Not teaching kids about Childish Gambino's "This is America" in schools? Why???

88  2018-05-15 by normie_girl

127 comments

Wow that poor bastard got brigaded hard. He was at around -70 when it was linked to SRD this morning.

CAN

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traps are gay

DELET THIS

its true tho

no.

Gay but, incredibly sexy.

When the anti-bullying crowd and the teacher crowd get together to bully an anonymous stranger. Feels gooooooood

remember: its not 'bullying' if you disagree with them!

No wrong tactics, only wrong targets.

Also some "cool teachers" in that thread like this guy

> Right? I teach second grade and I go out of my way to know what the kids are talking about. I go to school skate nights, try to keep up with the latest dance crazes, video games, media, etc. i don’t need to be a cringey adult and try to do all those things, but I want my kids to know that I don’t think the things they care about are stupid. If they wanna talk Pokémon or Fortnite or Teen Titans, I want to make sure I can at least have a conversation about it. Doesn’t mean I enjoy all of those things, but if it’s important to them, it’s important to me.

Sounds like the "cool girl" from Gone Girl who's just like one of the guys only for teachers and kids.

Are you taking about Ben Affleck’s sister? I don’t think ‘cool girl’ was a thing in gone girl.

Read the book.

Affleck's wife has a whole monologue about how when they start dating, women like her have to force themsleves to be the "Cool Girl" and pretend to like all the shit guys do. Then when they settle into the relationship, they drop the facade and guys get pissy.

It's framed in the book as a shitty thing that the patriarchy forces on women, and that was how all the blogs and talk shows talked about it. But it's pretty obvious that it's just another example of how bitches be cray-cray.

Lying to men about your interests to emotionally manipulate them is oppression.

Pike has a shortened(?) version of the monologue in the film as well, that guy's just an idiot.

i don’t need to be a cringey adult and try to do all those things, but I want my kids to know that I don’t think the things they care about are stupid.

Wow.......

To build off of this, the song is a parody of that genre

kill me

a 4 minute pseudo intellectual music video is the new curriculum in 2018

relevant MDE WP skit

No shit.

Hey teacher: Your kids are probably too Woke already. Put their asses back to sleep with some Math and Chemistry.

I thought Adult Swim did obscure comedy. That was some artistic bullshit with a slanted floor.

There didn't seem to be even an attempt at humor.

San Hyde has never told a joke in his life he just steps in front of a camera and says things he thinks are true.

sounds like the left's version of comedy

MDE refugees must go back!

That's MDE?

Dunno what I expected.

You should watch it, whatever the pearlclutchers say MDE was never /pol/. Sam Hyde's spergouts after World Peace has been and the /r/cringeanarcy teens that claimed the sub after WP aired are, but that was never what MDE the comedy group was about. They've made solid and thought provoking stuff that can be enjoyed by both the left and right.

I saw the joke TED thing, but never actually watched the show.

Sam Hyde’s ted talk is probably the best piece of comedy made this decade.

https://youtu.be/8SwuoDtplfU probably my fave skit

MDE the group is pretty good aside from Sam being a retard politically, some of their sketches are funny and really make u think 🤔

That being said their fan base needs to be gassed

MDE viewer calling something pseudointellectual.

who are you quoting?

I like the video, and I like Gambino. I just fail to see how this would have any relevance in a classroom.

What the fuck is this garbage.

Looks to be Gangnam Style for Yanks.

Fuck that's accurate.

Gotta love when people obsessively reply to anyone criticizing them and insist that those disagreeing with them are offended. It's reeeing for fart sniffers.

I'm not upset, you are reeeer

“Teachers” are extremely overpaid

Based Armond says:

the mixed messages in “This Is America” are also superficial. They allude to race-based catastrophes without explanation, therefore without justification, just a pop artist’s sanctimony. This spectacle of American chaos is vague and safely “radical.” Its style of eternal paranoia keeps viewers from thinking. They can, instead, fantasize that clicking on Glover’s squandering of black cultural and political history equates to a militant political act.

https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/05/donald-glover-this-is-america-video-political-paranoia/

Nobody wants to read tripe written by some uppity uncle tom! It's pretty well written.

The Legend Of Armond White continues.

This man is a great example of how people simply have such a vast amount of different opinions that are wrong.

Am I allowed to like the song without thinking it's masterful social commentary? Or will that just piss everyone off?

It's "CURRENT YUAEER" so no

I'm with you. Glover is a college-educated label stooge with a squeaky-clean image that won't upset whites, and the video is superficial and feels contrived, but it's a decent track in its own right. It almost has a Ghanaian GH hiplife thing going, and that's cool to hear in a mainstream American release.

Childish Gambino's "This is America" is a blatant critique of black culture in the USA and the media continues attempted deflection of this.

Lucky he mumbled the whole time so everybody's too confused to be angry at him.

See, every time I've brought this up no one has wanted to engage me. The crappy trap is a blatant parody of that particularly stupid genre, and the OTT dancing is clearly poking fun at the coon tendencies of some entertainers.

Can you believe that when I was in school in the 1950s in rural Portugal they didn't even let us study the implications of Donald Glover's 'This is America'? Fucking racists.

I use Kelly Gallagher's Article of the Week every Monday morning with them, so we've already read and discussed various relevant topics like the NFL players kneeling and gun violence in America.

Oh my god this poor class. Nobody wants to argue about politics in fucking high school.

Nobody wants to argue about politics in fucking high school.

"We've got today's college kids so interested in beer, they don't care if we start manufacturing germ bombs again. Put a nuclear stockpile in their backyard and they wouldn't even know what it looked like." - Secretary of Steak.

SERIOUSPOSTERS FUCK OFF

show me on your blow-up-doll where the bad words touched you.

/u/SuperMario1313 how does it feel knowing one of your students is gonna being a gun to school and go for the high score because of this?

Idk i was pretty anti Israel in high school

Nobody wants to argue about politics in fucking high school.

Well I did. I also wanted to kill the jews, but that's kinda beside the point.

Maybe you were a shitty student, but the rest of us actually wanted to learn some shit in our history and social studies classes.

Back to the library with you, nerd.

"cops and white people are bad" wow this is so artistic and deep.............

"ISIS" (Apple Pie Terrorists) didn't murder 1000 Americans last year. It was cops. Mostly white ones. Like the motherfucker who shot the drunk guy/idiot crawling on the hallway floor of the Travel-lodge because he was "coming right at me!"

Holy shit nobody caaaaaares. Go awayyyyyy.

Do you think anyone gives a single shit here?

Go tell SRD about it and go awayyyy

reported

Retarded

There are 1.1 million cops in the US. ISIS had at most around 70k militants, but that number is considered inflated. By pure numbers, of course cops are going to kill more, and of course it's more white cops because the majority of our force is white. Do you then think it's a problem that black people commit the majority of the crime? Probably not, because you're only able to think rationally when it doesn't confirm your biases. Obviously there is much more to both of these issues but I'm glad your stupid stats added nothing to the argument.

Imagine not being able to think critically.

"ISIS" (Apple Pie Terrorists) didn't murder 1000 Americans last year. It was cops.

But they also didn't maintain peace and order either. Also they're in a different country separated by an ocean. It's like comparing Nazis favorably to American mail men because they were responsible for less fatal car crashes in the United States.

Nobody is saying Isis is better than cops.

What we are saying is that it's dumb to spend so much effort on caring about Isis when they don't affect us, while there are issues closer to home.

It would be like if we were constantly complaining about tourist scams in Thailand, and meanwhile hundreds of thousands of packages were being stolen by postmen right here in the US every year.

But he's the one who brought up ISIS, no one was complaining about ISIS here. It's a bad comparison for so many reasons.

If cops are a problem for you, the chances that you're an idiot or 18 years old are very high.

Imagine trying to use a fad rap video to convince 14 year olds of your politics. Then imagine going home and having your spouse or significant other ask you what you did today and explaining the former with a smile on your face.

I have long proposed we replace the entire public school system with a new laptop sent to school-aged kids every 3 years and annual in-person tests.

Imagine trying to use a fad rap video to convince 14 year olds of your politics.

So, basically the alt-right?

You'll have to apprise me of what those retards have been doing because I'm not familiar.

It was just a knee jerk reaction from someone who is totally not reactionary.

Using a meme video as education material. Sound something weird shit a teacher trying to be hip.

And these same people will screech when Republicans torpedo Education

Imagine trying to use a fad rap video to convince 14 year olds of your politics. Then imagine going home and having your spouse or significant other ask you what you did today and explaining the former with a smile on your face.

I have long proposed we replace the entire public school system with a new laptop sent to school-aged kids every 3 years and annual in-person tests.

Func Childish Gumbimbo. Listen to your uncle Jim instead.

Dude teachers are the worst

I have no idea what “Gucci gang” is either. I’m only in my mid 30s too so I’m no dinosaur.

lmao this decrepit geezer doesnt even know how with it he isnt 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

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I came

Thank you for at least making the cancer enjoyable to scroll past

Lil Pump will never be black and so will never be a true hippity-hopper.

Yo lol

Why do you hate black people

They're course and rough and irritating, and they get everywhere.

Articulate basketball americans.

Meanwhile in East Asia, high school seniors are studying mathematics and sciences that American university students with relevant majors get to 3 years into university.

I wish I were exaggerating. Teachers in America, despite being literally years behind countries with far less funded education programs, are teaching American rap videos in class time and treating their class discussions like an /r/politics post.

This is probably one of the biggest problems in America, and a guy got downvoted to -1000 for suggesting that there is little educational merit to showing students a rap video.

I don’t think anyone is surprised by American teachers being retarded, that’s basically been a given forever

Yeah our education system is utter shit. All I get emails for from my kids school relates to them urgently begging us to prepare our kids for more standardized testing. All the worksheets, classwork, and homework revolve around preparing them to do well on state tests so the schools don't lose funding. It has nothing to do with educating the kids or preparing them for life. Shit even gym class has been put to only twice a week, and they wonder why kids are fat as fuck.

It doesn't sound like they even effectively prepare them to excel at the tests though. The issue isn't "teaching to the test," the issue is that America's teachers are extremely low performing and overcompensated.

I literally received an email stating we needed to rally our children so the school could maintain a high enough testing average to not lose funding, I was floored.

We're actually basically the same as most of Western Europe. I know that Chinese kids do learn a fuckton of science and math, but the OP is actually exaggerating when he says that Americans get to it three years into university; they learn, like, the equivalent of AP Calc, which is something that most STEM majors have when they come in and will have in their first year.

Lol.

It might surprise you to learn that schools teach multiple subjects. In "East Asia" they also teach politics.

Yes, they teach all subjects at an accelerated rate. In the meantime American teachers show rap videos.

Then why do American students score better than Chinese ones on reading exams?

In reading scores, the world rankings go like this:

1.) Singapore

2.) Hong Kong

3.) Canada

4.) Finland

5.) Ireland

6.) Estonia

7.) Korea

8.) Japan

...

...

24.) United States

E F F E C T I V E E D U C A T I O N B O Y S

I mean, it also goes

  1. Spain
  2. Russian Federation ...and then half of all the OECD countries, including Switzerland, Austria, Iceland, and Luxembourg.

Also, do you know how to read? Netherlands-Taiwan on that list aren't significantly different from the US, statistically; this means that you could really say that the US is anywhere from 15th to 28th.

We rank above the OECD average in science too. I think that maybe--just maybe--we have time to show them a rap video as an in-class exercise in an English course.

acceptable

I'm glad you found a reasonable goal. While you guys stretch for "acceptable," despite spending 28% higher than the OECD average on education per student, East Asian countries will still be crushing you in maths and sciences, and even reading.

See, I started by comparing the US to East Asian countries, and now you're playing with the data and moving the goalposts to make the situation seem not as dire. You tried to show me a single example of the US beating an Asian country in one subject as some sort of counter-point, and now your argument has essentially boiled down to this:

The US is spending substantially more money to almost be average when compared to other OECD countries.

Good job. Show them more rap videos and have more useless class discussions. I'm sure Paulo Freire and Vygotsky are saluting you from Communist Heaven.

Communist heaven

TIL everything that isn't STEM is communism

this spending garbage

Doesn't really seem to correlate to educational success in any country. To bring up Switzerland, again, they spend more than we do per student.

I'll also add that the US education system has more rural schools than a lot of the generally smaller and more urbanized OECD countries and, in turn, has to build and maintain more relatively small schools in rural areas; this will increase spending per student, both in terms of actual building maintenance and because you need a principal and shit at every school.

TIL everything that isn't STEM is communism

STEM has nothing to do with it, stupid. Do you even have any background in education research whatsoever?

American education programs are now so overwhelmingly based on socialist/communist lines of thought that it's actually embarrassing. That's why I'm bringing up Freire and Vygotsky, two socialists whose works are cited constantly in education related textbooks. It has nothing to do with STEM, and that you immediately thought of that shows you have zero reason to be discussing this topic.

No matter how you desperately try to spin it, Asian countries are kicking America's ass in almost every single possible way, and America keeps dropping at a constant slope. In the meantime, teachers are blaming this on everyone they can while applying ineffective pedagogy.

You may want to stick to topics you actually know a thing or two about, like the 457 Tumblr genders.

I mean teachers jobs in America is to indoctrinate children and accept shitty pay, is it any surprise they're this agenda driven and reactionary?

I'm so sick of hearing that guy's name.

On an unrelated note; this is absolutely perfect.

I swear nothing is more /r/FellowKids material than a mid-late 20's teacher.

I dunno, one of my favorite teachers was in his early 30s and pretty cool. He didn't do any fellowkids shit besides let us watch South Park one time, back when it was edgy and felt semi-relevant, but otherwise he was great. He introduced me to Pynchon, Dillard, and John Okada and he got me interested in literature as art and writing for its own sake; so that was cool.

He introduced me to Pynchon

child abuse right there

Man, it's a good music video, but people have gotten way too obsessed. It's not some high art, you aren't so woke for liking it. And the idea that people would show this in class to discuss race relations? Seems like a sad way to try to relate to the kids.

I mean, i think Childish Gambino is a shitty rapper, but there's a proud tradition of teachers tossing out vaguely relevant but entertaining videos to keep the kids paying attention while they try to explain a deeper topic.

Shit, i'm pretty sure i saw titties in class once because the teacher showed Schindler's list while we were talking about WWII and the Holocaust.

u/SuperMario1313

I have a feeling you are a super white person trying to relate to the blacks/ pop culture. That ‘music’ video is terrible and has zero significance to anything. Sure you could try and derive some deeper meaning, but it doesn’t change anything. Just concentrate on teaching the basics, and don’t get too far into the weeds. Please remember to respect individualism and promote freedom of thought. Not everyone thinks the way you do nor should they, in a free society.

This is why we need school choice

Imagine choosing teaching as a profession just so you can make less than the janitor that empties your classroom trash twice a day.

/u/well-lighted

Really? You’ve never heard of Donald Glover? That’s pretty painfully out of touch, dude.

Imagine going to college for years, investing in a community, caring about your students, making sure they have the tools they need to succeed and have great jobs... Then some dip shit on reddit calls you painfully out of touch with humanity because you don't like rap and don't know who one rapper is. Lol

The absolute state of millenials.

Out of touch use to be like not knowing how to operate a cell phone or computer, now it's not being part of some retards Fandom.

...Where did you even find this lmao

also ya I took one goofy pic of myself when I was 18 or so

Amazing I am so embarrass

lol im not upset. It took me less than 5 mins to find those photos.

than I did in conceiving your siblings

but you're gay tho

it took me less than 5 mins to find those photos

that's way more effort than I would have put in

but you're gay tho

listen i love bussy as much as everyone else but

that's way more effort than I would have put in

I know. I read your comments in that r/teachers thread

Exactly. I don't tend to put in much effort in engaging with people who clearly aren't arguing in good faith.

I was arguing in good faith. It just happened to be the unpopular argument.

You literally said that the instructor was ruining Childish Gambino for his students by having them analyze one of his music videos as an exercise

And I explained my answer in detail. You may disagree with my opinion but you still look the way you do.

you may disagree with my opinion but you still look the way you do

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To be fair, if I had them do more than I had asked them to do it, I think it may have killed the my students' enthusiasm for that video. I only asked them to respond to the video and a criticism of it through a 10-minute think-pair-share and a one-page response. They were free to agree with the Glover's claims, disagree with aspects of it, identify and analyze imagery or symbols throughout, or even complain that its popularity is unjustifiable and is blown out of proportion.

Gallagher's Article of the Week assignment, which this all fell under in my class, is just to bring awareness to the students and allow the students to read and write on relevant and often-times controversial subjects.

Oh okay. Good job. Keep up the good work.

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