Lmao imagine being so humorless that not only do you not understand certain types of humor, but you actively seek and destroy humor elsewhere that you don't understand. src
because the whites have hundreds of years of commercial agriculture ingrained in their culture, while the blacks are being misled by a corrupt socialist government into thinking money and wealth will magically be created by taking it from whitey
lol I was going to ask "then who's left?" but I think I know (((who)))
oh and riceboys, pajeets, and cholos I guess, somebody has to make their computers, someone has to be tech support, and those toilets ain't gonna clean themselves
/u/JebusGobson isn't this counter to your argument about Istanbul being returned to the Greeks? Istanbul was forcefully turkified with ethnic cleansing and forced assimilation, how is that any different than America or Australia?
He said to Arathian that it's different because most of the people currently living in Istanbul are Turks so it would be wrong to push them out. I'm not sure why that same logic isn't also applied to the US and Australia (oh wait, yes I do, it's because /u/JebusGobson is a virtue signaling leftist faggot who hates white people).
So I guess the lesson here is that if you want to seize land you should try to genocide as many of the natives as possible, ideally eradicating them completely.
That doesn't count because there's no appreciatable difference between Turks and Greeks anyway. Could anyone even tell them apart? Aside from the fact that Turks have better personal hygiene, ofc
I'm sorry guys I can't do this. I know getting people to come into a thread and then insulting them is like the only thing r/drama has but I'm just not up to it. I'm not cut out for this. Jebus I'm sorry Flanders was a classic character in the Simpson who was integral to the show. He always made me laugh with his polite charm and his dorkiness. Can you forgive me?
Wait, is that /u/JebusGobson completely dismissing most of the comment so he can focus on one small piece, blow it out of proportion and move the goalposts? Who'd have guessed?? And of course snally is schooling the kid while being the polite, shining beacon of what dramanauts could never hope to be. Praise b snally.
I do think if youre gonna talk trash online you should use your main but too many power user lusers worried about their mod status would disagree with me.
really violates the sanctity of r/drama but lusers gonna luse.
Like, do you think that all these people you don't recognize still talk respectably and politely to Jebus and you on their mains (that you do recognize), but use alts to talk shit to you?
What I'm suggesting is that maybe you should make a difference between an alt and a new main, and then all the new-old faces is just you getting old and out of touch.
I only use this account and I'm banned on like 20 different boards. I only care enough to make an alt when I'm too drunk to remember the name or password the next day anyways.
The National Forest land in my home state of Idaho is 3x bigger than Belgium. I can't bring myself to care about it except for the Nutella and strawberry waffles the little shops sell in Brussels for 3 Euros.
The Netherlands and Belgium are really just the outcome of the Wars of Religion and the Protestant Reformation, even though both were formed in the 19th century. Its all about separating Catholics from Proties. No one likes to talk about that now seeing as how low Germans are all Atheist sinners into polygamy and euthanasia.
Wow, do you think they ever got around to exporting that to other countries so that they could make money from the other 99% of the world that doesn't live in Italy?
They expect illegal land occupation and rights violations to be prevented in this scenario, but the protection of property rights in SA to diminish, as well as investment in agriculture.
In the view of the researchers, this scenario also gives rise to the agricultural, financial and agro-processing sectors being the biggest losers in terms of production, exports and employment.
Although they regard this second scenario as slightly better than the land grab scenario, they see it as negative from an economic point of view.
This is because they expect the reduced recognition of property rights in this scenario to lead to disinvestment and a gradual decline in the agricultural, agro-processing and financial sectors.
/u/JebusGobson your insults are dumb and so are you. Economists agree this is a bad idea, please go tell this colonialist
“Yeah, because black people are too stupid and lazy to work a farm, right” out your disgusting mayo monster, ignorant patronizing ass you hack of a mod and human being. Then delete your account.
Remember when Venezuela nationalized it’s oil industry kicking out all the multinational conglomerates and with it all its expertise? That really worked out well for them.
JebusGobson: Do you think there's no black people with relevant training, or education?
snally: ...no? That's why I qualified my statement with 'primarily'. 'Primarily' as in once the white farmers are ousted, there aren't going to be nearly enough farmers to produce the food the country needs because there aren't enough black commercial farmers. Not that there are no black commercial farmers.
I mean, I of course support the home team (snally). But why would you try to make a nuanced argument in a space like SRD? People like that are just suffering from a compulsive fixation on callout culture.
Can we please sign some sort of international contract that says when South Africa inevitably fails and destroys its fertile farmland they cannot enter any white countries? It only seems fair.
Obviously fake, I would never be rude to a woman. If a women gives constructive critique, a man's place is to shut up and LISTEN. Something we've reneged on doing for way too long.
Yeah because look at all those famines that happened everywhere after decolonisation, right? Blacks can't have the farms man, they need whitey to make food for them because obviously they can't do it themselves right?
First off, South Africa is a modern nation. It has plenty of universities, and several of them have faculties of agriculture. These faculties employ black and white professors, and the students that study there are black and white. This isn't 1500 AD anymore, where all the local tribes know how to do is cattle husbandry and basic agriculture. There are plenty of educated black people in SA.
Secondly, all over the entire world land ownership transferred from Europeans to the native population after the end of colonialism - and were there famines? No. Only in Zimbabwe and Cambodja, maybe, but that's mostly due to the extreme political situation in those countries. All over the rest of the world the transfer went without problems, because in most cases it was already overwhelmingly the native population that did the actual agricultural labour anyway. In fact food production in all post-colonial nations went up, which is why there has been such a population explosion all over Africa in the last fifty years. Because the white landowners grew mostly cash crops or other crops intended for export to Europe. In plenty of cases that actually led to famines - the Irish potato famine and the 1943 Indian famine as most recent and famous examples.
Do I think /u/snallygaster is a racist? No, I don't, she seems like a fine enough sort. But this reaction of "omg if the white landowners get disowned in favour of the blacks there will be a famine" is at best paternalistic - if you think about it for even five minutes past the apparent immediate knee-jerk reaction of "Africans are uneducated" you realise that that is an erroneous assumption based on racial stereotypes. After all, she literally said "It's happened time and time again when a group of people with necessary skills leave or are removed and unskilled people take over."
You can argue that the government is corrupt - sure, it is. You can argue that their corruptness might/will lead this land redistribution to be an exercise in clientilism, sure. You can argue that's unfair that the current owners might (I stress might) not get compensated, sure. You can say that the current sporadic violence towards white landowners is unjustified, indeed. But saying that there will be mass famines and societal collapse because the South African black population can't work farms? Yeah, that's kinda racist.
Only in Zimbabwe and Cambodja, maybe, but that's mostly due to the extreme political situation in those countries.
Isn't that extreme political situation "remove whitey," at least for the case of Zimbabwe? That is what SA is doing.
My understanding is, most of SA's poor people are still Black (with Whites catching up), with the land are pretty likely to be taken over by SA's ruling elite and distributed to their cronies, the poor are not really getting anything out of it, but we have less rich people in general.
That doesn't sound good to me. Maybe they won't starve to the level of Zimbabwe, but the general quality of life may still decrease.
Plus, why repeat something that you know has failed spectacularly before?
Isn't that extreme political situation "remove whitey," at least for the case of Zimbabwe? That is what SA is doing.
The situation in Zimbabwe was far more extreme, though, as it went hand-in-hand with tons of violence and a collapse of the entire economy (which made it impossible for the newly minted farmers to actually buy the tools the work their land).
My understanding is, most of SA's poor people are still Black (with Whites catching up), with the land are pretty likely to be taken over by SA's ruling elite and distributed to their cronies, the poor are not really getting anything out of it, but we have less rich people in general.
That might be how it goes, but let's hope not I guess? In theory, the new ANC leader is anti-corruption, so let's hope it pans out that way.
At any rate, not enacting policies if there's a danger corruption might get involved would probably paralyse the entire South African state.
Plus, why repeat something that you know has failed spectacularly before?
That's just it: it only failed once (in the case of Zimbabwe), and it succeeded everywhere else. Yet people keep on bringing up Zimbabwe like it's the only possible outcome of land redistribution.
Being the closest one to it makes it pretty easy for people to think of it.
That's not how it goes, though - Begium, for instance, is between Holland and France yet has not made any of the obvious, glaring errors in judgement they have.
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1 SnapshillBot 2018-03-01
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1 InsaneHuckleberry 2018-03-01
Wellllllll there’s a reason whites manage the farm and blacks work it...
1 Alexlincoln2 2018-03-01
because the whites have hundreds of years of commercial agriculture ingrained in their culture, while the blacks are being misled by a corrupt socialist government into thinking money and wealth will magically be created by taking it from whitey
1 InsaneHuckleberry 2018-03-01
I was being tongue in cheek, but sure! Let’s gonwith that.
1 ason 2018-03-01
Put your tongue in my cheeks, big boy.
1 Awayfone 2018-03-01
Partu
1 menslib_is_alpha_af 2018-03-01
/u/JebusGobson are you going to make a thread about /u/snallygaster on r/shitamericansay?
1 JebusGobson 2018-03-01
We have rules against low hanging fruit
1 eva_unit_hung 2018-03-01
you're a low-thinking fruit
yes, mega-burn, I know
1 Matthew94 2018-03-01
That was a better one.
1 JebusGobson 2018-03-01
I can't believe you went there
1 eva_unit_hung 2018-03-01
/r/drama can, newfag
1 LemonScore 2018-03-01
You should start the anti-white colonisation push by keeping yourself safe.
Also, congrats on being too retarded for even SRD, that's quite a feat even for a soyboy shitlicker like yourself.
1 JebusGobson 2018-03-01
I keep myself safe by avoiding white ppl
1 comebepc 2018-03-01
I should make a bot for this
1 CultOfCuck 2018-03-01
Demod yourself from everything.
1 eva_unit_hung 2018-03-01
i wonder how the admins would feel about this powermod supporting what will surely lead to thousands of dead Africans
...good potential for more drama, at least.
1 CultOfCuck 2018-03-01
The admins are neoliberals*, meaning they want to kill whitey and fuck over Africa. They'll probably give him a few more subs for aiding in both.
1 eva_unit_hung 2018-03-01
lol I was going to ask "then who's left?" but I think I know (((who)))
oh and riceboys, pajeets, and cholos I guess, somebody has to make their computers, someone has to be tech support, and those toilets ain't gonna clean themselves
1 likearasputin 2018-03-01
I don't know about you guys, but personally wouldn't try to insult u/snallygaster.
Here's a picture of a happy panda for her.
http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/pandas_1.jpg
1 menslib_is_alpha_af 2018-03-01
This isn’t even a match if she chooses to engage. He’s debating like a 16 year old on r/negareddit. 🐼
1 CultOfCuck 2018-03-01
I wouldn't want to. With each post of hers beating down SRDine trash my heart grows fonder. <3
1 HauntedFurniture 2018-03-01
I can't even tell if this is trolling anymore
1 Alexlincoln2 2018-03-01
/u/JebusGobson isn't this counter to your argument about Istanbul being returned to the Greeks? Istanbul was forcefully turkified with ethnic cleansing and forced assimilation, how is that any different than America or Australia?
1 SmurfPrivilege 2018-03-01
That issue is not as black and white.
1 LemonScore 2018-03-01
He said to Arathian that it's different because most of the people currently living in Istanbul are Turks so it would be wrong to push them out. I'm not sure why that same logic isn't also applied to the US and Australia (oh wait, yes I do, it's because /u/JebusGobson is a virtue signaling leftist faggot who hates white people).
So I guess the lesson here is that if you want to seize land you should try to genocide as many of the natives as possible, ideally eradicating them completely.
1 JasonJewnova 2018-03-01
You could just say he's Belgian
1 ason 2018-03-01
Lol probably a butthurt manlet walloon.
1 skeetsurfing1984 2018-03-01
Quick, someone find a living Pict so we can give them Scotland back!
1 JebusGobson 2018-03-01
That doesn't count because there's no appreciatable difference between Turks and Greeks anyway. Could anyone even tell them apart? Aside from the fact that Turks have better personal hygiene, ofc
1 ghuy123 2018-03-01
Aww why'd you say that. What did the Greeks do to you?
1 JebusGobson 2018-03-01
Greeks haven't done anything for at least 600 years
1 ghuy123 2018-03-01
Where you from? I need to defend my proud nation from these cowardly insults.
1 JebusGobson 2018-03-01
I'm from Flanders
1 ghuy123 2018-03-01
Worst Simpsons character in the show.
1 JebusGobson 2018-03-01
:'(
1 ghuy123 2018-03-01
I'm sorry guys I can't do this. I know getting people to come into a thread and then insulting them is like the only thing r/drama has but I'm just not up to it. I'm not cut out for this. Jebus I'm sorry Flanders was a classic character in the Simpson who was integral to the show. He always made me laugh with his polite charm and his dorkiness. Can you forgive me?
1 JebusGobson 2018-03-01
Not only do I forgive you, you've earned a permanent place in my heart.
1 Ardvarkeating101 2018-03-01
I don't, you suck
1 Shalabadoo 2018-03-01
his response to why not the same for Istanbul lol
1 Awayfone 2018-03-01
So the Nazi had the right idea
1 skeetsurfing1984 2018-03-01
Dude is aggressively woke.
1 JebusGobson 2018-03-01
thanks for recognising the hussle, fam
1 EmployedDM 2018-03-01
Leave snally alone!!!
1 Average2520 2018-03-01
Wait, is that /u/JebusGobson completely dismissing most of the comment so he can focus on one small piece, blow it out of proportion and move the goalposts? Who'd have guessed?? And of course snally is schooling the kid while being the polite, shining beacon of what dramanauts could never hope to be. Praise b snally.
1 menslib_is_alpha_af 2018-03-01
PRAISE BE!
1 WithoutAComma 2018-03-01
Jebus playing the /r/drama role.
1 JebusGobson 2018-03-01
I'm confused by all these people I've never even seen around apparently knowing who I am
1 Joan_Wayne_Gacy 2018-03-01
This sub is alt central.
1 JebusGobson 2018-03-01
Seems like a sub full of alt-funny and alt-intelligent people
1 Joan_Wayne_Gacy 2018-03-01
duhh.
I do think if youre gonna talk trash online you should use your main but too many power user lusers worried about their mod status would disagree with me.
really violates the sanctity of r/drama but lusers gonna luse.
1 JebusGobson 2018-03-01
imagine being such a loser you worry about your mod status
Shit, just imagining such makes me depressed
1 Joan_Wayne_Gacy 2018-03-01
well I always liked you and I of course adore snally so ignore the meanies and they'll go away after a day.
1 zergling_Lester 2018-03-01
Why do you assume that people have "mains" anymore in the first place?
1 Joan_Wayne_Gacy 2018-03-01
Because alot of people use alts to talk shit?
1 zergling_Lester 2018-03-01
Like, do you think that all these people you don't recognize still talk respectably and politely to Jebus and you on their mains (that you do recognize), but use alts to talk shit to you?
What I'm suggesting is that maybe you should make a difference between an alt and a new main, and then all the new-old faces is just you getting old and out of touch.
1 Joan_Wayne_Gacy 2018-03-01
People have always used alts to post in certain places. Porn alts and shitsub alts are a thing.
I'm not assuming anything other than stating a fact.
1 nanonan 2018-03-01
You would need the shrivelled up balls of the soyiest soyboy to need to hide your identity here. So I assume you are using an alt right now.
1 Joan_Wayne_Gacy 2018-03-01
kys
1 nanonan 2018-03-01
So that's a yes then.
1 Joan_Wayne_Gacy 2018-03-01
;)
1 Average2520 2018-03-01
This is my "main" you dumb cunt, but the fact that you think everyone is an alt is both adorable and stupid.
1 WorldStarCroCop 2018-03-01
I only use this account and I'm banned on like 20 different boards. I only care enough to make an alt when I'm too drunk to remember the name or password the next day anyways.
1 xjapxn 2018-03-01
Hey, there's always gus like me who aren't
autisticcool enough to be accused of being/having alts1 OldOrder 2018-03-01
Bitch you never post anymore either.
1 Joan_Wayne_Gacy 2018-03-01
kys stupid fucking moron.
how dare you fucking insult me you fucking piece of fucking trash.
1 Ardvarkeating101 2018-03-01
I literally do not have time to run an alt with all the time I spend on this one
1 Joan_Wayne_Gacy 2018-03-01
kys
1 yourdeadwife 2018-03-01
We can smell lolcow from 7 subreddits away
1 Sexyblackfeet 2018-03-01
You are what we call a "lolcow". Enjoy you 15 minutes of fame. Preferably, make the most of it and become a drama mod like the faggot you are.
1 JebusGobson 2018-03-01
MFW
1 Sexyblackfeet 2018-03-01
She is a faggot and so are you
1 PlvGdm 2018-03-01
I really hope jebus is trolling and not really serious, because I don't remember him being this retarded, like ever.
1 TheEquimanthorn 2018-03-01
He's a moderator of 68 subreddits, there's no question he's close to brain-dead.
1 InsaneHuckleberry 2018-03-01
Waffles are automatically retarded. It’s the nonstick coating they’re molded by. Warps their fragile minds.
1 BIknkbtKitNwniS 2018-03-01
This guy doesn't know about cast iron waffle irons. Shit's naturally nonstick yo.
1 PlvGdm 2018-03-01
1 jaredschaffer27 2018-03-01
Belgium is pretty much a non-country anyway
1 CirqueDuFuder 2018-03-01
Which is why he supports destroying other nations.
1 jaredschaffer27 2018-03-01
The National Forest land in my home state of Idaho is 3x bigger than Belgium. I can't bring myself to care about it except for the Nutella and strawberry waffles the little shops sell in Brussels for 3 Euros.
1 CirqueDuFuder 2018-03-01
Plus it was artificially created as a bullshit country by France and Germany so they fight less.
1 Time_to_Drink 2018-03-01
It’s more a Protestant vs Catholic thing and it was more a France vs the rest of Europe ( mostly Britain) thing because Germany didn’t exist in 1830.
1 CirqueDuFuder 2018-03-01
Well I should say Germanic.
1 Time_to_Drink 2018-03-01
The Netherlands and Belgium are really just the outcome of the Wars of Religion and the Protestant Reformation, even though both were formed in the 19th century. Its all about separating Catholics from Proties. No one likes to talk about that now seeing as how low Germans are all Atheist sinners into polygamy and euthanasia.
1 allendrio 2018-03-01
We historical agendaposting now? fuck the ottomans.
1 Ardvarkeating101 2018-03-01
You won't believe which (((group))) has been fucking up all of Europe
1 allendrio 2018-03-01
germans? its usually germans invading roman empires, forming shitty fake roman empires and losing said fake empires territory to ottomans.
1 JebusGobson 2018-03-01
Nutella is Swiss
1 jaredschaffer27 2018-03-01
Wow, do you think they ever got around to exporting that to other countries so that they could make money from the other 99% of the world that doesn't live in Italy?
1 JebusGobson 2018-03-01
Oh shit, 'Nutella and strawberry waffles' is a single thing, I thought you meant strawberry waffles and Nutella.
1 PoorLilMarco 2018-03-01
DAMP RAG
1 MegaSeedsInYourBum 2018-03-01
Goddamn swamp Germans
1 TaylorSwiftOfRdrama 2018-03-01
I'm just here with a pitchfork for the witch hunt against whoever is bullying Snally.
1 menslib_is_alpha_af 2018-03-01
https://www.fin24.com/Economy/researchers-plot-4-outcomes-for-land-expropriation-without-compensation-20180226
/u/JebusGobson your insults are dumb and so are you. Economists agree this is a bad idea, please go tell this colonialist
“Yeah, because black people are too stupid and lazy to work a farm, right” out your disgusting mayo monster, ignorant patronizing ass you hack of a mod and human being. Then delete your account.
1 JebusGobson 2018-03-01
imagine being this racist
1 menslib_is_alpha_af 2018-03-01
Imagine “delete your account” being enough to get that comment removed. Really?
1 JebusGobson 2018-03-01
I'll remove whatever I want
1 menslib_is_alpha_af 2018-03-01
/u/JebusGobson why did you get /u/TAKEitTOrCIRCLEJERK to lock the thread instead of just not replying or saying “You know what? You’re right.”
You could still say it here. Just saying.
1 Neon_needles 2018-03-01
Obviously, like always, the answer is autism.
1 JebusGobson 2018-03-01
I was on the road all day, alas.
1 yourdeadwife 2018-03-01
Is your bull named "the road"?
1 JebusGobson 2018-03-01
No it's Jamal
1 Strictlybutters 2018-03-01
Remember when Venezuela nationalized it’s oil industry kicking out all the multinational conglomerates and with it all its expertise? That really worked out well for them.
1 Che_Gueporna 2018-03-01
We don't even need to reach for a comparison with Venezuela. Zimbabwe is right there, and they did the EXACT SAME THING.
1 mygoodpostingalt 2018-03-01
this was good for blockchain
1 skeetsurfing1984 2018-03-01
True expropriation has never been triedTM .
1 SmurfPrivilege 2018-03-01
JebusGobson: Do you think there's no black people with relevant training, or education?
snally: ...no? That's why I qualified my statement with 'primarily'. 'Primarily' as in once the white farmers are ousted, there aren't going to be nearly enough farmers to produce the food the country needs because there aren't enough black commercial farmers. Not that there are no black commercial farmers.
I mean, I of course support the home team (snally). But why would you try to make a nuanced argument in a space like SRD? People like that are just suffering from a compulsive fixation on callout culture.
1 moudougou 2018-03-01
The same can be said about drama.
1 v_is_one_person 2018-03-01
Stop calling out our callout culture, you’re part of the problem now!
1 SmurfPrivilege 2018-03-01
Are you suggesting only minorities engage in callout culture?!
1 SmurfPrivilege 2018-03-01
1 BIknkbtKitNwniS 2018-03-01
Sergeant McGillicuddy! We found another topic that SRD can't discuss without punching themselves in the nuts!
LOCK THE THREAD, OFFICER.
Aye aye!
This is what passes as humour to srd moderators.
Not to mention all the drama is being caused by one of their own moderators.
What a shitshow.
1 StevenGorefrost 2018-03-01
Them and Outoftheloop have the worst mod comments when they lock threads.
1 The_Reason_Trump_Won 2018-03-01
lol waffles
1 UnoriginalStanger 2018-03-01
Snally defense force assemble!!
1 zergling_Lester 2018-03-01
This but with a feeling of warmth and approval.
1 Oh_hamburgers_ 2018-03-01
Can we please sign some sort of international contract that says when South Africa inevitably fails and destroys its fertile farmland they cannot enter any white countries? It only seems fair.
1 CirqueDuFuder 2018-03-01
So why the fuck is that racist piece of shit a mod of SRD? Yet that place will talk with pearls clutched about drama.
1 istealroadsigns 2018-03-01
Wtb SRD mod Slack logs during this atrocious attack on /u/Snallygaster
1 CirqueDuFuder 2018-03-01
Fuck that would be amazing. Just get /u/phedre to leak it.
1 phedre 2018-03-01
Snally: JEBUS U SUK
Jebus: NO U
TITRC: ADMIRE MY SOYBOY OPPRESSIVE TOXIC WHITE MASCULINITY
There ya go. SRD slack leaks.
1 phedre 2018-03-01
/u/snallygaster /u/takeittorcirclejerk /u/jebusgobson
1 TAKEitTOrCIRCLEJERK 2018-03-01
remarkably accurate, except you forgot to call me a cuck
1 CultOfCuck 2018-03-01
How much bussy you need to reopen the SRD thread bby?
1 JebusGobson 2018-03-01
Obviously fake, I would never be rude to a woman. If a women gives constructive critique, a man's place is to shut up and LISTEN. Something we've reneged on doing for way too long.
1 phedre 2018-03-01
YOU JUST CALLED ME A PERFIDIOUS CANADIAN YOU LIAR.
1 JebusGobson 2018-03-01
Obviously fake, I would never be rude to an ethic minority. You've already suffered enough oppression without my racist white ass weighing in.
1 phedre 2018-03-01
True, true. You may be a dirty belgian, but at least you're not mach-2.
1 JebusGobson 2018-03-01
Well thanks I guess, that's like saying "at least you're smarter than a beetle"
1 CirqueDuFuder 2018-03-01
That seems accurate actually.
1 Zachums 2018-03-01
we actually just call each other cucks all day, every day.
1 CirqueDuFuder 2018-03-01
Hey Zachiepoo. Post pug, cuck.
1 Zachums 2018-03-01
hey, that's our word!
1 Oxus007 2018-03-01
Snally is right, Jebus is wrong.
1 comebepc 2018-03-01
Hmm, must be a day ending in y
1 JebusGobson 2018-03-01
Snally is right, indeed. Very much on the right
1 siskonaut 2018-03-01
/u/Snallygaster is alt-right Nazi CONFIRMED!!!
1 LadyVetinari 2018-03-01
Do have numbers on ethnicities of those with commercial farming skills and training in SA?
1 Standard12 2018-03-01
5 white. 2 black.
1 JebusGobson 2018-03-01
Do you?
1 LadyVetinari 2018-03-01
No I thought you might tho. I'm genuinely curious
1 Sarge_Ward 2018-03-01
there is no way you actually believe this Jebus. Come the hell on.
1 JebusGobson 2018-03-01
I'll come the hell on, indeed. On your face.
1 Sarge_Ward 2018-03-01
Oof. Gottem good.
1 JebusGobson 2018-03-01
my condolences for your loss
1 nanonan 2018-03-01
Better right than a fucking moron. Why do you want black people to starve to death? Oh that's right, becuse political ideology trumps morality.
1 JebusGobson 2018-03-01
Yeah because look at all those famines that happened everywhere after decolonisation, right? Blacks can't have the farms man, they need whitey to make food for them because obviously they can't do it themselves right?
1 nanonan 2018-03-01
Despite all your rage you're still just a rat in a cage.
1 JebusGobson 2018-03-01
Some will say what is lost can never be saved
1 FrostBittenSalsa 2018-03-01
Holy shit Oxy actually put his big boy pants on to come play with us for once
1 TheRootinTootinPutin 2018-03-01
And it was even to set the tone :")
1 WorldStarCroCop 2018-03-01
China's probably chomping at the bit for their inevitable takeover of South Africa.
1 TheHeroReditDeserves 2018-03-01
I enjoy watching /u/snallygaster post. He is my favorite redditor.
When he makes a spicy hot take, I think to myself "yes".
When he gets wrecked by scrubs, I think to myself "no".
1 snallygaster 2018-03-01
I'm tuched!
1 Ardvarkeating101 2018-03-01
You're a he???
1 snallygaster 2018-03-01
no, but there's no point in correcting people on a semi-anonymous website.
1 TheHeroReditDeserves 2018-03-01
Srry
1 comebepc 2018-03-01
Snally defense force assemble
1 Pepperglue 2018-03-01
u/JebusGobson, u/snallygaster is the mod that unites us all. Pick another mod next time to be a dick about.
1 JebusGobson 2018-03-01
OK, let's be serious about this for a second.
First off, South Africa is a modern nation. It has plenty of universities, and several of them have faculties of agriculture. These faculties employ black and white professors, and the students that study there are black and white. This isn't 1500 AD anymore, where all the local tribes know how to do is cattle husbandry and basic agriculture. There are plenty of educated black people in SA.
Secondly, all over the entire world land ownership transferred from Europeans to the native population after the end of colonialism - and were there famines? No. Only in Zimbabwe and Cambodja, maybe, but that's mostly due to the extreme political situation in those countries. All over the rest of the world the transfer went without problems, because in most cases it was already overwhelmingly the native population that did the actual agricultural labour anyway. In fact food production in all post-colonial nations went up, which is why there has been such a population explosion all over Africa in the last fifty years. Because the white landowners grew mostly cash crops or other crops intended for export to Europe. In plenty of cases that actually led to famines - the Irish potato famine and the 1943 Indian famine as most recent and famous examples.
Do I think /u/snallygaster is a racist? No, I don't, she seems like a fine enough sort. But this reaction of "omg if the white landowners get disowned in favour of the blacks there will be a famine" is at best paternalistic - if you think about it for even five minutes past the apparent immediate knee-jerk reaction of "Africans are uneducated" you realise that that is an erroneous assumption based on racial stereotypes. After all, she literally said "It's happened time and time again when a group of people with necessary skills leave or are removed and unskilled people take over."
You can argue that the government is corrupt - sure, it is. You can argue that their corruptness might/will lead this land redistribution to be an exercise in clientilism, sure. You can argue that's unfair that the current owners might (I stress might) not get compensated, sure. You can say that the current sporadic violence towards white landowners is unjustified, indeed. But saying that there will be mass famines and societal collapse because the South African black population can't work farms? Yeah, that's kinda racist.
1 Pepperglue 2018-03-01
First, thank you for the serious post.
Isn't that extreme political situation "remove whitey," at least for the case of Zimbabwe? That is what SA is doing.
My understanding is, most of SA's poor people are still Black (with Whites catching up), with the land are pretty likely to be taken over by SA's ruling elite and distributed to their cronies, the poor are not really getting anything out of it, but we have less rich people in general.
That doesn't sound good to me. Maybe they won't starve to the level of Zimbabwe, but the general quality of life may still decrease.
Plus, why repeat something that you know has failed spectacularly before?
1 JebusGobson 2018-03-01
The situation in Zimbabwe was far more extreme, though, as it went hand-in-hand with tons of violence and a collapse of the entire economy (which made it impossible for the newly minted farmers to actually buy the tools the work their land).
That might be how it goes, but let's hope not I guess? In theory, the new ANC leader is anti-corruption, so let's hope it pans out that way.
At any rate, not enacting policies if there's a danger corruption might get involved would probably paralyse the entire South African state.
That's just it: it only failed once (in the case of Zimbabwe), and it succeeded everywhere else. Yet people keep on bringing up Zimbabwe like it's the only possible outcome of land redistribution.
1 Pepperglue 2018-03-01
I hope you're right on this one.
Being the closest one to it makes it pretty easy for people to think of it.
1 JebusGobson 2018-03-01
That's not how it goes, though - Begium, for instance, is between Holland and France yet has not made any of the obvious, glaring errors in judgement they have.
1 Pepperglue 2018-03-01
Is Belgium doing any of the stupid things France and Netherlands are doing? I'm not too good on my European problems.
1 JebusGobson 2018-03-01
We're smart enough not to act French or act Dutch, I mean
1 Pepperglue 2018-03-01
Then of course your country is not like them.
1 JebusGobson 2018-03-01
Thank god