I'm used to their regular noise but it was so bad when England was playing. Silence never sounded as sweet as it did when Croatia scored their two goals.
One of my coworkers has croat ancestry and has been rootong for them the whole tournament. Since day 1 basically everyone has been making fun of her for it. How the hell did this happen
There is a big difference between recognizing reality and liking it.
This is the way politics works, in particular for the left. Liberalism/progressivism/leftism what ever you want to call it is at it's core anti-authoritarian, it's about distributed power. Bottom up democracy.
The answer to the Right isn't to emulate them, liberals don't think the same way, they don't fall in line the same way, We're stubborn, cantankerous and suspicious of arguments from "authority" so you can't motivate the left the same way that the Right is motivated.
Yeah it would be great if you got a complete crop of lefty candidates all on the same page about priorities and policy agendas that all of the diverse interests groups that make up the left agreed on. But you are working in an environment where the Right has spent 4 decades and literally billions if not trillions of dollars building the propaganda and misinformation engines.
Engines that have been so effective that even liberals are ashamed to wear the label.
You can't counter something like that in one election cycle, you can't undo that much programing that quickly. You have to work from the bottom up. Build a coalition, find like minded individuals even if they don't agree on the specifics as long as they recognize the same problems. Form common cause, work on educating your immediate circuit of friends and family.
This poo poo isn't going to get fixed over night, in the mean time we all do what ever we can to slow the regression down, educate ourselves and others and as far as electoral strategy goes, Vote your conscience and ideals in the primary, but vote party in the general. Because a bad Democrats is still better than the best Republican if for no other reason than to deny the regressives control of the legislative agenda.
Cause frankly the problem that has always been the weakness of the left is that we don't do a good job of follow through.
Think about how everyone wants to blame Obama for where we are now, because what he "sold out" or some bullshit. He told us, make him do it. Stay loving engaged and keep pushing him. but what happened in 2010? the loving left stayed home and the Regressives swept the house and put a kibosh on any further actions that Obama could have taken.
What do you think might have happened if the left had got up off collective their asses and voted for in the same numbers they did in 2008? If rather than lose seats in the house and senate they had gained seats ideally more progressive seats. if the failure of the "public option" had motivated more of it's supporters to get out and redouble their efforts to demonstrate support for it, if the electorate had demonstrated approval of the direction things were going rather than getting apathetic because they didn't get exactly what they wanted instantly, like a bunch of whiny children who only got a single scoop of vanilla ice-cream when they wanted a triple scoop of chocolate.
Change requires consistent, pressure and action we didn't get into this mess over night or even over one presidential term and we're not going to fix it overnight or even one presidential term, hell it's going to take decades unfuck this mess, decades of consistent actions. That means that the left needs to have the same staying power and stamina as the Right has demonstrated not the same strategies and tactics.
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1 CocoNutsOn 2018-07-11
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1 serialflamingo 2018-07-11
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1 thereturnofjagger 2018-07-11
πΏπΏπΏ
1 CocoNutsOn 2018-07-11
It is a shame tbh. If I had a heart, it would bleed for them.
1 Mary-Celeste 2018-07-11
CUCKED
1 automatic_chuck 2018-07-11
πππππ
1 Kazruw 2018-07-11
Brexit means Brexit
1 M3mph 2018-07-11
We're up to Brexit *does mean** Brexit means Brexit it does.
1 AnnoysTheGoys 2018-07-11
That was certainly a soft Brexit
1 slaytina44 2018-07-11
1st time I'll ever upvote a serial flaminghomo post :P
1 serialflamingo 2018-07-11
Jealous
1 TheEquimanthorn 2018-07-11
I have super annoying chavvy neighbours so they'll finally shut the fuck up now lol.
Also I made £££ on Croatia to win.
1 froibo 2018-07-11
You made coat racks?
1 a_jill_sandwich 2018-07-11
I have bad news for you.
1 a_jill_sandwich 2018-07-11
I have bad news for you.
1 TheEquimanthorn 2018-07-11
I'm used to their regular noise but it was so bad when England was playing. Silence never sounded as sweet as it did when Croatia scored their two goals.
1 zenicaone 2018-07-11
he did not beat his wife after they lost?
are you sure that they are real chavs?
1 automatic_chuck 2018-07-11
CUCK
1 DistortedLines 2018-07-11
Lol anglets btfo
1 _Suprememe_ 2018-07-11
π΄π΄π΄
1 kippot 2018-07-11
It's the world cup, it's different than your "world series"
I know it's rough when you can't even manage to qualify for the championship though π
1 _Suprememe_ 2018-07-11
Itβs called the World Series because all the relevant parts of the world compete to make it in.
1 kippot 2018-07-11
How does it make you feel that usa didn't even qualify?
1 _Suprememe_ 2018-07-11
qualify for what?
1 kippot 2018-07-11
Read the thread again
1 NormanImmanuel 2018-07-11
>It's coming home
1 Mary-Celeste 2018-07-11
The team is ππ€£
1 icefourthirtythree 2018-07-11
Excuse me, we still have to play the 3rd place game.
1 modsarethebest 2018-07-11
Hrvatska FTW
1 Mao_Zedong_Thot 2018-07-11
Now Brits can stop dreaming about soccer and start building a great nation in real life.
1 a_jill_sandwich 2018-07-11
Too busy flying Donald Trump balloons, mate.
1 automatic_chuck 2018-07-11
The 19th century already gone buddy.
1 voicelesshoodwinker 2018-07-11
They're coming home lads.
1 Zachums 2018-07-11
oh shit, they def deserved the win for making that puppy
1 thrillhouze- 2018-07-11
Wow. More Croatian sheepdog pictures please.
1 voicelesshoodwinker 2018-07-11
http://www.dogwallpapers.net/wallpapers/istrian-shorthaired-hound-puppies-photo.jpg
Istrian Coarse-haired Hound puppies
Also croatian.
1 voicelesshoodwinker 2018-07-11
Istrian Coarse-haired Hound puppies
Also croatian, now HD for wallpaper purposes.
http://www.dogwallpapers.net/wallpapers/istrian-shorthaired-hound-puppies-photo.jpg
1 thrillhouze- 2018-07-11
Such lovely babies. I like the one in the corner eating the otherβs face. Adorable face chewing > all other face chewing.
1 DalstonKingsland 2018-07-11
Istria belongs to Italy
1 le_epic_xd 2018-07-11
Esatto
1 saddertadder 2018-07-11
England v france would be so tasty... oh well
1 M3mph 2018-07-11
A bitter loss for the meme economy.
1 icefourthirtythree 2018-07-11
Oh no it wouldnβt, and I say that as an England fan. We just donβt have the midfield to compete with France.
1 saddertadder 2018-07-11
Modric is my only hope!!!
1 Boring_normie 2018-07-11
Dier should have started
1 icefourthirtythree 2018-07-11
Died wouldβve been even worse. Throughout the tornument weβve lacked creativity and Dier canβt provide that.
1 Boring_normie 2018-07-11
Lingard and Alli can provide that.
1 icefourthirtythree 2018-07-11
Evidently not.
1 zenicaone 2018-07-11
dirty ugly uncivilized Balkan Slavs beating uppity French will be way more funny
1 dogDroolsCatsRules 2018-07-11
Which make this great is that either we win the cup or r/france burn and I get my monthly dose of drama in one day.
1 LIT_LIT_LIT_LIT_LIT 2018-07-11
Croatia First!
1 VALIS666 2018-07-11
At least they still have their sunny weather, famous cuisine, and beautiful women.
1 PoorLilMarco 2018-07-11
Ahahahhahahhahaha git tae fuck
1 XakeMarte 2018-07-11
France is going to win tho
1 PoorLilMarco 2018-07-11
Yeah probably. My bet is 1-1 then France winning on penalties.
1 XakeMarte 2018-07-11
It's been enough already
1 serialflamingo 2018-07-11
I had exactly the opposite prediction with France beating England on penalties.
1 newcomer_ts 2018-07-11
My prediction after the 1st half...
1 Matthew94 2018-07-11
What are you, a dirty scot or a dirty irish?
1 serialflamingo 2018-07-11
This is a Scottish thread.
1 jaja10 2018-07-11
πΆOh flower of Scotland, when will we see, your like againπΆ
1 Matthew94 2018-07-11
So we'll all shoot heroin and lament over the loss of good Irn Bru then.
1 tfdidido 2018-07-11
NOT COMING HOME NOT COMING HOME π·π·πΊ
1 mcslibbin 2018-07-11
Britannia rules the waves
1 automatic_chuck 2018-07-11
ruled
1 ShizukaHiratsuka 2018-07-11
I kind of wanted to watch an English vs. France tbh
1 O-shi 2018-07-11
They dropped the ball
1 Sarge_Ward 2018-07-11
One of my coworkers has croat ancestry and has been rootong for them the whole tournament. Since day 1 basically everyone has been making fun of her for it. How the hell did this happen
1 serialflamingo 2018-07-11
Aww I hope they win even more now.
1 GreatnessPersonified 2018-07-11
I don't want to be shallow, superficial or immature...but is she hot?
1 TheEquimanthorn 2018-07-11
Judging by the fan shots of Croatia in this world cup, yes she probably is.
1 CirqueDuFuder 2018-07-11
What cunts.
1 moudougou 2018-07-11
england fair play
1 Mao_Zedong_Thot 2018-07-11
There is a big difference between recognizing reality and liking it.
This is the way politics works, in particular for the left. Liberalism/progressivism/leftism what ever you want to call it is at it's core anti-authoritarian, it's about distributed power. Bottom up democracy.
The answer to the Right isn't to emulate them, liberals don't think the same way, they don't fall in line the same way, We're stubborn, cantankerous and suspicious of arguments from "authority" so you can't motivate the left the same way that the Right is motivated.
Yeah it would be great if you got a complete crop of lefty candidates all on the same page about priorities and policy agendas that all of the diverse interests groups that make up the left agreed on. But you are working in an environment where the Right has spent 4 decades and literally billions if not trillions of dollars building the propaganda and misinformation engines.
Engines that have been so effective that even liberals are ashamed to wear the label.
You can't counter something like that in one election cycle, you can't undo that much programing that quickly. You have to work from the bottom up. Build a coalition, find like minded individuals even if they don't agree on the specifics as long as they recognize the same problems. Form common cause, work on educating your immediate circuit of friends and family.
This poo poo isn't going to get fixed over night, in the mean time we all do what ever we can to slow the regression down, educate ourselves and others and as far as electoral strategy goes, Vote your conscience and ideals in the primary, but vote party in the general. Because a bad Democrats is still better than the best Republican if for no other reason than to deny the regressives control of the legislative agenda.
Cause frankly the problem that has always been the weakness of the left is that we don't do a good job of follow through.
Think about how everyone wants to blame Obama for where we are now, because what he "sold out" or some bullshit. He told us, make him do it. Stay loving engaged and keep pushing him. but what happened in 2010? the loving left stayed home and the Regressives swept the house and put a kibosh on any further actions that Obama could have taken.
What do you think might have happened if the left had got up off collective their asses and voted for in the same numbers they did in 2008? If rather than lose seats in the house and senate they had gained seats ideally more progressive seats. if the failure of the "public option" had motivated more of it's supporters to get out and redouble their efforts to demonstrate support for it, if the electorate had demonstrated approval of the direction things were going rather than getting apathetic because they didn't get exactly what they wanted instantly, like a bunch of whiny children who only got a single scoop of vanilla ice-cream when they wanted a triple scoop of chocolate.
Change requires consistent, pressure and action we didn't get into this mess over night or even over one presidential term and we're not going to fix it overnight or even one presidential term, hell it's going to take decades unfuck this mess, decades of consistent actions. That means that the left needs to have the same staying power and stamina as the Right has demonstrated not the same strategies and tactics.
1 Deity_Of_War 2018-07-11
How is this even relevant to the World Cup? Fuck off.
1 CordialCalamity 2018-07-11
wat
1 Just_us_trees_here 2018-07-11
I ain't reading all that shit
1 Matthew94 2018-07-11
CROATIA: HOW MANY GOALS ARE YOU ON RIGHT NOW?
ENGLAND: LIKE, MAYBE, ONE, DUDE
CROATIA: YOU ARE LIKE A LITTLE BABY, WATCH THIS
CROATIA: TWO
1 saddertadder 2018-07-11
Meme posting in text on drama is fucking sickening.
Start your car in your garage and take a nap
1 Matthew94 2018-07-11
π ±ANK
1 westofthetracks 2018-07-11
i dont care about sports but i am a big fan of bad things happening to england, so i can still get behind this post
1 serialflamingo 2018-07-11
Same, and I'm the one who made the post.
1 icefourthirtythree 2018-07-11
Cries in English
1 Kat_B0T 2018-07-11
π€’
1 its_2am 2018-07-11
/u/sky-daddy
1 aqouta 2018-07-11
If you listen closely you can hear americans trying to figure out where croatia is.
1 cochnbahls 2018-07-11
Every 90s American knows that Croatia got BTFO by the Serbs.
1 preserved_fish 2018-07-11
Um, Croatia basically achieved their goals. You may be thinking of Bosnia.
1 EddingtonDidNothingW 2018-07-11
i have never won a bet in my life
pretty sure im cursed or something
so yesterday i bet on england winning the game hoping that the curse would ensure croatias victory, and it worked
100 euros well spent
1 Haslinhezl 2018-07-11
im more flattered that you all seem to be so invested in how we perform ur all welcome
1 serialflamingo 2018-07-11
Shut the fuck up.
1 Haslinhezl 2018-07-11
how could u
1 CordialCalamity 2018-07-11
Go home
1 reallyrunningnow 2018-07-11
Scotts mainly care that England loses.
1 kxxzy 2018-07-11
I don't think Scotland even competes to lose anything
1 jaja10 2018-07-11
i dont think we even qualified
1 CordialCalamity 2018-07-11
It made me smile when that player got hurt and they had to play with ten for the rest of the game.
1 serialflamingo 2018-07-11
Football players should get the same treatment as horses in the Grand National tbh. You'd see a lot less "injuries".
1 CordialCalamity 2018-07-11
Not a bad idea. Iβd be on board as long as I get to watch.
1 Unkill_is_dill 2018-07-11
Anything that triggers BritBongs is fine by me.
1 Hans_Micheal 2018-07-11
Shut up catholic Serbs.
1 htmlcoderexe 2018-07-11
Can you not with the sportsball shit you fucking normie