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Jessica is that you

/r/GuildWars2 thread - https://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/8weir8/mike_obrien_responds_to_the_incident/

Ghazi thread - https://www.reddit.com/r/GamerGhazi/comments/8wc0fm/the_guild_wars_2_subreddit_is_up_in_arms_over_a/

Good stuff.

> A prominent Twitter use decided to disagree with her, so she called out the mansplaining

This is posted without a trace of irony.

Oh the "prominent twitter user" (as well as another one she laid into, Inks) who she referred to as "rando asshats" are actually popular and well respected ArenaNet partners.

"I'm shitting on my audience and I got pushback", the story that keeps on giving.

journalists should only pander to the lowest comedy nom nom nominator

more like essentially shitting on coworkers/contractors of her employer doing what her employer pays/incentivises in w/e way them to do.

essentially she assblasted this guy with sexist remarks for doing his literal job at the same company.

Don't forget, the same guy actually had previously spoken very highly of her. He was a fan of her work.

The main dude actually has an NPC named after him iirc.

Freedom of speech isnt freedom from consequences, /u/DBones90

Hope one day you learn why we value being polite to those who are good willing

How dare that company tone police!

Wtf is gamer ghazi ? Their sidebar reads like steaight fucking satire 😂😂😂

Ghazi is the opposite of KotakuInAction, the retarded yin to their autistic yang. I honestly don't know which side is more cringeworthy, but I would suggest not diving too deep into it unless you really have absolutely no life like me and spend all your time on drama metareddits.

They removed every comment in that thread denying that what this dev experienced was sexism/mansplaining, even their own members were pushing back against this one. But as usual the mods know better and removed all dissenting opinions.

This is all just further evidence that children shouldn't be allowed access to the social media and most of the internet.

unless you really have absolutely no life like me and spend all your time on drama metareddits.

you say that as if it's a bad thing.

The popcorn from this whole debacle has been absolutely gold tier delicious.

Well I don't think we ever saw a "I can't live without Kia" post, so ghazi takes the cake in my book

God that poor bastard.

Was that Gary digit or....colbyklaus

That was Colby. I once offered to pay for his therapy if he'd stay the fuck off reddit and Twitter, but got no response. Geary's beyond help.

I can't tell them apart anymore.

You can't mention something that juicy without linking the thread

Can you give me a run down?

What the fuck is 'gamergate', 'kotakuinaction', and 'ghazi'?

Embrace ignorance. Think gender politics, only it even more retarded, because it revolves solely around vydia and pop culture.

Don't let any autist tell you one side is better than the other.

Moshi moshi

One side is better than the other

NO

Try to imagine all of the sad, miserable losers of the internet gathered in one place.

Now imagine all of the people who were too shitty to get into that place gathered in another place.

The first group is KotakuInAction (although it used to be better).

The second group is GamerGhazi.

Gamergate was this big shitstorm involving nerds and games journalists being shitbags with delusions of being shining crusaders for social change. The usual "men are evil, lets throw everything at them and see what sticks" shenanigans took place.

Try to imagine all of the sad, miserable losers of the internet gathered in one place

SRD?

Now imagine all of the people who were too shitty to get into that place gathered in another place.

And Drama.

Yep.

What is "ghazi" supposed to mean? I know "Kotaku" is a gaming website

gamergate was some retarded shit about a developer fucking reporters for good reviews. kotakuinaction hates le sjws and gamerghazi hates le goobergators.

This is a rare moment where I can celebrate with KiA. It makes me feel horrible, but then I remember, I don't really care.

I think kia is more cringy (caring about goobergobbler in 2k18) but ghazi is more retarded by a mile

Ghazi is the opposite of KotakuInAction, the retarded yin to their autistic yang.

This is why I subscribe to this sub. You people have a beautiful way with words.

The drama is just the icing on top.

i mean we are all here

They're people still assblasted about GamerGate in current year +3, they moved past satire long ago.

Far-left shrieking mongtards.

Wtf is gamer ghazi ?

Rapists and pedophiles.

Wtf is gamer ghazi ?

http://thisisvideogames.com/gamergatewiki/index.php/GamerGhazi

Try to imagine all of the sad, miserable losers of the internet gathered in one place.

Now imagine a place with all of the people who were too shitty to get into that place gathered in another place.

That's gamerghazi.

I've encountered a few of these people on Twitter. They are the biggest bullies I've seen in that site. Even offering a neutral opinion will bring out fangs and virtue signaling.

Did her white knight get the ax as well?

More like a lance through the heart.

He did, yes. That was a bigger surprise than her, she's been a pain in the ass for a long time. I don't think people (no matter what their opinions) deserve to be fired because of stupid twitter spats, but it's been a fun day watching these leftist types getting owned hard. Freedom of speech is not freedom from consequences, as they so love to say.

They needed to fire a man too to prove they weren't discriminating and that dumbass stuck his head in the noose for them.

Seriously. The only way to get away with firing her is to fire him as well. That would be even worse if she made it about sexism and then they only fired the woman and not the man. Dude practically asked to be fired. Zero pity for white knights tho

he probably wasn't fired, he probably quit in solidarity

(forgetting that no one would give a shit and come to his rescue)

Bahahaha, that's incredible. I'm surprised that whoever's in charge had the balls to fire them both. How else has the woman been a pain in the ass?

Just more of the same really, lots of typical "sjw" type posts that really rile up groups like KiA. She had this to say about TotalBuscuit - https://twitter.com/Delafina777/status/1000045432007938048

The kindest thing I can say is "I'm glad he's no longer around to keep doing harm."

I think a lot of this recent blowback has been her choosing two of the worst targets to direct her annoyance at. They are both super nice and polite and a big part of the GW2 community, as well as being directly affiliated with ArenaNet, she was bashing two of their "partners."

All I can say is that I hope you step back and realize what a colossal tool the little girl you once were has become. Shame on you.

Damn

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It's nice to see some justice for that bullshit. In most industries you'd get shitcanned for acting like an ambassador to your company without permission, let alone making a controversial comment with your company attached to your name, but for whatever reason the game industry seems to let employees run wild and act like children while representing the brand. She's probably getting blacklisted too; her best hope for employment is probably with some shitty indie dev. Firing her was the hard part.

I think it's the dichotomy between the artistic types in game development and the programming/business types.

Which really goes back to the original heart of the whole gamer gate thing. You got the old school gamers who cheer on stories like the urban legend of John Carmack rewriting the physics engine for Doom over a weekend wired on caffeine. And then the new hipsters and their walking simulators talking about how gaming must be avenue for providing "voices" for minorities.

Obviously the first group aint cool with the devs getting out there and being political, unless that politics is about how 60 fps is our godgiven right. But the second group isn't just cool with it, it helps with publicity.

60fps is borderline poverty levels. Join the 144 minimum fps movement today!

I'll join the 144 movements once I've got Retina monitors that can support it.

I should probably get new monitors.

I feel bad when i remember all those poor bastards who can't get graphics cards, while my 1070 is only pushing pixels to a 1080p monitor.

Most people are smart enough to keep the professional accounts professional and the shitposting accounts anonymous.

Like, I've seen similar discussions between pro devs where they disagreed and no one started throwing around sexism and unironic "don't @ me"s.

Who passed?

T*talB*scuit

As did your career.

lolz

the writing of gw2 has been absolutely abysmal since the the first story update. base game isn't that great either.

everyone involved in the story deserves the axe.

Fair enough. The white knighting is what stops the whole thing from blowing over. Like, if she was just pulling the woman card and everyone said "oh fuck off" then it wouldn't be an issue. If she plays the woman card and a bunch of white knights descend, then it's a problem.

Companies don't want to sort this shit out, they want to just ignore it and hope it goes away. White knights make it a lot harder to just ignore.

Ghazi whiteknights sure as hell sound like those who reeeeed about battlefield right now.... So, hypocritical till the end...as always.

First he had his nut cut off, axing the rest of his nu-male body was the kind thing to do.

Guy disagrees with you and tries to start a conversation.

Have a panic attack. Start seizing, shitting everything and convulsing.

dude mayo gussy lmao

I know I hate kiatards, but holy fucking shit if ghazi haven't got the whitest of knights and are not completely the same.

I know I dislike kiatards, but holy shit, ghazi sure as hell are at the same levels of retardation by now.

And damn if they don't have the whitest of knights

"She has nothing to apologize for, everyone is allowed to be a tiny bit rude sometimes."

Come on pissant, we both know that if sexes were reversed you all would be reeing for the hanging of a male developer.

"Le horseshoe isn't real centristst are the real enemy xDd"

Dude, one can agree that kia and ghazi subs are both full of retards, you don't need to be a centrist for that.

I know I dislike kiatards, but holy shit, ghazi sure as hell are at the same levels of retardation by now.

They've always been way worse, from the very beginning.

Who the hell looks at that mess of a woman, Zoe Quinn, and thinks "yeah, I need to spend the next 4 years fighting people who dislike her on the internet".

Counterpoint - whi the hell hives about some rando mayo american chick to shit on her for 4 years.

Wasnt her sleeping with journalist for a boost of her crappy game more a syptom of the main problem?

I never really understood the gamergate/anti-gamergate debate

Imagine if you only left your house for console game releases.

This applies to both sides.

console game

Oh Jesus...

Unsurprisingly It didn't happen like kia claimed but I can't be fucked to explain it all. Short version is he mentioned her game once and it wasn't even a review which of course calls for oppressed gamers of the world to RISE UP

Lol that was before Gamergate. The progenitor of Gamergate was the ten or so "Gamers are dead", "Gamers don't have to be your audience" articles that were released within hours of each other.

I'm not entirely sure what gamergate is about because of how it is fragmented. You do have the people that followed through with the whole journalism integrity in gaming; it was more the fact that the reviewers that gave her game good reviews also slept with her. Some people went and started to say that it was an issue with women in gaming/people fighting back against them, and people who think the whole thing is sexist and revenge because it was started by the ex of Zoe who exposed everything after their relationship finally went down the drain.

Finding the core drive for gamergate is difficult because people like to misrepresent, and misconstrued what people mean.

Do you think social justice is the most vital struggle of our times or not? That's really all it's about, with everything else stemming from one side or the other.

these people don't give a shit about social justice or progressive values.

the principle figures in this bullshit (in all of the drama episodes) are full time internet forum warriors and have been for much of their adult lives into their child hood years.

it's just migrated from old school internet forums like something awful into social media like twitter and reddit. and become immensely more profitable and ego feeding as news outlets report on their tweets in the most banal and counterproductive manner possible.

it's like if the civil rights movement of the 1960s decided instead of rosa parks they'd pick a crack head untreated schizophrenic woman with abusing her children from multiple different multi racial fathers. in 1960s america. and the objective wasn't subtantial movement towards equal rights, the objective was to make white moderates upset simply to point out how awful they are for w/e contrived sense of satisfacation they could derive from it.

that's the end all and be all of the current IDPOL/SOCJUS drama fest these days. that news media either falls for it or exploits it for their own narratives just feeds the fire and motivates people like jessica price to be as unemployable as possible under any normal business practice that exists for the average worker these days.

Those rant is so difficult to read I can't tell if you're disagreeing with me because you're a ghazifag or a kiatard. Is this radical centrism?

thats why im here

I do not. I just find it really interesting to read, and try and figure out what people wanted.

Wasnt her sleeping with journalist for a boost of her crappy game more a syptom of the main problem?

Yes.

1. She allegedly fucks a bunch of hack game journos for publicity

2. In response, allegation, mods on subreddits and 4chan start purging posts discussing the topic

3. Multiple "Gamers are Dead" articles are published by separate gaming journalism outlets at around the same date

4. Milo Yiannopoulos of Breitbart (😩😩💦💦) publishes an article exposing the "GameJournoPros" Google Groups list and emails

Thus, the autistic crusade began.

Wasnt her sleeping with journalist for a boost of her crappy game

That never happened. Gjoni even says this in thezoepost:

"There was a typo up for a while that made it seem like Zoe and I were on break between March and June. This has apparently led some people to infer that her infidelity with Nathan Grayson began in early March. I want to clarify that I have no reason to believe or evidence to imply she was sleeping with him prior to late March or early April (though I believe they’d been friends for a while before that). This typo has since been corrected to make it clear we were on break between May and June. To be clear, if there was any conflict of interest between Zoe and Nathan regarding coverage of Depression Quest prior to April, I have no evidence to imply that it was sexual in nature."

No idea why people keep repeating it when the guy that started it all literally says the opposite.

Wasnt her sleeping with journalist for a boost of her crappy game more a syptom if the main problem?

/u/PeteCampbellisaG

Stating the truth isn’t “gaslighting”.

Are you talking about this specific instance or about online harassment tactics in general? In this specific instance I don't know what "truth" the person was even telling her. He was giving his subjective analysis of what he thought would improve the game and she (in my estimation) overreacted.

Yeah like, she overreacted but didnt deserve to get fired or have nerds asking for her head. She acted like a cunt but who gives a fuck we are all rude sometimes. So people to overcompensate go and defend her behaviour

Honestly i just hate twitter.

To be fair she called a content partner a sexist man baby asshat, told game user she only pretended to like them , celebrated the death of a man from cancer and had many articles written about her

huh

alright then fuck her i guess

This ain't the first offense or even the worst offense. She actually got fired from her last job for similar reasons

girl needs to learn some self control then

The thing is, she and her ilk push for firing and blacklisting (along with relentless group shaming), so it really stands out when they don't get the same treatment.

People have tried reasoning with them, with predictable results. Literally the only way they're ever going to stop is if the shit they're pushing affects them too.

I get you fam, but I think is more important to stand for what you believe than to be all " haha how does it feel now bitch "

His suggestion would objectively improve the game if it were implemented, it just takes a fuckton of resources to implement. And accusing someone of 'mansplaining' is more than an overreaction. She implied that he was a sexist/bigot for sharing his opinion.

Reported to admins for gaslighting

Well said. And in Jessica's defense I think it's also important to remember gaslighting is one of the fav tactics of the GG crowd trying to antagonize someone. "All we did was sit in the front row!" "All I did was try and have a reasonable discussion" "Why are you so angry?"

Yeah, that's all they did. Yeah, that's all he did. Yeah, that's a good question.

None of that is "gaslighting".

I see you live on that planet where things like context, subtext, and double meaning don't exist so I'll just let you keep enjoying the weather there.

I see you live on a planet where sense doesn't exist either. How's the weather on Planet Buzzword today?

Giving you the benefit of the doubt. It must be difficult pretending to understand so little about the world just so you can rile people up online. Thanks for the laughs.

Why are you so angry?

male feminist perhaps?

Every word has 5 meanings and every person has a double with a dagger pointed at your backs.

You faggots need serious therapy.

Can you explain what the context, subtext and double meanings were in your comment, please? I genuinely don't see and want to know.

Context matters

Oh, so you support #FreeDankula then?

online harassment tactics in general?

"I disagree with you" - "Stop gaslighting me into thinking I'm wrong!"

Gas lighting: Trying to change someone's opinion by offering another perspective

/u/skynix_dystoxia

I don't know how I feel about this.

Translation:

I understand that treating customers like shit is stupid if you want to keep your job, but I really hate people who play video games so I feel like she was justified.

He doesn't want to get banned for wrongthink. Even their dumbest can see she was a giant sexist liability.

/u/skynix_dystoxia

So Arenanet just announced that both Jessica and Peter got fired for what happened.

I don't know how to feel about this.

You should feel good that a trashy waste of space was removed from the GW2 community, but she has a vag so you feel the need to act tribal.

You Ghazitards are the legbeard equivalent of white knights, except you're even more pathetic because you aren't even doing it to try to get laid. You're just annoying.

/u/caelrie is doing her thing where she argues with someone and deletes all of their comments so it looks like she's winning.

Yeah it's usually her who does that, always makes me laugh. I think she is the only ghazi mod radical enough to end up in the karma negatives on her own sub so regularly.

/u/littlemissp (among others) used to do it on TwoX all the time. Mods are sad, lonely people.

Mods are sad, lonely people.

This can not be stressed enough.

Moderation is like masturbation for your ego. But in the end you still cry all the same.

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well, the majority are thirsty white knights so that's a bit of an exaggeration.

Of course gamerghazi is deleting anybody who doesn't think the garbage person was in the right.

If you were explaining to a doctor how to prescribe meds and pointed out something exceedingly obvious and not helpful, would you expect a discussion about your "idea?"

You don't tell a cart pusher at a grocery store some obvious trite stuff about pushing carts.

u/PurrincessMeowMeow what are you doing on gamer ghazi if you think only the creators of games should have the right to express opinions about them?

You can express opinions about games and think of ways that it could be improved. There's just a difference between doing that to whatever audience and hunting down a specific person to tell them directly.

I don't think that's a particularly hard concept, right?

Yeah, it's not like game developers have an interest in hearing their customer's opinions or anything like that. Also, what kind of creeper would respond to someone's public post on social media? Eww.

I know women are terribly fragile and men need to learn that politely expressing opinions around them can (will) cause PTSD, but tbh I think you're being a wee bit hysterical here.

...I'm being hysterical for making one post on the concept saying I can kind of understand why it happened?

Versus... you? The person who specifically read my post and was so riled up to call for my attention in public to talk about it?

Okay. Yeah. Sure.

I think you really need this win, so I think I'll let you have it.

Today in being a PoC (1/4 Jewish) /r/drama poster:

"Allow me--a mayo who does not post here--explain to you how to make your posts"

very problematic tbh

If said custodian was doing it with a scythe, I'd expect them to realize their stupidity and thank the person profusely.

How is responding to a post on social media "hunting down a specific person"?

"Hey, you should definitely use a broom to sweep the floor!" to a custodian.

How many other analogies do you need to justify that shit to yourself actually? Is there any possible way that you stay on topic and realize that it was a totally normal comment regarded the source comment, or is that not woke enough for you all over there?

hunting down a specific person

This seems to be a common theme of this weirdo kind of criticism - conflate normal activity on a public forum with something sinister and Bad. Is this an intentional tactic or do you people legitimately not grasp how public forums work? Little bit of both, maybe?

/u/chewinchawingum and /u/caelrie, what steps are required to become so woke that every critical interaction with a Woman™ in public becomes either mansplaining or sexism or gaslighting?

Come on, he tried to explain the concept of "branching dialog" to a game developer veteran.

You know that's bullshit.

Your entire comment is bullshit, /u/caelrie. What the fuck does a developer care about branching dialogue? They're coding the game, not developing the story line.

JP wasn't a dev, she was a writer. You can't even get your facts straight enough to form a plausible narrative lol

Patriarchy 1, women in game developing 0

Ghazi are screeching already, kia is probably a more sticky and smelly than usual by now.

It's the current year everyone!

Putin's behind this

Vlad is behind everything and everyone...EVEN YOU RIGHT NOW.

I can almost feel his hot Cossack breath on my shoulder....

its not his breath.

just so you know.

don't ruin the fantasy, dammit!

I thought I was improving it :( sorry

bro /r/GamersRiseUp ;)

wtf is that

Holy shit it is awesome

Why was the link removed? Are regular drama users not supposed to know about that subreddit? Is it supposed to be a secret subreddit?

What was the link? PM me!

https://www.reddit.com/r/GamersRiseUp/

nice

what game is that from

Amazonian warriors 2

I read on kotaku that it is better than civ 5 with the brave new world expansion pack

yeah cool troll answer but i googled it already.

Sega COD fishing?

That must be the one after the Bass Fishing

that meme makes no sense within the context of the game, it's arguing for women in gaming

“Women in game developing”. Please. Bitch wasn’t a game dev, she was a writer.

The important part is that if you disagree with her, you're a bigot.

Writing is part of the game development process fam

What kind of faggot game has writing in it? Take that latte sipping metrosexual shit back to San Francisco.

This but unironically.

Fuck off. You don’t call yourself a developer unless you’re writing code.

Til 1/2 to 3/4 of people working on a game are not developers

Yeah? Artists aren't developers. Writers aren't developers. Developer is a word with meaning.

Developers means all the people involved in creating a game. If you talk about the deva, you are not only talking about the code monkeys, but also the designers, artists and Co.

Only in the loosest sense. If someone lists a job for a game developer, they want a coder.

I suppose that's true, but the term has really evolved in the colloquial sense to mean the people in involved in making the game.

If one person makes all the game decision, from balance, levels, ect, and another person codes everything into the game, when you talk about who the game developer was, you're going to refer to the person who made all the decisions and created the game, even if they weren't the one to implement it.

When you comment on a video game forum wanting a "game developer" response you don't want someone who coded the game, you want someone who makes the design decisions, whether they do coding or not.

Developers means all the people involved in creating a game.

Not really, if you call yourself a developer it's implied that you've been involved with the technical aspects of the product

Waaaah mom the boys said I'm not a developer

If you walked into a game studio and said you were a developer, they wouldn't ask you which kind of developer you were - writer? designer? artist? They'd ask you to code for them.

DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS

If writing means your a game developer is William Wordsworth a game developer for having his writing in Civil 6?

lmao game development is the creation of a game. Coders, writers, artists, are aaaaaall part of game development.

waaaaaaaah wammen waaaaaaaaaaaah

lol ok you fat neckbeard

Useless roastie twat

Can I get this as a flair tho

I put in a request

Find a job listing for a game developer that isn't coding.

Sick blatant sexism bruh.

Useless roastie twat.

Thanks.

The only reason anyone is defending Jessica Price is because she's a white woman.

Imagine if she was black, like really stereotypical black with curly hair.

Like Rachel Dolezal?

http://a57.foxnews.com/images.foxnews.com/content/fox-news/us/2018/07/02/rachel-dolezal-also-known-as-nkechi-diallo-booked-and-released-on-welfare-fraud-other-charges/_jcr_content/par/featured_image/media-0.img.jpg/931/524/1530578092293.jpg?ve=1&tl=1

That Pennywise forehead.

She actually does look black, tbh. Idk if she got work done, or just had the right facial features (seems so from earlier pictures).

Bronzer and a curling iron does not make you black homie.

I meant in terms of facial shape. Skin tone and hair won't make anybody look black.

If you look up the pics of her as a mayo you will see that she's always had a potato nose and a ham shaped face, it's just less offensive when you aren't white.

https://thenypost.files.wordpress.com/2017/03/spl1051689_002_111960955.jpg

https://rollingout.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/Rachel-Dolezal-young-600.jpg

Maybe some European blood I'm not used to seeing.

But hey, if she wants to be transracial, I'd say let her. She ain't harming anybody, and ain't trying to be disrespectful. She's just weird.

I ain't part of that ethnicity so I don't get a say in whether or not its appropriate but judging from the reaction and subsequent fallout I'd say they weren't cool with it.

Well, historically, people getting offended isn't necessarily the best measure to go by. :P

Bruh they literally fired her from the NAACP, across the board the black community rejected her ass.

That's fair, because she did lie in the first place. But then you get into different-definition, philosophical territory. What about transgendered people? Are they lying when they believe their mental gender is different than their physical gender?

Is she crazy? Are they crazy?

Many, many people get offended by transgendered people. Is it justified? What if a man who identifies as a woman gets kicked from Women's Right Club? Were they lying?

Obviously there are huge differences between being transraced and transgendered, but there are enough similarities on whether it's wrong or right that I feel it's worth pointing out.

Are they lying when they believe their mental gender is different than their physical gender?

Well there is certainly a high amount of mental illness in the community, look at the suicide rates post transition and tell me thats a healthy community. Society doesn't want to associate mental illness with being trans because it hurts feelings.

Is she crazy or delusional? Are they?

yes, yes, and a little.

What if a "man" who identifies as a "woman" gets kicked from The Women's Equal Rights Klub?

Thats what TERFs are all about. Actually a growing sentiment in the feminist community is that trans people do not experience the same issue women do. Thats why trans women tend to stick to lgbtbbq groups, because they are more relevant.

Do their good intentions even matter?

Not in current PC culture, you are invalidated the moment you fall outside the desired form.

but there are enough similarities on determing whether it's wrong or right that I feel it's worth pointing out.

You actually brought up some interesting points and while I do not consider them similar enough to compare I appreciate having my views challenged.

You have a sick imagination.

Aaand that's why you don't let your public-facing job get under your skin.

user reports: 1: Shills for YouTube.

somebody's got your number, goubert

Excellent career move tbh, now she gets to take up the lecturing circuit talking about misogyny on gaming after get martyrdom.

I'm seeing consulting contracts in her future

Probably not. In the cases where woman involved in GG landed jobs over it, they were targeted by tons of angry and often obsessive people whose 'cause' isn't something that anyone who isn't a basement-dweller couldn't sympathize with. This woman was acting as an ambassador for the company she was employed by and blew up when a valued community member respectfully gave an opinion. The situation here is black-and-white- she fucked up big time, and hiring her would not only be a PR disaster but put whatever company she works for at risk of being on the receiving end of her accusations of bigotry. Her career prospects are very grim going forward.

The situation here is black-and-white- she fucked up big time, and hiring her would not only be a PR disaster but put whatever company she works for at risk of being on the receiving end of her accusations of bigotry.

Lol from what I've read this scenario is what just happened, it was the situation they had when ANet hired her. She had gotten canned from her previous job for the same kinda posting and the GW2 fans warned and pleaded with ANet not to hire her because of it. Silly progressives.

Wait, really? That's amazing.

They called the people who warned about her sexist in the thread that noted her twitter history.

wow that's really stupid.

https://www.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/6jnn8j/tabletop_gaming_notorious_sjw_jessica_price/

Yep, a year ago apparently.

citing kia in 2k18

They ended up being right, not that that's a great achievement or anything. It takes zero braincells to know basic shit like how all male feminists are rapists and shrieking twitter shit-slingers make for bad devs.

It takes zero braincells to know basic shit

That still makes us a cut above the rest sweaty

Hey, no pointing out that goobergaters are pretty much always right about this shit. They're all deranged womyn haters covered in cheeto dust.

goobergaters are pretty much always right about this shit

> not knowing about confirmation bias in the Year of our Lord 2018

god bless

Just because they, in the words of my favourite paranoid schizophrenic, "allow themselves to notice things" it doesn't mean they're not every bit of the retarded radicalized seriousposters we claim they are.

Tfw you're such a problematic person that you cannot stay in the same job for a year before getting canned.

We told Reddit the same thing when they hired Ellen Pao, and even showed them the article from Fortune magazine (from 2009!) where she and her husband were featured for trying to scam former employers and business partners with fake discrimination/harassment cases. They hired her anyway. Apparently the Reddit admins love drama as much as we do!

Here's the article if anyone's interested: http://fortune.com/2012/10/25/ellen-pao-buddy-fletcher/

We tried to warn them, but... they didn't listen. :(

I'd actually love to see the website that could have been had we let a whole bunch of redditors make the important decisions here. I think it would be something to see.

I'd actually love to see the website that could have been had we let a whole bunch of redditors make the important decisions here. I think it would be something to see.

If Reddit had started crowdsourcing decision-making and structure prior to ~2012, that would have been a radical and potentially amazing possibility. Nowadays it's too big, too public, too controversial, and there are too many interest groups on this site who would try to maneuver themselves into a position of authority (as already happens with mod teams in many subs). I don't know if we'll ever reach that bright future for user-generated collaborative community-building, but I don't see it happening here, tbh.

It seems like a repeat of the Adria Richards thing, and I don't think she's ever found another tech gig.

What happened then?

I'm sure you'll remember this:

http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/events/donglegate-adria-richards

Donglegate was the start of it all. How was that 5 years ago? The second reddit purge was about to happen, with FPH on the chopping block.

She's the OG for this shit, donglegate was the originator

Lmao not knowing about Elevatorgate, learn your history kids. Elevatorgate was the shot heard round the world. It was when the SJW vs. anti-SJW divide really crystallized and the culture war shifted from atheists vs Christians.

Elevatorgate was way tamer than Donglegate. She didn't shame the guy at all and she basically only said that hey, maybe 4 AM isn't the best time to ask someone out. It only blew up because PZ "read my blog" Myers needed to virtue signal and then Richard "fucking" Dawkins had to stick his ancient wrinkled wrankle into the fray.

Richards had honest-to-goodness paranoid schizophrenia, which probably played a bigger role in her not working than any culture-war fallout. There's a chapter about her in Jon Ronson's So You've Been Publically Shamed book.

Richards had honest-to-goodness paranoid schizophrenia

Wait, what?

For real?

I don't know about the actual condition, but she comes across as pretty unhinged in So You've Been Publically Shamed.

Wow, very insightful. Thanks for sharing.

Details!

Here is a link an excerpt about it from the book. It's pretty long, but it's a good read and goes into some detail about her mental health.

TBH that could just be the level of indoctrination she’s undergone- or maybe feminism attracts the mentally ill the way corporate structure attracts sociopaths.

How the fuck do you drag up obscure drama from forums no one ever goes to, but you totally forgot about Dongle-Gate?

Adria Richards was a nobody who the intranet wanted to punish because they don't believe women should ever retort sexual harassment. Notice that no decision maker in the incident was ever punished. The company involved is a bunch of dickless bastards and the hackers involved all need to be thrown into the ocean to improve the world.

You choose the weirdest characters to do.

Can anyone confirm? I can't sleep at night knowing that it's possible she might not have been reduced to a penniless hobo.

they were targeted by tons of angry and often obsessive people

There was an entire FBI investigation that showed how that did not happen.
They found a couple obsessive stalkers, that was it.

The funny thing was, I checked the social justice circles to see how they reacted- and they were actually insisting that the report supported their boogeyman delusions and that the Government just refused to go after them because???

Iirc, the FBI summarized the whole thing as "no actionable leads", also because Anita refused to press charges against one identified harasser that lived in south america.

Refresh my memory on who brought the identity of said harasser to her attention?

Her career prospects are very grim going forward.

She is a programmer. She is going to be fine.

I know at least of one unironic nazi that is actually vocal about his view on twitter, but he had no issue finding a job

She's not a programmer she's a writer.

PrOgRaMmErS cAn WrItE tOo

She's a writer; for every one of her there's thousands waiting for so much as a step into a career path. And game writers are all shit anyway so it doesn't matter who she's replaced with tbqhwy

Oh, then idgaf

It doesn't matter, they'll have her back anyway. Maybe even more so.

See also Alison Rapp and Adria Richards.

She's already started the narrative making it about an overarching cultural of misogyny and that spin is working its way up the outlet chain.

remember, she is a professional at narrative design.

Don't forget collaboration with Anita Sarkeesian

Anita used to be everywhere, but now

She's going to Gencon isn't she?

Yes but tabletop is full of sexists, and some tabletop gate will flare up

Right and? Her experience is talking about Tropes in Video Games.

Her experience is in stirring up shitstorms in the search of those sweet sweet patreon bucks

the supply of “talent” in that field vastly exceeds the demand

She is writter, she is use to that

You edited this and it's still wrong.

I ain't a writer

No job security in it anyway.

you cant make money from that anymore lol have you seen what some of them have resorted to now

Who was the one who got fired from Nintendo for being an actual prostitute, and had to resort to selling photos of her beef curtains to thirsty guys on Patreon?

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Hey cap'n, that won't show because of dox. Autofilter snags it. Baleet the link so I can approve it.

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link shorteners are automatically removed by the site.... even goo.gl

Worked for me. Pretty hot tbh.

oh ok whoops

thnx bby

Allison Rapp.

Who was the one who got fired from Nintendo for being an actual prostitute

Nintendo should not have fired her unless she was in jail and unable to complete her job duties or she was being a ho on company time.

That is exactly what will happen. This human waste of a "developer" will become a poster feminist icon.

Freedom of speech doesn't mean freedom from consequences.

>women

😂😂😂

Holy shit i got new flair

And it's beautiful.

Dude, I want a special flair too :(

And that's a good thing

Anyone who values their career should delete their twitter and facebook accounts immediately. In the heat of the moment, you'll always be tempted to say stupid shit like this. The only winning move is not to play. Social media was a mistake.

I have an inactive FB account and some empty Twitter that I long have forgotten the password to. What do I win, good sir?

Gainful employment

If you want to participate in retarded spats on Twatter, use an anonymous handle. Problem with anonymity is that you can't credibly play your sweet, sweet "professional woman in gaymen" card whenever you get rhetorically cornered.

And have multiple Twitter accounts. That won't stop a subpoena (Twitter can associate them via IP and maybe other methods) but it will limit the damage of a dox.

If you've done something to get your Twitter subpoenaed odds are you deserve the consequences.

Problem with anonymity is that you can't credibly play your "professional woman in gaymen" card whenever you get rhetorically cornered

The solution is to do a Q-type thing where you drop small proofs of you being a professional game developer or whatever every once in a while, but still keep yourself anonymous.

WWG1WGA

Why does this piss me off so bad

Do you find senior abuse distasteful? Particularly scams that target them

Idgaf about that, I'm talking about WWG1WGA which is legit the most retarded shit ever. It's stupid long an unwieldy, and it isn't even a proper sentence for it's length. It fucking rumbles my Jimbos.

They borrowed it from the movie White Squall and somehow convinced their followers it's a JFK quote

They have a bigger fetish for nonsensical slogans than Ingsoc.

where we game (1) we game all

We were gay 1nce, we were gay always

use an anonymous handle

Preferably with a smug anime girl as the profile pic.

Everyone should delete their twitter and facebook accounts immediately

FTFY

A game company not failing miserably on their PR is one of the rarest thing nowadays.

Best you can do is be Valve and have no PR.

You have to make games to care about your PR with gamers.

They made half life 2 like 30 years ago

Cool maybe we wont get garbage tier writing now. Not like woke feminists cant write a half decent story just like at the Harry Potter books.

Was harry potter woke? Most of the representation comes from word of God (such as every LGBT character) and S.P.E.W mocks activist

im saying the author was a woke feminist you goof, gay dumbledore makes perfect sense though guy was far too fabulous.

Rowling only became a woke feminist after she finished the Harry Potter series. Had to stay relevant somehow.

TBH Harry Potter should have carried a 1911.

Custom AK-47 vs Incendio

It was woke enough for its time, and JKR has ridden the social justice wave well to make it even woker retroactively.

literally who drama

😴😴😴

I know it's not Trump did dumb thing, Ed. But it's pretty good shit.

guildwars

uh, no thanks

Being a snob about where drama comes from.

You're the big gay.

having no standards for drama

t. brainlet

the last time we had a thread about this I had to explain to a bunch of /r/drama immigrant gamers why all the writing in RPGs was shit-tier

dont make me do it again

no do it

Copypasta that shit

Just a friendly reminder that she was fired from Paizo for similar unprofessionalism last year!

Paizo fired her for being unprofessional? JFC. I'm a huge Pathfinder fanboi, but those folks aren't exactly winning awards for professional conduct and corporate blandness.

Unprofessional and attacking customers like she did at ArenaNet.

I'm not unprofessional tells woman bad mouthing former employer on twitter.

ArenaNet needs to fire their HR stuff.

Also amusing the resident mod who constantly whines about modding is using the opportunity to [whine about the community and modding.](https://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/8wexqv/with_anets_recent_decision_im_making_my_break/)

Some users point out he [doesn't actually mod jack shit or interact with the community](https://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/8wexqv/with_anets_recent_decision_im_making_my_break/e1uyt4b) and posts an [unhealthy amount to /r/politics](https://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/8wexqv/with_anets_recent_decision_im_making_my_break/e1uypyj)

One of the whiny bitchboi mods who never does any actual moderation has taken this opportunity to White about the community and all their problems.

with_anets_recent_decision_im_making_my_break

Even better. The white knight who defended her got fired, too.

source?

Seeing that these are the people playing GW2, I am uninstalling the game pronto.

Enjoy your shitty, anti-feminist safe space, ass-hats.

Good luck to the future PR of ArenaNet now being associated with an anti-feminist client base.

/u/Angel-Kat, what's it like to be so afraid of a fake narrative that it makes you stop playing a game you claim to enjoy?

You seem upset. I hope you feel better soon.

Christ this is the laziest response.

The ol "ackshully you're the upset one tee hee" opener that literally every pinged lolcow ever starts with.

It's so consistent I'm going to start pointing it out now until it gets its own bot

Good luck on your future endeavors on that front.

Lol

Good luck getting your parents to love you

you seem upset

LOL, you just rage quit GW2 because they fired someone for being an idiot and someone else for being a white knight (which generally means "male feminist," which generally translates to "sex offender") while crying about feminism and /u/NotAClintonEmployee seems upset?

Bitch, is you high?

I uninstalled GW2 for political reasons which is completely awesome and the opposite of rage quitting.

Not only is it still rage-quitting, it's rage-quitting for one of the most retarded reasons conceivable. This is like giving up ice cream because Le Drumpf had two scoops.

You don't have to like that I uninstalled a game, I would encourage people not to the r-word like that.

I would encourage people not to the r-word like that.

rage-quit?

Haha, nope. If you're joking, that's a good one.

No, the umm... r-word. The word between "most" and "reasons" in the post, and starts with "ret..." It's an outdated medical term referring to people with cognitive disabilities.

outdated

Wait, are retarded people not call retarded anymore?

My friend in Mississippi literally works at a place called a "home for the retarded"

That's a pretty terrible name tbh. How do they even market themselves?

Do you think they need to market themselves?

I guess not considering how interested and invested I am in them now just from their name.

no they don't.

They doooooo.

There is a whole statewide program in texas called mhmr too.

The r stands for retardation. The south is a bit behind the times with the preferred nomenclature

that doesn't mean what you originally said was true. there is not a place called home for the retarded.

there is though....

source? a quick google search shows that place doesn't exist. literally all businesses are on there.

I get what happened now...

My friend is moving from Mississippi to Louisiana, where there are a few places named that.

Sorry to be all shitty about it.

that's alright. hope you have a good day mate.

That's all of Mississippi.

Google the Euphemism treadmill.

I think they're called 'Americans of Retardation' now.

You mean the word that perfectly describes you?

/u/Angel-Kat BTFO

So we shouldn't use that word anymore? What do we do when the new word to describe retards becomes a commonplace insult for those acting in a less than reasonable manner? And then the word after that. Maybe instead of being upset that a word is being used to insult someone's actions we should be spending time educating and talking to people about how those actions don't benefit society.

Or, just shitpost and demand bussy, IDK.

How dare you say retard is outdated. There are many proud regards in r/drama and what you've said is basically spitting in our faces

You don't have to like that I uninstalled a game

I don't care that you uninstalled the game. My objection is you saying someone else "seems upset," as if they're the ones acting irrationally when you got all teary-eyed and started to pout before depriving yourself of something you liked to spite the mean ol' boogeyman Patriarchy™. You're like some sort of Portlandia satire character.

Well, I can assure you, I did not get "teary-eyed," and I am quite rational.

I'm sorry if my language was confusing. These are reddit comments after all, so specificity is not a priority.

I am quite rational.

Uninstalling a game over identity politics would indicate otherwise.

To be fair, uninstalling gw2 for any reason is a good idea

Yeah, it's not a great game tbh. I played it for a bit and was underwhelmed.

Retard Retard Retard Retard Retard Retard Retard Retard Retard Retard Retard Retard Retard Retard Retard Retard Retard Retard

People who protest against the word retarded are retarded.

Lol you played GW2 in the first place. 🤣🤣🤣🤣

I uninstalled GW2 for political reasons

When you find yourself unironically saying you uninstalled a video game for political reasons it's time to take a step back and realize what an absurdly privileged life you live.

Can you be more specific? What should I take a step back from? What priorities should I have?

Can you be more specific? What should I take a step back from?

The mindset that lead you to believe not playing computer games is a political act

What priorities should I have?

Actual political issues. Basically anything people who aren't privileged bourgeois white women care about.

Actual political issues. Basically anything people who aren't privileged bourgeois white women care about.

Well, I think feminism and the fair treatment of employees are worthwhile causes. So I guess we'll have to agree to disagree.

What's unfair or anti-feminist about a company firing an employee who insulted a content partner and happily admitted that she doesn't have to 'pretend to like' the consumers of her employer's product?

Ignoring the overwhelming amount of anti-sjw talk and complaints of misandry that I witnessed in the guild wars 2 subreddit which raises huge red flags, employees need to feel safe speaking out against perceived discrimination or mistreatment by both the company and consumers.

If she had treated any of the constructive criticism she received with an ounce of professionalism or empathy she wouldn't be in this mess in the first place.

She alternatively could have ignored it completely.

employees need to feel safe speaking out against perceived discrimination or mistreatment by both the company and consumers without fear of losing their jobs.

Is that what she was doing? Because it looked like she started attacking someone who made a perfectly polite comment which happened to disagree with her.

Yeah, there were two people who got fired. The woman did use some profanity because she thought the person on Twitter was mansplaining. The man who was fired basically said that he doesn't get mansplained to--all while being polite.

How does it feel like to rationalize obvious shitty behavior to the point you become delusional because a person on your team does it? Lol.

So her firing seems 100% legitimate at least. She started using profanity against a customer because of her bizarre interpretation of events.

And the man got fired for supporting a person who attacks the company's customers, based on her own delusional version of what actually happened.

Yep, really can't see a problem here.

The woman did use some profanity because she thought the person on Twitter was mansplaining.

And that attitude is what got her fired, not sexism. She came off arrogant and rude at a person who was just engaging in a discussion, if "don't mansplain to me" is your default reaction to fans, then you should not be talking publicly for the company.

Mansplaining isn't a thing. Stop ovaryacting.

Womyn makes long post about how the RPG genre is hard to write for

ArenaNet Partner (content creator) says he agrees with her but doesn't feel like it has much to do with RPGs

Womyn spergs out about how she didn't ask for his opinion and he should stop mansplaining NOW

Womyn starts directly insulting him

An unironic whiteknight developer shows up and starts twitter-debating people about how she's acshually right

ArenaNet shits on them for doing this

 

Freeze peach doesn't exist on a private level, sweaty. Attacking a customer, especially a content creator (ArenaNet Partner) is a no-no.

If the creator was actually being a real dick I'm sure things would've played out differently. But the man was polite and the womyn shat on him for no reason. Play shit games win shit prizes.

Wait, you're upset about people using retard, but perfectly fine with mansplaining?

Fucking white feminists. Not sure if it counts as hypocrisy if you're straight up retarded.

what if they're just dumb extremists going off over nothing and causing brand damage.

Your point would make sense if it wasn't the developer who incited the argument by playing victim when an Anet partner simply put forth a new idea to the issue she proposed. You act like people came out immediately saying her opinion didnt matter because of her race or gender. J. Price was the first to play the "female game dev" card, and people found it funny/ridiculous so they started ridiculing it in the comments. This isnt a case of people bullying someone by being sexist or discriminatory, it's people not liking when a developer for a game they like are assholes to people who put good work into content they dont get paid for like Deroir.

Well, I think feminism and the fair treatment of employees are worthwhile causes.

Well that's the issue isn't it? You like far too many consider feminism = the banal non-problems of privileged upper class white women

Because I uninstalled a piece of software?

Okay, I’ll reinstall it, stat! Down with the upper class white women!

Yeah clearly that's what I'm saying. Don't be obtuse.

Down with the upper class white women!

This but unironically. Feminism has catered to bourgeois white women and their issues since the beginning and has put the issues facing working class and minority women at a distant 2nd. If at all. Which is the same reason it, along with liberalism in general, so steadfastly ignores or actively silences discussions of class and anti-capitalism

If you can't see how thinking it's a political act to stop playing a video game, because some upper middle class affluent white woman got fired from her cushy job for dumb shit she said on twitter is emblamatic of how feminism puts the petty non-issues of privileged white women before the issues that often threaten the very survival of poor and minority women, well it's because you're choosing not to.

Thanks for telling me what I should and shouldn’t care about because obviously I can’t disagree with a company’s decision when lack of resources and capitalistic exploitation are literally killing underprivileged women and minorities.

Thanks for telling me what I should and shouldn’t care about

No problem

because obviously I can’t disagree with a company’s decision when lack of resources and capitalistic exploitation are literally killing underprivileged women and minorities.

Honestly your flippant attitude is kinda proving my point. Rather than acknowledge or even engage with the criticism of the bourgeois nature of mainstream feminism as it has existed in the US you just hand wave it away.

This has been an issue literally since The Feminine Mystique was published and the reason it matters is that women's issues in this country only get acknowledged or addressed when they're endorsed and pushed by upper class white liberal women.

It's why the issues of female liberation had been pushed by radical leftists in America since the mid-19th century but only when rich white women signed on did they gain any traction. Why nobody even used the word feminism in mainstream political discussions when activists were primarily talking about women in sweatshops and marital rape and domestic violence, the way in which oppression of the working class prevented women from getting even basic educations, but the second an affluent white woman wrote a book about how affluent white women (from rich enough families that they could be sent to college) were bored as housewives suddenly it's a national issue.

About how feminists today spend so much time worried about breaking the glass ceiling while not giving a shit about the women stuck in the basement

About how so many thousands of people spend time on ghazi complaining about narcissistic nonsense like this that only affects affluent white women as though they're real issues, when we're probably going to see Roe v. Wade overturned in our lifetime.

So the point, the reason your flippant attitude matters, is that anyone, but especially middle class white women, who claim to give a shit about issues of inequality has a responsibility to focus their rhetoric and energy on the issues that don't get focused on precisely because people like you would rather complain that this lady got fired from her cushy job as a video game writer. That whole sub is dedicated to the petty squabbles of privileged white women in the video game industry.

And yeah people can decide what they care about on their own blah blah blah but don't pretend it's not worthy of criticism. People on this bored who focus on dumb bullshit at least have the good grace to not pretend they care about political and societal ills.

Okay.

How disappointingly predictable

Okay.

I uninstalled GW2 for political reasons

How can you look yourself in the eye in the mirror every morning knowing how petty and ineffectual you are?

I don't know what you're talking about because I'm awesome.

The self-obsessed rarely think otherwise

The only difference between you and a misogynist are the genitalia

no u

Yeah, he's livid.

😏😏😏

Stop downvoting guests you absolute ignorant tourists.

Great, let the hate flow through you.

mods should be able to see who downvotes and ban appropriately tbh

tourists

You wish. These people are immigrants.

/r/all isnt sending their best

FUCK YOU FEMINIST DOUCHE

👀

douching is a symbol of the patriachy you fucking pigdog.

Nice projection there, cunt.

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Yeah. Be nicer, cunt.

Did HuffPost hire you already? How much are you going to demand per lecture about anti-women attitude in gaming?

I’m employed to give feminist lectures to the public at no cost. Usually to high schools and colleges. Gaming is rarely brought up.

You need to apologize to that user for insulting him.

What I NEED is a freaking oscilloscope. I have an entire room of my house turned into an electronics lab, and I STILL don't have a good oscilloscope. Damn!

Why is it a problem? I refuse to believe you can't find one online.

They can get a little pricey. For example, this one which also decodes digital logic costs $13,000 dollars. There are some cheaper oscilloscopes like this one between $350 to $500, but I worry the lower sampling rate will make debugging high frequency electronics difficult. Also, I really would like an oscilloscope that can decode digital logic.

There are used oscilloscopes on e-bay that use cathode ray tubes, but they are bulky and space is a consideration in the room where I setup my lab.

Game is full of lesbian relationships, lgbt and female empowerment done in a non carcitured way.

Terrible anti feminist safe space tbh.

lesbian relationships

Lesbians are heavily fetishised by straight guys so that's not necessarily a point in their favour.

only if they’re hot and rightly so

>We can't include diversity because it'll be fetishized

Nice damned if you do argument there.

Regardless of the potential for that, I'd say the characters that are lesbians are pretty tasteful and had some of the best storytelling in the game. In fact most of the women in the game have better character arcs than the male characters which are essentially just "Oh man I'm mad" or "Look how much sass I have" or "Wow, I'm a really fucking annoying tree."

>We can't include diversity because it'll be fetishized

Hard for straight guys to fetishise gay male relationships. And that's why they are so rare in games.

Hard for straight guys to fetishise gay male relationships. And that's why they are so rare in games.

True, they get fetishized by woman though, see "fujoshi". So straight man fetishize gay woman, straight woman fetishize gay man. Funny, ain't it?

The ratio of lesbian to gay fetishisation is way off though.

In the west, maybe. In Japan? Oh boy. Also not the point. Straight men don't fetishize gay men (most of the time), but women do. Different stroke for different folks and everything will be fetishized, one way or another. I don't see how this takes away from including actual gay relationships in a MMORPG just because they were not male. But ey, maybe some gay men will tumble around next time so you are satisfied as well

As one person said... "Two things I like, together!"

/u/Angel-Kat

I played the original Guild Wars, but passed on 2.

Guess who is now installing Guild Wars 2?

i just like that they still havent figured out what safe space means, they think its a generic insult

/u/DubiousMerchantReality as much as I hate anyone getting fired over twitter bullshit, why is it that everytime a women does something morally wrong someone invokes the past and present unfair treatment of women to justify her behaviour?

Equality wont be achieved by holding women to a lesser standard. He wasnt being an asshole and what she did wasnt that bad either, but she should have apologized and not doubled down like she did. There was no sexism involved in his part either

Stuff like this is why I hate twitter

Well said. And in Jessica's defense I think it's also important to remember gaslighting is one of the fav tactics of the GG crowd trying to antagonize someone. "All we did was sit in the front row!" "All I did was try and have a reasonable discussion" "Why are you so angry?"

always with the fucking gas lighting. Jesus. I can't stand this word anymore

Ah, yes! Jessica Price. Goobergate and Co. already had her in their crosshairs for a long time, because she is an outspoken feminist.

I am not surprised that some people try as hard as they can to make her a bigger target than she has been thus far.

yeah it's not because she is a fucking cunt.

Imagine losing your job because you can't keep your mouth shut and you see le sexism everywhere. She was really owned by gaberboogle this time

They are gas lighting, gas lighting to mean whatever they want?

blocked for using that word

always with the fucking gas lighting

Oh, if it's not "gas lighting" then it's "false equivalence" or some other stupid buzzword that does't actually mean what they think it means.

always with the fucking gas lighting. Jesus. I can't stand this word anymore

As far as I can tell, it now means "disagreeing with a woman."

do these people not like understand that it's not gaslightning if the twitter thread is right there?

get with the times dude, we rewriting history now, fuck facts

this isn't even rewriting history, this is on the level of bugfuck stupid repubs pretending that the party switch never happened.

like, hello, guys? people who engineered it are right there! you can ask them

My mom who was abused by my dad was subjected to gaslighting. Berated for so many years any time that she stood up for herself that she became convinced she was irrational for getting upset anytime my dad screamed at her. That she was the fucked up one for being hurt. She literally questioned her sanity.

People who throw the word around so casually really piss me off. Privileged people with easy lives who devalue a word repressing an actual tool of abuse so that they can shut down anyone who disagrees with them over stupid fucking bullshit about how hard their upper middle class white suburb lives getting paid to bitch about video games are.

Ikr. When I learned about the meaning of the word, it was always used in situations like this. A horrible parent fucking up the life of the child, some absolute madness of a marriage, etc. But today it's just "oh this person lied about something. It obviously is a gaslight tactic". Honestly, what are we doing here

I'm sorry to hear that - it sounds like you had a really rough childhood. (I totally know what that's like.) But don't worry - I strongly feel like a backlash for these kinds of self-centered narcissists is coming, and it's going to be harsh.

My mother was, and is, a great parent. The only thing rough about my childhood was having to watching someone who deserves to much being treated so terribly. And feeling responsible because if my brothers and I didn't exist she wouldn't have been stuck with him

Sorry, I meant the narcissists like Jessica Price, who act like they have it so much harder than you.

No I understood, I just wanted to make it clear I don't think I had it hard. I don't want people to feel sorry for me, there are people out there who need sympathy far morw

I never even heard of Jessica Price until the other day. But they can be delusional.

"All we did was sit in the front row!"

What's this from?

Anita Sarkeesian calling Sagon of Akkad a trash human being for sitting in the front row of a panel she was on.

LOL, what?

GARBAGE HUMAN

imagine actually being intimidated by a marshmallow like Sargon.

lol gaslighting

*takes a shit on the floor*

“wtf why did you just shit on the floor?”

“DONT YOU GASLIGHT ME”

Better not it might explode if enough methane seeped out of you.

I've never been to this sub before one of you dragged my comment over here so you could all circle jerk each other without bothering to look at the context of the thread or the original comment I was replying to. But I suppose I'll take the bait and clarify: I was pointing out that gaslighting is commonly used to antagonize people (especially women) online. People who are sick of hearing this "buzzword" ought to be tired of people doing it...but I digress.

I do not believe this particular instance with Jessica Price was gaslighting. However, if Jessica Price has been subject to this sort of harassment before I can understand how she might jump to the conclusion she was being "mansplained." I do not know if she's regularly harassed (if not then she is just a rude person).
Frankly this whole issue is nothing but ridiculous people on both sides getting butthurt over some silly shit. You have a woman being unnecessarily rude to someone who was probably just trying to start a conversation with her whom she could have just ignored. Yet at the same time you have a bunch of whiny men on the other side who are triggered because they think are owed polite civil discussion with a stranger.
Both sides of this have some growing up to do.

in Jessica's defense I think it's also important to remember gaslighting is one of the fav tactics of the GG crowd trying to antagonize someone

I was pointing out that gaslighting is commonly used to antagonize people

I do not know if she's regularly harassed

I do not believe this particular instance with Jessica Price was gaslighting.

i smell gas

Telling you retards that you're wrong and dumb isn't gaslighting. Just stop using phrases you read about on jezebel.

And you dont' get to wave your corporate lady dick around by plastering your twitter profile with the company name and then call people associated with your company 'rando asshats' in public without repercussions, that is the limit of having tits, sorry.

triggered because they think are owed polite civil discussion with a stranger.

Wait, is Jessica owed polite civil discussion from the rest of Twitter?

No she isn't. And no one who contacts her is owed a polite discussion either. That's how life works.

meta-gaslighting

She’s not a feminist. She used to fat shame the woman that was our VP of marketing. Also she treated the other women she worked with just as badly as the men.

Who da fuq is Jessica Price, what da fuq is ArenaNet, and why the hell should I care?

Ghazi 2: Electric Boogaloo

Get woke, go broke lol

A Victory for Goobergabers!

The real irony here is ghazi crying about freeze peaches

https://twitter.com/Delafina777/status/1014599961734856704

ah yes, the poor marginalized female, nobody ever considers them, talks about them, gives them anything, hell, no man never protected or provided for no wimmins evars!

so marginalized i could cry.

Holy shit the dude lost his job because he white knighted an idiot. That’s next level shit right there.

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u/JessicaLPrice777 how is unemployed life treating you so far?

/r/drama thread about the initial incident

Still don’t get it. Quick rundown?

As soon as I started seeing the logo being all rainbow, I knew this game was going to shit and bringing in SJW's and behold, we get a Dev. Thank God she was fired, go take your bullshit ego somewhere else.

Im fucking surprised that people are really this dumb when it comes to social media. A lot of fellow liberal types take this real fucking stupid stance of "this is how I think social media should be" and get fucking upset when the world chimes in on them posting on the equivalent of a public digital signpost that you see on the highway. The whole "if your talking with someone in a diner, you're not inviting everyone to converse" is such a fucking strawman argument. Twitter is literally a platform to broadcast your thoughts to everyone or the people you select. If you're going to be a public person, you need to know what the platforms you are on do and how to act on them for what you want. She would have a job if she said something innocuous like "Agree to disagree" and went off about him in her DM's, away from the 10k followers she totes around.

And while I'm on that topic, anyone who tries to compare harassment and says "I don't get that level of harassment and I'm a male developer" but only has 150 followers isn't anyone who will get harassed because no one fucking knows them. Throw two more 0's at the end of that and see what the tweets look like when you are an acting and proud outward face representing your employer.

And on that note, I understand wanting to go around and be all "I work at <studio>" to show how much of the shit you are, but the fact that people don't understand that adding in "my tweets are my own" doesn't negate the fact that your title and employer is in your fucking bio blows my mind. The moment you identify who you work for, you now represent them. Period. You are now a source to be poked and prodded at for that employer and the more of a following you want to get to fill those dopamine rushes, the more poking and prodding you are going to get.

The internet has been around long enough, stop making excuses for people who use the shit badly. Jessica Price insulted and berated someone who was more than happy to try and dialog with someone and thought they had an idea that could help the game. There was nothing that he did wrong. And it's a fucking shame that people are this daft when it comes to how social media works in current year.

Agree with everything here. To top it off, I’m dumbfounded how that person’s polite and constructive criticism was taken so poorly.

That's the one thing I can understand. We look at it as one person saying one thing. We don't see the same thing being said from multiple people over a period of time (or similar things). Frustrations are more understandable if you think that a lot of information you get is prolly similar to a topic as 20 to 100 to however many other people saying it.

But going off the deep end instead of walking away? Fuck out of here.

I mean, yeah, the average person is prone to not seeing individual comments past general impressions, but when you’re in a public position it’s expected of you to actually read before responding, so I hold her to a higher standard than some rando.

Agreed. The moment you put your employer, cause, anything that identifies you with a group, you are representing them. You can't have a private public Twitter account. Your words do represent who your employer hires and your actions reflect on them. How people don't get this blows my mind.

Whenever I see someone who lists the company they work for and some meaningless bit like "...my words and opinions do not represent that of my employer..." or something of the sort, I just roll my eyes at how foolish and ignorant that is.

good, fuck that cunt.

God, I wish she becomes a martyr for feminist devs today. I can't wait for the bug-makers and soyboys to rally behind her and demand her re-hiring and the other guy fired/banned

But why tho?

Also, reminder: don't downvote the lolcow.

The drama

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The kindest thing I can say is "I'm glad she's no longer around to keep doing harm."

now if people could stop harassing Peter Fries that'd be nice

dude worked there for 13 years and got dragged down by a little brat that only worked there for one, i'm sure he's hit far harder by this than she is, leave the dude alone

I find her sadly relateable and though in this case I see a knee-jerk reaction, I can almost see how a lot of women in tech could fall into this trap.

A study on employer annual reviews in tech companies revealed that women are disproportionately given sharper criticism about being too “overbearing”, “reel it in a bit”, “pipe down”. 82% of female participant reviews included feedback like this. There’s also replicated research demonstrating that men interrupt women in tech 33% more than male counterparts. Women interrupt (which is rarer) but only other women.

I can imagine after a while working in this field grinds down on your sanity as a woman, and knowing unconscious bias is everywhere, you start to see it where it is not sometimes.

It’s unfortunate because I liked what she was doing at a previous company with researching toxic work culture and advocating for speakers to host seminars on how to improve. You get (understandably) angry after a while though and anger makes you do and say stupid shit. I hope this is a learning experience for her, that sadly the amount of emotional regulation she has to muster as a woman pointing out unconscious bias has to be almost “synthetic human” level while also maintains the regular levels of emotional control for being a functional everyday human. I learnt this at about 24. If you let all of that stress and hurt build up in you, you can lash out at a non-offending, well meaning person and lose credibility in an instant, despite years invested into research and advocacy.

Gotta love how these brain dead morons downvote anything they even remotely disagree with, essentially forming one of the "safe-spaces" that they love to bitch about so much. It's almost as if they act on their feelings but they're too insecure to admit it.

fresh pasta!

who want's some fresh pasta?

https://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/8wmlgi/reminder_to_not_harass_the_devs_please/e1wxum8/

is there a subreddit for linking to internet tough guy speeches? This fits the bill perfectly.

Marvel comics needs to do the same with their writers and artists. Same with the director of the up coming Animated Spider-man film who got into a screaming match with fans.

I'm so glad I quit this game years ago, it was going downhill

Damaged has been done:

So much for an open discussion I guess. I meant no disrespect AT ALL. Never did. Never will. Neither did I imply I knew better. Nor has this ANYTHING to do with gender. Never did. Never will. I will retract my comment, cause obviously I'm in the wrong forum for this kind of talk.

/u/groff77

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