“he survived the attack despite serious injuries. Lovell almost lost the index, middle and ring fingers on his hand.”
If that is the extent of his serious injuries, then it doesn’t sound like she was trying to kill him. I can understand him sustaining hand injuries while trying to protect himself, but she couldn’t have been aiming to kill if she started attacking him when he was asleep.
Yes, premeditatively hacking a sleeping person with a sword isn't necessarily an attempt to kill them.
One wonders how either of these people managed to secure a romantic partner at all. I am constantly amazed at how the most objectionable and awful people manage to do this when, despite my best efforts I have never managed it myself. One of those sacred mysteries of existence I suppose.
Where did she get a (non-decorative) samurai sword from? Surely guns are easier to obtain.
There's no waiting period on a fucking sword. Also, literally any knife or sporting shop usually has some mall ninja shit like that hanging up. To buy a sword you just show ID and are over 18.
Mayocide might not be enough. Maybe we just need to get rid of everyone and start over.
You know what I liked as a teenager? Playing games and reading books. I could just lose myself because I was always really good at immersing myself into something.
Get lost for hours in an adventure alongside knights to save the realm? I'm there on the horse right next to them.
Kill the Olympian gods because they pissed me off? I'm swinging those chains.
Using magic with a wand while saying stupid sounding words? I'll be the one who fails, but keeps trying because I love the idea of magic.
But then, real life hit. People told me I needed to learn about the world, about politics in my country and about socio-economic factors, because I'm an adult now and that's what adults do.
Fine, I'm an adult and I'm good at taking responsibility for myself. So I learned, and when I learned, people said I was wrong. I was learning from the wrong sources, because I was reaching a different conclusion to them.
How could I not believe that games caused violence? How could I not understand that Magic the Gathering cards where a gateway to satan?
How was I so dumb that I didn't get that being conservative made me as bad as the guy who killed millions of jews?
Dramatics aside, I learned quickly that my opinions on things were the wrong opinions. My friend told me I needed to educate myself before voting. When I did, she told me I was wrong because I didn't see things from her point of view.
So I decided to just start ignoring stuff again. Immersing myself into fun universes was much more pleasant and people didn't tell me I was wrong all the time (without being able to prove or explain it of course).
Then, during class one day I'm talking about games with a friend. This girl comes in, I like to call her the Proto-Red, because she looked exactly like Big red, but like 2 years prior to me knowing about her, so... she comes near us and starts telling us that we shouldn't talk about games in school. Why? I thought maybe people were studying, but no, we were in the cafeteria minding our own business.
Nah, she just said games are sexist and she doesn't tolerate sexism in school. Imagine my shock, which I'm sure many of you also had to experience. I'm told to watch Feminist Frequency (who?) to educate myself.
Imagine my shock again when within 5 minutes of her first video I saw she lies about the game.
And again.
And again.
I start to learn as much as I can until I make up my own mind on the topic. They were full of shit. Soon after I got into Gamergate and ever since I've been keeping up to date with everything up to today.
Today I'm reading the news. ''UK's biggest grooming gang", "Video games cause violence", "Women in X-field-they-don't-like", "Here's why white men are...", etc.
And I decide, fuck it. I'm done, I'm just going to take a break for two weeks. Just stop reading any subreddit that might have anything to do with politics, the social war, feminism, SJWs, etc. I'm gonna stick to D&D stuff, maybe read back up on Magic the Gathering and invite a friend to play, finish those games I've been meaning to, maybe it up the old MMO and see if I can fuck up a raid or two because I suck.
Ok, D&D first. Oh? Someone had a bad experience at a game shop? That sure sucks, I hope they find somewhere else to go and... "The men playing D&D are the problem" oh boy... Skip.
Magic the Gathering, there's no way this can be infected, it's fucking playing cards. "This guy(Quartering) is harassing women out of Magic." Shit that's old new, I'll just skip it and... "Women not winning tournaments is lowkey sexism".
Fuck this shit.
I'll just go play my Vita, but I'm a bit stuck on this dungeon, I'll go check up on a FAQ (sue me). I wonder what they're saying on the message boards? "This game is actually problematic."
SKIP
MMO it is then. My old FFXIV guild was always cool, I'll just go see how they're doing. Log-in "If you're a guy playing a catgirl you're disguisting"
Log-out
I never realized how bad it had actually gotten... until I tried to leave and go back. It's like an infection that won't go away. It's everywhere and as much as I try to ignore it, it's still there, corrupting the games I like (censorship) and the communities I love. I will take a break of all this, but I had to make this post first, as a rant more than anything else. It's like exorcising demons. They'll be back, but at least I'll have some weight off my chest.
It's a sad fact that "You may not be interested in war, but war is interested in you." If your position is sufficiently secure you can take a time out from the war, but you really don't want to ignore it for very long.
freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula — for anyone being around skeptic communities in 2012 this url should come with a proper trigger warning. A FTB is is ground zero for the downfall of that community.
It was for the best, because making community out of "we agree on one thing" is a receipt for disaster.
Atheism+ is a good example of how toxic and fucking cancerous SJWs are.
The entire atheist+ saga shows exactly why SJWs should never be tolerated or accepted into any community.
But when it came to the skeptic community they were especially fucking toxic, because a bunch of people that brand themselves "skeptics" couldn't possibly entertain the idea that they were just stupid morons being indoctrinated in far-left tumblr crazy.
My knowledge of this pharyngula person is next to zero, can you please tell me about this dude and this freethoughtblogs?
Also please redpill me on the skeptical community in 2012, I knew nothing about them at that time
OK, so I'll be very brief, and I'm very biased (duh).
In early 2000s the atheism had a little resurgence, mostly because the Internet let us, edgy speds, connect and create communities. Pharyngula, or, as he's really called PZ Mayers, were one of the most edgy bloggers.
He had enough cachet to be buddy-buddy with Dawkins. Everything seem great, the meme production was over 200% of a norm, but then, tragedy struck. One of a host of popular podcast, Skeptic's Guide to The Universe, Rebbeca Watson, made a stink about being offered a coffee date. You can google elevatorgate at your leisure.
It was a wedge issue that drove community apart. One of those parts called themselves Atheism+ and tried to make it intersectional, feminist and inclusive. Too bad all their standard bearers turned out to be fools, frauds and sex pests.
Thanks for that quick rundown. I had actually come to know of this "elevatorgate" recently but didn't know the shitstorm it caused. Looks like there's some reading I need to do about all this euphoric sjw drama.
You'll find enough in your standard places (like ED), there's also a niche forum http://slymepit.com/ we hid into to sperg about it. But as I said, it's mostly dead topic, but if you're in for a drama hunt tonight, enjoy!
He is, at least by his own definition. He's pretty much in a "believe the victim, nobody lies about rape" camp, yet, he told a story about one of his students, who accused him of rape and how he dealt with it.
Somehow, this time, it was a lie.
PZ Mayers is Maddox of atheism, once respected, but ultimately destroyed his work and chances of achieving anything because it came to light he does not play smug asshole, he is smug asshole and not a very bright one at that.
One of a host of popular podcast, Skeptic's Guide to The Universe, Rebbeca Watson, made a stink about being offered a coffee date.
No, she was invited for "coffee" as in "let's go back to my room and have sex, but I'll say "coffee" because that's less sleazy".
Apparently because an elevator is a confined space (and there's absolutely no way to call for help other than pressing the panic button) this was super-problematic.
Translation: "REEEE GAMER CHADS STEALING ALL THE QT3.14 GAMER GURLLZ!!!!"
Keep in mind, these are the dudebros they are afraid of. If these manlet soyboys in Gamergate are tougher than this Agoraphobic Twitter user, than holy shit I have no hope for this guy.
Ah, the authoritarian, hysterical, brittle slogan screamers and liars that are Atheism+ were the very first soldiers in the SJW movement.
I remember years ago when they declared brown atheists to be uncle toms and started to censor and target all atheists that talked about Islam.
What a great, ethical, and non conservative movement, the lily-white bourgeoisie atheists who spend all of their time targeting other atheists based on race and origin.
When they failed to enforce inter-sectionality on the atheism they immediately began to destroy it, and they succeeded.
Anyone claiming PZ has crossed a line in this post doesn’t understand the full context of this. The game, PlayerUnknown’s Battlegrounds (or PUBG), is notorious for encouraging violence against women. It’s common for male players (as male characters in game) to start off a round by gathering in a group of four and beating a woman character to death with frying pans. The game also has a significant following of people online who encourage actual domestic abuse against women who don’t support their male partners playing the game. Numerous women have to deal with physical abuse on a daily basis and no one is reporting on it. But when PZ jokingly supports a woman attacking her boyfriend a single time, that’s too far?
52 comments
42 SAC-Lawn_Gnome 2018-03-17
From the comment section:
Yes, premeditatively hacking a sleeping person with a sword isn't necessarily an attempt to kill them.
lol
22 PoorLilMarco 2018-03-17
She was just defending herself from the emotional labour he was imposing on her. He clearly deserved it.
13 SAC-Lawn_Gnome 2018-03-17
I'm not sure he deserved it, but he was definitely asking for it.
2 TheOtherGuy9603 2018-03-17
If i had gold, it would be yours
2 Harradar 2018-03-17
It's basically slavery. She's the Nat Turner of her generation.
1 hexane360 2018-03-17
https://youtu.be/qrrz54UtkCc
15 Kevin_LanDUI 2018-03-17
Another comment:
There's no waiting period on a fucking sword. Also, literally any knife or sporting shop usually has some mall ninja shit like that hanging up. To buy a sword you just show ID and are over 18.
Mayocide might not be enough. Maybe we just need to get rid of everyone and start over.
2 pmyoupmme 2018-03-17
Fucking sword eh?
1 TacdeR 2018-03-17
incel lol
18 fuckyourcontext 2018-03-17
I support her goal of gamercide.
9 camcamcey 2018-03-17
They targeted gamers.
9 Starship_Litterbox_B 2018-03-17
You know what I liked as a teenager? Playing games and reading books. I could just lose myself because I was always really good at immersing myself into something.
Get lost for hours in an adventure alongside knights to save the realm? I'm there on the horse right next to them.
Kill the Olympian gods because they pissed me off? I'm swinging those chains.
Using magic with a wand while saying stupid sounding words? I'll be the one who fails, but keeps trying because I love the idea of magic.
But then, real life hit. People told me I needed to learn about the world, about politics in my country and about socio-economic factors, because I'm an adult now and that's what adults do.
Fine, I'm an adult and I'm good at taking responsibility for myself. So I learned, and when I learned, people said I was wrong. I was learning from the wrong sources, because I was reaching a different conclusion to them.
How could I not believe that games caused violence? How could I not understand that Magic the Gathering cards where a gateway to satan?
How was I so dumb that I didn't get that being conservative made me as bad as the guy who killed millions of jews?
Dramatics aside, I learned quickly that my opinions on things were the wrong opinions. My friend told me I needed to educate myself before voting. When I did, she told me I was wrong because I didn't see things from her point of view.
So I decided to just start ignoring stuff again. Immersing myself into fun universes was much more pleasant and people didn't tell me I was wrong all the time (without being able to prove or explain it of course).
Then, during class one day I'm talking about games with a friend. This girl comes in, I like to call her the Proto-Red, because she looked exactly like Big red, but like 2 years prior to me knowing about her, so... she comes near us and starts telling us that we shouldn't talk about games in school. Why? I thought maybe people were studying, but no, we were in the cafeteria minding our own business.
Nah, she just said games are sexist and she doesn't tolerate sexism in school. Imagine my shock, which I'm sure many of you also had to experience. I'm told to watch Feminist Frequency (who?) to educate myself.
Imagine my shock again when within 5 minutes of her first video I saw she lies about the game.
And again.
And again.
I start to learn as much as I can until I make up my own mind on the topic. They were full of shit. Soon after I got into Gamergate and ever since I've been keeping up to date with everything up to today.
Today I'm reading the news. ''UK's biggest grooming gang", "Video games cause violence", "Women in X-field-they-don't-like", "Here's why white men are...", etc.
And I decide, fuck it. I'm done, I'm just going to take a break for two weeks. Just stop reading any subreddit that might have anything to do with politics, the social war, feminism, SJWs, etc. I'm gonna stick to D&D stuff, maybe read back up on Magic the Gathering and invite a friend to play, finish those games I've been meaning to, maybe it up the old MMO and see if I can fuck up a raid or two because I suck.
Ok, D&D first. Oh? Someone had a bad experience at a game shop? That sure sucks, I hope they find somewhere else to go and... "The men playing D&D are the problem" oh boy... Skip.
Magic the Gathering, there's no way this can be infected, it's fucking playing cards. "This guy(Quartering) is harassing women out of Magic." Shit that's old new, I'll just skip it and... "Women not winning tournaments is lowkey sexism".
Fuck this shit.
I'll just go play my Vita, but I'm a bit stuck on this dungeon, I'll go check up on a FAQ (sue me). I wonder what they're saying on the message boards? "This game is actually problematic."
SKIP
MMO it is then. My old FFXIV guild was always cool, I'll just go see how they're doing. Log-in "If you're a guy playing a catgirl you're disguisting"
Log-out
I never realized how bad it had actually gotten... until I tried to leave and go back. It's like an infection that won't go away. It's everywhere and as much as I try to ignore it, it's still there, corrupting the games I like (censorship) and the communities I love. I will take a break of all this, but I had to make this post first, as a rant more than anything else. It's like exorcising demons. They'll be back, but at least I'll have some weight off my chest.
3 pitterpatterwater 2018-03-17
It's a sad fact that "You may not be interested in war, but war is interested in you." If your position is sufficiently secure you can take a time out from the war, but you really don't want to ignore it for very long.
3 ay_what_up2 2018-03-17
LMFAO
3 Stallmansalwaysright 2018-03-17
mmm . . . deep fried pasta
3 automatic_cuck 2018-03-17
WOKE
14 Thhueros 2018-03-17
What a dumb blog. Who reads this shit?
10 wisty 2018-03-17
It's PZ Myers' blog. It used to be the most read science blog in the world.
7 3E4K3RWRGZPR970NVH28 2018-03-17
Just because idiots popularized it, that never made it good.
6 nmx179 2018-03-17
Damn that's depressing
3 comebepc 2018-03-17
And now it's cancer
11 braaaph 2018-03-17
I can't believe this "Atheism plus" nonsense is still around.
3 comebepc 2018-03-17
Atheism+cide when?
2 nmx179 2018-03-17
Atheism+, like atheism, is one of many problems that will be solved by the mayocide.
1 imnotagayboy 2018-03-17
Pretty sure their forum is just two admins waiting for an excuse to ban each other by now
10 opi 2018-03-17
freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula— for anyone being around skeptic communities in 2012 this url should come with a proper trigger warning. A FTB is is ground zero for the downfall of that community.It was for the best, because making community out of "we agree on one thing" is a receipt for disaster.
7 pizzashill 2018-03-17
Atheism+ is a good example of how toxic and fucking cancerous SJWs are.
The entire atheist+ saga shows exactly why SJWs should never be tolerated or accepted into any community.
But when it came to the skeptic community they were especially fucking toxic, because a bunch of people that brand themselves "skeptics" couldn't possibly entertain the idea that they were just stupid morons being indoctrinated in far-left tumblr crazy.
1 imnotagayboy 2018-03-17
You're not one of those atheism- people are you? Why do you hate women?
1 CummyBot-1999 2018-03-17
My knowledge of this pharyngula person is next to zero, can you please tell me about this dude and this freethoughtblogs? Also please redpill me on the skeptical community in 2012, I knew nothing about them at that time
5 opi 2018-03-17
OK, so I'll be very brief, and I'm very biased (duh).
In early 2000s the atheism had a little resurgence, mostly because the Internet let us, edgy speds, connect and create communities. Pharyngula, or, as he's really called PZ Mayers, were one of the most edgy bloggers.
He had enough cachet to be buddy-buddy with Dawkins. Everything seem great, the meme production was over 200% of a norm, but then, tragedy struck. One of a host of popular podcast, Skeptic's Guide to The Universe, Rebbeca Watson, made a stink about being offered a coffee date. You can google elevatorgate at your leisure.
It was a wedge issue that drove community apart. One of those parts called themselves Atheism+ and tried to make it intersectional, feminist and inclusive. Too bad all their standard bearers turned out to be fools, frauds and sex pests.
So A+ died and the community splintered further.
PZ Mayers were one of the A+ people.
2 CummyBot-1999 2018-03-17
Thanks for that quick rundown. I had actually come to know of this "elevatorgate" recently but didn't know the shitstorm it caused. Looks like there's some reading I need to do about all this euphoric sjw drama.
2 opi 2018-03-17
You'll find enough in your standard places (like ED), there's also a niche forum http://slymepit.com/ we hid into to sperg about it. But as I said, it's mostly dead topic, but if you're in for a drama hunt tonight, enjoy!
1 GenitalGesticulation 2018-03-17
Is PZ Myers the sex pest? He kinda fits the role.
3 opi 2018-03-17
He is, at least by his own definition. He's pretty much in a "believe the victim, nobody lies about rape" camp, yet, he told a story about one of his students, who accused him of rape and how he dealt with it.
Somehow, this time, it was a lie.
PZ Mayers is Maddox of atheism, once respected, but ultimately destroyed his work and chances of achieving anything because it came to light he does not play smug asshole, he is smug asshole and not a very bright one at that.
1 PUBLIQclopAccountant 2018-03-17
Coming next episode to the Greatest Debate in the Universe!
1 imnotagayboy 2018-03-17
He is one of them lol
1 wisty 2018-03-17
No, she was invited for "coffee" as in "let's go back to my room and have sex, but I'll say "coffee" because that's less sleazy".
Apparently because an elevator is a confined space (and there's absolutely no way to call for help other than pressing the panic button) this was super-problematic.
1 nanonan 2018-03-17
The elevator guy explicitly stated with his proposal that it was not a sexual invitation but just to chat. Still problematic apparently.
1 opi 2018-03-17
Wow, a mind-reader on /r/drama!
9 PhysicsIsMyMistress 2018-03-17
Funny considering PZ Myers is the definition of smug.
2 Starship_Litterbox_B 2018-03-17
My list of Heroes:
Zoe Quinn--The Queen of Shaking Tendies
Anita Sarkeesian--The Educated Woman of Fair and Insightful Critique
PZ Myers--Professor of Smug Schisming
Daniel Vavra--Educator of Populaces Absent of Mudraces
/u/ed_butteredtoast--Sexiest Man Alive
2 ineedmorealts 2018-03-17
you fucked up your ping of /u/ed_butteredtoast
1 Starship_Litterbox_B 2018-03-17
No I didn't :)
6 TheHeroReditDeserves 2018-03-17
Top Lol
5 pantsunami 2018-03-17
so wait, people automatically assume the guy is a terrible because he made smug shittalk against the person that attacked him with a sword?
3 froibo 2018-03-17
Is this even a debate? Of course it is good.
3 King-Achelexus 2018-03-17
TIL Atheism+ is still a thing.
1 Saleri73 2018-03-17
It's mostly single and obese women being angry about trivial things.
3 strathmeyer 2018-03-17
Oh, no! Somebody's projecting.
3 TheRealTrueDarkLord 2018-03-17
Translation: "REEEE GAMER CHADS STEALING ALL THE QT3.14 GAMER GURLLZ!!!!"
Keep in mind, these are the dudebros they are afraid of. If these manlet soyboys in Gamergate are tougher than this Agoraphobic Twitter user, than holy shit I have no hope for this guy.
3 TheRealTrueDarkLord 2018-03-17
"I-I-I was just joking, you guys." PZ Myers, former posterboy for /r/atheism.
3 PotatoePizza 2018-03-17
Ah, the authoritarian, hysterical, brittle slogan screamers and liars that are Atheism+ were the very first soldiers in the SJW movement.
I remember years ago when they declared brown atheists to be uncle toms and started to censor and target all atheists that talked about Islam.
What a great, ethical, and non conservative movement, the lily-white bourgeoisie atheists who spend all of their time targeting other atheists based on race and origin.
When they failed to enforce inter-sectionality on the atheism they immediately began to destroy it, and they succeeded.
1 Capital_Rope 2018-03-17
This is why we need Islam. Sharia now!
1 REEEEEELONMUSK 2018-03-17
Kill all goobergrapes and sock wearers REEEEE
1 pointmanzero 2018-03-17
PZ Myers can't die of cancer fast enough.
1 Ontares 2018-03-17
Wtf?
1 nanonan 2018-03-17
I might have to start playing PUBG now.
1 nanonan 2018-03-17
TIL that free thought = ideological lockstep.
1 imnotagayboy 2018-03-17
They targeted gamers