That's your contribution to an intelligent discussion? A vague, unspecified criticism, accompanied by an implicitly self-aggrandizing bit of arrogant dismissiveness?
Q1 )I have been trying to quit my masturbation addiction for 2 years and no amount of different techniques are helping. Do you have any advice on quitting a porn addiction?
I'm aware you spoke on how to quit addictions in general, but I think a porn addiction is extra hard to quit because of the fact that its intertwined with ones sexual urges.
Q2) What do you think of Islam, and the very high birthrate of Muslims in Europe? Do you think Europe can maintain its western culture in the next few hundred years?
Why am I not surprised the guy who wants to quit masturbation thinks Muslims are taking over Europe? He's clearly jealous of their successful anti-porn laws.
Lol of course he got that from reading the cosmic serpent. Basically the book is equivalent to a college student taking psychedelics for the first time and thinking they are super woke. Memerson is trying way too hard to be the next Carl Jung when in fact many of what Jung said was baseless bullshit he pulled out of his ass and hallucinations he desperately tried to give meaning.
I'm not even sure what your point is. Yeah I'd rather sleep with a dakimakura of my waifu Renge-chan than with some random 3D slut but that doesn't mean I'm desperate, it's the opposite, it implies that I have standards.
There's literally a button in the text box which changes it to the markdown editor. Might be behind a retarded dropdown now, but it's there, and Reddit rmemebers our choice regarding it.
on mobile? bullhokey
Redesign is desktop only.
and they widened right sidebar too. for no reason.
For readabillity reasons lol.
that's retarded and does nothing to address any of my needs
Your problem is that there isn't CSS. That is addressable by the fact that it's an alpha and it's a planned feature.
notice how on the first one, most of the user's comments are hidden, replaced by some of the comments they're responding to
Dr. Peterson I shoved 12 Rules to Live By deep inside my bussy and I still have no motivation to clean my room, would a vial of your sperm be more effective?
It's a good question. Has he ever acknowledged the fact that a cult has formed around him and his 'self-help', or is he just content with raking in the attention and patreonbux? You'd think that someone who actually cares about helping people help themselves would tell his sycophants to stop letting him think for them.
If they are taking individual responsibility for themselves then why are they letting some random professor tell them what to believe/how to think and defending everything he says regardless of whether or not it's true? And why is there a fixation on blaming 'cultural marxism' for society's problems and in extension their's?
It's really another one of those situations where the fanbase is just overwhelmingly shit. And it's annoying that he plays along with his little youtube tards too. His opinions on women are pretty well documented, he thinks that they are better off living traditionally feminine roles, because women have deeply ingrained archetypes that make them irrational, emotional, and chaotic. No matter how many times he makes his views on this crystal clear, you will STILL get his apologists climbing out of the woodworks to let you know that you're 'taking him out of context' or 'falling for a hitpiece'.
The number of people purposefully misrepresenting, misinterpreting and utterly misunderstanding the devices of speech this man employs is astounding.
And itâs ironic that itâs mostly people who study humanities, people who you would think would have a well-calibrate cognitive spectrum to comprehend nuanced views he is restoring into a social zeitgeist.
And this intensity and near-fatal urgency with which these people are placing him on pedestal of villainy only confirms emptiness of their ideology and moral compass.
Itâs quite sad for anyone there thinking there is an intellectual battle going on⊠a duel of ideas or somethingâŠ
It's weird from the outside, but it always happens when cults form around people. Before it became a meme, 4-d chess was what trump fans would say to anyone who would point out the contradictions in Trump's rhetoric and platform.
He was actually received way better than I expected. He only has two answers in the negatives out of 47 answers. Everything else has either hundreds or thousands of upvotes.
Bill Nye's most recent AMA went way worse, with 13 out of 30 of his answers in the negatives.
It must be cool to say shit and then later when you're questioned about it say that's not what you meant and have an army of people to argue that on your behalf.
One common motif in Egyptian symbology is two snakes intertwined in such a way that they resemble the spiral helix of a DNA molecule. Peterson is not just a self-help guru but is also a professor of psychology. He gets paid to teach his students that the Egyptians made their snake symbols resemble DNA on purpose.
Have you ever read any ancient Egyptian texts? They left behind their entire metaphysics among many other things and there's nothing even closely resembling a reference to DNA or anything else that nutcases ascribe to them. It's one of the few ancient cultures that documented their belief system at length and yet so many people still try to read crazy shit into it. Buy the fucking Book of the Dead and/or Coffin Texts and read it. There's absolutely no reference to anything that can remotely resemble DNA. Their symbols relate to their religion and metaphysics, which are no mystery. This is so stupid.
A lot of ancient motifs and symbols, even the ones that were borrowed from nature, did have metaphysical meanings behind them, and there's a school of philosophy that examines things like that. But 'the ancients knew about DNA' kind of comments are literally both History Channel- and New Age-tier. It's somebody coming across a symbol that was meaningful to people in the past and going 'well this looks like DNA and the ancients were equipped with some sort of mystical insight that has been lost to time so they must have known about DNA!'. It imposes contemporary scientific knowledge on old meaningful symbols because for whatever reason there's no way that ancient people could find things meaningful for different reasons than we do. I'm not communicating my message well but I don't care because the standards have been lowered by this stupid bullshit.
It's textbook presentism. Just like the economist in the AMA was saying, Peterson is talking outside of his area of expertise (in this case History) and often falls for common fallacies that people actually trained in the field avoid.
He gets paid to teach his students that the Egyptians made their snake symbols resemble DNA on purpose.
I have to keep explaining it to you heathens: G-d made amorous snakes entwine in a double helix sort of way (because how else, really, like, you got two snakes who want to entwine, that's what you get usually) to symbolize two strands of DNA. Egyptians just used the symbolism inserted by the Almighty into the very structure of reality!
did he explicitely say bazis were atheist? because, while that isnât true, nazi doctrine certainly wasnât in line with christian and western traditions, and it was heavily based off nietzscheâs idea of humans taking the moral place of god
For anyone interested, besttrousers also did a takedown of Peterson's "women entering the labor force resulted in a decrease of wages" in the comments of this post.
I'm honestly not sure what you're talking about. Are you referring to this reply in which Integralds asked a question? Or this reply in which gorbachev took issue with a single point, and besttrousers ended up agreeing? Nearly every reply to the comment I linked was an honest question that he or someone else answered. Nobody took him down.
I never called him an expert, so I don't know where you pulled those quote marks from. I believed a reddit post because it was well argued and well sourced.
What the fuck are you on about, man? Was that reply meant for an entirely different comment, or do you just get off on making short "haha ur stupid" comments without actually pointing to an argument or making one yourself? If you have a reason to disbelieve what he said or one of his sources, just say that. Vague, pointless insults makes you look lazy, cowardly, or both.
I'm talking about the AMA post you colossal fucking retard, and you're high and holy AMA post literally says "controlling for occupation is flawed so actually there is a wage gap" but in 3 paragraphs which has conveniently enough tricked you.
"I made a string of vague, incoherent ramblings that you misunderstood, you must be a colossal fucking retard."
Not sure why you responded to me if you were talking about the AMA, especially considering I linked to an entirely different thread, but hey, you don't seem to be in the business of making sense.
Funnily enough, you don't actually know my position on the wage gap, because I never said it. The thread I linked to was about women entering the workforce, and I didn't congratulate him on the AMA. You're basing all of this inane drivel off of nothing.
But hey, maybe controlling for occupation is flawed. If there is gender discrimination in a particular industry, it makes sense that women would be less inclined to go into that field. I'm not really sure one way or another, and I plan on reading more on it, but I'm glad to see you have your feet dug into the cement and your head dug into the sand.
By the way, that first reply got another reply, taking down the reply I assume you were referring to.
Look, man, I know you're right, and your high and holy answers are the objectively correct ones and all, but have you ever considered for a second that you might be wrong? A near impossibility, no doubt, especially coming from a stupid retard such as myself, but a possibility nonetheless.
By the way, do you get beat up at school a lot? You sound like you get beat up at school a lot.
But hey, maybe controlling for occupation is flawed. If there is gender discrimination in a particular industry, it makes sense that women would be less inclined to go into that field
Imagine being this retarded. What kind of cardboard 3rd world shithole you living out of if you think women can't get jobs in certain fields because of discrimination ? Yeah women aren't picking garbage industries like construction because the work is hard , noo its because of meanies :(
Hey jackass, you're pulling words I never said out of your ass and arguing with them again. That entire paragraph was you talking to yourself. You also conveniently ignored the part where I said that I didn't really have a stance either way, and that I planned on researching further. I guess acknowledging what I said would really fuck up your ability to write these garbage "gotcha's."
By the way, Study showing a hiring bias in favor of men, and Another study with similar results. That one goes more in depth with how the subjects viewed the resumĂšs. And for good measure, neither of those studies were for labor-intense jobs such as construction, so there's another way in which you're wrong.
Wow, that sure does make your whole "GgggrrrrrRRR women only experience discrimination in countries I don't live in!!" tirade look kinda fuckin stupid, huh?
Anyway, I can't wait for your next response in which you find a single snippit of a sentence I wrote that you can take out of context so you can argue with an argument I never made, only to be wrong about that too.
But hey, I'm glad you've toned back the anger in this reply, with 100% fewer requests for me to get raped. Almost like you realized you said stupid shit and decided you couldn't act as smug as you did earlier, in fear that it would happen again. Keep up that improving attitude of yours!
That's what makes the dunking even better. If Jimbo can't effectively argue against the idea of a wage gap - an idea that his fans and most redditors don't believe in - he's exposing himself as the as the pseudointellectual poseur he truly is.
Listen, it's up to you to show any evidence that I'm not the worst guy in the steam room who refuses to give handies, but always begs for one on my tiny dick hidden in my fat rolls.
Obviously the most salient factor has been that the actors have always had penises. Not that the show has overarching narratives or anything like that.
His trick is sometimes he says stuff backed by evidence such as the gender pay gap being mostly down to fields and the fact that women get pregnant and miss work and men don't. Thus, kkkapitalism isn't creating an oppressive system to destroy females. Then a new cultist picks up some self help books and actually cleans his room.
Then Memerson says "NAZI's were atheists and anti-religious". Now, to the non-cultist this is a retarded statement. However, once you're in and you've become attached to his works you feel no choice but to defend the retarded statement.
Weren't many of the Nazis into some weird esoteric occultism focused on Nordic pagan traditions and "aryanism"? Seems like some people such as Himmler really disliked Christianity because of the shared religious tradition with the Jews.
But nazi were anti religion. Hillyer said National Socialism and Christianity are irreconcilable. Goebbels and himmler were both anti christianity too. Nazi banned small religions like jehovah witness and persecuted larger ones like Catholics.
They even had a movement called Positive Christianity which they tried to impose. Positive Christianity removed the "jewey" from christianity, jesus was after all a aryan Roman not a jew they claim, it removed also the divinity of christ, Apostle's Creed, supernatural elements and any semitic origins.
I think he's half n half, listening to him talk about psychology related stuff is always interesting, but every now and then he'll say some silly religious shit that raises an eyebrow
Maybe there's something I'm not understanding here but does the first comment you see at the top have an upvote count in the single digits? And there are some below it with slightly more and some of the ones with the most upvotes are towards the bottom for me. It's like this when I log out and look at it too.
on a serious note his long comment on Marxism and postmodernism is actually a bit silly
Noting that power struggles govern society and being concerned for the marginalized predate Karl Marx by quite a few years... Like in the Bible that Peterson is crazy about. Was Jesus a Marxist?
He's not being clear enough in his language. The idea that literally every human interaction is a power-struggle is one that has roots in Foucault and Machiavelli but really didn't see wide-scale embrace until the Marxists came along. The post-modernist philosophy revolves around the idea whereas Marxism is a much broader school of thought which focuses more on economic theory than philosophy.
So not everyone who believes power struggles govern or impact society is a Marxist or a post-modernist but most people who think that power struggles govern or impact society and that even individual interactions are just extensions of collectivist power struggles (defined by the respective classes and/or race, gender, orientation, etc. of the individuals involved) are Marxists or post-modernists.
He often admits fault for stuff like this. He says that his own personality (according to the "big 5") is not what he'd like it to be, and that he'd be better off if he was more conscientious. Hearing him get sidetracked or going off on some tangentially related adjacent for 30 minutes when giving a speech is pretty common.
That being said, it's really strange that he doesn't focus more on precision in his language since he knows how much scrutiny he's under and often emphasizes the growing problem with "political correctness". At least Kanye and Trump actually have an excuse (they either don't give a shit or arguably aren't capable of being precise). I expect better from internet daddy.
Sometimes in Maps of Meaning it's hard to tell if he's simply elaborating on the meta-narratives he bases his worldview on and using relevant academic research to support his points or if he means to mostly focus on what the research says and just places it in context with the other things he's talking about so people can relate to it better.
The cynical obsession with power-struggles has roots in Foucault and Machiavelli (and goes back to at least the Melian Dialogue in ancient Greece) but really didn't see wide-scale embrace until the Marxists and Fascists came along.
generally when one says something "has roots" in a specific figure, that person was supposed to have existed before the other things in your timeline, not after
I just think the idea wasn't really well-developed until Foucault and Machiavelli but you can argue that their beliefs are derivative of older ideas on some level.
That's what I mean. Disregard my imprecise language.
it's just really weird to lump together two writers that are separated by hundreds of years like that, is my point. especially when youre tying them to political movements that emerged centuries after one of them died and decades before the other started writing. it's just not a very coherent narrative.
Well sometimes the stages in which ideas are developed are separated by a very long period of time and the people who develop them the most can be separated by hundreds or even thousands of years. Isn't that pretty common in philosophy? Political movements can come along at any time and pick and choose which philosophical ideas to adopt. Just because the timeline isn't short doesn't mean it isn't coherent.
Machiavelli's theories on power formed the foundation of the school of realism in International Affairs. I think his ideas of power struggle generally refer to one society, civilization, or state versus another but he did also talk extensively about human motivation/self-interest and power struggles within a regime. At that point he was talking about it within the context of a government.
Marx extrapolated the concept of power struggle to be one between classes within a society. The post-modernists not only changed and broadened which collectives or social orders constituted "classes" (which vied for power with one another in a society) within the same framework but were also the first ones to propose that all individual interactions between people are extensions of collective class struggles.
he never denies the existence of power struggles and agree hierarchies tend towards tyranny he just claims the removal of these is much worse for society in general
That's a non-point given that forming hierarchies is a part of human behavior though. There will be hierarchies in whatever social group humans form. The fact that he's afraid that there can even be a removal of hierarchies is pretty dumb.
its not dumb because thats what a lot of left wing people would describe as an ideal world. like you said hierarchies are human nature so it would be very painful to force humans to live against their nature
A world without hierarchies where everyone gets along would be ideal. But what is the threat here? Why would somebody by threatened by the idea of something ceasing to exist when it will happen naturally regardless of what happens? Why is the idea that we need hierarchies so important when they'll develop regardless of what happens? The only group of people who explicitly wants to eliminate hierarchies is extremely small to the point of being near-irrelevant, so why the big panic? Why is this an important topic when it would naturally sort itself out?
Why would you or whoever is getting worked up get worked up over something that is not only a non-issue given that only radicals want it but is impossible?
No, but he's definitely cashing in on it. It got started by some paleoconservatives a while back and has made a resurgence as of late among self-proclaimed classical liberals and the far right.
He is an academic at a prestigious university (or at least was). He is an intellectual, though you could argue that his field has little to do with what he's saying now.
As far as I'm aware an intellectual is someone who professionally engages in what you'd call intellectual pursuits. A professor definitely qualifies as an intellectual. Also, UofT is one of the best universities in the world, and the best in Canada.
I would disagree. He is clearly biased which means he does not pursue new knowledge. He instead doubles down on what he believes. To be an intellectual you have to constantly question your beliefs. You never become set in your ways.
That's your contribution to an intelligent discussion? A vague, unspecified criticism, accompanied by an implicitly self-aggrandizing bit of arrogant dismissiveness?
Tbh, you're probably right. Some THICCness started hanging out at my house when I was younger and was super helpful. Turned out she was chatting mom up on a daily basis and ended up staying with us for a few months.
He literally puts out videos on youtube where he talks about subjects he has no education or authority in. That's by definition a psuedo intellectual youtuber, regardless of what his day job is.
Are you...are you not looking at the AMA? Literally has quotes from all his video appearances where he's made incorrect statements about subjects he's got no expertise in.
History: Atheism caused Nazism; twin snakes in ancient Egypt is dna symbol
Philosophy: his whole stick about "postmodern neomarxism" (a concept that cannot exist fundamentally)
Economics: women entering the workforce lowers men's salaries
I've been asking for someone to link me this the entire time, I'm dying to see his egyptian thing response in the thread but nobody will fucking link it to me.
Because you're lazy and won't go into the thread. It's an upvoted top level comment.
Why can't it exist?
Marxism is a modernist philosophy Post-modernism states modernist philosophies are incorrect. "Postmodern Neomarxism" makes as much sense as "Scientific creationism" (hint, there's nothing scientific about creationism).
More available workers = More replacability = Lower wages. It's the same thing with immigration depressing wages.
Because you're lazy and won't go into the thread. It's an upvoted top level comment.
In case you didn't notice the thread is a clusterfuck you dipshit.
Marxism is a modernist philosophy Post-modernism states modernist philosophies are incorrect. "Postmodern Neomarxism" makes as much sense as "Scientific creationism" (hint, there's nothing scientific about creationism)
He litterally explained this in the thread. Instead of being lazy, go in the thread and look.
It's actually not I once again urge you to actually read the AMA before trying to argue with people in this thread. I'm well aware of what the links say, because unlike you I'm actually reading the thread. His responses to these questions were, like you, stupid.
1.) Do you have the dna helix comment/reply or not?
2.) That's a cute way to avoid adressing
People went from one breadwinner and a housewife, into 2 people working being nessesary.
Or are you going to say that 1 person working families are possible now?
The DNA thing is ahistorical garbage. Linking books about it doesn't change the fact that anyone who believes that ancient Egyptians knew about DNA is retarded.
Typical Memerson move to avoid being pinned down. He loves to be vague so that any time someone disagrees with him, he or his followers can claim that he is being misunderstood/misrepresented. He has legitimized the idea that the Egyptians knew about DNA by talking about it, and finding such a obviously retarded concept interesting (or plausible) is still incredibly dumb.
I'm starting to think that Peterson is being intellectually dishonest on purpose instead of simply being bad at explaining his ideas clearly.
It's better move than all the spergs who lose their shit over him constantly trying to microanalize everything he says in an effort to come up with some retarded gotcha.
Nothing in this thread even remotely proves me wrong or you right.
That's the reason you're actually afraid to say why I'm wrong and you're right by using words, and instead rely on linking the thread, hoping that nobody will actually bother reading it, well smartass, here's a link proving why I'm right.
Educating retards is part of my job so I don't feel like wasting my shitposting time on that too.
If you'd actually read the posts in the thread I linked you'd know why you're wrong now :)
Nope. Peterson is a solid academic and decent public intellectual who sometimes states conjecture and wild speculations way too confidently. The problem is that he'll frequently jump from reasonable premises to his own opinions seamlessly, creating the impression he's
Trying to make a bullet proof argument or statement of fact (when in reality, he seems very open to revision and correction)
Intentionally peddling bullshit.
The issue is that clinical psychology (his area of expertise) allows room for this type of thing, but other disciplines absolutely do not.
The issue is that clinical psychology (his area of expertise) allows room for this type of thing
Not in research psych, at least not a half-decent university. I imagine that if he didn't have tenure he would've gotten shitcanned as soon as he suggested that hard Jungian thought still has a place in the literature. He reminds me of that continental philosopher who got arrested for sexually assaulting a profoundly disabled man because she had a discredited theory about cognition and disability but nobody could stop her because she had tenure and published regularly.
Both are good, true. An evacuation of all Jewish princesses with fulsome bushes and all big assed Latinas must be undertaken, then the nuclear hellfire can begin.
Dr Who, the longest running science fiction television show in history, has just seen a change in the casting of the main character: The Doctor. For the first time, the main character will be portrayed by a female, the wonderful actress Jodie Whittaker.
Personally, I don't know what to make of it. I see Dr Who as a show absolutely packed with archetypes, especially concerning the main hero.
Do you think this is a deliberate deconstruction of the archetypes surrounding The Doctor? Do you see this change as political, or motivated by political correctness?
Also, many people are upset about this. Including myself. I've been wondering if there is anything wrong about me, but I just can't reconcile it with myself. Do you think that people who oppose this change are sexist?
With Chibnall taking over it might actually become watchable for people over 12 again. Not that those retards complaining about Whittaker would like that.
no more random than any other replacement, it's been canon for a while that the doctor can be any gender. yes i hate that "doctor who rules of succession" is something i have any knowledge of, it wasnt information i absorbed by choice.
ghostbusters wasnât bad because they got women, not even because of the specific women they picked. though that definitely became its whole âsellingâ point and was obviously intentional, which just seems tacky
ghostbusters was bad because they went with a weird low-concept Paul Rudd direction, draping loose skin over the skeleton of a focused, super high-concept 80s blockbuster
ghostbusters wasnât bad because they got women, not even because of the specific women they picked. though that definitely became its whole âsellingâ point and was obviously intentional, which just seems tacky
the entire idea was "ghostbusters with women" though, it didnt have anything else
they were experimenting with abuse of outrage
they deliberately make it look shit with women in it, and then respond to complaints with "look at all these women haters, lets show them who the majority is by all going to see this new movie on opening day"
youll notice that shit happens all the time now, its genuinely the main reason they always overdo the diversity stuff
"put a black guy in, then we can call everyone racist and get activists emotionally involved"
its insulting tbh, but apparently saves money on writing
the entire idea was "ghostbusters with women" though, it didnt have anything else
actually, it was less than that. and more! the movie is 30 minutes longer than the original, but actually has considerably less plot and development of the primary characters. and bc the apparent lack of written dialogue didnât screw up that pacing well enough, they tacked on lilâ side-scenes that they thought could have some sort of comedy potential.
but even with as shallow an idea as âgenderswapped Ghostbustersâ is, they could even have been a remake of the original, with improvisation allowed but curated, with the new cast and it would have been much better. itâd be nearly worthless as a film, but itâd be at least be much more watchable.
but yeah Sony marketed it as âsexists HATE itâ big time, same thing they did with Kim Jong Un. fuck âem.
Not that Iâm being a sheep or anything, since I already have an opinion about him. I donât really follow JBP, but I appreciate what he has to say, and find it hilarious that leftists think that this very moderate person is somehow a preacher to the alt-right and incels.
JP is super interesting to me because the amount of vitriolic hatred he gets combined with the amount of over the top, creepy-bordering-on-religious fanboyism he gets is all completely out of proportion to the fact that nothing he says is really that new, groundbreaking or controversial.
Yes, but I've never in my life seen someone show up to my house and yell and scream and holler because of how much of a retard I am. And frankly, that's kind of insulting that they don't bother.
The Oracles of Delphi's prophecies were often correct because they were vague AF, so when you looked back at what was said they were always 'right' and they made tons of money.
JBP is vague enough and never fully commits to many out-there/edgy ideas so he has plausible deniability at all times and his cult worships it. People who try to counter just get sucked into the his little snare of "i only threw that idea out there, I didn't commit to it".
So everyone engaged is a retard, but if he makes money off of it, more power to him.
Heâs great because he talks about basic self help shit that has been proving successful in getting NEETS motivated to do something about themselves. Aside from that he seems pretty dry and verbose so itâs strange the scale of the following he has. He probably wouldnât be as famous as he is if it wasnât for the lefts infinite outrage.
This one time he said he refuses to be forced by the gubmint to call a tranny her desired name so since then heâs had an immense amount of hatred directed at him by far left types. In addition he hates commies and they canât seem to let it go.
I still don't know if he actually believes in Jung or just memeing at this point, so he has my respect on being a probable troll I can't read - since believing in Psychoanalysis is the best way to troll modern psych people.
I don't know if he's going to go the way of black science man though, there's similar patterns but it's too early.
BUT, the biggest takeaway from this shit is his fans.
Good god man, the amount of pseudointellectual faggotry in that thread alone could sustain me for hours.
This is the guy who has everyoneâs panties in a bunch? Heâs boring as f what the hell I expected him to be advocating gassing trannyâs the way reddit talks about him
I finally get it, memerson is the right wing Bill Mahr. He's pretty fucking dumb but sometimes breaks the mold. And most of his critics are even fucking dumber which hides his dumbness.
Its funny because hes been taking anti-depressents most of his life- theres an interview where he talks about it. Somehow he never mentions that in his "fix your depressing existence" lectures.
There's no stopping people who lack sufficient imagination from being sensationalistic. I don't think these are "fanboys," either (although perhaps they sometimes are).
Jordan Peterson absolutely RAPES FEMINIST IN THE FACE with facts and BENDS HER OVER AND FISTS HER WITH BRASS KNUCKLES with logic. Proceeds to LITERALLY CURBSTOMP debate moderator with his calm demeanor. PETERSON BTFO FEMINIST COMPILATION #127363
Memerson is a such a fucking B-tier pseudo intellectual. It's no wonder he appeals to the kind of dipshits that think "clean your room" is groundbreaking advice.
The âclean your roomâ part is an epigram for sorting your life out before trying to revolutionize the world; heâs arguing that the young impressional Antifa and marxists are too young and inexperienced to understand how the world works and how it should run - hence heâs saying that you should get your life in order at least before trying to implement large scale economic theories: e.g: Communism.
This bears similarities to what Socrates said in Book 6 of the Republic of Plato, the ship of state, where he asks Antigone - if i recall correctly: âIf you were on a ship who would you think would be best to choose the captain of that ship? Anyone or experienced seamen and naval commanders?â He of course replies the latter. Thus Socrates asks why he believes that just anyone should be able to vote for a leader of a country. Socratesâ point is not that we should only allow politicians and the like to vote, but rather we should teach others critical thinking so that they have the necessary skills in order to think critically and make thought-out conclusions.
This relates to JbP âclean your roomâ because âcleaning your room.â Is about learning and sorting out your own life in order to be able to think critically and grow as an individual.
I think itâs quite outlandish to state that he is a âB-tier intellectualâ. - while i do agree that in some circumstances he makes weak points; see his debate with Matt Dillahunty, for example. He is a Professor at the University at Toronto, holds a Doctorate and studied at Harvard. I donât think we should just dismiss people as unintelligent if we disagree with them; especially if their talents and qualifications act as axiomatic evidence against that. As it just results in stubborn opinions and prejudice.
How does the way i write or talk redact from what i am saying. This digs into the âpseudo-intellectualâ point also:
The content of someones words should not be determined by the style nor the words used nor the person saying them. Whilst you may be able to decipher some great prejudice of their intelligence based upon it. It doesnât mean what they say is correct. Hence it draws worthless conclusions about what someone is saying without cause for the content of what they are saying.
The words i used in both of all of the responses are accurate, the reason i used âepigramâ over âa witty or clever expression of an ideaâ is wholly because it uses less characters for the same expression.
It just makes you sound like a try hard dork. Your first post could literally be reduced to 'It means sort your life out before you criticise others, not literally clean your room' and for your second you should have just said 'fuck you faget'
Yes that is correct. But those people who revolutionized the world were not usually 18 year olds with no jobs, qualifications or experiences. And if they were they did not change it in the same way that i stated: âlarge scale economic theories.â
The issue with C-16 is that it forced you to use specific language. Quite a few countries have âHate speech lawsâ whereby you are punished for saying something offensive. C-16 goes past that point and says if you do not use that language. Thereâs a large difference between being punished for saying something and for being punished for not saying something; it controls speech.
If it was not worded the way it is, and thus you were not obligated under law to speak in a certain manner, then he wouldnât have - or he would have less of a problem with the bill.
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1 better_bot 2018-05-25
Strap in, bucko.
1 MG87 2018-05-25
I asked him too.
1 tfdidido 2018-05-25
What a lil bitch
1 HauntedFurniture 2018-05-25
His replies are definitely getting passive-aggressive
1 better_bot 2018-05-25
How would you feel having to talk to thousands of redditors at once?
1 HauntedFurniture 2018-05-25
Genocidal probably
1 dnkndnts 2018-05-25
*mayocidal
1 pepperouchau 2018-05-25
Well duh I'd never agree to it in the first place
1 Zizac 2018-05-25
Sounds like every criticism he's attempted to levy against """"post modern neomarxists""""
1 better_bot 2018-05-25
I love when daddy pushes his serpent deep.
1 lickedTators 2018-05-25
I'm aware you spoke on how to quit addictions in general, but I think a porn addiction is extra hard to quit because of the fact that its intertwined with ones sexual urges.
Why am I not surprised the guy who wants to quit masturbation thinks Muslims are taking over Europe? He's clearly jealous of their successful anti-porn laws.
1 Pastelitomaracucho 2018-05-25
T.amerifat
1 Wraith_GraveSpell 2018-05-25
Lol of course he got that from reading the cosmic serpent. Basically the book is equivalent to a college student taking psychedelics for the first time and thinking they are super woke. Memerson is trying way too hard to be the next Carl Jung when in fact many of what Jung said was baseless bullshit he pulled out of his ass and hallucinations he desperately tried to give meaning.
1 SnapshillBot 2018-05-25
I'm not even sure what your point is. Yeah I'd rather sleep with a dakimakura of my waifu Renge-chan than with some random 3D slut but that doesn't mean I'm desperate, it's the opposite, it implies that I have standards.
Snapshots:
I am a bot. (Info / Contact)
1 better_bot 2018-05-25
!reroll
1 Rachel_Hazmat 2018-05-25
u/drjordanbpeterson how tiny is ur penis? đđ
1 SAC-Lawn_Gnome 2018-05-25
He posted a link to old Reddit here, smdh u/drjordanbpeterson
1 reallyrunningnow 2018-05-25
The one issue we all can agree with. (Serious post - redesign sucks)
1 pitterpatterwater 2018-05-25
unironically die yourself.
1 22333444455555666666 2018-05-25
"lets put a bunch of empty white space between everything" -reddit retards
1 better_bot 2018-05-25
That's unfair. They also gave us the option of empty black space.
#woke
1 grungebot5000 2018-05-25
huge-ass sidebars
relative links replaced with stupid picture-in-picture browsing that just makes everything more cramped
no CSS tricks, including greentexting
need to expand threads on profiles
markdown no longer an option, tried to introduce entrenched userbase to modern GUI
stripped-down, yet still cluttered on small screens. m.reddit but worse
it STINKS
1 pitterpatterwater 2018-05-25
You retard, markdown is an option. literally just click ont he button to go to markdown mode.
1 grungebot5000 2018-05-25
the "GO TO OLD REDDIT" button? I've never looked at the text box on purpose.
on mobile? bullhokey
and they widened right sidebar too. for no reason.
that's retarded and does nothing to address any of my needs
https://www.reddit.com/u/grungebot5000
https://old.reddit.com/u/grungebot5000
notice how on the first one, most of the user's comments are hidden, replaced by some of the comments they're responding to
Not with that header it doesn't
1 pitterpatterwater 2018-05-25
There's literally a button in the text box which changes it to the markdown editor. Might be behind a retarded dropdown now, but it's there, and Reddit rmemebers our choice regarding it.
Redesign is desktop only.
For readabillity reasons lol.
Your problem is that there isn't CSS. That is addressable by the fact that it's an alpha and it's a planned feature.
Lol they aren't.
Scroll past the header lol.
1 grungebot5000 2018-05-25
no
1 literallydontcaree 2018-05-25
You're objectively wrong.
1 HaulOfChina 2018-05-25
[lol] (https://old.reddit.com/r/JordanPeterson/comments/8m22xr/hi_all_my_ama_starts_at_1100_am_eastern_today/dzk7e1u/)
1 Strictlybutters 2018-05-25
Dr. Peterson I shoved 12 Rules to Live By deep inside my bussy and I still have no motivation to clean my room, would a vial of your sperm be more effective?
1 Rachel_Hazmat 2018-05-25
Pls answer this question u/drjordanbpeterson đŻđ©
1 newcomer_ts 2018-05-25
My question is out there now...
I predict 100 downvotes before AMA is done.
1 snallygaster 2018-05-25
It's a good question. Has he ever acknowledged the fact that a cult has formed around him and his 'self-help', or is he just content with raking in the attention and patreonbux? You'd think that someone who actually cares about helping people help themselves would tell his sycophants to stop letting him think for them.
1 better_bot 2018-05-25
Especially considering how hard he gets for Nietzsche.
Meanwhile on youtube: "10 times Peterson went ABSOLUTELY SAVAGE and told us to think for ourselves."
1 Chicup 2018-05-25
Meh leading the question.
1 siempreloco31 2018-05-25
Memerson fans need to read some Kierkegaard
1 GunOfSod 2018-05-25
A cult ... telling people to take individual responsibility for themselves.
1 snallygaster 2018-05-25
If they are taking individual responsibility for themselves then why are they letting some random professor tell them what to believe/how to think and defending everything he says regardless of whether or not it's true? And why is there a fixation on blaming 'cultural marxism' for society's problems and in extension their's?
1 GunOfSod 2018-05-25
I assume they've weighed the evidence and come to their own conclusions as to what to believe. Perhaps you can ask them all individually?
1 snallygaster 2018-05-25
The reason that research even exists is so that people don't have to waste their time and money trying to do this...
1 GunOfSod 2018-05-25
Ok, so maybe they all looked at research as well.
1 automatic_chuck 2018-05-25
My question is better. đđđ
1 Standard12 2018-05-25
"and how many bleach you drink everyday"
Are you some kind of third world oik?
1 automatic_chuck 2018-05-25
?
1 Standard12 2018-05-25
Your comment is written poorly. Might have made sense if you just said "how many litres of bleach do you drink everyday".
1 automatic_chuck 2018-05-25
I've edited. Take a look. đđđ
1 Standard12 2018-05-25
Fucking A+
1 the_bass_saxophone 2018-05-25
Could be a second world oik, posting from Russia for half a loaf of poopershnickel and some cold borscht.
1 automatic_chuck 2018-05-25
Close enough.
1 the_bass_saxophone 2018-05-25
Ukraine and some perogies and lard? Belarus and some of whatever they eat there?
1 automatic_chuck 2018-05-25
Not an european.
đđđ
1 snallygaster 2018-05-25
n e recipes from your area?
1 automatic_chuck 2018-05-25
gimme your nudes first
1 snallygaster 2018-05-25
give recipes
1 automatic_chuck 2018-05-25
give pics
1 ChipChippersonAMA 2018-05-25
heres mine
1 COINTELPROxShareBlue 2018-05-25
It's really another one of those situations where the fanbase is just overwhelmingly shit. And it's annoying that he plays along with his little youtube tards too. His opinions on women are pretty well documented, he thinks that they are better off living traditionally feminine roles, because women have deeply ingrained archetypes that make them irrational, emotional, and chaotic. No matter how many times he makes his views on this crystal clear, you will STILL get his apologists climbing out of the woodworks to let you know that you're 'taking him out of context' or 'falling for a hitpiece'.
1 newcomer_ts 2018-05-25
Sorry, what is your point?
That he has an opinion you disagree with or that you think he holds an opinion that is harmful?
1 COINTELPROxShareBlue 2018-05-25
That he can say shit and make his stance known but people will argue he meant the exact opposite. I dunno it's weird
1 newcomer_ts 2018-05-25
Second time I'm self-referencing...
1 COINTELPROxShareBlue 2018-05-25
type like a normal person fag
1 newcomer_ts 2018-05-25
For a second there, I was under impression you are capable of a thought.
1 COINTELPROxShareBlue 2018-05-25
be honest, is this you?
https://i.redd.it/iqmedg34slny.jpg
1 newcomer_ts 2018-05-25
1 mygoodpostingalt 2018-05-25
1 newcomer_ts 2018-05-25
Indeed, never thought a retarded anime autist would find interest in complex shit above Grade 2 level...
1 mygoodpostingalt 2018-05-25
1 westofthetracks 2018-05-25
lmao
1 better_bot 2018-05-25
Learn the language or leave.
1 itsnotmyfault 2018-05-25
I'm the guy right below him in that linked convo.
Rate how autistic I sound on a scale from "normal person" to "fag".
1 COINTELPROxShareBlue 2018-05-25
you type like you aren't trying to ape people that are clearly far smarter than you so I say "normal person"
1 Snowayne2 2018-05-25
Like clockwork..
1 Osterion 2018-05-25
It's weird from the outside, but it always happens when cults form around people. Before it became a meme, 4-d chess was what trump fans would say to anyone who would point out the contradictions in Trump's rhetoric and platform.
1 noobthrowthisaway 2018-05-25
3 things i hate in this world: memerson fans, rick and morty fans, and weed culture
1 ChaddingTater 2018-05-25
you forgot yourself
1 noobthrowthisaway 2018-05-25
i didnt think that needed to be said
1 COINTELPROxShareBlue 2018-05-25
this but unironically
1 Awayfone 2018-05-25
I hate hater
1 captainpriapism 2018-05-25
lol tell us how you really feel
1 westofthetracks 2018-05-25
lol what a perfectly oblivious response
1 COINTELPROxShareBlue 2018-05-25
Jordan Peterson is one Reddit ass nigga
1 moondoggy101 2018-05-25
There is zero chance that the top upvoted questions will be leftists shitting on him and his responses get hundreds of downvotes each lol
1 Awayfone 2018-05-25
Can you brigade AMA? Like that comment posted by an r/economic mods is fill with r/badeconomics users
But ama are heavily promoted events that hit the front page so...
1 shallowm 2018-05-25
He was actually received way better than I expected. He only has two answers in the negatives out of 47 answers. Everything else has either hundreds or thousands of upvotes.
Bill Nye's most recent AMA went way worse, with 13 out of 30 of his answers in the negatives.
1 cheeZetoastee 2018-05-25
sort by top
sees egyptian dna thing
Oh, this gonna be good.
1 MG87 2018-05-25
His cultists are getting upset by that question too
1 -Mopsus- 2018-05-25
They're arguing that him saying "I think, and I really do believe that this is a representation of DNA" doesn't mean that he actually thinks it's DNA.
1 subpoutine 2018-05-25
like Marx but with a cultural agenda... đ€
1 grungebot5000 2018-05-25
egyptian DNA? is this a Kekui Cult thing
1 loperetti 2018-05-25
Nah, have you seen snakes fucking? That's philosophy
1 UmmahSultan 2018-05-25
One common motif in Egyptian symbology is two snakes intertwined in such a way that they resemble the spiral helix of a DNA molecule. Peterson is not just a self-help guru but is also a professor of psychology. He gets paid to teach his students that the Egyptians made their snake symbols resemble DNA on purpose.
1 OkThatsProblematic 2018-05-25
How many Egyps have you asked on the issue?
1 snallygaster 2018-05-25
Have you ever read any ancient Egyptian texts? They left behind their entire metaphysics among many other things and there's nothing even closely resembling a reference to DNA or anything else that nutcases ascribe to them. It's one of the few ancient cultures that documented their belief system at length and yet so many people still try to read crazy shit into it. Buy the fucking Book of the Dead and/or Coffin Texts and read it. There's absolutely no reference to anything that can remotely resemble DNA. Their symbols relate to their religion and metaphysics, which are no mystery. This is so stupid.
1 FearlessFlash 2018-05-25
Wouldn't it make more sense that they are like that because it's cool? Intertwined snakes looks cool as shit.
1 snallygaster 2018-05-25
A lot of ancient motifs and symbols, even the ones that were borrowed from nature, did have metaphysical meanings behind them, and there's a school of philosophy that examines things like that. But 'the ancients knew about DNA' kind of comments are literally both History Channel- and New Age-tier. It's somebody coming across a symbol that was meaningful to people in the past and going 'well this looks like DNA and the ancients were equipped with some sort of mystical insight that has been lost to time so they must have known about DNA!'. It imposes contemporary scientific knowledge on old meaningful symbols because for whatever reason there's no way that ancient people could find things meaningful for different reasons than we do. I'm not communicating my message well but I don't care because the standards have been lowered by this stupid bullshit.
1 AlveolarPressure 2018-05-25
It's textbook presentism. Just like the economist in the AMA was saying, Peterson is talking outside of his area of expertise (in this case History) and often falls for common fallacies that people actually trained in the field avoid.
1 celocanth13 2018-05-25
Because the Ancient Egyptians clearly had the technology to know what DNA is and what it looked like.
1 preserved_fish 2018-05-25
The Atlanteans who bequeathed them the symbol certainly knew about DNA.
1 WastelandCreature 2018-05-25
And the Altanteans learned about DNA from Aliens.
1 Wraith_GraveSpell 2018-05-25
Pff get you shit straight, it was a combination of the Lemurians, the Hyperboleans, and Annunaki.
1 Dajepierino 2018-05-25
Btw most of the time dna is not in a double helix shape
1 zergling_Lester 2018-05-25
I have to keep explaining it to you heathens: G-d made amorous snakes entwine in a double helix sort of way (because how else, really, like, you got two snakes who want to entwine, that's what you get usually) to symbolize two strands of DNA. Egyptians just used the symbolism inserted by the Almighty into the very structure of reality!
1 fyog 2018-05-25
wow
1 captainpriapism 2018-05-25
more realistic than black people being ancient egyptians or english
1 satanismyhomeboy 2018-05-25
The 'Nazis were atheists' one is good too
His flock is working overtime doing damage control
1 Mircy 2018-05-25
flock of lobsters?
1 satanismyhomeboy 2018-05-25
Frogs
1 Joeybada33 2018-05-25
Hitler regularly used to give research and give speeches on lobsters, they were his favourite species.
1 saddertadder 2018-05-25
Wait what?
1 Joeybada33 2018-05-25
Its not a very well know fact but it was one of his favourite talking points at dinners. He used to talk about the social structure of lobsters etc..
1 LightUmbra 2018-05-25
I thought they were mostly Lutheran.
1 preserved_fish 2018-05-25
The Horst Q. Sechspacks were. The inner circle was into occult shit.
1 Thhueros 2018-05-25
The NSDAP began in Bavaria, a catholic region and a lot of top Nazi officials like Goebbels had catholic backgrounds.
1 Ultrashitposter 2018-05-25
Fucking Bavarians, scum of the earth.
1 MooseHeckler 2018-05-25
Gott mitt uns?
1 snallygaster 2018-05-25
That one's been a semi-obscure right-wing rhetorical point for decades, which makes it even funnier. It's not even new material.
1 cvetley 2018-05-25
did he explicitely say bazis were atheist? because, while that isnât true, nazi doctrine certainly wasnât in line with christian and western traditions, and it was heavily based off nietzscheâs idea of humans taking the moral place of god
1 better_bot 2018-05-25
/u/annoysthegoys will have to help me out here, but isn't that an old Jewish idea? Something about man has the right to judge the laws?
1 AnnoysTheGoys 2018-05-25
That's like the opposite idea tho
1 pizzashill 2018-05-25
Nazi doctrine was pretty atheistic. This isn't the same as claiming Nazism was motivated by atheism.
I'm an atheist, I'm anti-religion. His claim that Nazism was an atheistic doctrine is not factually incorrect.
1 Neronoah 2018-05-25
I think the word agnostic is more apropiate for this.
1 Neronoah 2018-05-25
Did you see besttrousers question? He dunked Peterson really, really, really hard.
1 cheeZetoastee 2018-05-25
No, where is it?
1 Neronoah 2018-05-25
https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/8m21kw/i_am_dr_jordan_b_peterson_u_of_t_professor/dzk5q1n
1 GearyGears 2018-05-25
For anyone interested, besttrousers also did a takedown of Peterson's "women entering the labor force resulted in a decrease of wages" in the comments of this post.
1 Jorg_Ancrath69 2018-05-25
Imagine being so stupid you actually believe a reddit post just because someone wrote a lot. That "expert" gets taken down by the first reply to him.
1 GearyGears 2018-05-25
I'm honestly not sure what you're talking about. Are you referring to this reply in which Integralds asked a question? Or this reply in which gorbachev took issue with a single point, and besttrousers ended up agreeing? Nearly every reply to the comment I linked was an honest question that he or someone else answered. Nobody took him down.
I never called him an expert, so I don't know where you pulled those quote marks from. I believed a reddit post because it was well argued and well sourced.
What the fuck are you on about, man? Was that reply meant for an entirely different comment, or do you just get off on making short "haha ur stupid" comments without actually pointing to an argument or making one yourself? If you have a reason to disbelieve what he said or one of his sources, just say that. Vague, pointless insults makes you look lazy, cowardly, or both.
1 Jorg_Ancrath69 2018-05-25
I'm talking about the AMA post you colossal fucking retard, and you're high and holy AMA post literally says "controlling for occupation is flawed so actually there is a wage gap" but in 3 paragraphs which has conveniently enough tricked you.
Get raped you stupid retard.
1 GearyGears 2018-05-25
"I made a string of vague, incoherent ramblings that you misunderstood, you must be a colossal fucking retard."
Not sure why you responded to me if you were talking about the AMA, especially considering I linked to an entirely different thread, but hey, you don't seem to be in the business of making sense.
Funnily enough, you don't actually know my position on the wage gap, because I never said it. The thread I linked to was about women entering the workforce, and I didn't congratulate him on the AMA. You're basing all of this inane drivel off of nothing.
But hey, maybe controlling for occupation is flawed. If there is gender discrimination in a particular industry, it makes sense that women would be less inclined to go into that field. I'm not really sure one way or another, and I plan on reading more on it, but I'm glad to see you have your feet dug into the cement and your head dug into the sand.
By the way, that first reply got another reply, taking down the reply I assume you were referring to.
Look, man, I know you're right, and your high and holy answers are the objectively correct ones and all, but have you ever considered for a second that you might be wrong? A near impossibility, no doubt, especially coming from a stupid retard such as myself, but a possibility nonetheless.
By the way, do you get beat up at school a lot? You sound like you get beat up at school a lot.
1 Jorg_Ancrath69 2018-05-25
Imagine being this retarded. What kind of cardboard 3rd world shithole you living out of if you think women can't get jobs in certain fields because of discrimination ? Yeah women aren't picking garbage industries like construction because the work is hard , noo its because of meanies :(
1 GearyGears 2018-05-25
Hey jackass, you're pulling words I never said out of your ass and arguing with them again. That entire paragraph was you talking to yourself. You also conveniently ignored the part where I said that I didn't really have a stance either way, and that I planned on researching further. I guess acknowledging what I said would really fuck up your ability to write these garbage "gotcha's."
By the way,
Study showing a hiring bias in favor of men, and
Another study with similar results. That one goes more in depth with how the subjects viewed the resumĂšs. And for good measure, neither of those studies were for labor-intense jobs such as construction, so there's another way in which you're wrong.
Wow, that sure does make your whole "GgggrrrrrRRR women only experience discrimination in countries I don't live in!!" tirade look kinda fuckin stupid, huh?
Anyway, I can't wait for your next response in which you find a single snippit of a sentence I wrote that you can take out of context so you can argue with an argument I never made, only to be wrong about that too.
But hey, I'm glad you've toned back the anger in this reply, with 100% fewer requests for me to get raped. Almost like you realized you said stupid shit and decided you couldn't act as smug as you did earlier, in fear that it would happen again. Keep up that improving attitude of yours!
1 Jorg_Ancrath69 2018-05-25
The radical centrist strikes again
1 GearyGears 2018-05-25
Hardly. I just decided to withhold judgement until I learned more about the topic.
But hey, glad to see your tone has improved from insulting to humorous.
1 captainpriapism 2018-05-25
lol is that what you think a dunk is
1 DerpHerp 2018-05-25
lmao imagine being a bogan plumber whose daily highlight is posting on r/drama
1 captainpriapism 2018-05-25
lol this sub is getting so srdiney
we used to make fun of angrydm for getting angry at elon musk now you guys are imitating him
1 Awayfone 2018-05-25
Pushing wage gap myths isn't really destroying orvfunking someone
1 Neronoah 2018-05-25
You don't see often that level of detail and expertise though.
1 Grammar-Bolshevik 2018-05-25
He is an autist that posts all day, he thinks healthcare is a normal good, that's basically a red flag for ideology, agenda, or being a retard.
1 Neronoah 2018-05-25
NO U
1 kippot 2018-05-25
keep yourself safe
1 AlveolarPressure 2018-05-25
That's what makes the dunking even better. If Jimbo can't effectively argue against the idea of a wage gap - an idea that his fans and most redditors don't believe in - he's exposing himself as the as the pseudointellectual poseur he truly is.
1 Awayfone 2018-05-25
Besides there was no dunking
1 AlveolarPressure 2018-05-25
Fam he got dunked on. Losing an argument on Reddit to someone who believes in the wage gap is pathetic.
1 Mort_DeRire 2018-05-25
You seem to have not read the post
1 0192837465-TK1 2018-05-25
Link it, I can't find it, I wanna see him adress the kangs knowing all about dna n shiet.
1 cheeZetoastee 2018-05-25
No, he thinks DNA structure has something to do with Egyptian snakes fucking or some shit
1 0192837465-TK1 2018-05-25
It was a joke, because egyptians = kangs.
Anyway I found it, he read some books and talked about symbolism and lsd in some vague way.
1 klixxxxx 2018-05-25
Thanks m8
1 MG87 2018-05-25
Ahh everyone's favorite pseudointellectual
1 Chicup 2018-05-25
I have the same cringe reaction looking at this as I would a bad physical injury.
1 2tb-of-yiff 2018-05-25
đ ±ïžrigaded! That's how you know it's a good reddit post.
1 SpeakLikeAChild04 2018-05-25
ChapoTrapFags swarmed the AMA and did a lot of damage. They did the same thing with Cernovich's AMA. Not that I care about that, though.
1 TriggeredNiggard 2018-05-25
aomeday the chapotraps will come for the radical centrists and there will be no one left to speak out.
1 Wraith_GraveSpell 2018-05-25
At first they came for the fascists, and I didn't not care because I am a radical centrist.
Then they came for the lobsterbois and I didn't not care because I am a radical centrist.
Finally they came for the radical centrists, and I didn't not care because having an opinion on stuff is super gay lol.
1 Tobans 2018-05-25
Furreal. Lol. Fuck strongly held convictions.
1 VidiotGamer 2018-05-25
This is pretty good advice considering most people's strongly held convictions are garbage.
1 Karlore473 2018-05-25
you seem to care
1 OnlyRacistOnReddit 2018-05-25
I'm sure this is going to go well. The hivemind will definitely be open to a rational and uplifting conversation.
1 aef823 2018-05-25
Testing it out now.
From what I've read though, my guess is they're so far up their own asses they're seeing narnia.
1 XSCR 2018-05-25
/u/drjordanbpeterson on a scale of spooks. just how spooked are you?
1 better_bot 2018-05-25
I'd actually like to hear his opinion of Stirner.
1 the_pitizen 2018-05-25
"Stirner is a spook...ya'know? ...Because he's dead now."--Jordan B. Peterson
1 PowerOfJerkoffMagic 2018-05-25
Important intellectual questions
1 better_bot 2018-05-25
Lol, daddy is putting his foot down in that second one.
1 lickedTators 2018-05-25
Listen, it's up to you to show any evidence that I'm not the worst guy in the steam room who refuses to give handies, but always begs for one on my tiny dick hidden in my fat rolls.
1 mcslibbin 2018-05-25
fuck you beat me to it
1 -Mopsus- 2018-05-25
>People have built a relationship with the character.
Hasn't there been over a dozen different actors play The Doctor?
1 AlveolarPressure 2018-05-25
Obviously the most salient factor has been that the actors have always had penises. Not that the show has overarching narratives or anything like that.
1 BIknkbtKitNwniS 2018-05-25
I've changed my mind on him. He's retarded.
1 satanismyhomeboy 2018-05-25
You've figured this out now?
1 cheeZetoastee 2018-05-25
His trick is sometimes he says stuff backed by evidence such as the gender pay gap being mostly down to fields and the fact that women get pregnant and miss work and men don't. Thus, kkkapitalism isn't creating an oppressive system to destroy females. Then a new cultist picks up some self help books and actually cleans his room.
Then Memerson says "NAZI's were atheists and anti-religious". Now, to the non-cultist this is a retarded statement. However, once you're in and you've become attached to his works you feel no choice but to defend the retarded statement.
That's my analysis of how it works anyway.
1 the_pitizen 2018-05-25
Weren't many of the Nazis into some weird esoteric occultism focused on Nordic pagan traditions and "aryanism"? Seems like some people such as Himmler really disliked Christianity because of the shared religious tradition with the Jews.
1 dogDroolsCatsRules 2018-05-25
Nah, the nazi loved christiannity.
They even made their own version, with blackjack, hookers and jesus with a sword.
1 Awayfone 2018-05-25
But nazi were anti religion. Hillyer said National Socialism and Christianity are irreconcilable. Goebbels and himmler were both anti christianity too. Nazi banned small religions like jehovah witness and persecuted larger ones like Catholics.
They even had a movement called Positive Christianity which they tried to impose. Positive Christianity removed the "jewey" from christianity, jesus was after all a aryan Roman not a jew they claim, it removed also the divinity of christ, Apostle's Creed, supernatural elements and any semitic origins.
1 LedinToke 2018-05-25
I think he's half n half, listening to him talk about psychology related stuff is always interesting, but every now and then he'll say some silly religious shit that raises an eyebrow
1 Snowayne2 2018-05-25
It's fascinating how almost everything he says about philosophy despite how much he talks about it. I love listening to him just because of that đ€
1 Illyana_Rasputin 2018-05-25
wut?
1 Snowayne2 2018-05-25
I accidentally 2 words.
1 ArlenBilldozer 2018-05-25
http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/218/305/85e.jpg
1 Strictlybutters 2018-05-25
https://i.imgur.com/yLxq35U.jpg
1 Wraith_GraveSpell 2018-05-25
So they played themselves? Sounds about right.
1 EmotionalInjury 2018-05-25
my general take is 50% with this dude, and 50% laughing at him, and this AMA is no exception
1 Gtyyler 2018-05-25
The salt levels are through the roof.
1 RobBobGlove 2018-05-25
This AMA will break reddit
1 Gtyyler 2018-05-25
Drinking game: take a shot for every time someone links a video of some pseudo intellectual youtuber trying to debunk him.
1 moondoggy101 2018-05-25
they called him out for not responding to a 30 minute video in the middle of an ama
1 the_pitizen 2018-05-25
And that was even after he had posted a response to a question that poses the exact same criticism elsewhere in that thread too.
1 ay_what_up2 2018-05-25
that wasnât the only question he didnât answer lol
1 the_pitizen 2018-05-25
Does anyone who holds an AMA with hundreds of questions get around to answering them all?
1 ay_what_up2 2018-05-25
im talking about questions sorted by top. If he did answer them, they were usually short without explanation, because he had no real answer l o l
1 Mexagon 2018-05-25
Faggy chapo "gotcha" trap questions deserve no response. Better to see them sperg out when they're ignored, anyway.
1 ay_what_up2 2018-05-25
imagine white knighting this hard for memerson who canât even back up his own arguments
1 the_pitizen 2018-05-25
Maybe there's something I'm not understanding here but does the first comment you see at the top have an upvote count in the single digits? And there are some below it with slightly more and some of the ones with the most upvotes are towards the bottom for me. It's like this when I log out and look at it too.
1 ay_what_up2 2018-05-25
Lmao youâre sorted by controversial
1 the_pitizen 2018-05-25
oh, you're right. I didn't even check that. Yeah he didn't answer some of the current top ones.
1 trumplethinskins 2018-05-25
Nah, they usually cherry pick the easy ones, just like "Dr." Memerson.
1 reptilia987 2018-05-25
đđđ
1 PhysicsIsMyMistress 2018-05-25
Isn't that who Jordan Peterson is tho?
1 -Mopsus- 2018-05-25
on a serious note his long comment on Marxism and postmodernism is actually a bit silly
Noting that power struggles govern society and being concerned for the marginalized predate Karl Marx by quite a few years... Like in the Bible that Peterson is crazy about. Was Jesus a Marxist?
1 the_pitizen 2018-05-25
He's not being clear enough in his language. The idea that literally every human interaction is a power-struggle is one that has roots in Foucault and Machiavelli but really didn't see wide-scale embrace until the Marxists came along. The post-modernist philosophy revolves around the idea whereas Marxism is a much broader school of thought which focuses more on economic theory than philosophy.
So not everyone who believes power struggles govern or impact society is a Marxist or a post-modernist but most people who think that power struggles govern or impact society and that even individual interactions are just extensions of collectivist power struggles (defined by the respective classes and/or race, gender, orientation, etc. of the individuals involved) are Marxists or post-modernists.
1 -Mopsus- 2018-05-25
He really seems to have a problem with this despite it being one of his rules for life.
1 the_pitizen 2018-05-25
He often admits fault for stuff like this. He says that his own personality (according to the "big 5") is not what he'd like it to be, and that he'd be better off if he was more conscientious. Hearing him get sidetracked or going off on some tangentially related adjacent for 30 minutes when giving a speech is pretty common.
That being said, it's really strange that he doesn't focus more on precision in his language since he knows how much scrutiny he's under and often emphasizes the growing problem with "political correctness". At least Kanye and Trump actually have an excuse (they either don't give a shit or arguably aren't capable of being precise). I expect better from internet daddy.
1 banhminobanhyou 2018-05-25
It'd be great if he stopped intentionally muddying the water between his academic work and his pop writing. But that would be too honest I guess
1 the_pitizen 2018-05-25
Sometimes in Maps of Meaning it's hard to tell if he's simply elaborating on the meta-narratives he bases his worldview on and using relevant academic research to support his points or if he means to mostly focus on what the research says and just places it in context with the other things he's talking about so people can relate to it better.
1 heavenlytoaster 2018-05-25
Transpersonal?
1 the_pitizen 2018-05-25
trans-conscientious, bucko
1 OkThatsProblematic 2018-05-25
Quasi-Transie-Nazi-Allti-Rightie-Demogogerie-RIEEEE
1 Jorg_Ancrath69 2018-05-25
He is being clear, just not clear enough for really stupid people (you).
1 westofthetracks 2018-05-25
generally when one says something "has roots" in a specific figure, that person was supposed to have existed before the other things in your timeline, not after
1 the_pitizen 2018-05-25
I just think the idea wasn't really well-developed until Foucault and Machiavelli but you can argue that their beliefs are derivative of older ideas on some level.
That's what I mean. Disregard my imprecise language.
1 westofthetracks 2018-05-25
it's just really weird to lump together two writers that are separated by hundreds of years like that, is my point. especially when youre tying them to political movements that emerged centuries after one of them died and decades before the other started writing. it's just not a very coherent narrative.
1 the_pitizen 2018-05-25
Well sometimes the stages in which ideas are developed are separated by a very long period of time and the people who develop them the most can be separated by hundreds or even thousands of years. Isn't that pretty common in philosophy? Political movements can come along at any time and pick and choose which philosophical ideas to adopt. Just because the timeline isn't short doesn't mean it isn't coherent.
1 snallygaster 2018-05-25
Can you talk a bit about your educational background?
1 DerpHerp 2018-05-25
Sjwism wasn't developed until the 1960s but also the 1500s
1 the_pitizen 2018-05-25
Machiavelli's theories on power formed the foundation of the school of realism in International Affairs. I think his ideas of power struggle generally refer to one society, civilization, or state versus another but he did also talk extensively about human motivation/self-interest and power struggles within a regime. At that point he was talking about it within the context of a government.
Marx extrapolated the concept of power struggle to be one between classes within a society. The post-modernists not only changed and broadened which collectives or social orders constituted "classes" (which vied for power with one another in a society) within the same framework but were also the first ones to propose that all individual interactions between people are extensions of collective class struggles.
1 triceratraps 2018-05-25
he never denies the existence of power struggles and agree hierarchies tend towards tyranny he just claims the removal of these is much worse for society in general
1 snallygaster 2018-05-25
That's a non-point given that forming hierarchies is a part of human behavior though. There will be hierarchies in whatever social group humans form. The fact that he's afraid that there can even be a removal of hierarchies is pretty dumb.
1 triceratraps 2018-05-25
its not dumb because thats what a lot of left wing people would describe as an ideal world. like you said hierarchies are human nature so it would be very painful to force humans to live against their nature
1 snallygaster 2018-05-25
A world without hierarchies where everyone gets along would be ideal. But what is the threat here? Why would somebody by threatened by the idea of something ceasing to exist when it will happen naturally regardless of what happens? Why is the idea that we need hierarchies so important when they'll develop regardless of what happens? The only group of people who explicitly wants to eliminate hierarchies is extremely small to the point of being near-irrelevant, so why the big panic? Why is this an important topic when it would naturally sort itself out?
1 snallygaster 2018-05-25
Why would you or whoever is getting worked up get worked up over something that is not only a non-issue given that only radicals want it but is impossible?
1 triceratraps 2018-05-25
because its not impossible it would just be extremely painful, for you
1 Joeybada33 2018-05-25
Is it peterson who started the cultural marxism meme ?
1 -Mopsus- 2018-05-25
No, but he's definitely cashing in on it. It got started by some paleoconservatives a while back and has made a resurgence as of late among self-proclaimed classical liberals and the far right.
1 Gtyyler 2018-05-25
I didn't say that he wasn't. It's just that one meme of spiderman pointing at spiderman.
1 __Toradorable__ 2018-05-25
He is an academic at a prestigious university (or at least was). He is an intellectual, though you could argue that his field has little to do with what he's saying now.
1 PhysicsIsMyMistress 2018-05-25
He's a small time psychology professor. That doesn't automatically make him an "intellectual."
1 __Toradorable__ 2018-05-25
As far as I'm aware an intellectual is someone who professionally engages in what you'd call intellectual pursuits. A professor definitely qualifies as an intellectual. Also, UofT is one of the best universities in the world, and the best in Canada.
1 throwawayokay4563584 2018-05-25
I would disagree. He is clearly biased which means he does not pursue new knowledge. He instead doubles down on what he believes. To be an intellectual you have to constantly question your beliefs. You never become set in your ways.
1 OkThatsProblematic 2018-05-25
But I have had it figuered out all along. I did a book report in 8th grade and got a A-.
1 grungebot5000 2018-05-25
1 OkThatsProblematic 2018-05-25
Damn you.
1 fyog 2018-05-25
U of T is not the best university in Canada IMO. That title would probably go to McGill
1 nmx179 2018-05-25
Small time except for the bestselling book, multiple media profiles and millions of patreon buxx
1 modsarethebest 2018-05-25
but that doesn't count, since his opinions are incorrect.
1 grungebot5000 2018-05-25
well, small time in terms of professing I guess?
idk
1 Yiin 2018-05-25
That's your contribution to an intelligent discussion? A vague, unspecified criticism, accompanied by an implicitly self-aggrandizing bit of arrogant dismissiveness?
1 PhysicsIsMyMistress 2018-05-25
New snappy quote?
1 Yiin 2018-05-25
I'll say
1 grungebot5000 2018-05-25
duh
1 OkThatsProblematic 2018-05-25
Yes.
1 Wraith_GraveSpell 2018-05-25
Ur mom gay
1 Yiin 2018-05-25
Tbh, you're probably right. Some THICCness started hanging out at my house when I was younger and was super helpful. Turned out she was chatting mom up on a daily basis and ended up staying with us for a few months.
1 throwawayokay4563584 2018-05-25
Well TBF he is a pseudo intellectual clinical psychologist.
1 OkThatsProblematic 2018-05-25
Why the downvotes?
1 0192837465-TK1 2018-05-25
He's a professor of clinincal psychology in a university with multiple peer reviewed studies that have been cited thousands of times.
A tad bit higher than "pseudo intellectual youtuber".
1 PhysicsIsMyMistress 2018-05-25
He literally puts out videos on youtube where he talks about subjects he has no education or authority in. That's by definition a psuedo intellectual youtuber, regardless of what his day job is.
1 0192837465-TK1 2018-05-25
Like for example what?
1 PhysicsIsMyMistress 2018-05-25
Are you...are you not looking at the AMA? Literally has quotes from all his video appearances where he's made incorrect statements about subjects he's got no expertise in.
History: Atheism caused Nazism; twin snakes in ancient Egypt is dna symbol
Philosophy: his whole stick about "postmodern neomarxism" (a concept that cannot exist fundamentally)
Economics: women entering the workforce lowers men's salaries
Do I need to go on?
1 0192837465-TK1 2018-05-25
I've been asking for someone to link me this the entire time, I'm dying to see his egyptian thing response but nobody will fucking link it to me.
Why can't it exist?
Does this need explaining really...?
More available workers = More replacability = Lower wages.
1 PhysicsIsMyMistress 2018-05-25
Because you're lazy and won't go into the thread. It's an upvoted top level comment.
Marxism is a modernist philosophy Post-modernism states modernist philosophies are incorrect. "Postmodern Neomarxism" makes as much sense as "Scientific creationism" (hint, there's nothing scientific about creationism).
That's literally not how this works.
https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/8m21kw/i_am_dr_jordan_b_peterson_u_of_t_professor/dzk5q1n/
1 0192837465-TK1 2018-05-25
In case you didn't notice the thread is a clusterfuck you dipshit.
He litterally explained this in the thread. Instead of being lazy, go in the thread and look.
Instead of copypasting links make sure to actually read what they're saying yeah?
People went from one breadwinner and a housewife, into 2 people working being nessesary.
Or are you going to say that 1 person working families are possible now?
1 PhysicsIsMyMistress 2018-05-25
It's actually not I once again urge you to actually read the AMA before trying to argue with people in this thread. I'm well aware of what the links say, because unlike you I'm actually reading the thread. His responses to these questions were, like you, stupid.
1 0192837465-TK1 2018-05-25
1.) Do you have the dna helix comment/reply or not?
2.) That's a cute way to avoid adressing
1 PhysicsIsMyMistress 2018-05-25
1) It's here you brainlet https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/8m21kw/i_am_dr_jordan_b_peterson_u_of_t_professor/dzkbpef/
2) It's already been addressed in the link I posted previously.
1 0192837465-TK1 2018-05-25
So, you were basically exagurating bullshit.
I read it, and no it hasn't. Breadwinner families can't exist today.
1 PhysicsIsMyMistress 2018-05-25
"people taking drugs could see it as dna" is reasonable, got it. Imagine pretending to be retarded to defend peterson lmao
1 0192837465-TK1 2018-05-25
He says he read a few books about it, linked them and thought it was an intresting idea.
But of course, when you reach anita levels of asshurt, any inocuous comment is instantly reduced to the most extreme version of itself imaginable.
1 AlveolarPressure 2018-05-25
The DNA thing is ahistorical garbage. Linking books about it doesn't change the fact that anyone who believes that ancient Egyptians knew about DNA is retarded.
1 0192837465-TK1 2018-05-25
Except he never presented it as fact, he said it was a idea he thought was intresting.
1 AlveolarPressure 2018-05-25
Typical Memerson move to avoid being pinned down. He loves to be vague so that any time someone disagrees with him, he or his followers can claim that he is being misunderstood/misrepresented. He has legitimized the idea that the Egyptians knew about DNA by talking about it, and finding such a obviously retarded concept interesting (or plausible) is still incredibly dumb.
I'm starting to think that Peterson is being intellectually dishonest on purpose instead of simply being bad at explaining his ideas clearly.
1 0192837465-TK1 2018-05-25
It's better move than all the spergs who lose their shit over him constantly trying to microanalize everything he says in an effort to come up with some retarded gotcha.
1 trumplethinskins 2018-05-25
The Amemerson educational system at work folks.
Clean your fucking room kiddo.
1 0192837465-TK1 2018-05-25
Oh gear it's one of those morons.
1 trumplethinskins 2018-05-25
U r a national treasure.
1 0192837465-TK1 2018-05-25
Poke
1 Snowayne2 2018-05-25
See, the thing here is you're commiting the exact same fallacy as Peterson did. Because both of you aren't properly educated in economics.
1 0192837465-TK1 2018-05-25
Maybe learn what supply and demand is before lecturing others on economics, you'd make less of a fool out of yourself that way.
1 Snowayne2 2018-05-25
If you want to know why you are wrong take a look at this thread:
https://www.reddit.com/r/badeconomics/comments/8lcexw/jordan_peterson_women_joining_workforce_cuts/
1 0192837465-TK1 2018-05-25
Nothing in this thread even remotely proves me wrong or you right.
That's the reason you're actually afraid to say why I'm wrong and you're right by using words, and instead rely on linking the thread, hoping that nobody will actually bother reading it, well smartass, here's a link proving why I'm right.
1 Snowayne2 2018-05-25
Educating retards is part of my job so I don't feel like wasting my shitposting time on that too.
If you'd actually read the posts in the thread I linked you'd know why you're wrong now :)
1 0192837465-TK1 2018-05-25
Christ, if educating people is part of your job and you don't even know what supply and demand is, I weep for the people that have you as a teacher.
And if you actually read the posts in the thread that I linked you in response, you'd know why you're wrong by now ;)
1 captainpriapism 2018-05-25
lol
1 jorio 2018-05-25
Sure it can. One can be heavily influenced by Marxist theory without buy into 100% of it. Saying otherwise would be like claiming that only people who stick to the letter of Charles Darwin's writing can be called Darwinians.
1 Anarcho_Autism 2018-05-25
Nope. Peterson is a solid academic and decent public intellectual who sometimes states conjecture and wild speculations way too confidently. The problem is that he'll frequently jump from reasonable premises to his own opinions seamlessly, creating the impression he's
The issue is that clinical psychology (his area of expertise) allows room for this type of thing, but other disciplines absolutely do not.
1 snallygaster 2018-05-25
Not in research psych, at least not a half-decent university. I imagine that if he didn't have tenure he would've gotten shitcanned as soon as he suggested that hard Jungian thought still has a place in the literature. He reminds me of that continental philosopher who got arrested for sexually assaulting a profoundly disabled man because she had a discredited theory about cognition and disability but nobody could stop her because she had tenure and published regularly.
1 captainpriapism 2018-05-25
are you pretending to be smarter than him
1 Fataleo 2018-05-25
According to Reddit yes, but according to academics no.
1 modsarethebest 2018-05-25
according to reddit academics in /r/bad[...] circlejerk subs: no.
1 Fataleo 2018-05-25
Was Reddit always such a leftist circlejerk ? I like to think it built some traction when it was better than it is now.
1 GIANT_BLEEDING_ANUS 2018-05-25
He at least has a paper that says he's smart.
1 throwawayokay4563584 2018-05-25
Ironically he's linked plenty of his own.
1 Gtyyler 2018-05-25
New rule: 2 shots if Memerson links a video.
1 noobthrowthisaway 2018-05-25
the real crimes memerson and co. have committed is being a north american who says "bloody" and unironically saying "bucko"
1 ChaddingTater 2018-05-25
gas all new worlders
1 TheEquimanthorn 2018-05-25
Only if you make an exception for thicc Latinas. đ€đ«đ€đ«
1 ChaddingTater 2018-05-25
I thought you were all about those jewesses?
1 TheEquimanthorn 2018-05-25
Both are good, true. An evacuation of all Jewish princesses with fulsome bushes and all big assed Latinas must be undertaken, then the nuclear hellfire can begin.
1 throwawayokay4563584 2018-05-25
I can get on board that.
1 Zachums 2018-05-25
The truly enlightened use the phrase "buckaroo", i.e. Chuck Tingle.
1 herestoeuclid 2018-05-25
Well you're in for a wild ride, buckaroo
1 80BAIT08 2018-05-25
This is gonna make so many people angry for reasons we wonât understand. Remember to post links to other subs moaning about it.
1 EEvEviEvilEvi 2018-05-25
HAHAHA he's destroying the chapotards. It is true the left just can't meme!
1 Ed_ButteredToast 2018-05-25
/r/sadcringe
1 mcslibbin 2018-05-25
Cancel Western civilization
1 AlveolarPressure 2018-05-25
Women? In MY science fiction tv show?? Unacceptable!
1 mcslibbin 2018-05-25
*childrens science fiction tv show
1 hobocactus 2018-05-25
With Chibnall taking over it might actually become watchable for people over 12 again. Not that those retards complaining about Whittaker would like that.
1 icefourthirtythree 2018-05-25
I liked Moffat. đ
1 grungebot5000 2018-05-25
Chibnail? Moffat?
yâall got ridiculous names
1 PantherChamp 2018-05-25
Perfect for you, then
1 actual_mainecoon 2018-05-25
Have you even SEEN Blink?
1 cuteman 2018-05-25
I mean, just turn off the internet and make your own show.
1 captainpriapism 2018-05-25
jamming random women in stuff for the sake of it is dumb fyi
1 westofthetracks 2018-05-25
no more random than any other replacement, it's been canon for a while that the doctor can be any gender. yes i hate that "doctor who rules of succession" is something i have any knowledge of, it wasnt information i absorbed by choice.
1 captainpriapism 2018-05-25
doctor who is the least egregious example, but its still dumb and politically motivated as admitted by the writer
my mother has watched that shit literally since it came out back in the 60s or whatever and she thinks its as retarded as i do
im thinking more ghostbusters level
1 grungebot5000 2018-05-25
ghostbusters wasnât bad because they got women, not even because of the specific women they picked. though that definitely became its whole âsellingâ point and was obviously intentional, which just seems tacky
ghostbusters was bad because they went with a weird low-concept Paul Rudd direction, draping loose skin over the skeleton of a focused, super high-concept 80s blockbuster
1 captainpriapism 2018-05-25
the entire idea was "ghostbusters with women" though, it didnt have anything else
they were experimenting with abuse of outrage
they deliberately make it look shit with women in it, and then respond to complaints with "look at all these women haters, lets show them who the majority is by all going to see this new movie on opening day"
youll notice that shit happens all the time now, its genuinely the main reason they always overdo the diversity stuff
"put a black guy in, then we can call everyone racist and get activists emotionally involved"
its insulting tbh, but apparently saves money on writing
1 grungebot5000 2018-05-25
actually, it was less than that. and more! the movie is 30 minutes longer than the original, but actually has considerably less plot and development of the primary characters. and bc the apparent lack of written dialogue didnât screw up that pacing well enough, they tacked on lilâ side-scenes that they thought could have some sort of comedy potential.
but even with as shallow an idea as âgenderswapped Ghostbustersâ is, they could even have been a remake of the original, with improvisation allowed but curated, with the new cast and it would have been much better. itâd be nearly worthless as a film, but itâd be at least be much more watchable.
but yeah Sony marketed it as âsexists HATE itâ big time, same thing they did with Kim Jong Un. fuck âem.
1 positiveandmultiple 2018-05-25
Gimme more of your moms hot takes
1 captainpriapism 2018-05-25
no
1 positiveandmultiple 2018-05-25
Lemme help you how does she like her eggs in the morning?
Trick question fucko! I already no!
1 Wraith_GraveSpell 2018-05-25
Less of that and more jamming stuff into random women amirite?
1 captainpriapism 2018-05-25
gross no you gotta inspect them like a horse first im not taking any chances
1 Karlore473 2018-05-25
or it's because the show is boring as fuck and very smart eccentric science man #15 isn't going to fix it
1 captainpriapism 2018-05-25
women arent automatically more interesting lol
1 Arkansan13 2018-05-25
Imagine your life being so empty you gave enough of a fuck about a television show that you got butthurt about a casting choice. That's fucking bleak.
1 Strictlybutters 2018-05-25
/u/drjordanbpeterson
Iâd like to know why heâs not married if heâs so into enforced monogamy?
Oh and where do you get floor to ceiling prints of Soviet posters and paintings of the Great Patriotic War?
1 __Toradorable__ 2018-05-25
But he is married.
1 Strictlybutters 2018-05-25
Lol the retardation diagnosis that I received must be worse than I thought
1 Neronoah 2018-05-25
Don't worry, you are posting at the right place for people like you: /r/drama
1 Strictlybutters 2018-05-25
Aww thnks bby this is the only place I know I wonât be thinkshamed
1 22333444455555666666 2018-05-25
i think u might actually be a genius
1 itsnotmyfault 2018-05-25
https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/8m21kw/i_am_dr_jordan_b_peterson_u_of_t_professor/dzkfjer/?context=10000
1 -Mopsus- 2018-05-25
didn't Peterson famously not get a joke in an article about him and made himself look silly tweeting about it
1 better_bot 2018-05-25
JBP is the conservative man's fart-sniffer.
1 boehnerofamerica 2018-05-25
What is r/dramaâs opinion on JBP?
Not that Iâm being a sheep or anything, since I already have an opinion about him. I donât really follow JBP, but I appreciate what he has to say, and find it hilarious that leftists think that this very moderate person is somehow a preacher to the alt-right and incels.
1 TheEquimanthorn 2018-05-25
He's Jordan Memerson, with a fanbase of such dumb fucking mayos that telling them to clean their room is seen as profound and life changing.
1 Mexagon 2018-05-25
What does that say about commie neets who freak the fuck out just because he says that they should clean their rooms?
Does he remind them of mommy's new boyfriend who's just moved in?
1 klixxxxx 2018-05-25
I love him, the drama he generates is absolutely top tier.
I donât know anything about him as a philosopher/cult leader because Iâm not retarded
1 jaredschaffer27 2018-05-25
JP is super interesting to me because the amount of vitriolic hatred he gets combined with the amount of over the top, creepy-bordering-on-religious fanboyism he gets is all completely out of proportion to the fact that nothing he says is really that new, groundbreaking or controversial.
1 ahbslldud 2018-05-25
He does say some legitimately retarded stuff like the egyptian DNA shit and the nazis being atheists and such.
1 jaredschaffer27 2018-05-25
Yes, but I've never in my life seen someone show up to my house and yell and scream and holler because of how much of a retard I am. And frankly, that's kind of insulting that they don't bother.
1 vjaY619 2018-05-25
You nailed it perfectly. This guy does not deserve neither the praise nor hate he gets. Common sense is dying.
1 Mircy 2018-05-25
The Oracles of Delphi's prophecies were often correct because they were vague AF, so when you looked back at what was said they were always 'right' and they made tons of money.
JBP is vague enough and never fully commits to many out-there/edgy ideas so he has plausible deniability at all times and his cult worships it. People who try to counter just get sucked into the his little snare of "i only threw that idea out there, I didn't commit to it".
So everyone engaged is a retard, but if he makes money off of it, more power to him.
1 80BAIT08 2018-05-25
Heâs great because he talks about basic self help shit that has been proving successful in getting NEETS motivated to do something about themselves. Aside from that he seems pretty dry and verbose so itâs strange the scale of the following he has. He probably wouldnât be as famous as he is if it wasnât for the lefts infinite outrage.
This one time he said he refuses to be forced by the gubmint to call a tranny her desired name so since then heâs had an immense amount of hatred directed at him by far left types. In addition he hates commies and they canât seem to let it go.
1 aef823 2018-05-25
He's alright.
I still don't know if he actually believes in Jung or just memeing at this point, so he has my respect on being a probable troll I can't read - since believing in Psychoanalysis is the best way to troll modern psych people.
I don't know if he's going to go the way of black science man though, there's similar patterns but it's too early.
BUT, the biggest takeaway from this shit is his fans.
Good god man, the amount of pseudointellectual faggotry in that thread alone could sustain me for hours.
1 ay_what_up2 2018-05-25
heâs a moron with a good vocabulary
1 klixxxxx 2018-05-25
This is the guy who has everyoneâs panties in a bunch? Heâs boring as f what the hell I expected him to be advocating gassing trannyâs the way reddit talks about him
1 syllabic 2018-05-25
The reason people are so terrified of him is because he's boring
If he acted crazy then people would just dismiss him
1 captainpriapism 2018-05-25
thats why its funny
1 ay_what_up2 2018-05-25
the reality is heâs just dumb and talks smart
1 FrogHitler 2018-05-25
from his youtube vids he appears to be quite literally the least threatening person ever
1 better_bot 2018-05-25
And it's over now.
1 grungebot5000 2018-05-25
wow, that was a lot more fun than I expected
1 saint2e 2018-05-25
Just start reading the comments 3-4 levels down from the first replies for the juicy drama. Everything 1-2 levels is pretty drama-free.
1 the_psycho_watch 2018-05-25
Might I suggest: https://www.reddit.com/user/drjordanbpeterson/comments/?sort=controversial
1 donglegoblins 2018-05-25
This question needs a answer
1 heavenlytoaster 2018-05-25
I finally get it, memerson is the right wing Bill Mahr. He's pretty fucking dumb but sometimes breaks the mold. And most of his critics are even fucking dumber which hides his dumbness.
1 circlejerk3r 2018-05-25
Heâs like an Alex Jones for non-masculine incels. âBuy my lifestyle guides now and youâll stop slicing your wrists and get laid insteadâ.
1 xcallmesunshine 2018-05-25
Its funny because hes been taking anti-depressents most of his life- theres an interview where he talks about it. Somehow he never mentions that in his "fix your depressing existence" lectures.
1 80BAIT08 2018-05-25
Jordan Peterson absolutely RAPES FEMINIST IN THE FACE with facts and BENDS HER OVER AND FISTS HER WITH BRASS KNUCKLES with logic. Proceeds to LITERALLY CURBSTOMP debate moderator with his calm demeanor. PETERSON BTFO FEMINIST COMPILATION #127363
1 better_bot 2018-05-25
Fact: The B in Jordan B. Memerson stands for Bernt, and no I'm not kidding.
1 80BAIT08 2018-05-25
It stands for âfeminist literally Btfoâ stupid bot.
1 trumplethinskins 2018-05-25
Memerson is a such a fucking B-tier pseudo intellectual. It's no wonder he appeals to the kind of dipshits that think "clean your room" is groundbreaking advice.
1 kierran_ 2018-05-25
The âclean your roomâ part is an epigram for sorting your life out before trying to revolutionize the world; heâs arguing that the young impressional Antifa and marxists are too young and inexperienced to understand how the world works and how it should run - hence heâs saying that you should get your life in order at least before trying to implement large scale economic theories: e.g: Communism.
This bears similarities to what Socrates said in Book 6 of the Republic of Plato, the ship of state, where he asks Antigone - if i recall correctly: âIf you were on a ship who would you think would be best to choose the captain of that ship? Anyone or experienced seamen and naval commanders?â He of course replies the latter. Thus Socrates asks why he believes that just anyone should be able to vote for a leader of a country. Socratesâ point is not that we should only allow politicians and the like to vote, but rather we should teach others critical thinking so that they have the necessary skills in order to think critically and make thought-out conclusions.
This relates to JbP âclean your roomâ because âcleaning your room.â Is about learning and sorting out your own life in order to be able to think critically and grow as an individual.
I think itâs quite outlandish to state that he is a âB-tier intellectualâ. - while i do agree that in some circumstances he makes weak points; see his debate with Matt Dillahunty, for example. He is a Professor at the University at Toronto, holds a Doctorate and studied at Harvard. I donât think we should just dismiss people as unintelligent if we disagree with them; especially if their talents and qualifications act as axiomatic evidence against that. As it just results in stubborn opinions and prejudice.
1 trumplethinskins 2018-05-25
:mindblown:
1 kierran_ 2018-05-25
The key part is âbefore trying to revolutionize the worldâ that follows after.
1 Bjthrowaway962 2018-05-25
You Jordan Peterson fags all have the exact same obnoxiously-verbose, word-salad writing style.
1 vjaY619 2018-05-25
Don't care for Peterson but the same can be said for his haters as well. Both are a bunch of pseudo-intellectuals.
1 kierran_ 2018-05-25
How does the way i write or talk redact from what i am saying. This digs into the âpseudo-intellectualâ point also: The content of someones words should not be determined by the style nor the words used nor the person saying them. Whilst you may be able to decipher some great prejudice of their intelligence based upon it. It doesnât mean what they say is correct. Hence it draws worthless conclusions about what someone is saying without cause for the content of what they are saying.
The words i used in both of all of the responses are accurate, the reason i used âepigramâ over âa witty or clever expression of an ideaâ is wholly because it uses less characters for the same expression.
1 Wopitikitotengo 2018-05-25
It just makes you sound like a try hard dork. Your first post could literally be reduced to 'It means sort your life out before you criticise others, not literally clean your room' and for your second you should have just said 'fuck you faget'
1 kierran_ 2018-05-25
Guess i learnt something today.
1 ineedmorealts 2018-05-25
That's retarded. A huge amount of people who revolutionized the world had their lives all fucked up at the time.
But his audience of 14 years too stupid to read and understand something as simple as bill c-16 totes have it figured out right?
1 kierran_ 2018-05-25
Yes that is correct. But those people who revolutionized the world were not usually 18 year olds with no jobs, qualifications or experiences. And if they were they did not change it in the same way that i stated: âlarge scale economic theories.â
The issue with C-16 is that it forced you to use specific language. Quite a few countries have âHate speech lawsâ whereby you are punished for saying something offensive. C-16 goes past that point and says if you do not use that language. Thereâs a large difference between being punished for saying something and for being punished for not saying something; it controls speech.
If it was not worded the way it is, and thus you were not obligated under law to speak in a certain manner, then he wouldnât have - or he would have less of a problem with the bill.
1 ineedmorealts 2018-05-25
No it doesn't.
No it doesn't. Why don't you go read the bill instead of listening to daddy memerson?
1 captainpriapism 2018-05-25
LOL people in here legitimately get angry at peterson
1 Fataleo 2018-05-25
Imagine how into this guy Reddit would be if he was more left than center.
1 better_bot 2018-05-25
>Imagine how into this guy Reddit would be if he were entirely different.
1 Fataleo 2018-05-25
Reddit generally reacts to the guy through the opinion of his detractors. He's simply too right of center for a place like Reddit to champion him.
1 pandaSmore 2018-05-25
Where is the drama?
1 King-Achelexus 2018-05-25
Check out the anger /r/subredditdrama or /r/gamerghazi if you want some womanchild tears.
1 Bisoromi 2018-05-25
Imagine a sadder life than being a disciple to a whiny old dude who doesn't make any sense.