Sorry but after the Bussy Bamboozle I am not sure I can trust "you people" anymore. Actually what am I saying, I don't want to see a moderator's gaping asshole that's disgusting.
Imagine being so pathetic that you have to prove how anti-racist you are by citing what the party you voted for did 150 years ago. Back when the term "liberal" wasn't being misused by you Ameritards.
the KKK was founded as a way to punish accused rapists outside of the judicial system. democrats enjoy destroying the lives of accused rapists today. the only reason Hardwick isn't hanging from a tree right now is because murdering accused rapists comes back in 2019.
Also the KKK was extremely anti-asian and Democrats like the mayor of NYC have said "we need to ban those slanty eyed yellow animals from schools."
Not a conservatard nor an Amerilard but maybe you're too young, and alt-right likes to talk about how the south is being niggerified so maybe they're right and you belong to the porch monkey era of Texas????
Out of all of DDF's delusional arguments, I think this one tops the list. Imagine being so retarded that you think the modern day Democrat party has any semblance to the 1800s Democrat party.
You’re the type of guy who can’t understand imaginary numbers because they have imaginary in the name.
lmao ok this is one of the strangest and lamest nerd insults ive seen on this site. like what does this even have to do with anything. i can just see this smug stemlord leaning back in his chair taking a big sip of his dew and smugly saying to himself “lel rekt” after typing that dumb shit
The U.S. offered to not only legalize slavery forever, but make it a part of the U.S. Constitution so that it could never be made illegal. Lincoln himself supported it, too.
But the Confederacy wanted independence, so they weren't interested.
But if secession was about slavery, then why would the Confederacy not accept the offer? They were being given everything they wanted and wouldn't need a war to get it.
by partaking in its legislature
The amendment was created and agreed upon without their input.
Amendments arnt guaranteed to be permanent. They can be cancelled out by another amendment. The Western world was pulling away from chattel slavery; France and England had already repealed it, Spain was poised to do the same). These sentiments were rising in the US as well. The south knew that the only way to keep their precious slaves was to leave the union.
But the Confederacy wanted independence, so they weren't interested.
Alright, another ignorant little slut in denial coming at me.
Here's the two future's that the Confederacy saw, assuming slavery continued for the intermediate future:
Slavery continues under an independent Confederacy that rules itself, where slavery is assured to stay.
Slavery continues under the South, while the South is being subject to the whole of the United States. And there's a good chance that sooner rather than later the rest of the United States will pull another move to re-reeeee amend the constitution and make slavery illegal.
If you're the little shit of a slave owner that was Jefferson Davis, you would know that Congress only rushed this amendment to incentivise the South to stay. So you gotta be one hell of a stupid moron to not think that the rest of the Union will retract the Corwin amendment as soon as the country had a better holding grip on the South.
So no shit the Confederacy would tell the Yankees to shove their amendment and constitution up their ass. This was before the war had started and the idea of an independent South and guaranteed slavery was very much real and strong to the Confederacy?
So why the fuck would they do something as stupid (from their perspective at that particular time in 1861) as to accept this questionable amendment and give up their dream (which again I remind was very much real and attainable at that point before both sides went deep into war) of independence and guaranteed slavery? ! ! !
Makes sense? Probably not, you're still gonna be in denial.
There is no basis at all to believe that the amendment was a bluff, and if it were it would just lead to another war. Avoiding a war was the entire point.
accept this questionable amendment
An amendment that is promised to be permanent is a lot less risky than a massive war. Upholding the Constitution is one of the things that gives the U.S. government legitimacy, if they reneged on their agreement states would be even more justified in breaking away.
Makes sense?
No, especially given that, after winning the war, Lincoln and the rest didn't make blacks equal to whites under the law. Lincoln didn't give a damn about the immorality of slavery or black rights.
The reason the North wanted to abolish slavery was because industrialisation made it unprofitable to the industrialized North and to fuck up the South's economy so they couldn't rebel again.
Lincoln and the rest didn't make blacks equal to whites under the law.
Again, as we have established that you're stupid, and Jefferson Davis (regardless of being an asshole) was far smarter than you, and could call out on bullshit on meaningless, retractable offers that guarantee nothing and have lots of risk... just as we established your humongous ignorance in relative to Davis (or anyone else really) we also need to establish the fact that, relatively to Lincoln, you are even more tremendously dumb. In fact words will certainly fail to conceive how much of an idiot you are in that comparison.
In short, Lincoln saw the obvious (which you would realize too if you opened a goddamn history book and actually read it once in your ignorant life) During his time, Lincoln found resistance to the Emancipation Proclamation and the 13th Amendment not just from the South, but even some in the North. As I told the other true buffon on the original thread, while the average 1870's White Southerner was obviously more racist than the average 1870's White Northerner... the reality however is that the average 1870's White Northerner is much more racist that the average White Southerner of the 2010's.... duuuh
It was clear to Lincoln that pretty much all of America was racist against black people. Yes, there was wide support for the abolition of slavery in the North; however, declaring that Black people should not be enslaved and treated as animals is one thing... going so far as to declare that Black people are EQUAL to White people is an entirely more different and extreme measure in comparison.
Had Lincoln in his time tried to be so reckless as to push for actual equal rights from the get go and equating Whites and Blacks in America, he would have had so much resistance from both North and South that not even the Thirteenth Amendment would pass... no shit Sherlock.
So my dearest brainless, nasty slut who's living in denial, anyone with a handful of brain cells (let alone Lincoln) would have realized under no circumstances can Black people get actual equal rights during Lincoln's time, and it's actually detrimental to pursue such critical thing in a rush.
The journey to true equality could never have been done in a handful of years after the Civil War. America had to adapt first, step by step. And it would take much longer than a century for America finish that journey. And yet to this day, after all this time there is still elements of Americana that is struggling with the idea that White people and Black people are equal humans.
Kapeesh? Again, probably not... you filthy hoe. You're still gonna in your cocoon of denial and having wet dreams about "the south shall rise ageeeeeeen". Oh well, if you're that much in denial it's hopeless. Bye my dude.
Do you really think the war wouldn't have happened if the south was like "ok, we'll end slavery, but we're still seceding."?
I find it more accurate to say that the reason for secession was due to slavery, but the reason for the civil war was to preserve the union. That way everyone gets to be wrong.
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1 SnapshillBot 2018-07-04
Fuck you I posted this and all I got was Ed being a retard
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1 headasplodes 2018-07-04
That is the lowest hanging fruit I've ever seen.
1 Ed_ButteredToast 2018-07-04
Yet still it gets the bait. Says much about the people there taking the bait lol.
1 better_bot 2018-07-04
>this agenda post is not my agenda
1 j1l1l1 2018-07-04
It was a little on the nose, but I wanted some fireworks for my 4tg of july.
1 voicelesshoodwinker 2018-07-04
Made by a former dramatard.
I salute you sir/madam.
1 dootwiththesickness 2018-07-04
u/j1l1l1 you are missed
1 j1l1l1 2018-07-04
Sorry but after the Bussy Bamboozle I am not sure I can trust "you people" anymore. Actually what am I saying, I don't want to see a moderator's gaping asshole that's disgusting.
1 DerekSavageCoolCuck 2018-07-04
Someone needs to watch the watchers.
1 Ed_ButteredToast 2018-07-04
Do you agree the democrats are the real racist? Also, thank you so much for states cold hard facts!
1 Ed_ButteredToast 2018-07-04
/u/TheMoonManRises Do you agree that democrats are the real racists? Also, thank you so much for stating cold hard facts!
1 RACE_OF_PEACE 2018-07-04
1 Sarge_Ward 2018-07-04
Relevant flair even! This is a decently well run novelty account.
1 Peepeeopsis 2018-07-04
/u/TheMoonManRises
Imagine being so pathetic that you have to prove how anti-racist you are by citing what the party you voted for did 150 years ago. Back when the term "liberal" wasn't being misused by you Ameritards.
1 dootwiththesickness 2018-07-04
Back then the term "liberal" referred to how much sugar you'd put in your tea.
1 cheeZetoastee 2018-07-04
I've been assured by numerous intellectuals that the demographics and ideologies of the two main parties have never shifted an iota in 200 years.
/u/TheMoonManRises
If the libtards are the real racists I'm going to need this article by national review founder William F Buckley explained - https://adamgomez.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/whythesouthmustprevail-1957.pdf
1 Raving_Dave 2018-07-04
Try telling that to liberals dab
1 SWIMsfriend 2018-07-04
the KKK was founded as a way to punish accused rapists outside of the judicial system. democrats enjoy destroying the lives of accused rapists today. the only reason Hardwick isn't hanging from a tree right now is because murdering accused rapists comes back in 2019.
Also the KKK was extremely anti-asian and Democrats like the mayor of NYC have said "we need to ban those slanty eyed yellow animals from schools."
1 cheeZetoastee 2018-07-04
is this pasta?
1 Pepperglue 2018-07-04
u/TheMoonManRises
Just like the GOP was the part of Lincoln, who wrecked the South in the Civil War.
Really doesn't mean anything.
1 Peepeeopsis 2018-07-04
South so inbred & retarded, they vote for the party they got massacred by!
Is this true, /u/TheMoonManRises?
1 Pepperglue 2018-07-04
Really asking for Sherman to return and finishes the job.
1 AggressionSsb 2018-07-04
They also created slavery while the reds voted to release them while 93% of the democrats voted against it lmao.
1 myshl0ng 2018-07-04
Was thinking of making one about white women who like travelling to "exotic" places
1 dootwiththesickness 2018-07-04
Please do, chumming the waters in that sub is always good for dramacoin.
1 moudougou 2018-07-04
u/TheMoonManRises are you a troll? Sorry for your feelings btw
1 mcslibbin 2018-07-04
lotta southerners in there saying their teachers agreed the civil war wasn't about slavery
i went to school in small-town texas and the line was always "it was about slavery"
...weird
1 Peepeeopsis 2018-07-04
Not a conservatard nor an Amerilard but maybe you're too young, and alt-right likes to talk about how the south is being niggerified so maybe they're right and you belong to the porch monkey era of Texas????
1 Bluest_waters 2018-07-04
teachers in the south go off script and inject their own nonsense into things
"it wasn't about slavery" is a popular thing down there. Doesn;'t happen everywhere, but it does happen
1 xXsnip_ur_ballsXx 2018-07-04
I mean, it was about state's rights.
Specifically, their right to own slaves.
1 GuillotinesNOW 2018-07-04
Your teacher must've illegally immigrated to Texas from some damn Yankee state where the schools are full of lies.
1 mcslibbin 2018-07-04
But like...all of them said that shit.
Maybe my teachers were trying to prevent a racial incident since my hometown was like 30% black
1 Raving_Dave 2018-07-04
Starterpacks is the ultimate centrist sub. I hate that I love it.
1 reptilia987 2018-07-04
Out of all of DDF's delusional arguments, I think this one tops the list. Imagine being so retarded that you think the modern day Democrat party has any semblance to the 1800s Democrat party.
1 UserUnknown2 2018-07-04
I mean, it's obvious they put all emphasis on names and nothing else, look who they voted for
1 Chicup 2018-07-04
Its pretty obvious the Democrats think blacks are inferior still based on how they treat them.
1 dootwiththesickness 2018-07-04
reallymakesyouthink.jpg
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1 Ed_ButteredToast 2018-07-04
uh huh! Keep telling yourself that!
1 hlary 2018-07-04
The kkk was founded as a prank group is that proof that prank channels are soon to be racial suprenaceists?
1 reallyrunningnow 2018-07-04
Please ... Fox news is a conspiracy to those who are (((woke)))with alzhimers
1 CholentPot 2018-07-04
I thought the KKK was started by Mel Brooks.
1 pantsunami 2018-07-04
lmao ok this is one of the strangest and lamest nerd insults ive seen on this site. like what does this even have to do with anything. i can just see this smug stemlord leaning back in his chair taking a big sip of his dew and smugly saying to himself “lel rekt” after typing that dumb shit
1 zeldaisaprude 2018-07-04
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEBMUHPARTYSWITCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
1 betazoom78 2018-07-04
Fact: Southern Strategy is real
1 dootwiththesickness 2018-07-04
/u/chabanais
1 GuillotinesNOW 2018-07-04
You have been banned from /r/conservative.
1 GuillotinesNOW 2018-07-04
People like /u/TheMoonManRises are the reason my spirit animal is what it is.
1 betazoom78 2018-07-04
He should've been the person who lit the olympic torch when they had them there.
1 imnotagayboy 2018-07-04
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zp7wJStCsMA
1 ProGenji 2018-07-04
Where is the chimp woodrow wilson on the pack?
Fucking goon started it all
1 LemonScore_ 2018-07-04
/u/TheMoonManRises A better argument to use against left-tards in the future would be bringing up the Corwin Amendment:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corwin_Amendment
The U.S. offered to not only legalize slavery forever, but make it a part of the U.S. Constitution so that it could never be made illegal. Lincoln himself supported it, too.
But the Confederacy wanted independence, so they weren't interested.
/u/bindingofspoopy and /u/Varlinwor - Do you buffoons have a rebuttal for this?
1 dootwiththesickness 2018-07-04
But then he'd have to reconcile this with the fact that it was a Republican president offering to do this.
All I can say is that the American opioid epidemic is one of the best things that has happened to the world in years.
1 Therattlesnakemaster 2018-07-04
You don't want to give legitimacy to a government that you just removed yourself from by partaking in its legislature
1 LemonScore_ 2018-07-04
But if secession was about slavery, then why would the Confederacy not accept the offer? They were being given everything they wanted and wouldn't need a war to get it.
The amendment was created and agreed upon without their input.
1 siempreloco31 2018-07-04
Given that the articles of secession explicitly state slavery as being the main reason, we could conclude that the South's retardation is genetic.
1 bindingofspoopy 2018-07-04
Amendments arnt guaranteed to be permanent. They can be cancelled out by another amendment. The Western world was pulling away from chattel slavery; France and England had already repealed it, Spain was poised to do the same). These sentiments were rising in the US as well. The south knew that the only way to keep their precious slaves was to leave the union.
1 Varlinwor 2018-07-04
Alright, another ignorant little slut in denial coming at me.
Here's the two future's that the Confederacy saw, assuming slavery continued for the intermediate future:
Slavery continues under an independent Confederacy that rules itself, where slavery is assured to stay.
Slavery continues under the South, while the South is being subject to the whole of the United States. And there's a good chance that sooner rather than later the rest of the United States will pull another move to re-reeeee amend the constitution and make slavery illegal.
If you're the little shit of a slave owner that was Jefferson Davis, you would know that Congress only rushed this amendment to incentivise the South to stay. So you gotta be one hell of a stupid moron to not think that the rest of the Union will retract the Corwin amendment as soon as the country had a better holding grip on the South.
So no shit the Confederacy would tell the Yankees to shove their amendment and constitution up their ass. This was before the war had started and the idea of an independent South and guaranteed slavery was very much real and strong to the Confederacy?
So why the fuck would they do something as stupid (from their perspective at that particular time in 1861) as to accept this questionable amendment and give up their dream (which again I remind was very much real and attainable at that point before both sides went deep into war) of independence and guaranteed slavery? ! ! !
Makes sense? Probably not, you're still gonna be in denial.
You nasty slut.
1 LemonScore_ 2018-07-04
There is no basis at all to believe that the amendment was a bluff, and if it were it would just lead to another war. Avoiding a war was the entire point.
An amendment that is promised to be permanent is a lot less risky than a massive war. Upholding the Constitution is one of the things that gives the U.S. government legitimacy, if they reneged on their agreement states would be even more justified in breaking away.
No, especially given that, after winning the war, Lincoln and the rest didn't make blacks equal to whites under the law. Lincoln didn't give a damn about the immorality of slavery or black rights.
The reason the North wanted to abolish slavery was because industrialisation made it unprofitable to the industrialized North and to fuck up the South's economy so they couldn't rebel again.
1 Varlinwor 2018-07-04
Again, as we have established that you're stupid, and Jefferson Davis (regardless of being an asshole) was far smarter than you, and could call out on bullshit on meaningless, retractable offers that guarantee nothing and have lots of risk... just as we established your humongous ignorance in relative to Davis (or anyone else really) we also need to establish the fact that, relatively to Lincoln, you are even more tremendously dumb. In fact words will certainly fail to conceive how much of an idiot you are in that comparison.
In short, Lincoln saw the obvious (which you would realize too if you opened a goddamn history book and actually read it once in your ignorant life) During his time, Lincoln found resistance to the Emancipation Proclamation and the 13th Amendment not just from the South, but even some in the North. As I told the other true buffon on the original thread, while the average 1870's White Southerner was obviously more racist than the average 1870's White Northerner... the reality however is that the average 1870's White Northerner is much more racist that the average White Southerner of the 2010's.... duuuh
It was clear to Lincoln that pretty much all of America was racist against black people. Yes, there was wide support for the abolition of slavery in the North; however, declaring that Black people should not be enslaved and treated as animals is one thing... going so far as to declare that Black people are EQUAL to White people is an entirely more different and extreme measure in comparison.
Had Lincoln in his time tried to be so reckless as to push for actual equal rights from the get go and equating Whites and Blacks in America, he would have had so much resistance from both North and South that not even the Thirteenth Amendment would pass... no shit Sherlock.
So my dearest brainless, nasty slut who's living in denial, anyone with a handful of brain cells (let alone Lincoln) would have realized under no circumstances can Black people get actual equal rights during Lincoln's time, and it's actually detrimental to pursue such critical thing in a rush.
The journey to true equality could never have been done in a handful of years after the Civil War. America had to adapt first, step by step. And it would take much longer than a century for America finish that journey. And yet to this day, after all this time there is still elements of Americana that is struggling with the idea that White people and Black people are equal humans.
Kapeesh? Again, probably not... you filthy hoe. You're still gonna in your cocoon of denial and having wet dreams about "the south shall rise ageeeeeeen". Oh well, if you're that much in denial it's hopeless. Bye my dude.
1 PM_ME_UR_FAV_ROCK 2018-07-04
Do you really think the war wouldn't have happened if the south was like "ok, we'll end slavery, but we're still seceding."?
I find it more accurate to say that the reason for secession was due to slavery, but the reason for the civil war was to preserve the union. That way everyone gets to be wrong.
1 zeldaisaprude 2018-07-04
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEBMUHPARTYSWITCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
1 dootwiththesickness 2018-07-04
This is the second time you’ve posted this. Why’d you delete the first one? You sounded like a retard then too.