Can Dan Harmon, whose crimes include Pickle Rick and being a Male Feminist, be forgiven? The top minds of /r/Menslib discuss.

118  2018-01-12 by Thhueros

131 comments

WHY

it's from the episode

which actually ain't bad, turns out

You mean aside from the self-insert Asian avatar of one of the feminist writers?

The psychiatrist was Asian? I thought she was the best part actually.

>character literally named Dr. Wong

>feminist writer on that episode was named Gao

>self-insert talks down to super genius and beat him up with teh logics

>"good episode"

yeah I don't remember her name lol, I saw it right after it came out. but i just remembered beth saying her name was "racist" come to think of it, that was pretty good too.

I thought the way they paced her analyses and how the characters reacted to them was funny, and it also was refreshing to have someone with a different outlook from Rick have a clear picture of what's going on. She would get old fast if she was recurring, but it's a nice change of pace to have character development occur outside of a crisis, and group therapy is a really effective device for that.

talks down to super genius and beat him up with teh logics

exactly this. I'd been waiting two seasons for that shit dude, Rick's insufferable. the fact that it came right after he delivered one of his "feelings are gay" speeches made it that much better too, because I was expecting him to waltz out right there.

This is your brain on R&Mposting.

rat limbs are too hard to work with so he had to use raccoon limbs

its ok though he found a baby changing mat to keep it on and he has air fresheners so it wont stink when he props it up next to all his other figures

He definitely doesn't come off as a predator attempting to cover his tracks, but someone who is truly remorseful and wanting to change, with his admission being a big step.

I agree, u/CabinBoyBlue, it's okay when the creator of the finest television program to grace a screen does it.

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To be fair, you have to have a really high iq to understand why it's okay when Dan Harmon harasses people sexually.

It's obvious that he's a predator in hiding. It's built into his very genes, the same chromosomes which led to his pale skin colour.

Anyways, does this mean that R&M is going to get cancelled?

Hope so

I love the show, but hate it's creators, fanbase, and myself for liking it.

R&M getting cancelled over a sexual harassment claim would be the biggest thing for drama since gaymore-gate

wait, so then why wasn't it ok when Louie did it?

...oh right the coming forward thing

I really don't get the Louis thing. He jerked off in front of a couple women who went up to his hotel room at 2 am, sober, and only after asking for permission to do it.

Only thing he did wrong was apologize.

Like I said earlier this week. Women don't say a goddamn thing they really mean but are so fucking stupid they actually don't realize this. So you should realize just because they say they want to see your penis doesn't mean it's true

Like when Ross screwed a woman when him and Ross were on a break which Rachel initiated because she wanted to fuck some dude, everyone knew Ross was at fault because Ross was a sociopath who didn't realize Rachel was a woman and therefore too stupid to realize she didn't actually want Ross to cheat on her

in all seriousness (gross, I know), at least one of those women was basically trapped, from how she tells it.

not "trapped" like "I don't actually feel like blowing Aziz Ansari," trapped like "Louis C.K., you're not just making this awkward, you're in front of the door"

he also mistakenly apologized for a groping incident we never heard about, so

I think Dan Harmon is one of the very few famous, successful millionaires that I don’t envy.

How can you get rich doing what you love and create some of the most popular shows on TV yet still be such an unhappy person?

It's easy: You don't want to admit that you're piece of shit, so you project your shittiness onto everything around you.

It's easy: You don't want to admit that you're piece of shit, so you project your shittiness onto everything around you.

All of political reddit.

Hey now /r/politics isn't an ANTEEFA! Playground at all.

It's easy: You don't want to admit that you're piece of shit, so you project your shittiness onto everything around you.

All of reddit.

Ftfy

He then threw the female writers for season 3 off a glass cliff to shield himself from criticism.

literally all male feminists

Depression

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You think that's bad, take a look at our top mod /u/xNotch

Nah, Notch is so bloody rich that even if he does hate his life, I still kinda envy him

What makes you think he hates his life?

Lol I don't know if he does, we mostly just joke about it just because he's a billionaire and spends so much time shitposting on twitter

I think he's more of a jolly nordic troll. Giggling to himself as he shitposts from his icecastle. Not the life I'd live but I understand how someone could enjoy living like that.

He lives in Beverley Hills.

literally why

That is a legitimate question. It's not like he likes those sort of LA people, if I were him I would just build a massive house in some fly over area of the world. Employ someone to get his stuff for him. He could build his own town or hire cooks to make him his favorite fast food meals and gas station snacks

he lives there because he needed outbid jay-z for the mansion

beverley hills is one of the last places id ever choose to live in america but if my living there meant cucking sean fucking carter id do it in an instant

i dunno man if i suddenly got 2 billion dollars i dont think id start doing a bunch of stuff i wasnt interested in before, id just start getting expensive versions of shit i liked and wasting free time because who cares anymore

Yes, but that is because you are literally retarded.

would you go out of your way to do rich guy stuff just because? for me money is a means to an end and making a big deal out of it because you think thats what youre supposed to do smacks of insecurity tbh

whereas notch clearly doesnt give a fuck

id be even lazier than i am now because i could afford to be, i thought that was the point

I have all sorts of shit I would love to do but cannot for all sorts of reasons. Infinite money (and, really, an infinite amount of discretionary time) would mean I could do them.

You would have to be completely empty of any kinds of goals or aspirations if a billion dollars would not change your life in a meaningful way.

What would you do though?

I would travel a lot and get a state of the art home theater system but that's about it. Sports cars aren't worth the money imo and I would rather get a really nice apartment in New York than a mansion just because that would just be a full-time job to maintain.

Lmao. Americans can only think of buying shit. What would I do? Travel. Collect a bunch of experiences that would otherwise be impossible because real life would interfere.

You are all pathetic.

Cars? Travel? Hookers?

A billion dollars could fund a research center that could fucking cure a disease.

Put 50MM into 10 companies who need VC money, one might change the world.

Buy a huge stretch of wilderness and make it protected.

Try experiments with poverty alleviation by giving direct dollar transfers to the very poor.

Help Bill Gates with his Malaria eradication and that blindness causing river worm

Invest $500MM in SpaceX so we can really go to Mars.

Bestow a huge endowment on a pure physics lab. We can't reconcile behavior at the quantum scale with behavior at the macro scale. "Dark energy" and "Dark matter" supposedly make up 90% of the universe, because our calculations don't work unless we add them in. So they're probably bullshit, and let's get some physicists on it.

Do a big and systematic ocean exploration. We've only explored 10%, with a bunch of money and drones I think $500MM could go a long way.

I know we joke about being horrible people, but this is the first time I am legitimately ashamed of this sub and it hurts. Shame on you /u/ComedicSans and /u/MasterLawlz for being actually lazy and selfish and not in an ironic way.

For shame.

Where do you think you are?!

On the other hand, that'd be a lot of cocaine and hookers.

I'd build my dream woodworking shop and do cocaine and hookers in it

I would rather get a really nice apartment in New York than a mansion just because that would just be a full-time job to maintain.

lmao have you never heard of servants? because thats what servants are for

that said id probably just have apartments/penthouses in the major cities too because i really dont care about looking like an "aristocrat," i just wanna have a pad i know i can crash at wherever i feel like partying

Yeah I would personally not want a bunch of servants in my house all the time, there would be less privacy and I would be worried they might steal things

I would get a huge boat and fill it with cocaine and titties.

Anyone who wouldn't doesn't deserve to live. Even if they aren't white.

this is i think the second time ever you have been entirely right, congrats

pretty sure im always right actually

If I got rich, I wouldn’t stop shitposting. I’d just shitpost from my private helicopter taking me to my private jet that will take me to my private chateau.

his posting habits and the online circles they reflect

You are in one of them right now.

Yes, exactly. So I think I know what I'm talking about here.

If you post here, that is a lie

https://www.geekwire.com/2015/minecrafts-notch-vents-on-twitter-about-feeling-isolated-gets-stung-by-jellyfish-does-not-find-god/

notch makes getting billions of dollars look as emotionally appealing as getting your nose punched in he's basically a tankie icon

I can kinda empathize with him. I'm not saying his problems are in any way equivalent to poor people's problems but it would be weird to be retired before you hit 40. Even with a billion dollars, I have no idea how I would occupy the next fifty years of my life lol.

Tbh, if I was filthy rich I would still get a part-time cashier job or something just to kill time and get me out of the house.

Idk, there's a ton of things to do if you're rich and bored. Travel? Ridiculously fun hobbies no one else can afford? The means to do whatever passion projects you want? Be politically involved? Volunteer? I volunteer at a food rescue/ job training place and the majority of the regular volunteers are early retirees. I'm sure dude struggles with disenfranchisement and I know he's p charitable but I kinda cringe when he comes on here and does the "all I do is twitch all day... sold my life's work to the highest bidder </3" act.

u/Xnotch

I have an idea.

Buy a small island

Build a bunch of structures

Pepper it with go-karts, ultralights, and guns loaded with simmunition

Invite 50 of your closest friends

PUBG_IRL

the bjork model of wealth

fair

i just dont get how he can be as bitter as he is

How long does it take for success to transform a dweeb into a real person?

escitalopram

Honestly, if I was that pathetic, I'd be pretty unhappy too.

So much autism pasta in that thread:

I watched Devilman: Crybaby. I liked it a lot. And I can tell you, with the utmost sincerity and tact, that comparing an ultra violent and sexually graphic anime featuring a man with a literal demon inside him who kills and dismembers other demons to a comedy writer sexually harassing his female colleague and feeling guilty about it does a ludicrously large disservice to the situation at hand. There are times when it is appropriate to compare fictional works to real life. This is not one of those times and Devilman is not one of those fictional works, ESPECIALLY not here. The fact that you could and did make such a comparison boggles the mind.

If that is all you got out of that show no wonder you find my comparison mind-boggling. I very strongly disagree with you and believe Devilman made the sort of statement that is very in line with comparisons to real life, ESPECIALLY now, and ESPECIALLY here. Since you seem unwilling to look at all beneath the surface, let me try and explain.

Devilman is a story at its base not about a man with a demon inside him ripping apart other demons, but a man with a demon inside of him who chooses to fight for a better reality, for humanity, in despite of it.

I think Dan Harmon is a perfect parallel to Devilman because the the divide on his motivations for coming forward I think are perfectly expressed in that show and I think Miki shows us that the only real way to unity and victory is to take the risk and believe he is being earnest until he shows otherwise, as it will inspire others to come forward, maybe not tomorrow, but mark my words I believe the response shown by Ganz in this case is going to be the kind of thing that changes the world, not hiding in our fears that he is just doing it out of guilt or because he got caught but believing that people want to be better.

imagine...being these people.

Guess your IQ isn't high enough to appreciate it

You got me :(

Ignoring all the other problems with that comment, basic struggle with yourself is part of every story ever and this shitty anime isn't unique at all. From that little information, it sounds like the exact same plot as Skyrim for instance but much less interesting

lol

Skyrim

""plot""

Says a lot about this shitty anime that it's plot is worse than Skyrim

I'm surprised they didn't use harry potter for once since he's also one of them ''demon inside™''

Did Harmon really compare himself to an animu? I knew the guy was a fucking weirdo, but really?

No, it was one of the autismos in that thread that brought it up.

I couldn't make it through the thread. The posts were way too long to basically say "Dan Harmon is a brave man for apologizing for being a creepy weirdo, but we shouldn't praise him for it. But he definitely sets a good example for all the other male feminists."

Oh, i didn't fucking read it, I just ctrl-f'd after your comment, as I didn't see that in the original article. /r/menslib is a fucking wasteland.

Well aren't you just fancy with computers...

tfw my 40 year old mango is now popular with all the young weebs

Th-thanks, Netflix.

Gas the weebs tbqh

The part that I will never get is that the people freaking out on these things typically already hated the person in question, so why does anyone pay any attention because the end result should theoretically be nothing has changed

Because they don't really hate the person, they are only supposed to hate the person because of how problematic Rick and Morty is.

let's not forget that they want praise and confirmation that they're adhering to the REAL word of god, as opposed to all the filthy heretics who will be the first up against the wall when the revolution comes.

well, there were a lot of people who stopped liking Kevin Spacey.

they only got mopey about Louis C.K. though, appropriately

Well one likes to jerk off, one rapes underage children.

that's why it's appropriate!

i thought it was only half-heartedly attempted rape though. i don't remember who did what anymore

I believe Harmon is the "really wanted to bone one of his employees" guy. Which is kinda 50/50; his behavior as described is certainly inappropriate, but it's iffy as to whether people will care enough to hate him for it.

they'll forget about it in a month then

Probably. I have to imagine at least a few "Rick & Morty" viewers know what it's like to act like a horny teenage retard in front of a woman.

>not getting the bussy when its still fresh

There is no correct way to apologize to these people, so the lesson is, don't do it at all.

I'm sorry for calling you a fucking idiot. I shoud have known better. It wont happen again.

Man lectures other men on the evils of misogyny, turns out to have issues with women. What a fucking shock.

I knew he was a shithead when, rather than take responsibility for the weakness of Season 3 himself, he hid behind the skirts of his female writers and blamed all criticism on sexism.

His show is half-shit anyway. It wants to be Venture Bros. so fucking bad, only with late 80s and early 90s references instead of 60s and 70s references, but it's just not half as clever.

i thought Rick and Morty was going more for a 70s/80s thing

...which I guess Venture Bros. did too, G.I. Joe and all that

Venture Bros is so good.

Male Feminists: not even once.

Why does anyone care? Liver failure is going to hit before season 4.

Roiland's the real brains anyway, all Harmon brings is like sophomore-year film school shit

No, Roiland's all puerile toilet humor and forced edgyness and wow-look-at-me-im-so-weird

i think roiland is really a very funny improviser, it's just that he would produce a terrrrrrible show on his own (for evidence go watch his old cosby house content; it's somehow both funny and hard to watch more than 2 minutes of)

which is the real genius of the show. everything else is just filler

Why do people care so much about the personal lives of some autistic cartoon maker? Don't they have like people in their lives to care about? Why do they have to deify celebrities like this?

deifying celebrities has been our entire culture since the late 40s dude

It's definitely gotten worse over time though.

I did a tour of LA once and we drove by Lucille Ball's house and it was, well....a house. A nice house, but a normal place to live with a yard and stuff. Nowadays, modern celebrities like Tom Cruise have to live in fortresses where everything is covered by trees or walls and all you can see is their door. It's the only way he can get any privacy at all.

wasn't Rocky Balboa's life like that

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because hes a big preachy feminist and its funny to rub his face in it

He sexually harassed a woman and doesn't deserve a job. Who knows what other abuse has been covered up after all his meltdowns against McDonald's cashiers on Twitter. Anyone who defends him is a rape apologist I can guarantee that.

Yeah but Picke Rick tho

fucking duh im pretty sure i said he was going to be a rapist months ago

around the time he was getting heaps angry talking about hiring women writers incidentally

I thought it was Zizek from the thumbnail.

Thees is ideology in its purest form. sniffs

TL;DR

dan harmon raped

from what i understand he basically said "sorry i was horny lol cant help it, am man".

/r/MensLib top minds

More like bottoms, amirite

So on the /r/menslib and /r/circlebroke2 crowd, being a fan of Rick and Morty sucks because the show is problematic, but being a fan of the actual self confessed sex offender behind it is totally fine? This is your brain on soy.

Dan Harmon:

Spencer's account got suspended because after 48 hours of blocking gamergaters he started telling them to kill themselves. #SocialJustice

Twitter engineer:

@DustinMartian @danharmon DM me. We'll get it fixed.

Every time. I used to think the antiGG/sexual misconduct thing was just a few cherrypicked cases.

u/SOCIAL_JUSTICE_NPC has definitely raped at least one woman, if not more.

The guy went through a nasty divorce with his wife, then hired all female writers for Rick and Morty.

I fully expect within the next 2 years for him to be #Metooted

Bold prediction considering it’s already happened.

Megan Ganz was totally the best writer on community though.

But it does get tiring to see people praising all of these men for demonstrating the cowardice of a child caught with their hand in the cookie jar.

Off topic, but are cookie jars really a thing? Do people actually store cookies in jars? Why? Don't they crumble? Why do you need a jar for cookies? Why do you have so many cookies so frequently that you need a jar to store them in?

I think their origins go back to storing tea biscuits, probably 200+ years ago. Presumably you'd want to have them on hand somewhat regularly, and you wouldn't want mice and bugs to get into them.

Nowadays, I doubt anyone uses them for any practical purpose; it's probably just the novelty factor.

smh. Imagine growing up not knowing the joys of scaling the fridge to raid the cookie jar.

We had ours on the counter. It's purpose was obviously to be bait.

Hahaha

Pickle Rick is unforgivable tbqfh

Dan Harmon looks like a mix between Randy from My Name Is Earl and Steven Avery.