brothers
Don Cheadle
Morgan Freeman
John Singleton
Charles Burnett
Robert Townsend
Forest Whitaker
Ice Cube
Bill Duke
Vondie Curtis-Hall
But I guess you could claim Black Americans aren't Black Africans and it makes more sense for an African to write about African lore (because Thor was directed by a Norse Viking, The Mummy was directed by an Egyptian, Hercules was directed by a Roman, oh wait...)
In which case,
Black Africans directors who could make these films or shows but simply choose not to:
Haile Gerima
Med Hondo
Gaston Kaboré
Mahamat-Saleh Haroun
Abderrahmane Sissako
/u/ThingkingWithPortals , Cleverman is literally a show that exists, focusing on the lore of Indigenous Australians and directed by two Aboriginals. So the only reason to get pissy about the lack of visual media involving African folklore is because the Africans and Black Americans are too lazy to make it. Crying about there being too many white people in a show about Slavic folklore is retarded.
Next you'll complain that there's too many Asians and not enough blacks being represented in Drunken Master and Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon.
But I guess you could claim Black Americans aren't Black Africans and it makes more sense for an African to write about African lore (because Thor was directed by a Norse Viking, The Mummy was directed by an Egyptian, Hercules was directed by a Roman, oh wait...)
The first part is true. Black Americans aren't Africans. That's like saying Americans with German roots are Germans. It's bullshit.
You do realize that producers don't just conjure up media from thin air right? They need a company and funds. Danny Glover has been trying to make a movie about the Haitian Revolution for years and no one will take it because they demand he have a major white character. In a movie about the most successful black slave revolt in the history of the Americas, Hollywood demands a white protag
Ah yes the classic "they're too lazy it's so easy for them to do" argument. A winner!
Wow you guys, you did it. With some shrewd google searches you convinced me -a white man on the internet- that racism has been cured in the entertainment industry. We can all go back to whatever we were doing before now and feel happy that there is no problem.
I'm going to crack up in 15 years or so when Nollywood is sufficiently developed for Nigerian films to catch on with the western media market and all the salt that will come out of activists like this when it's actual Africans who manage to make good movies exploring their mythology.
Balance WHAT out? What is it with you people and these nonsensical obsessions with a false 'balance'? Black people make up only 13% of America's population, yet everything has to be 50/50 white/black? Not how that works, mate.
Pardon, are you actually trying to start a conversation after you've made it abundantly clear that you'll run off to SLS the second you feel triggered?
Problem is no one wants to touch it. It would be s fucking nuclear bomb that will only end in boycotting and letter bombs, extreme lefties would just be frothing at the first whiff of an error.
Really? Is that the problem? That people don't want to touch it because of muh Es Jay Dubs?
Danny Glover has been trying to make a movie about the Haitian Revolution for years and no one will take it because they demand he have a major white character. In a movie about the most successful black slave revolt in the history of the Americas, Hollywood demands a white protag
And that isn't even mythology, it's straight up history. So stop scapegoating SJWs.
Olfir has the Witcher's versions of Arabics (in terms of physical traits). The Witcher games add a ton of lore that isn't present in the books. I really doubt anyone would complain much if mayo Geralt went to another far away land, either new or old, where the people weren't white.
I'd like to see a single person who genuinely believes there wouldn't be outrage if a character who has been traditionally black was replaced with a mayo. SRDines would implode.
It would be awesome if Geralt went to Zerrikania imo. Just don't shoehorn coloured people into the Northern Kingdoms to reflect American racial sensibilities.
Anyone who votes for Trump because of this bullshit culture war stuff is an idiot.
Trump can't actually stop any of this from happening. He can't make people say Merry Christmas, he can't stop people from writing racist editorials about how every show needs non-whites in it or whatever.
They simply cannot understand that not every single piece of fiction with white people in it has to reflect the problems in their shitty fucking society. If the Witcher was based on Japan or something like that you would hear none of this noise.
isn't this the exact opposite of the shitstorm surrounding Scarlett Johansson in ghost in the shell? a character's race is changed to appeal to American audiences?
Yeah, they are being hypocritical. It's just about making that fantasy world less white. The rationalizations seem internally contradictory. They wouldn't do this to a story that is majority POC to begin with. They are not complaining that the upcoming Black Panther movie is too homogeneous.
The funny thing with GiTs and the major is her racial appearance is literally irrelevant, she's a full body cyborg. I'm not sure why almost no one complained batou was white at the same time lmao. There's also no complaints about one of the japanese guys being black lol
Yeah, but they were asking for a greater variety of POC races, not for the inclusion of white people, right? My point is that their idea of diversity isn't truly diverse because it doesn't include white people. They would want a homogeneously white world to include POC, but never seem to ask for more white representation in homogeneously POC fictional worlds.
I just thought it was funny that a fiction set in an Asian world with Asian characters needs more muslims, blacks and hispanics. I saw a couple of pieces of "fan art" called "PoC Piece" where they pretty much got rid of everyone who could have been asian or white.
I don't watch or read it. I just saw people bitching about it online saying there wasn't enough PoCs and that the main cast should be mostly PoCs and since it's manga I assumed the main cast was based on Japanese people so I thought it was funny.
Well my comment was just a joke. I do read it and the cast really isnt Japanese or even Asian looking. Granted thats due to the cartoony art style. I do find it odd that these retards want more races in One Piece when that world actually has different races, animal people, mermaids, fairies and dwarves
It's virtue signaling at its finest. They find something they enjoy. A movie, book, TV series, comic/manga, etc and then have to bemoan to their SWJ friends how much better the entertainment would be if there were more PoC, LGBT, Disabled and religious minorities.
For all the weeb shit I enjoy I really don't have a dog in the fight. I just enjoy watching American SJWs telling a 99% Japanese ethnostate that they don't have enough brown, muslim, gay and trans in their entertainment,
They sure have pretty weird priorities. Given Japan's ethnicity makeup, I think Japan is doing pretty well.
Mostly Japanese, with some sprinkles of Chinese, Korean, Okinawan, and Ainu in the mix. That is what I usually see in their entertainment media when the stage is set in Japan.
Yeah, but it's a saga which gets a lot from Slavic and European fantasy (which is usually based on mithology). Nobody denies that Europe had people of colour, be slaves, merchants, etc.
Personally I think it's their representation, not America's. Poland is a country where people of colour are rare. It's obvious that their representation of those people would be tangential. There's no problem adding people of colour. But they would be secondary or extra characters. Making one main would be, imho, shoehorning. It makes sense to an SRDine, not to a Polish Sapkowski fan from the countryside.
This overrepresentation (representation is needed, but not everywhere and everytime) fad is pretty American centric. Not all Western media is intended to represent you or your people. That doesn't make it intrinsically racist, it makes them varied, and more interesting. Nobody bats an eye at Korean, Japanese or Chinese movies with no white people. Well, they have their immigrant populations too.
tbh I'd like to see a Geralt de Rivia thingy with minorities but actually drawing from African tribes or Haitian with voodoo and all that shit. Kinda like Black Panther.
I'm really fucking tired of the forced diversity shit. I'm Asian and I give zero fucks if a movie/show had all white people, in fact my favourite movies are the Godfather and Star Wars sequels and almost everyone is white in those. My most loved game is also GTA San Andreas, which stars a black man.
I mean if people on Reddit want to complain about a lack of diversity because they want to see more people of other race, that's fine. But if they are complaining because they feel that there is an injustice that they must correct, then please kindly fuck off because I never asked for you to stand up for me. I can do it myself if I want to.
The other point is just because there weren't many "people of colour" doesn't mean there were no "minorities" or ethnic conflict in medieval Poland. Just because by modern American racial standards the people would all (for the most part) be considered white doesn't mean that the various ethnicities of the PLC viewed themselves as all the same.
American liberals act like they're so worldly but really they're just as clueless as any other burger.
That's just it. The Witcher series has a lot of ethnic conflict, but it's mostly between groups with pale-skins, so ethnocentric Americans think of them as indistinguishable.
It's not like the genre has been famous for using fantasy races like elves as a proxy for real-world racial issues ever since Tolkein or anything. If it's not literally an oppressed group of brown people being lorded over by haughty whites then it's too subtle for their minds to grasp.
Fucking slacktivists not knowing basic aspects of the hobby they're trying to colonize smdh.
Herein lies the folly of oversimplified identity politics: while identity concerns obviously warrant analysis, focusing on them too exclusively draws our attention so far inward that none of our analyses can lead to action. Rebecca Reilly Cooper, a political philosopher at the University of Warwick, worries about the effectiveness of a politics in which "particular experiences can never legitimately speak for any one other than ourselves, and personal narrative and testimony are elevated to such a degree that there can be no objective standpoint from which to examine their veracity." Personal experience and feelings aren't just a salient touchstone of contemporary identity politics; they are the entirety of these politics. In such an environment, it's no wonder that students are so prone to elevate minor slights to protestable offenses.
(It's also why seemingly piddling matters of cultural consumption warrant much more emotional outrage than concerns with larger material implications. Compare the number of web articles surrounding the supposed problematic aspects of the newest Avengers movie with those complaining about, say, the piecemeal dismantling of abortion rights. The former outnumber the latter considerably, and their rhetoric is typically much more impassioned and inflated. I'd discuss this in my classes — if I weren't too scared to talk about abortion.)
The press for actionability, or even for comprehensive analyses that go beyond personal testimony, is hereby considered redundant, since all we need to do to fix the world's problems is adjust the feelings attached to them and open up the floor for various identity groups to have their say. All the old, enlightened means of discussion and analysis —from due process to scientific method — are dismissed as being blind to emotional concerns and therefore unfairly skewed toward the interest of straight white males. All that matters is that people are allowed to speak, that their narratives are accepted without question, and that the bad feelings go away.
So it's not just that students refuse to countenance uncomfortable ideas — they refuse to engage them, period. Engagement is considered unnecessary, as the immediate, emotional reactions of students contain all the analysis and judgment that sensitive issues demand. As Judith Shulevitz wrote in the New York Times, these refusals can shut down discussion in genuinely contentious areas, such as when Oxford canceled an abortion debate. More often, they affect surprisingly minor matters, as when Hampshire College disinvited an Afrobeat band because their lineup had too many white people in it.
Oh noes, not the presence of non white people in the gaming culture, it's basically the same as when the cops erased the presence of Eric Garner in the land of the living.
Look buddy, idk how you did that, but you managed to find the single worst opportunity to virtue signal about people misusing the notion of virtue signaling. Not only that shit is in fact pure virtue signaling, but also even the coloreds who are privileged enough to be concerned about that shit are therefore honorary whites and will get the bullet too.
DeShawn the Elf Lord gazed upon his torturer with eyes reddened by his hare for all tree-beings. "Ayo, I's gettin' tied uh all dis, you know where you at righ, nah? You in MY hood, homie."
Just then, Alejandro the Queer Wizard broke through the canopy of the forest and slammed into the ground, kneeling at the feet of the great tree being A'Zhatigein. Xe peered up at the oppressor with a grin. "Ola senior. You have foo' stam' allication?"
Fucks sake i dont care either way it just makes no sense lorewise ITS A SWAMPLAND IN THE MIDDLE OF A WAR WHERE THEY KILL PEOPLE FOR HAVING POINTY EARS the nearest source of black people canoically is a fucking area on the map marked ''here be dragons'' why the fuck would anyone from there be hanging around and not be lynched already by retarded peasants who literally burn women alive for growing herbs.
You have to love the sheer myopic audacity of saying "your game's dystopian medieval hellhole currently being invaded by fantasy Austrians isn't butchering enough brown people along with all the mayos".
What's worse is that, as you can see by digging in the comments of the witcher subreddit (and not in SRD masturbating each other with upboots), the witcher universe CANONICALLY HAS brown people, who are good alchemists, have good taste in flowers, and certainly do not shit in the mud like the white nordlings do.
Indeed, there are plenty of reasonable ways you can add brown people if you want. But they'll probably just end up having Geralt played by Idris Elba instead.
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1 Ultrashitpost 2018-01-01
/u/Paxxlee it worked perfectly fine for the Lord of the Rings, and they didn't have any shoehorned diversity either (Besides the Uruk-Hai, but they were cool and non-CGI.). Those films were immensely successful and seen as some of the best fantasy adaptations of all time.
1 I_DRINK_TO_FORGET 2018-01-01
TV writers are notoriously fucking retarded and the shit they change is never an improvement on the base material.
First 6 episodes of The Walking Dead - amazing, followed the source material
Every other episode - complete shit, written by TV writers
Its a classic fable at this point.
1 Ultrashitpost 2018-01-01
True, and i don't think changing stuff for the sake of diversity has ever improved any movie or tv series.
1 I_DRINK_TO_FORGET 2018-01-01
When you start asking questions like 'how does making this character gay and black improve the story' you get some real interesting panicked answers.
1 deere442 2018-01-01
no they'll just go with the easy out "it's not about improving the story it's about representaaaaation"
1 snallygaster 2018-01-01
I remember a TV-movie fairlytale adaptation with 'color-blind casting' back in the 90's or early 2000's that was pretty significant because of the color-blind casting. I can't for the life of me figure out what it was, though. It's like it never existed. But yeah, imposing burger standards on a narrative written and set in a place full of people who have historically been oppressed (and whose diaspora is still discriminated against in a lot of Western countries today) is a dumb idea.
1 Imaxmcrzysachizo 2018-01-01
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Captain Planet
1 uniqueguy263 2018-01-01
They didn't follow the source material, they deviated the most from it. Shane survived, thru went to the CDC, etc. It's sucked a lot more lately bc the current approach is the midseason finale and season finale follow the writers' braindead interpretation of the comics and everyone just sleeps for the other episodes. When they didn't follow the comics, like Terminus, it was good
1 I_DRINK_TO_FORGET 2018-01-01
Do you have brain damage?
I said everything after episode 6 was shit.
1 uniqueguy263 2018-01-01
In episode 6 they went to the CDC, for that whole season which was 6 episodes they didn't follow the comics at all
1 I_DRINK_TO_FORGET 2018-01-01
Oh i see, i misremembered season 1 for episode 1, the only decent episode. Ive updated my post, thank you for the enlightenment on sitcom drama tv.
1 MG87 2018-01-01
Fun fact: your opinion is not objective
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1 stevemisor 2018-01-01
Kirkmen loves the TV show and prefers it when it drifts away from the source material and do different things
1 I_DRINK_TO_FORGET 2018-01-01
I don't give a shit what kirkman likes or says, his story is the superior one.
1 MG87 2018-01-01
Lol you're quite the sperg
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1 I_DRINK_TO_FORGET 2018-01-01
Being able to type more than one sentence in a post doesn't make someone a sperg. God damn you are the dumb.
1 MG87 2018-01-01
No but saying shit like:
Kinda does
1 I_DRINK_TO_FORGET 2018-01-01
That's just stating a fact. Like the sky is blue or /u/MG87 has the mental capacity of an unborn fetus. Lending credence to the idea that life starts before birth, a sad pathetic life.
1 MG87 2018-01-01
Well I am mostly living in your head rent free
1 MasterLawlz 2018-01-01
Should I bother with the rest at all? I enjoyed the first season too, but stopped in the second one and from what it sounds like, the show has gotten really bad recently
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1 I_DRINK_TO_FORGET 2018-01-01
Correct, don't bother. Just watch kitchen nightmares as it has better actors, writing, and plot.
1 GenitalGesticulation 2018-01-01
Absolute garbage show
1 boyoyoyoyong 2018-01-01
u/Paxxlee I agree, I'm looking forward to the remake of roots where they replace koonta kinta with kennith
1 Ultrashitpost 2018-01-01
And why aren't there whiteys or arabs in the Black Panther?
1 ay_what_up2 2018-01-01
there are
1 nanonan 2018-01-01
Oh, the monsters are, so that makes it ok?
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1 AreYouDeaf 2018-01-01
OH, THE MONSTERS ARE, SO THAT MAKES IT OK?
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oh boy what a classic knee slapper that never gets old. Bots were a mistake
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1 cimarafa 2018-01-01
I mean, I’m pretty sure Brittlesnatch Cucumber’s sidekick is in it.
1 IAintThatGuy 2018-01-01
I wish the remake of roots keeps one thing : OJ Simpson.
1 AnnoysTheGoys 2018-01-01
Is this really what we're calling Polacks now?
1 I_DRINK_TO_FORGET 2018-01-01
This is called using language to appeal to your audience.
Unfortunately polacks are still white and SJWs wont be looking past that
1 AnnoysTheGoys 2018-01-01
ikr?
1 I_DRINK_TO_FORGET 2018-01-01
Jews are also white.
1 AnnoysTheGoys 2018-01-01
(((We're))) shapeshifters. Get it right.
1 ay_what_up2 2018-01-01
wrong
1 cavides 2018-01-01
;-;
1 avistel 2018-01-01
nie płacz, tylko polej -_-
1 cavides 2018-01-01
Nic innego nam nie pozostało. Majo-zagłada nadchodzi!
(。・__・)―且
1 avistel 2018-01-01
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(x . x )
1 cheers_grills 2018-01-01
Majocaust.
1 cavides 2018-01-01
That sounds weird in Polish IMO and the spelling looks like an awkward hybrid that's neither fully Polish nor fully Latin.
1 better_bot 2018-01-01
Debatable.
1 kermit_was_right 2018-01-01
Oh the keks
1 stevemisor 2018-01-01
No the witchers
GET OUT OF HERE YOU HALF MONSTER FREAK
1 neveryousay3 2018-01-01
Lol 400 comments about Geraldinho The Grey.
Ok, so let's talk about the conspiracy by (((The Polish))) to not include PoC's in their game or upcoming tv series.....
There is none, it's a game made by polish develpers, based on a book written by a polish author which was not even that popular or translated outside eastern and central europe, before the 2nd game hit the market. Now I'm not from Poland ( I'm from another part of Mordor). But I'm gonna make a bold statement that when a game developer ( or any other creator) from Central/Eastern Europe/ Balkans etc. creater their product they don't start automatically thinking on how said product would reflect the race relations or political situation in USA.
1 cavides 2018-01-01
It's not particularly popular or well know in Poland either. After the games came out, Sapkowski became our Coelho. An author widely know internationally, but not highly rated nationally.
1 neveryousay3 2018-01-01
I tried to read the first one when it came out im my country, again I believe after the second game ( same with Metro series)....and I found it boring. But hey, I also disliked GoT so I must be an idiot.
1 stevemisor 2018-01-01
Let this be a lesson to everyone in an artistic field
Never succeed
People will want take your work and turning into something far bigger and uncontrollable and will try to shape it to relate to them
god help you if try to make sequel that is not more or less just a "lore book" that exists just give people more settings to RP in
1 MasterLawlz 2018-01-01
I’ve thought of that too, like how many minority filmmakers or actors are pressured to feel the burden of being some kind of representative for their group instead of just, you know, wanting to make movies like everyone else
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1 stevemisor 2018-01-01
One of the developers of Mankind Divided was black and got so PISSED when people claimed his game was "problematic" and "soft" to that he went to fucking KIA to yell at people
https://www.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/3a2fbv/sjws_are_upset_about_deus_ex_human_revolution/cs9d67r/
1 old_grumpy_grandpa 2018-01-01
Lmao those bitches called the game "problematic"?
It could have been a still screen reading "RACISM IS BAD MMMKAY?" and that would have been more subtle.
1 ay_what_up2 2018-01-01
I hope you didn’t write this yourself and this is a copypasta or something
1 cheers_grills 2018-01-01
In books the main casts often visits brothels, so I can't imagine how butthurt SJWs would be.
1 thetarget3 2018-01-01
As you can in Witcher 3. In fact several brothels.
1 -absolutego- 2018-01-01
If there's anything the Witcher saga isn't lacking, it's female characters. Geralt spends like half those books being led around by more powerful, domineering woman. A little girl supplants him as the main character for all intents and purposes after the short story collections. It's like Sapkowski has a femdom fetish or something.
1 stevemisor 2018-01-01
I like the "WHERE DOES TEH AUTHOR SAY THEY WEREN'T BLACK" line of argument. Writers need to start describing every aspect of every character to stop this from happen
"The men entered the room. The first was white, the second was an off shade of white but still white enough to get a cab at night. The third man was black but more of a chocolate. The last man was Asian but was more of south pacific complexion but was a bit light for that area."
1 Masterthrowaway9001 2018-01-01
Flashback to when JK Rowling said that about Hermione and someone tweeted a quote of 'Hermiones white face' or something of the sort that JK Rowling herself had wrote.
1 stevemisor 2018-01-01
I don't even have a problem changing the race of character for an adaption show, it really freshen the character up and can often become the definitive version
Making Nick Fury black in the Ultimate universe made him different and, in many people's eyes, better and let old white Nick Fury go into a different direction allowing us to have both badass Sam Jackson Fury and beaten down old Cold War Fury
Its this stupid ass "IT WAS LORE ALONG" retcons that are annoying
Hermione is white in the books but black in the stage adaptation, both of those are more than fine
1 Masterthrowaway9001 2018-01-01
My point was more the 'le author never said they weren't X race!' That people say when they've never even read the source material. An author claimed their own character that they wrote as white was never said to be white, and it's just so obvious everyone saying this is looking to score diversity points.
I honestly won't care if they make Geralt black, but the reality is that the games, which clearly depict him as white and about the same looking throughout them, are far more popular than the books at this point. Even if it's not done for diversity points, the fans will think it is and nobody will watch it. That's the unfortunate truth.
1 Imgur_Lurker 2018-01-01
As long as it's Idris Elba
1 Pragmatic_Shill 2018-01-01
Adaptation.
1 EternallyMiffed 2018-01-01
Meh, Nick Fury will always be a white haired grizzled looking pipe smoking badass for me. The black Nick Fury only "worked" because Samuel Jackson has been cultivating his personal image as a "bad ass mother fucker" for ages. He basically played as himself.
Nick Fury's archetype as a sort of Snake Pliskin lookin dude is more definitive.
1 die_rattin 2018-01-01
The black Fury predates the movies, though tbf it was designed to look like (and be played by) Jackson anyway.
1 Ultrashitpost 2018-01-01
Sam Jackson worked fine playing himself if he is well-cast. And he was well-cast as Nick Fury.
What bothers me is that people are whining about white-washing while simultaneously justifying shoving diversity hires in everything for no reason whatsoever. Be consistent for God's sake.
1 EternallyMiffed 2018-01-01
They're consistent but the consistency is just "being anti-white". Whatever seems inconsistent on face value when they do it, just ask yourself, "how can this be taken as anti-white", and it suddenly would make a lot more sense.
1 cavides 2018-01-01
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1 Masterthrowaway9001 2018-01-01
That's it. Actually made me sad to see. I have no problem with black Hermione, but that's a picture of an author lying about their own works just to appease a certain group of fans. Why not just say 'Well that was the books, stage adaption is different'.
1 oshnyve 2018-01-01
honestly I'd even buy the interpretation that it's metaphorically white, like "white with fear". in the same way that "a face dark with anger" wouldn't necessarily mean the character was black
1 AshrifSecateur 2018-01-01
Do darker skinned people get white with fear? I don't think I do.
1 oshnyve 2018-01-01
it's just a metaphor that means the blood rushes out of your face. white people don't turn black in the dark with rage example either. in context the character is scared so the "white" description makes more sense as a reference to that than a literal thing to me
1 cheers_grills 2018-01-01
is that a yes or is that a no
1 CultOfCuck 2018-01-01
They do blush, it's just harder to tell. They get blush camo.
1 Gil-Gandel 2018-01-01
nope, doesn't fly. White people go "white" with fear because blood drains out of their face, and with white skin (normally slightly pinkish) this is a noticeable change). You can drain blood out of a black person's face and they won't look white, because... well, you do the math.
1 oshnyve 2018-01-01
like, I never pictured Hermione as anything but white and I guarantee Rowling didn't either, but if I had been reading her as not white and I can't across that sentence I don't think I would read it as meaning anything other than "scared"
1 aqouta 2018-01-01
That's because black people are machines only capable of anger. Or was that bats?
1 Singulaire 2018-01-01
The character was also described as resembling "half a panda" after getting a black eye. Doesn't sound like a metaphor to me, although I'm not a book critic.
1 Imgur_Lurker 2018-01-01
Pushes up glasses
Well akcutally the panda example would be a Simile, Metaphor states something is something else ( Hermione is a Panda) a Simile states that something looks like something else ( Hermione looked like a Panda)
1 Orenda_wave 2018-01-01
To play devil's advocate, you could argue that it was meant to mean scared. Like, the blood has vacated my face because I might be about to get in trouble and I"m Hermione so this is worse than death.
1 Going_up_the_Country 2018-01-01
The proper interpretation is that Hermione was briefly cursed with magical whiteness, as only mayos are cowardly enough to feel fear in such a mundane situation.
1 Pragmatic_Shill 2018-01-01
Adaptation.
1 Gil-Gandel 2018-01-01
Yup, exactly like Rowling's belated grab for the pink pound. Seven books weren't enough to give a credible hint that Dumbledore was gay, she had to resort to Word of God. Hack.
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1 cimarafa 2018-01-01
Yeah she obviously meant it like “white as a sheet” which is an expression I’ve heard some people use, but that mostly only applies to pale skinned people anyway so I guess the point stands.
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1 korri123 2018-01-01
And he also made false teeth
1 almagest 2018-01-01
That boy needs therapy
1 luukjen 2018-01-01
"If you do not explicitly call out every single feature of the characters in your slavic country that means that all of them can be black" It's so fucking stupid. Do these people want to read 200 pages on shades of complexion?
1 fsdgfhk 2018-01-01
tbh, I need to know what race you are before I decide whether to upvote this comment or not.
1 Burnnoticelover 2018-01-01
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1 avistel 2018-01-01
After all this, I hope Sapkowski gets convention-level drunk and opens his mouth about the subject of people telling him how to write his fiction. If his track record is any indication, the resulting couchfainting by these fucks would be glorious.
1 DefiningDefinition 2018-01-01
"It's a fantasy setting. That's why shit that doesn't exist here exists there and shit that exists here, doesn't exist there. You might as well complain that orcs are underrepresented in this book. It's a fictional world where those things just happen to not exist there."
Translation: His ideal fantasy world is populated only by proto-mayos.
1 avistel 2018-01-01
Oh trust me, the content wouldn't be the issue, just the notion of some rando Seppo cunt presuming to retcon a world he spent half his literary career writing. The man has a... forceful personality. Nuff said that every con team in the country eventually learned to keep him away from the drink for the duration of his visit.
1 stevemisor 2018-01-01
He fucking hates it when "OFFICIAL PRODUCTS HE APPROVED" retcon or expand on his shit
I can't imagine what would happen if he came across fan-fiction
1 DefiningDefinition 2018-01-01
And are far more successful than the books they're based on.
1 AnnoysTheGoys 2018-01-01
From what I've read, he probably wouldn't give a fuck as long as he was well paid. And happy it wasn't another video game.
1 avistel 2018-01-01
the circlebroke crowd sure as fuck isn't financing his drinking habit, so that answers that
1 AnnoysTheGoys 2018-01-01
It's Poland. Dude could be drunk all year on the change in my couch cushions.
1 avistel 2018-01-01
It really is the land of endless liver failure. A friend was doing grocery shopping one day and saw an old guy with the biggest ginblossom come into the shop, ask for "two blueberries", and leave with two big bottles of violet metho.
1 avistel 2018-01-01
then again, I'm biased. I'm from Łódź, which is a former textile industry center that fell on hard times after the wall came down. So there's more than the usual amount of misery and unemployment. On the plus side, it's picking itself up slowly but surely (at least i like to think so)
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1 AnnoysTheGoys 2018-01-01
Shit-talking aside, I actually had a great time in Kraków. Pierogi has to be the best street food that's not burritos. Glad to hear Łódź is growing back up.
1 avistel 2018-01-01
Glad to hear it! If you ever visit again, check out the salt mine museum in Wieliczka if you haven't already. Amazing place, and quite close to Krakow.
1 AnnoysTheGoys 2018-01-01
Is that where this is? https://i.imgur.com/CLxgKWq.gif
1 avistel 2018-01-01
lol, I don't know if it's actually operational to any extent.
Here's some shots if you're interested though:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/70/Wieliczka_salt_mine.jpg
https://www.escape2poland.co.uk/images/tour/tour_002/01_medium.jpg
1 cheers_grills 2018-01-01
It's a diffirent place, Wieliczka has actual salt walls (just don't lick them, as they were licked by thousands of people before you).
1 AnnoysTheGoys 2018-01-01
No kinkshaming plz
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1 DefiningDefinition 2018-01-01
Is.
1 DefiningDefinition 2018-01-01
Sapkowski - "I sold the rights to my series to CD Projekt Red for a base sum, because I thought games are stupid and amount to nothing, but now that it's one of the most successful games in history I'm salty that I didn't ask for royalties instead."
Dmitry Glukhovsky: "Dumbass."
1 avistel 2018-01-01
Yeah, he's a bit of a twat. But I like to think he learned from the experience.
1 DefiningDefinition 2018-01-01
The only way we'll know is if he ever writes something else worth reading or turning into a show.
So we'll never know.
1 avistel 2018-01-01
After the Witcher books, he did a historical fiction series based on the Hussite rebellion, which was awesome (Narrenturm, Warriors of God, Lux Perpetua if you're interested) but it hasn't been translated to English yet.
I don't think it ever will be, TBH, even though I'd like if it were. Too nichey.
1 DefiningDefinition 2018-01-01
You read instead of playing the game? Fucking nerd.
1 avistel 2018-01-01
Guilty as charged, yer honor
1 DoubleCheekedUp 2018-01-01
That was dumb given CDPR fucking runs the RPG world now.
1 -absolutego- 2018-01-01
Yeah but if you saw the Witcher 1 you'd be hard pressed to think that they'd be the kings of that market not ten years later.
1 DoubleCheekedUp 2018-01-01
EE was good tho 😡 😡
1 pitaenigma 2018-01-01
I was at a con where they gave him free beer
It was the single best con going experience of my life
1 avistel 2018-01-01
When he sits down and starts talking about random stuff, it's the best. The man has a brilliant patter and he's incredibly erudite. I'm a bit jealous, actually, I've only heard this second hand.
1 pitaenigma 2018-01-01
I was starstruck the whole night, but he was a blast. Brilliant sense of humor, plus it was before Witcher 3 so he hadn't soured on the games yet and he said a lot of good things about them.
1 cimarafa 2018-01-01
Sapkowski is an old miser who hates games, but he’s not a conservative. He dislikes communism but most of the books lean liberal politically, arguably they are even feminist in terms of what they have to say about women. And obviously they’re pretty strongly anti-racist. I doubt he’s going to go on a rant if they add some non white characters into the show.
1 avistel 2018-01-01
"old miser" lol, that's putting it mildly.
You're not wrong about him probably not objecting to PoC representation, but I don't think he'd appreciate someone pushing on him this socrealistic "art should serve the interests of the cause" crap that some Western progressives have seemingly adopted hook, line and sinker.
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1 DefiningDefinition 2018-01-01
I agree, /u/Antisera, you aren't trying, you are.
1 DefiningDefinition 2018-01-01
/u/ThingkingWithPortals American Gods literally has the Ghanaian trickster god Anansi. There's even a show in the works for Anansi Boys.
You're confusing you're ignorance for fact because you think if you haven't seen or heard of it, it must not exist.
Also, Black Panther.
1 ThingkingWithPortals 2018-01-01
Look guys; I didn't start this argument, I'm trying to show these people who got ridiculously angry about something that they completely made up that there are other ways to look at it. And you can't honestly think that those three examples and whatever other examples we can go try and dig out will begin to balance it out.
1 xjapxn 2018-01-01
Your thinking that "balance" is a virtue in and of itself is the root of the problem here. It's not.
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1 xjapxn 2018-01-01
Kiss my ass you highfalutin tin can
1 DoubleCheekedUp 2018-01-01
ok how fucking dare u
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1 Rith2 2018-01-01
Make your own shit, there's so many fucking black directors ask yourself why they haven't made any good movies or t.v. shows about it. It's up to no one but the people who want it to make a movie about the African pantheon
1 DefiningDefinition 2018-01-01
Black directors who could make these films or shows but simply choose not to:
Spike Lee
Tyler Perry
Denzel Washington
The Wayans Brothers
Don Cheadle
Morgan Freeman
John Singleton
Charles Burnett
Robert Townsend
Forest Whitaker
Ice Cube
Bill Duke
Vondie Curtis-Hall
But I guess you could claim Black Americans aren't Black Africans and it makes more sense for an African to write about African lore (because Thor was directed by a Norse Viking, The Mummy was directed by an Egyptian, Hercules was directed by a Roman, oh wait...)
In which case,
Black Africans directors who could make these films or shows but simply choose not to:
Haile Gerima
Med Hondo
Gaston Kaboré
Mahamat-Saleh Haroun
Abderrahmane Sissako
/u/ThingkingWithPortals , Cleverman is literally a show that exists, focusing on the lore of Indigenous Australians and directed by two Aboriginals. So the only reason to get pissy about the lack of visual media involving African folklore is because the Africans and Black Americans are too lazy to make it. Crying about there being too many white people in a show about Slavic folklore is retarded.
Next you'll complain that there's too many Asians and not enough blacks being represented in Drunken Master and Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon.
1 10-15-19-26-32-34-68 2018-01-01
The first part is true. Black Americans aren't Africans. That's like saying Americans with German roots are Germans. It's bullshit.
1 DefiningDefinition 2018-01-01
You can take the Aryan out of Germany...
1 10-15-19-26-32-34-68 2018-01-01
Tell that to actual germans.
Or try telling Irishmen that Irish Americans are real Americans.
Or try telling Italians that Italian American food is Italian food.
Good luck.
1 specterofsandersism 2018-01-01
You do realize that producers don't just conjure up media from thin air right? They need a company and funds. Danny Glover has been trying to make a movie about the Haitian Revolution for years and no one will take it because they demand he have a major white character. In a movie about the most successful black slave revolt in the history of the Americas, Hollywood demands a white protag
1 DefiningDefinition 2018-01-01
Are you saying Haitians are an African myth?
1 ThingkingWithPortals 2018-01-01
Ah yes the classic "they're too lazy it's so easy for them to do" argument. A winner!
Wow you guys, you did it. With some shrewd google searches you convinced me -a white man on the internet- that racism has been cured in the entertainment industry. We can all go back to whatever we were doing before now and feel happy that there is no problem.
1 DefiningDefinition 2018-01-01
When literally every other culture has done it...? Yeah.
The Middle East has Sinbad, Aladdin, 1001 Arabian Nights...
Norway has Troll Hunter
Haiti has I Walked With A Zombie
Germany has Die Nibelungen
Japan has Ghibli Studios
Don't even get me started on India
Welcome to the Woke World, bro.
1 -absolutego- 2018-01-01
I'm going to crack up in 15 years or so when Nollywood is sufficiently developed for Nigerian films to catch on with the western media market and all the salt that will come out of activists like this when it's actual Africans who manage to make good movies exploring their mythology.
Spike Lee's tears alone will make it worthwhile.
1 DefiningDefinition 2018-01-01
It balances out better than your assertion that there are NO shows about African tribal folklore.
You set the goalposts, you don't get to move them the moment the ball I kicked hits the net.
1 ZeitgeistNow 2018-01-01
Balance WHAT out? What is it with you people and these nonsensical obsessions with a false 'balance'? Black people make up only 13% of America's population, yet everything has to be 50/50 white/black? Not how that works, mate.
1 specterofsandersism 2018-01-01
When has Hollywood ever been even close to 50/50? Literally any movie or show with more than 5 black characters immediately becomes a "black" movie.
1 ZeitgeistNow 2018-01-01
Pardon, are you actually trying to start a conversation after you've made it abundantly clear that you'll run off to SLS the second you feel triggered?
Fuck off, loser.
1 snallygaster 2018-01-01
There really should be more media based on African folklore, though. It can get really interesting based on which ethnic group you're looking at.
1 Crowsworth 2018-01-01
Problem is no one wants to touch it. It would be s fucking nuclear bomb that will only end in boycotting and letter bombs, extreme lefties would just be frothing at the first whiff of an error.
1 DefiningDefinition 2018-01-01
Unless their heroes Niel Gaiman or Chuck Palahniuk are involved. Beacuse
Call a gay man racist is homophobic
Amanda Palmer would never marry a racist righty
1 serialflamingo 2018-01-01
What? There's like a bajillion takes dedicated to calling out gay men as uniquely racist.
1 DefiningDefinition 2018-01-01
And they're all homophobic.
1 specterofsandersism 2018-01-01
White gays are frequently racist. Disagreeing with this is frowned upon on the left, not the other way around. Your strawmans are hilariously bad
1 IAmWithName 2018-01-01
You think there's a limit to whom they'll throw under the bus?
Also I thought they hated Fight Club, due to it being about men and their problems.
1 DefiningDefinition 2018-01-01
The main character has a gay crush on Tyler in the book, so it's empowering and Hollywood straightwashed it.
1 specterofsandersism 2018-01-01
Really? Is that the problem? That people don't want to touch it because of muh Es Jay Dubs?
Danny Glover has been trying to make a movie about the Haitian Revolution for years and no one will take it because they demand he have a major white character. In a movie about the most successful black slave revolt in the history of the Americas, Hollywood demands a white protag
And that isn't even mythology, it's straight up history. So stop scapegoating SJWs.
1 DefiningDefinition 2018-01-01
There's already plenty of that shit.
1 _Belch_ 2018-01-01
Why can't blacks make their own shit?
1 Masterthrowaway9001 2018-01-01
Olfir has the Witcher's versions of Arabics (in terms of physical traits). The Witcher games add a ton of lore that isn't present in the books. I really doubt anyone would complain much if mayo Geralt went to another far away land, either new or old, where the people weren't white.
I'd like to see a single person who genuinely believes there wouldn't be outrage if a character who has been traditionally black was replaced with a mayo. SRDines would implode.
1 PracticalOnions 2018-01-01
The Vizimans are also supposed to be the “Spanish” of the world so they’re naturally a bit more tanned than the other Northerners.
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1 thetarget3 2018-01-01
It would be awesome if Geralt went to Zerrikania imo. Just don't shoehorn coloured people into the Northern Kingdoms to reflect American racial sensibilities.
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1 rockidol 2018-01-01
Anyone who votes for Trump because of this bullshit culture war stuff is an idiot.
Trump can't actually stop any of this from happening. He can't make people say Merry Christmas, he can't stop people from writing racist editorials about how every show needs non-whites in it or whatever.
1 Going_up_the_Country 2018-01-01
Yeah but he can tweet retardedly about it, which is funny.
1 rockidol 2018-01-01
He could do that even if he wasn’t president
1 thetarget3 2018-01-01
It wouldn't be as funny though.
1 Going_up_the_Country 2018-01-01
Yeah but he can tweet retardedly about it, which is funny.
1 Ace4929 2018-01-01
What he can do is not be these people, which is something that his opponents are frequently incapable of
1 rockidol 2018-01-01
When did Bernie or Hillary ever act like those people?
1 Ace4929 2018-01-01
You’re kidding me right? Bernie and Hillary are like the platonic ideal of these people
1 rockidol 2018-01-01
I don’t remember them ever mentioning white privilege or talking about diversity or cultural appropriation ever.
1 Ace4929 2018-01-01
https://youtu.be/z6IlGoeDIUQ
1 old_grumpy_grandpa 2018-01-01
"White people will never know what it's like to be poor" -Bernie Sanders
Hilary had the whole war on Pepe
1 CirqueDuFuder 2018-01-01
Posted by debate every Nazi 🤔🤔🤔
1 luukjen 2018-01-01
They simply cannot understand that not every single piece of fiction with white people in it has to reflect the problems in their shitty fucking society. If the Witcher was based on Japan or something like that you would hear none of this noise.
1 Strange_matter 2018-01-01
Well, being weeb shit didn’t help Death Note at all.
1 SwankDogsbody 2018-01-01
It's white peoples' fault for liking Death Note to warrant a western adaptation.
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1 specterofsandersism 2018-01-01
Nice historical revisionism, nerd
1 CondeTrocola 2018-01-01
I still don't get why a Polish product should cater to American racial issues.
1 cavides 2018-01-01
By their logic, manga and anime should be racially diverse too, because millions of weebs exist and buy lots of Asian shit.
1 oshnyve 2018-01-01
isn't this the exact opposite of the shitstorm surrounding Scarlett Johansson in ghost in the shell? a character's race is changed to appeal to American audiences?
1 cavides 2018-01-01
Yeah, they are being hypocritical. It's just about making that fantasy world less white. The rationalizations seem internally contradictory. They wouldn't do this to a story that is majority POC to begin with. They are not complaining that the upcoming Black Panther movie is too homogeneous.
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1 The_Reason_Trump_Won 2018-01-01
The funny thing with GiTs and the major is her racial appearance is literally irrelevant, she's a full body cyborg. I'm not sure why almost no one complained batou was white at the same time lmao. There's also no complaints about one of the japanese guys being black lol
1 TheTassieDevil 2018-01-01
The Gus's creator said exactly that.
1 gumble212 2018-01-01
The real problem with the live-action GiTS is that it was shit
1 DeathBahamutXXX 2018-01-01
Actually they shit on the One Piece Manga and Anime due to "Lack of PoCs"
1 cavides 2018-01-01
Yeah, but they were asking for a greater variety of POC races, not for the inclusion of white people, right? My point is that their idea of diversity isn't truly diverse because it doesn't include white people. They would want a homogeneously white world to include POC, but never seem to ask for more white representation in homogeneously POC fictional worlds.
1 DeathBahamutXXX 2018-01-01
I just thought it was funny that a fiction set in an Asian world with Asian characters needs more muslims, blacks and hispanics. I saw a couple of pieces of "fan art" called "PoC Piece" where they pretty much got rid of everyone who could have been asian or white.
1 KingNothing305 2018-01-01
There's black people in One Piece
1 DeathBahamutXXX 2018-01-01
I don't watch or read it. I just saw people bitching about it online saying there wasn't enough PoCs and that the main cast should be mostly PoCs and since it's manga I assumed the main cast was based on Japanese people so I thought it was funny.
1 KingNothing305 2018-01-01
Well my comment was just a joke. I do read it and the cast really isnt Japanese or even Asian looking. Granted thats due to the cartoony art style. I do find it odd that these retards want more races in One Piece when that world actually has different races, animal people, mermaids, fairies and dwarves
1 DeathBahamutXXX 2018-01-01
It's virtue signaling at its finest. They find something they enjoy. A movie, book, TV series, comic/manga, etc and then have to bemoan to their SWJ friends how much better the entertainment would be if there were more PoC, LGBT, Disabled and religious minorities.
1 aqouta 2018-01-01
The main cast is actually almost entirely cartoons.
1 Pepperglue 2018-01-01
Yeah, people shit on it because it sucks.
1 DeathBahamutXXX 2018-01-01
For all the weeb shit I enjoy I really don't have a dog in the fight. I just enjoy watching American SJWs telling a 99% Japanese ethnostate that they don't have enough brown, muslim, gay and trans in their entertainment,
1 Pepperglue 2018-01-01
They sure have pretty weird priorities. Given Japan's ethnicity makeup, I think Japan is doing pretty well.
Mostly Japanese, with some sprinkles of Chinese, Korean, Okinawan, and Ainu in the mix. That is what I usually see in their entertainment media when the stage is set in Japan.
1 cimarafa 2018-01-01
Isn’t it the Americans making the show?
1 CondeTrocola 2018-01-01
Yeah, but it's a saga which gets a lot from Slavic and European fantasy (which is usually based on mithology). Nobody denies that Europe had people of colour, be slaves, merchants, etc.
Personally I think it's their representation, not America's. Poland is a country where people of colour are rare. It's obvious that their representation of those people would be tangential. There's no problem adding people of colour. But they would be secondary or extra characters. Making one main would be, imho, shoehorning. It makes sense to an SRDine, not to a Polish Sapkowski fan from the countryside.
This overrepresentation (representation is needed, but not everywhere and everytime) fad is pretty American centric. Not all Western media is intended to represent you or your people. That doesn't make it intrinsically racist, it makes them varied, and more interesting. Nobody bats an eye at Korean, Japanese or Chinese movies with no white people. Well, they have their immigrant populations too.
tbh I'd like to see a Geralt de Rivia thingy with minorities but actually drawing from African tribes or Haitian with voodoo and all that shit. Kinda like Black Panther.
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1 Unfunny_Twat 2018-01-01
Real talk,
I'm really fucking tired of the forced diversity shit. I'm Asian and I give zero fucks if a movie/show had all white people, in fact my favourite movies are the Godfather and Star Wars sequels and almost everyone is white in those. My most loved game is also GTA San Andreas, which stars a black man.
I mean if people on Reddit want to complain about a lack of diversity because they want to see more people of other race, that's fine. But if they are complaining because they feel that there is an injustice that they must correct, then please kindly fuck off because I never asked for you to stand up for me. I can do it myself if I want to.
1 gumble212 2018-01-01
The other point is just because there weren't many "people of colour" doesn't mean there were no "minorities" or ethnic conflict in medieval Poland. Just because by modern American racial standards the people would all (for the most part) be considered white doesn't mean that the various ethnicities of the PLC viewed themselves as all the same.
American liberals act like they're so worldly but really they're just as clueless as any other burger.
1 Singulaire 2018-01-01
That's just it. The Witcher series has a lot of ethnic conflict, but it's mostly between groups with pale-skins, so ethnocentric Americans think of them as indistinguishable.
1 gumble212 2018-01-01
but if the world isn't like America I don't understand :cry:
1 CondeTrocola 2018-01-01
t. /r/circlebroke2
1 -absolutego- 2018-01-01
It's not like the genre has been famous for using fantasy races like elves as a proxy for real-world racial issues ever since Tolkein or anything. If it's not literally an oppressed group of brown people being lorded over by haughty whites then it's too subtle for their minds to grasp.
Fucking slacktivists not knowing basic aspects of the hobby they're trying to colonize smdh.
1 cheers_grills 2018-01-01
Not true, I see one at least once per month or two.
1 CondeTrocola 2018-01-01
As opposed to other European countries? Yes.
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1 specterofsandersism 2018-01-01
literally invents race
"Racism is an American issue"
JustEuropeanThings
1 CondeTrocola 2018-01-01
Having a reading comprehension of a child
#JustAmericanThing§
1 t3hryan 2018-01-01
Pls no ruin Witcher, Netflix.
1 better_bot 2018-01-01
If Witcher fans can't ruin it no one can.
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1 darth_stroyer 2018-01-01
Honestly the most retarded fucking opinion on the planet.
1 MG87 2018-01-01
Or at the very least in The Witcher 4: Awwww Heeeeeeeeeeeeelll Naw
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1 MG87 2018-01-01
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1 starship_litterbox 2018-01-01
WE wuz FOLK LORE N shiEeetTT
1 pizzashill 2018-01-01
I really wish people would stop falling into the SJW trap and engaging with them on subjects like this.
Hint: they don't believe a single fucking thing they say. The entire point of modern SJWism is to signal how good you are to other SJWs.
https://www.vox.com/2015/6/3/8706323/college-professor-afraid
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1 Samael_7 2018-01-01
My bad. Lol
Didn't think it'd cause such a shitstorm to say Europe was more or less predominantly white in the Middle Ages.
1 Ace4929 2018-01-01
We wuz knights n sheit
1 Rith2 2018-01-01
Then how would I shitpost @ u lmao XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
1 specterofsandersism 2018-01-01
People of color: Hey stop murdering us
Whites: STOP VIRTUE SIGNALLING
1 zergling_Lester 2018-01-01
More like
People of color: Hey stop murdering us
Whites: also, it's really important that we put colored characters in vidya gaems. STOP CALLING ME VIRTUE SIGNALING YOU'RE VIRTUE SIGNALING!
1 specterofsandersism 2018-01-01
This erases the presence of non white people in the gaming industry
1 zergling_Lester 2018-01-01
Oh noes, not the presence of non white people in the gaming culture, it's basically the same as when the cops erased the presence of Eric Garner in the land of the living.
Look buddy, idk how you did that, but you managed to find the single worst opportunity to virtue signal about people misusing the notion of virtue signaling. Not only that shit is in fact pure virtue signaling, but also even the coloreds who are privileged enough to be concerned about that shit are therefore honorary whites and will get the bullet too.
1 avistel 2018-01-01
Spierdalaj na drzewo, czerwona szmato. We've had our fill of your kind for 50 years. No more.
1 Rith2 2018-01-01
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Why are you blackwashing the poor polish, do you not realize there history has so much strife. Smfh, you ain't woke, Becky.
1 cheers_grills 2018-01-01
Being invaded is necessary for any polish story.
1 starship_litterbox 2018-01-01
DeShawn the Elf Lord gazed upon his torturer with eyes reddened by his hare for all tree-beings. "Ayo, I's gettin' tied uh all dis, you know where you at righ, nah? You in MY hood, homie."
Just then, Alejandro the Queer Wizard broke through the canopy of the forest and slammed into the ground, kneeling at the feet of the great tree being A'Zhatigein. Xe peered up at the oppressor with a grin. "Ola senior. You have foo' stam' allication?"
1 _Belch_ 2018-01-01
Nothing more pathetic than affirmative action in the arts.
1 -huitzilopochtli- 2018-01-01
fucking neck yourself
1 Gothmog26 2018-01-01
I assume the blacks are staying as far away as possible from weird cursed Poland.
1 allendrio 2018-01-01
Fucks sake i dont care either way it just makes no sense lorewise ITS A SWAMPLAND IN THE MIDDLE OF A WAR WHERE THEY KILL PEOPLE FOR HAVING POINTY EARS the nearest source of black people canoically is a fucking area on the map marked ''here be dragons'' why the fuck would anyone from there be hanging around and not be lynched already by retarded peasants who literally burn women alive for growing herbs.
1 -absolutego- 2018-01-01
You have to love the sheer myopic audacity of saying "your game's dystopian medieval hellhole currently being invaded by fantasy Austrians isn't butchering enough brown people along with all the mayos".
1 WorldStarCroCop 2018-01-01
All games should give you the opportunity of importing blacks via ship for money. Then diversity would finally be solved.
1 Going_up_the_Country 2018-01-01
People of colour have gone through enough, you really want to stick them in Poland?
1 Maggot_Pie 2018-01-01
What's worse is that, as you can see by digging in the comments of the witcher subreddit (and not in SRD masturbating each other with upboots), the witcher universe CANONICALLY HAS brown people, who are good alchemists, have good taste in flowers, and certainly do not shit in the mud like the white nordlings do.
1 thetarget3 2018-01-01
Indeed, there are plenty of reasonable ways you can add brown people if you want. But they'll probably just end up having Geralt played by Idris Elba instead.
1 morthond 2018-01-01
Never knew Poles were considered oppressed. Can I cash in my Polish heritage for some sweet oppression points?