I'm not even sure what your point is. Yeah I'd rather sleep with a dakimakura of my waifu Renge-chan than with some random 3D slut but that doesn't mean I'm desperate, it's the opposite, it implies that I have standards.
Fascists tend to seek alliance with mainstream conservatives in order to obtain power, and in fact, both successful fascist movements (Italy and Germany) were levered into power by conservatives.
The Trump base is a proto-fascist movement. So how are you any different?
Trump is just a republican with no filter. His immigration policies are no different from those of Billyboy in the 90's, and ICE was just as bad as it is now as it was under Obama.
The far right that rose in the wake of Trump is only because of the media's own attention to Trump, and how they have desensitized people to all the things that they have accused Trump of.
well it has to do with your lack of positive rolemodels, autism, NEET life, incel, bitterness, stupidity, lack of education, general retardation and finally, horrible insecurity
The far right that rose in the wake of Trump is only because of the media's own attention to Trump
It's also a reactionary response to extremism coming from the left (ie: Antifa). Want to empower Nazis? The easiest way to do that is to promote and provoke violent radical leftists. How do we know this? Because that's exactly what happened in Weimar Germany.
Fuck off fag. You didn't even hear about antifa until Trump became the president. If you are anti a group that's anti fascists... What's that make you?
Lol, so much for radical centrism. If you subscribe to a political ideology, you're a pawn and a goober. No political system is going to actually advocate for you beyond making sure you don't grab enough angry people and throw them out of power.
Totally agreed. Which is why we need to bash plebs that are propping up and obviously compromised administration.. Only idealogy I subscribe to is I don't like stupid people. The right just happens to be full of them and in power. Blame Jesus.
Meh. Half the people still voting gop are legit lite fascists lol. Antifa gaining notoriety is just so the right can pretend having antifa "on your side" is as bad as all the klansmen the Gop counts as the base. Lol
Kids in jail are allowed to communciate with parents. The Trump admin ahs also failed to keep detailed records of seperated kids and parents, thus making reuniting them difficult.
Honestly, just separate them and give the kids to middle-class. Those birth parents suck, the kids get access to internet and league of legends/sweet-ass hentai and best of all it discourages border crossing.
And being forcibly separated from your non-abusive parents and sent off to adoption severely decreases chances of success. We already went over this with the Stolen Generations.
OK so do they counter each other out or something? Like increased chance of success due to being raised in a proper environment versus decreased chance of success from emotional trauma?
This doesn't mean communism is good, but the idea it's as bad as fascism is at best delusion.
Well at least we agree on one thing: Communism isn't as bad as fascism - it's FAR worse. If you contrast the death toll of both forms of government it's not even a close race. Hitler was a rookie at mass murdering people compared to Mao or Stalin.
You'd have to read more of the book, I'm not so much in the mood to copypasta 2 pages here, but trust me, the fascists weren't running the show in Spain.
Not fascist either. Academics consider Italy/German the only successful fascist movements, as in the only ones to actually seize power.
Even the wiki page sums it up:
With fascist organizations being popular and widely supported across many countries (like Italian Fascism and Nazism) as an antagonist of communist ideologies, AntĆ³nio de Oliveira Salazar developed the Estado Novo which can be described as a right leaning corporatist regime of para-fascist inspiration. The basis of his regime was a platform of stability, in direct contrast to the unstable environment of the First Republic. According to some Portuguese scholars like Jaime Nogueira Pinto[4] and Rui Ramos,[5] his early reforms and policies changed the whole nation since they allowed political and financial stability and therefore social order and economic growth, after the politically unstable and financially chaotic years of the Portuguese First Republic (1910ā1926). After the First Republic, when not even public order was achieved, this looked like an impressive breakthrough to most of the population; Salazar achieved his height in popularity at this point. This transfiguration of Portugal was then known as A LiĆ§Ć£o de Salazar ā "Salazar's Lesson". Salazar's program was opposed to communism, socialism, and liberalism. It was pro-Catholic, conservative, and nationalistic. Its policy envisaged the perpetuation of Portugal as a pluricontinental empire, financially autonomous and politically independent from the dominating superpowers, and a source of civilization and stability to the overseas societies in the African and Asian possessions.
If both the Iberian regimes can be considered not fascist enough, then why is Germany also considered fascist? The difference between the Iberian regimes and the Italian one is similar to the difference between the German and Italian regimes. There's a whole racial doctrine linked to Nazi expansionism missing from the Italian version of fascism.
And who are the academics that only consider Italy and Germany the only successful fascist movements? Paxton? Renzo De Felice doesn't even consider the Nazis fascist, 'academics' are in constant debate over which regimes are fascist and which aren't since the ideology is hard to define.
The "problem" with fascism is each movement is different. Nazism was a form of fascism, not "the" only brand of fascism.
for example:
This book takes the position that they are, because they reject any universal value other than the success of chosen peoples in a Darwinian struggle for primacy. The community comes before humankind in fascist values, and respecting individual rights or due process gave way to serving the destiny of the Volk or razza. Therefore each individual national fascist movement gives full expression to its own cultural particularism. Fascism, unlike the other āisms,ā is not for export: each movement jealously guards its own recipe for national revival, and fascist leaders seem to feel little or no kinship with their foreign cousins. It has proved impossible to make any fascist āinternationalā work.
Have you only read that book on fascism? If you only take Paxton's definition of fascism as the right one then yes only Germany and Italy were fascist, but I could just as easily say that racial science is incompatible with fascism.
Grouped according to their several interests, individuals form classes; they form trade-unions when organized according to their several economic activities; but first and foremost they form the State, which is no mere matter of numbers, the suns of the individuals forming the majority. Fascism is therefore opposed to that form of democracy which equates a nation to the majority, lowering it to the level of the largest number (17); but it is the purest form of democracy if the nation be considered as it should be from the point of view of quality rather than quantity, as an idea, the mightiest because the most ethical, the most coherent, the truest, expressing itself in a people as the conscience and will of the few, if not, indeed, of one, and ending to express itself in the conscience and the will of the mass, of the whole group ethnically molded by natural and historical conditions into a nation, advancing, as one conscience and one will, along the self same line of development and spiritual formation (18). Not a race, nor a geographically defined region, but a people, historically perpetuating itself; a multitude unified by an idea and imbued with the will to live, the will to power, self-consciousness, personality (19).
With footnote 19 being
19) Race: it is a feeling and not a reality; 95 %, a feeling.
That's straight from Mussolini himself, and while I personally don't think that it excludes the Nazis from being considered fascist it should highlight the difficulty in defining the ideology. I know it is tempting to take one work as a definitive authority on a topic (I made that mistake a lot in my first years of university), I would urge against it because you're just arguing that Paxton is the absolute authority on who is and isn't fascist.
I'm quoting Paxton because the man is literally the most credible academic on the subject.
I mean, you're trying to cite something Mussolini said, which, to be honest, kind of leads me to believe you don't really understand fascism at all.
It's like people that quote Hitler and claim he was a socialist. At this point, it kind of seems as if you tried to come at me, didn't think I'd have academic sources to prove you wrong, and are now just trying to gymnastics it a bit.
No, I assumed you had sources since you said you could suggest some books to someone else, so I'm not surprised you quoted Paxton and wikipedia. But okay pizzashill you win I don't understand fascism.
I mean most people don't, I don't have some amazing grasp of it. But I know enough about it to understand what meets the actual "definition" and what doesn't.
I also said I could suggest a book, anatomy of fascism being one of them. The third reich trilogy is a great series as well. There really is a difference between "fascism" and "conservative military dictatorship."
No, and thatās okay. I donāt criticize anyoneās lack of wanting to be in massive debt.
The reason I ask is because Iād like to inform you that anything regarding history after World War Two is probably one of the most debated academic topics and you can cherry pick any event or topic about the Cold War and have 400 different interpretations for the simple fact that much of it is either a. Not declassified by any respective government or b. Has active bearing on the current time, Academics arenāt a singular group, and I can tell you there are dozens of sources that disagree with your statement about Italy and Germany being the only successful fascist movements
B) When your go-to response when confronted with actual historical scholarsghip on a subject is to declare "ree the academics are lying" you basically just out yourself as someone incapable of formulating a real argument. I'd highly suggest you learn what fascism is, because you will not find a credible expert on the subject claiming there were successful fascist movements outside of Italy/Germany.
Even wikipedia:
Argentina came under the rule of Juan PerĆ³n in 1946 and he is sometimes characterised as a fascist. However the description of Peronism as fascist has proven controversial in academic circles.
Note the word controversial. I didnāt say they were lying or wrong, Iām saying itās not a cut and dry thing. You relying heavily on third party sources and being unable to actually discuss the merits of the findings speaks volumes about your knowledge of the subject.
I can find 5 sources that disagree with your statement by tomorrow if youād like, academic ones as well.
I'm not interested in discussing the merits with you because I do not believe you have even a basic idea what you're talking about.
You're the kind of person that runs around claiming Spain was fascist. It's historical illiteracy combined with a misunderstanding of the term "fascism."
Anyone claiming that country was fascist is a moron.
Are you afraid you might actually lose an argument that disrupts your bubble pizza?
You have significant issues with your assertions, stemming from your own belief of what fascism is, to the fact that you canāt actually tell the class why Argentina and Chile and Myanmar and Spain arenāt fascists and how their governments different from one another. (Hint: they all have economic differences:
Fascism was also stopped by the rest of the world because fascism launched a war of world conquest in which they intended to exterminate multiple ethnic groups.
Every time I come to this sub and encounter you tards it becomes really clear how poorly educated you guys are.
I love the bootlicker meme. I mean, I'd get it coming from anarchists but Tankies literally worship a government structure that literally controls every tiny aspect of their lives.
Really, why should commiefornia and jew York decide what the nation does any more than the rest of america. The guy is arguing for states rights but apparently hasn't figured that out.
By attacking them like that you validate their belief that "Democrats are the real racists." and motivate them to continue voting Republican, partially out of spite.
Sure, the only scenario is when you're rich, likely going to die within the next 40 years, and feel like fucking society over so you can have short-term profit.
This only makes sense if you look at things over very short time periods, the healthcare expenses alone would likely eat up any benefit an average person gets.
This only makes sense if you look at things over very short time periods, the healthcare expenses alone would likely eat up any benefit an average person gets.
??? how did you leap to "removal of all government-sponsored healthcare" from tax cuts. it's possible to cut taxes and adjust government spending in more than one way you know.
It's not that I don't understand econ, it's that you're a dumb person that has a very narrow understanding of what is being discussed here.
always with the zero substance pseud insults pizza. "you don't understand what's being discussed here" big retort.
go shave ur facial pubes, maybe not looking like a total NEET will give you the confidence to not be so aggressive all the time
You understand environmental damage causes damage to public health, correct?
You understand the US has one of the worst healthcare systems on the planet, correct?
You understand that, for example, the areas getting polluted will mainly be poor areas, meaning these "average" men end up fucked over in the long term, correct?
You absolutely can, [use skin color to determine what an individual thinks] tbh. It's like when dumb ass rural white people elect conservatives.
Like do you unironically believe the GOP is good for them?
Keep fighting the good fight, champ. I'm on your side tbqh.
If those fags and negroids don't lern what's good for 'em soon I think we should only give them a percentage of a vote. Something like 60% the vote of a superiorly intelligent straight white male like yourself. That way they still feel represented but they can't fuck things up for the rest of the ~master race~ country. We can call it the 60% compromise or something.
So I guess you think you know better than the minorities whatās best for them? That sounds a LOT like the arguments people used to make against emancipation and equal voting rights. Out of curiosity does the Klan supply your uniform or do you use your own bedsheets?
So because you think you know better than black people, and you think you know better than most people in general because they're retarded, that means you think black people are retarded?
Bring it every time something unconvincing happens
Oh! r/iamverysmart !
Yeah, all fucking possible evidence you wasting your time arguing with people who are fucking obvious trolls suggest you are fucking NEET. But even if somebody would bring video proof you would say "eh, it could be fabricated" or something equally retarded. Fucking edgy kid
So your proof I'm a "neet" is I posted on Reddit, and to be clear here, you believe the only way I could be posting on Reddit during these hours is if I'm a NEET?
That's the argument you want to go with, and you see no glaring holes in said argument?
It's like the gay guys that vote republican, it doesn't even make sense.
It makes perfect sense, most of them are Double-Income No Kids and don't want to funnel their hard-earned money back into a system for a bunch of dumb fucking straights who breed like bunnies and suck off the government teat to funnel their inbred little shits.
It's just not entertaining, it's kind of like when an angry teenager runs out of real arguments and starts saying things he thinks will hurt you, because in his tiny world, if someone called him fat, or ugly, that'd hurt him.
You thinking that spam linking my picture and calling me ugly will somehow impact me is more telling of yourself than anything.
You're insecure, so by lashing out in this way you bolster your own low self-esteem.
It's all very basic, really. You operate in the way same a 14 year old bully does, but sadly this isn't high school, so it's an exercise in impotence.
I can give coherent reasons for everything I believe. Trumptards on the other hand? Not so much, most of the time they just repeat Trumpian talking points riddled with literal fake news.
Eh, black people vote Democrat because that's where the path to power was and is in most places they live, and as Democrats have done worse with whites the black vote has become more important to them (critically so in the South and Midwest) that it is in fact over-represented within the Democratic Party. Even if they wanted to the GOP has no way of offering that kind of power to black voters within its own party.
Also the GOP is historically a party of the northeast and west while the Democrats are historically the party of the south so it's hardly surprising that the latter does a much better job of outreach at the local level. Just compare the two parties' presidential candidates from the last 50 years for example and try to guess which ones have had better opportunities to make connections with the black community at the local and state levels. This is also why George W Bush did better with Hispanic voters than Mitt Romney: it's a lot easier to connect with Hispanics as the governor of Texas versus being the governor of Massachusetts.
Hey fuck face, the Democrats preach about how "tolerant" they are, but that means fuck-all when you factor in how much their policies have destroyed the black community.
Welfare and the current state of school systems have created entire cities of blacks who have no marketable skills and can't pass basic literacy tests. The Democrats did that, no the Republicans.
Can you explain to me how exactly the Republicans are "racist as shit?" Can you tell me what they've done that's been racist, please?
I'm dead serious when I say this is the most retarded comment I've ever seen anyone write on Reddit.
I'll ignore the racist rants about how democrats have "destroyed the black community" because black people still have issues with poverty, and get right to this absurd shit:
Can you explain to me how exactly the Republicans are "racist as shit?" Can you tell me what they've done that's been racist, please?
Racial voter suppression.
Trump linking fake crime statistics on twitter to attack black Americans.
The southern strategy, in which Republicans outright admitted to:
The perception that the Republican Party had served as the "vehicle of white supremacy in the South", particularly during the Goldwater campaign and the presidential elections of 1968 and 1972, made it difficult for the Republican Party to win the support of black voters in the South in later years.[4] In 2005, Republican National Committee chairman Ken Mehlman formally apologized to the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People (NAACP), a national civil rights organization, for exploiting racial polarization to win elections and ignoring the black vote.[13][14]
I'm dead serious when I say this is the most retarded comment I've ever seen anyone write on Reddit.
Back at you, you oogly ass motherfucker.
I'll ignore the racist rants about how democrats have "destroyed the black community" because black people still have issues with poverty
"Still have issues with poverty." Hey white boy, that didn't happen out of thin air, it came of Democrat policies.
The southern strategy, in which Republicans outright admitted to:
Ima ignore the shit you said about Trump because I understand that your Trump Derangement Syndrome is too deeply embedded in your inbred caveman skull for you to be reasoned with on anything having to do with Daddy, so let's just jump to this bullshit.
Nobody denied that LBJ had used the n word before. That doesn't mean the quote you're claiming he said came from him, and the fact you think this is how logic works reveals you to be a complete moron.
So again - there is no proof that he ever said what you quoted.
To put this into perspective and show exactly how dumb you are.
are you smart enough to google which parties have been in control over the past 30 or 40 years and see it was in fact both democrats and republicans doing it
you realize Trump could never have gotten elected without the 2012 Obama voter switched to Trump in 2016? do you reaaalllyyy think that many people turned racist in 4 years? something to think about.
I think there's a large and growing amount of evidence that racial anxiety and fears of a declining white majority turned people towards the populist right.
im sure you can find some bullshit studies exaggerating figures that make up about one percent of one percent of the population. do yo you deny that former Obama voters are the reason Trump is in office right now?
because its very easy to lump people in as 'white supremacists' for arguing against popular black culture which glorifies criminality.
lets try using our own brains here for a second, did millions of Obama voters become racist in 4 years, or did Trump's economic and immigration policy's appeal to them because the DNC promised change and delivered bullshit.
because its very easy to lump people in as 'white supremacists' for arguing against popular black culture which glorifies criminality.
This isn't a valid reason for why the studies are "bullshit" and I'm not sure how you think it is.
Not only that, but the studies don't even look at this. Serious question, have you ever read these papers?
lets try using our own brains here for a second, did millions of Obama voters become racist in 4 years, or did Trump's economic and immigration policy's appeal to them because the DNC promised change and delivered bullshit.
Considering exit polls showed voters worried about the economy voted Hillary Clinton, no, the idea economics is why the least intelligent citizens in our society voted Trump seems questionable.
Better yet, can you explain to me how Trump's economic illiteracy is going to help them?
This isn't a valid reason for why the studies are "bullshit" and I'm not sure how you think it is.
Not only that, but the studies don't even look at this. Serious question, have you ever read these papers?
I have read articles posted on /r/politics claiming an increase in 'white nationalism' and ommissions in the specifics of their tells me its bullshit. feel free to link me something that proves me wrong tho.
Considering exit polls showed voters worried about the economy voted Hillary Clinton, no, the idea economics is why the least intelligent citizens in our society voted Trump seems questionable.
Better yet, can you explain to me how Trump's economic illiteracy is going to help them?
polls and especially exit polls in the 2016 election have been proven so far from reality I'm surprised you have the balls to cite them. didn't the exit polls also not match up with the results for much of the democratic primary?
lol virtually full employment, over 4% GDP growth, and I personally got a raise from his tax cut. For an economic illiterate something seems to be working. either way, as Michael Moore of all people correctly predicted, voting for Trump was a 'fuck you' to Washington, because the Obama admin SCREWED their voters.
promising change, when pretty much all the changes were negative, telling us to 'see something, say something' then deleting whistleblower protections from their website when actual whistleblowers emerge, expanding the drone strike program, fucking healthcare in the ass even harder, but no, it must be racism.
I have read articles posted on /r/politics claiming an increase in 'white nationalism' and ommissions in the specifics of their tells me its bullshit. feel free to link me something that proves me wrong tho.
So that's you, right now, admitting that you haven't read any of these papers? I need you to say yes or no before I link them.
polls and especially exit polls in the 2016 election have been proven so far from reality I'm surprised you have the balls to cite them. didn't the exit polls also not match up with the results for much of the democratic primary?
A) Polls were literally within margin of error in 2016 and as accurate as they've been historically, which is pretty accurate:
B) National exit polls are fairly accurate, and even if they weren't, there's no way they'd this far off. Trump voters did not vote based on economic facotrs.
lol virtually full employment, over 4% GDP growth,
B) Quarterly GDP growth does not = annual GDP growth.
For an economic illiterate something seems to be working. either way, as Michael Moore of all people correctly predicted, voting for Trump was a 'fuck you' to Washington, because the Obama admin SCREWED their voters.
This is wild. You're citing long term trends as evidence Trump has done something and claiming a man that has started multiple trade wars is not an economic illiterate.
You understand Trump doesn't even understand what GDP is, right?
promising change, when pretty much all the changes were negative, telling us to 'see something, say something' then deleting whistleblower protections from their website when actual whistleblowers emerge, expanding the drone strike program, fucking healthcare in the ass even harder, but no, it must be racism.
Imagine being so retarded you think Obama made healthcare worse when in reality it was a bandaid on a festering wound that slowed healthcare costs and insured more people.
Exactly as I suspected - you're just a profoundly misinformed person with not even a basic comprehension of what you're talking about.
So that's you, right now, admitting that you haven't read any of these papers? I need you to say yes or no before I link them.
I read the articles posted on/r/politics making the same claims you are now, and they were pretty easily debunked as being extremely flexible with the term 'white nationalist' so I don't know if they are these same wonderful 'papers' you still havn't linked, but again feel free to do so.
A) Polls were literally within margin of error in 2016 and as accurate as they've been historically, which is pretty accurate:
on a national scale, for the actual battleground states that matter they were wildly inaccurate. but sure lets give credibility back to the institutions that utterly failed in 2016 because theyve done so much to deserve it
National exit polls are fairly accurate, and even if they weren't, there's no way they'd this far off. Trump voters did not vote based on economic facotrs.
depends what you mean by economic factors, I think Michael Moore of all people said it best.
again, seems a lot more believable then millions of Obama voters turning racist, a point you still havn't addressed really.
Long term trend:
unemployment stagnated in Q3/Q4 of 2016 and immediately dropped sharply right after Trump took office. Also, even if its jsut continuing a trend, a positive trend is still helpinghelping the economy, derp. something you claim he would do the opposite of.
B) Quarterly GDP growth does not = annual GDP growth.
please show me where I ever said it did. O only crested 4% quarterly once in 8 years, Trump has already hit it, and 2017 was in the 3's I believe? seems pretty decent to me.
This is wild. You're citing long term trends as evidence Trump has done something and claiming a man that has started multiple trade wars is not an economic illiterate.
You understand Trump doesn't even understand what GDP is, right?
except the markets aren't suffering nearly as much as the left wishes they would from these trade wars. my friend is pretty into trading and he says it doesn't make sense but the trade war isn't really hurting us, just a lot of uncertainty.
Imagine being so retarded you think Obama made healthcare worse when in reality it was a bandaid on a festering wound that slowed healthcare costs and insured more people.
oh lets get rid of charging more for preexisting conditions, and then wonder why no one buys any health insurance until AFTER they have a condition. I know! we just force them to get insurance with a fine! oh, the fine wasn't nearly enough, so premiums will still shoot up 20-40% ? some bandaid. good job, you've shown how much you understand economics. You're like the stereotypical 'reddit smart'
I read the articles posted on/r/politics making the same claims you are now, and they were pretty easily debunked as being extremely flexible with the term 'white nationalist' so I don't know if they are these same wonderful 'papers' you still havn't linked, but again feel free to do so.
Copy paste where I used the term white nationalist.
on a national scale, for the actual battleground states that matter they were wildly inaccurate. but sure lets give credibility back to the institutions that utterly failed in 2016 because theyve done so much to deserve it
A) National polls are all that matters, in reality.
B) Even in the "battleground states" they were fairly accurate and near or within margin of error.
depends what you mean by economic factors, I think Michael Moore of all people said it best.
No he didn't, the man is a moron, and anyone voting for Trump for his listed reasons is highly misinformed.
again, seems a lot more believable then millions of Obama voters turning racist, a point you still havn't addressed really.
It wasn't millions, and I'm baffled as to where you got that number from.
unemployment stagnated in Q3/Q4 of 2016 and immediately dropped sharply right after Trump took office. Also, even if its jsut continuing a trend, a positive trend is still helpinghelping the economy, derp. something you claim he would do the opposite of.
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You have no idea how to read a graph. Unemployment has been dropping for years, the long-term trend was always down. The "economy" has been at full employment for a while too:
please show me where I ever said it did. O only crested 4% quarterly once in 8 years, Trump has already hit it, and 2017 was in the 3's I believe? seems pretty decent to me.
Ignoring the fact the president has little to nothing to do with the economy outside of idiots like you looking for scapegoats, here's annual GDP growth dating back years:
The idea Trump has done something to the economy is just hilarious.
except the markets aren't suffering nearly as much as the left wishes they would from these trade wars. my friend is pretty into trading and he says it doesn't make sense but the trade war isn't really hurting us, just a lot of uncertainty.
LOL, trade war isn't hurting us. You are out of your fucking mind, do you even know what the long-term impacts of a trade war are?
oh lets get rid of charging more for preexisting conditions, and then wonder why no one buys any health insurance until AFTER they have a condition.
Dafuq are you even talking about you moron. What do you think the mandate was for?
the fine wasn't nearly enough, so premiums will still shoot up 20-40% ? some bandaid. good job, you've shown how much you understand economics. You're like the stereotypical 'reddit smart'
I like how you cite "20-40% premium increases" ignoring the fact that was slower than pre obamacare:
Under Bush, the average family premiums (including both what employers and employees pay) went up $4,677 in his last six years in office, from 2002 to 2008, an increase of 58 percent. That $4,154 growth under Obama is a 33 percent increase. If we look at Bushās first six years, the discrepancy gets even bigger: From 2000, the year before Bush was first inaugurated, to 2006, the average family premium went up $5,042, or an increase of 78 percent. (See Exhibit 1.11 on page 31 of the KFF report for these numbers.)
Was Obamacare perfect? No, but it did improve the healthcare system, irrefutably. Single payer is the best solution, but Trump and the republicans aren't competent enough to grasp that.
I'll give this a fair response when I have time to break it down properly. but the mandate didn't outweigh the cost of having health insurance when you're healthy so premiums still shot up, when this was supposed to make things cheaper for most people overall, to make up for the people biting the fine and not paying into the system.
this is much the problem with most liberal policies, doesn't account for people being shitty and taking advantage of a good-intentioned system.
the premium growth as in its still growing, just at a slower rate. the objective fact is that the majority of American's had their healthcare costs go up, if there were savings, please show me who got them.
Slowing the rate of premium growth is the exact same as reducing costs...
How can you not comprehend this?
the objective fact is that the majority of American's had their healthcare costs go up, if there were savings, please show me who got them.
The objective fact is the ACA slowed the growth of health care costs, meaning the majority of America did not have their healthcare costs go up. When looking at statistics like this you have to compare what they would have been with no ACA. This is pretty basic stuff.
thats not the point, Obama campaigned his health plan under the premise that American's premiums would go down not up.
Again, the fact you can't comprehend how this works is weird. If premium growth was slower/lower post ACA, it means premiums are lower than they would have been without the bill, which is the exact same as reducing premiums.
either way, turns out your claim is based on flawed data
No, it's not. Your own article doesn't even deny premiums increased faster before the ACA, it's saying Bernie Sanders exaggerated the rate at which they increased before the ACA.
The rate of premium growth irrefutably slowed post ACA:
what a surprise, more bullshit studies, almost predictable at this point.
What? You've yet to point out a single study that was "bullshit" and you've yet to even refute my point, you linked something literally confirming my argument and thought it refuted it.
if someone's premiums go up $100 dollars under Bush, and then only $40 under O, did their costs increase or decrease under O?
its ok, I break things down Barney style for the inner city kids I tutor all the time, I can make it simpler if you need to, but do you see where you're fucking up here?
This is a prime example of the dunning kruger effect.
if someone's premiums go up $100 dollars under Bush, and then only $40 under O, did their costs increase or decrease under O?
If their premiums would have gone up 120 dollars without the ACA, they've saved money. The fact you can't comprehend this and are claiming to tutor people is alarming.
but did Obama not promise that he would decrease the cost of healthcare compared to as it was at that time, not if it had continued to rise at that same rate? which btw isn't as disparate as you're claiming.
but did Obama not promise that he would decrease the cost of healthcare compared to as it was at that time
Are you actually this learning disabled? It's literally impossible to decrease the cost of healthcare in any other way with how inflation works.
Every time I encounter one of you people the fact Trump managed to get elected makes way more sense. You guys like don't even understand numbers on a basic level.
obviously we are accounting for inflation genius, interesting how you chose to leave it out when comparing Bush numbers to Obama, as my previous link showed, when accounting for inflation, Premiums did not go up twice as much under Bush as Obama.
I understand what you're saying but it doesn't make logical sense with how insurance works. good economics is often bad politics. Healthcare reform was coming, it was a hot button for the last two elections, I think Obamacare was a very poor substitute. since you're so insistent that premiums would have rose much higher without Obamacare, could you explain how? because while im still looking this up, seems also clear to me that there could have been other economic factors raising or lowering costs, ie inflation which you had left out in your earlier statistics.
You need to understand how health care costs work and why higher insurance rates tend to = lower overall healthcare costs.
The reason you see those absurdly high healthcare bills in the US isn't because the hospital actually expects to get that much from you.
So someone with insurance might show up to the hospital, the hospital is in their network, they might bill you 25 thousand dollars and hope to see maybe 10 thousand dollars.
Now when someone isn't insured, they might get that same bill, and because they have no bargaining power/insurance they're on the hook for the full 25 thousand dollars.
Basically, the more people that have insurance, the less strain is put on the hospitals that by law are required to give you care if you need it, the lower overall costs are.
I think Obamacare was a very poor substitute.
Sure, if you want to argue the ACA could have been better, you aren't wrong. Even people that support the ACA know it wasn't perfect, the intent was to get the ball rolling. Hillary Clinton, for example, in her private speeches discusses the ACA strategy:
And indeed now with President Obama's legislative success in
getting the Affordable Care Act passed that is what we've done. We still
have primarily an employer-based system, but we now have people able to get
subsidized insurance. So we have health insurance companies playing a
major role in the provision of healthcare, both to the employed whose
employers provide health insurance, and to those who are working but on
their own are not able to afford it and their employers either don't
provide it, or don't provide it at an affordable price. We are still
struggling. We've made a lot of progress. Ten million Americans now have
insurance who didn't have it before the Affordable Care Act, and that is a
great step forward. (Applause.) And what we're going to have to continue
to do is monitor what the costs are and watch closely to see whether
employers drop more people from insurance so that they go into what we call
the health exchange system. So we're really just at the beginning. But we
do have Medicare for people over 65. And you couldn't, I don't think, take
it away if you tried, because people are very satisfied with it, but we
also have a lot of political and financial resistance to expanding that
system to more people. So we're in a learning period as we move forward
with the implementation of the Affordable Care Act. And I'm hoping that
whatever the shortfalls or the glitches have been, which in a big piece of
legislation you're going to have, those will be remedied and we can really
take a hard look at what's succeeding, fix what isn't, and keep moving
forward to get to affordable universal healthcare coverage like you have
here in Canada.
no he just flipped multiple states that were safely blue in 2012, but not the actual voters that were in them. great argument.
Look, I get you aren't very informed on most of these subjects, and you kind of just base your opinions on emotion rather than formulating them based on what the reality is, but my god.
The electoral college is winner take all. There is no such thing as a "blue wall" or a "red wall." At most even the safest of "walls" are a few percentage points away from flipping.
The election came down to about 80 thousand votes in those states.
Donald Trump owes his victory in the Electoral College to three states he won by the smallest number of votes: Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, and Michigan. So it's fair to say that the 2016 presidential election was decided by about 77,000 votes out of than 136 million ballots cast. According to the final tallies, Trump won Pennsylvania by 0.7 percentage points (44,292 votes), Wisconsin by 0.7 points (22,748 votes), Michigan by 0.2 points (10,704 votes). If Clinton had won all three states, she would have won the Electoral College 278 to 260. She fell short in all three, of course, and that's why we are now getting accustomed to the reality of President-elect Donald J. Trump. (This article has been updated to reflect final results.)
The idea Donald Trump flipped "millions of voters" is dishonest at best, willful ignorance at worst.
nothing else, no one could possibly be disenfranchised after being promised change and getting lied to.
Or, you know, rural people are perpetually enraged morons that have little to no understanding of how the world works. If the GOP wants to tie their noose with these voters, more power to them. I'll stick with the majority of the country and I'll take a long-term demographics victory over a short-term rural moron victory.
Donald Trump owes his victory in the Electoral College to three states he won by the smallest number of votes: Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, and Michigan. So it's fair to say that the 2016 presidential election was decided by about 77,000 votes out of than 136 million ballots cast. According to the final tallies, Trump won Pennsylvania by 0.7 percentage points (44,292 votes), Wisconsin by 0.7 points (22,748 votes), Michigan by 0.2 points (10,704 votes). If Clinton had won all three states, she would have won the Electoral College 278 to 260. She fell short in all three, of course, and that's why we are now getting accustomed to the reality of President-elect Donald J. Trump. (This article has been updated to reflect final results.)
those are only three of the states he flipped. disingenuous to leave all the other districts and states he flipped from 2012, on the go right now so I can't look up the sources, but the 'millions flipped' isn't so unfounded as you're making out.
its not emotion to say that Obama reneged on his campaign promises.
You understand the other states he "flipped" are swing states, correct, as in they can go either way depending on the election?
its not emotion to say that Obama reneged on his campaign promises.
Oh man, you mean to tell me someone running for political office in the united states of America made promises he couldn't possibly keep once in office?
Next you're going to tell me the sky is blue, grass is green, and Donald Trump has a learning disability.
Just cuz you mass downvote a reddit news thread doesnt mean it already made the rounds on Twitter and other social media. Why not just accept it and be like "Yeah, there is retards of all political flavors."?
Not so - else all of these idiots would have moved to Venezuela or North Korea by now. When others point at the sinking ship they will just claim āit wasnāt a real boatā or āreal buoyancy has never been tried.ā
Like we just spent the 20th century fighting off accusations that socialism was the same thing as communism
Then the minute the socialist movement actually starts going somewhere in America these idiots are like "Uhhh wait that's wrong, we actually do worship dictators".
Castro and Tito are like your gateway dictators, no real . Then your like "Hey Lenin had a few good points here", next thing you know your reading Mao's little red book and underneath a Stalin poster
The problem seems to be that moderation is not very sexy. Everyone can agree that 70f is generally a better temperature than 110f or -50f, but it doesn't work in politics for some reason. "We need to rally for our right to be boring!" just doesn't get out the vote.
...OK? Not sure what that has to do with anything, but alright. The fact that you insulted a proud POC woman disgusts me, you bigot. I'm banning you from /r/news.
The fact that the same people who railed against this woman when she was promoting Social Autopsy hold her up as some kind of paragon of free speech now will never not be funny.
You do realize that Charlie Kirk started a "Professor watch list" for people to doxx college professors on so that this exact type of shit would happen to them?
Kirk got a taste of his own medicine. How anyone can sympathize with him over the exact same thing he encouraged others to do is absolutely beyond me.
not how this works boyo. you made the claim its on you to prove it if you want anyone to believe it. then again your attitude tells me you're really just angry you can't get laid.
it doesn't say anything about home addresses you fricking psycho moron.
it simply provides conservative students with a guide to their professors, akin to Ratemyprofessors.com,[11] enabling them to avoid left-wing classes.[5]
Over one hundred University of Notre Dame faculty members signed an open letter asking to be included in the site, saying in part:[12]
?We surmise that the purpose of your list is to shame and silence faculty who espouse ideas you reject. But your list has had a different effect upon us. We are coming forward to stand with the professors you have called "dangerous," reaffirming our values and recommitting ourselves to the work of teaching students to think clearly, independently and fearlessly.
from your own source. smh. maybe thats why you can't get laid, retards shouldn't breed anyways
and I can follow back with, 'some extremists abused a website made by Charlie Kirk, which was designed to protect conservative students from biased professors'
are you against ratemyteacher.com as well? people were harassed for reviews on their as well.
its not about winning or losing, its discovering the facts. the facts are that is what Charlie Kirk claimed in its design. unless you can find proof showing otherwise, the only one lying or making baseless accusations is you.
No, the facts are about what happened. He knew exactly what he was doing, and if you're going to continue pretending that he was innocent in the outcome then you're as big a liar as your dipshit retard president.
this is the part that you are insisting but can't prove. I'm not 'pretending' he's innocent, under a court of law there is absolutely nothing you can prove he did maliciously in this case. Are you denying there are liberally biased professors?
No, I'm not denying that. Most educated people are liberally biased. Conservatives, and people like you who fall for the plausible deniability line like a bunch of fucking rubes, tend to not be very well educated or intelligent.
aw its cute you're still trying to be angry. Liberals tend to need to belong to a group, to fall back on because they can't stand on their own. Also why they fall apart in individual debates, much like you are right now.
all that education on the left, yet all the small business owners are on the right? Probably why you need to make up boogeymen to fight, you aren't contributing anything worthwhile otherwise.
so since you have no response, Im taking it as an admittal that you actually have no proof of your initial claims. what a surprise.
yet all the small business owners are on the right
A lie.
Probably why you need to make up boogeymen to fight, you aren't contributing anything worthwhile otherwise.
These aren't made up boogeymen. Our country is being run by corrupt, evil fucks right now. It would almost be funny if it wasn't so infuriating that the right has become so fucking oblivious to it.
Im taking it as an admittal that you actually have no proof of your initial claims.
lool if thats the best hyperbole you can call me on I think Im doing ok, just like you said that being educated = liberal. considering Democratic business owners are the clear minority my original point still stands. all that education, but no balls to actually make something yourself. much easier to rage against your repressed pussification anonymously online
I love conservatives being racist towards democrat voting black by saying that they're slaves to the liberal indoctrination and too dumb to think for themselves. I don't care if Coondace is black or not. She's a racist piece of shit. And yes I see the irony in my post.
As someone who was paying close attention to her doxxing website and subsequent run-in with GamerGate, I've never seen a more retarded and unhinged lolcow than Candace Owens.
It's really amazing that someone hired her for their cause. Personally, I'd pay money for her to be on the opposing side. Just look at this unhinged shit: "I will personally call the UN tomorrow and get in touch with the right person. This is sick." and "I've gone from a femi-nazi idiot barbie to a hardcore gamer. REEEEEEEACCCHHHHHHH" and "How many troll accounts do you guys think these girls run? How deep do you think this goes?"
When the most common criticisms of your political party are that your leaders are conspiracy theorists, nutjobs, or racists... I'm really not convinced that hiring the black conspiracy theorist/nutjob is the home run they seem to think it is.
Also, I would prefer if they'd found someone a little less... "outspoken"
Honestly I think they are just going whole hog on the fear-mongering tactic. It's become just a power struggle vs any meaningful attempt at policy-wrangling.
Yeah, I don't really care about the shitfits Pizzashill and Queenoftheincels are throwing, but a group of white kids to harassing a black woman because she is the white supremacist is some juicy shit. Same with that Portland Antifa crew calling police racial slurs while at the same time accusing them of racism.
It's the kind of thing that keeps you doubletaking until your neck breaks.
Iām honestly impressed they donāt appreciate the irony of them attacking so many Democrats turned independent for the very reason theyāre showing. They have to be trolling, there is no way someone is that dense. Fuck politics down south is fucked up, and I can see it happening more and more here in Canada. Iām calling a civil war when Trump does a reelection campaign, anyone want to start a betting site for this?
As if these chuckleheads are Democrats. They vote for socialist candidates, workers' party candidates, etc. Sure if they had to pick a color it would be blue, but that's as much of a group to judge the Democrats by as Skinheads are for the Republicans.
They each align with a party, but the average member of that party will have more in common with a member of the opposing party than either fringe group.
Then they need to start getting a hell of a lot more vocal on saying theyāre not part of the party and outliers. The amount of āwell the republicans are racist anyways so I donāt care lulā circle jerking going on in that thread is absurd.
Fuck, hunting people down and disrupting their breakfast because they have different ideas from you is idiotic to me too, but I guess thatās the level of discourse we hit.
I feel like Charlie Kirk conservatism with Candice Owens and all his other woke minority voices is just controlled opposition or some shit lmao, heās out here like āmuh identity politics muh stupid sjw all conservatism really means is international capitalismā and then does nothing but host āright wing Latino womanā rallies and pander like crazy lmao, dudes fake as fuck
" So a bunch of white and what I assume are Democrats, rallied and chased a black woman out of a restaurant? Getting back to their roots I see. "
American politics: 1. watch a video of a bunch of kids doing dumb shit. 2. Assume their political party. 3. Use video of children combined with assumption of political beliefs to stereotype an imaginary group of people. 4. get mad and post online. 5. feel good about self.
two party system is practically built into democracy though. Countries with 3+ parties always have the smaller parties making alliances with the 2 biggest ones so they can get 51% of the vote
Although coalitions are much more important here, it is the same in the Netherlands with the Freedom Party (Wilders). I hate where he stands for and his antics made it impossible for them to wield any real power, but I love that someone can start a new party and rush in like a whirlwind. Wilders just 'forgot' (by design probably) that you need other parties.
Coalitions make it that you need to represent all voters, not just your party base, and sometimes that means having to work with parties you're not entirely compatible with.
Yeah, remember how shocked and surprised everyone was? How people were like "Wow this is so unusual to happen in a democracy where the two big tent parties don't make it to an election!"
Like, exceptions are not the rule. I mean, political realignments happen, and this one happens to be global.
I met Charlie Kirk and Candace Owens once in CA. When I walked up I could tell they were expecting/hoping for a confrontation but I disarmed them with my radical centrism. Kirk is a fucking giant. Ugly as sin too.
I'm still pissed I got banned from there for posting a non worthy comment and pissing off some baby mod. Didn't even get a chance to shitpost about antifa or muslims or something.
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1 SnapshillBot 2018-08-08
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1 Ultrashitposter 2018-08-08
Just because we allowed you to leave the plantation, doesn't mean you can vote against what we want you to vote for. Fucking UNCLE TOM.
1 pizzashill 2018-08-08
I like how black people voting Democrat because the GOP is racist as shit is always met with this "plantation" meme from Republicans.
Hint: They vote against you because you're racist, not because they're brainwashed.
1 Ultrashitposter 2018-08-08
I'm not a republican, pozzy
1 pizzashill 2018-08-08
Aren't you an admitted fascist?
1 Ultrashitposter 2018-08-08
yes
1 pizzashill 2018-08-08
Fascists tend to seek alliance with mainstream conservatives in order to obtain power, and in fact, both successful fascist movements (Italy and Germany) were levered into power by conservatives.
The Trump base is a proto-fascist movement. So how are you any different?
1 Ultrashitposter 2018-08-08
Trump is just a republican with no filter. His immigration policies are no different from those of Billyboy in the 90's, and ICE was just as bad as it is now as it was under Obama.
Here's a good article on it: http://slatestarcodex.com/2016/11/16/you-are-still-crying-wolf/
The far right that rose in the wake of Trump is only because of the media's own attention to Trump, and how they have desensitized people to all the things that they have accused Trump of.
1 pizzashill 2018-08-08
We're done here lmao.
1 Ultrashitposter 2018-08-08
No really, instead of put into detainment centers they were just put into the hands of human smugglers.
1 shallowm 2018-08-08
You were put down, in the future please refrain from discussing subjects you have no education in.
1 CSharpApostle 2018-08-08
Shut the fuck up neoliberal shill
1 kippot 2018-08-08
gtfo, mdegenerate incel
1 CSharpApostle 2018-08-08
How am i an mdegenerate you chapofag house
1 kippot 2018-08-08
well it has to do with your lack of positive rolemodels, autism, NEET life, incel, bitterness, stupidity, lack of education, general retardation and finally, horrible insecurity
1 CSharpApostle 2018-08-08
Thats a hard miss on all of those projections lmfao
1 kippot 2018-08-08
you asked me how you are a mdegenerate, i just told you ;)
1 UniverseInH 2018-08-08
dude you really need to come up with a new one
1 CSharpApostle 2018-08-08
Kippot is a nut case. Just like all of us in this purgatory sub
1 kippot 2018-08-08
i speak the truth, look at how he deflects
1 CSharpApostle 2018-08-08
Bitterness is the only one that hits. Im very bitter about how thr next two decades look
Ie more war in fucking ME
1 kippot 2018-08-08
why would a NEET incel care be bitter about that?
1 CSharpApostle 2018-08-08
What?
1 kippot 2018-08-08
why would a NEET incel be bitter about that?
1 CSharpApostle 2018-08-08
?
1 CSharpApostle 2018-08-08
Thats a hard miss on all of those projections lmfao
1 Mat_The_49th 2018-08-08
Nice doublepost, fgt
1 CSharpApostle 2018-08-08
Thats a hard miss on all of those projections lmfao
1 pizzashill 2018-08-08
The idea ICE was the same under Obama is so hilariously false, how is it even possible to conclude?
1 CSharpApostle 2018-08-08
Im not agreeing with him nor you
Shave your face and clean your room
1 richmomz 2018-08-08
It's also a reactionary response to extremism coming from the left (ie: Antifa). Want to empower Nazis? The easiest way to do that is to promote and provoke violent radical leftists. How do we know this? Because that's exactly what happened in Weimar Germany.
1 cmakk1012 2018-08-08
OK MDEfugee
1 richmomz 2018-08-08
You're just blind to the centrist truth.
1 cmakk1012 2018-08-08
Fuck u right
1 DoctorMort 2018-08-08
tbh the alt-right is basically just as irrelevant as antifa.
1 Lindseyisagirlsname 2018-08-08
Fuck off fag. You didn't even hear about antifa until Trump became the president. If you are anti a group that's anti fascists... What's that make you?
1 alphetasauce 2018-08-08
Smart. Normal. Nonlarper.
1 Lindseyisagirlsname 2018-08-08
It likely makes you a fascist. Sorry
1 alphetasauce 2018-08-08
Lol, so much for radical centrism. If you subscribe to a political ideology, you're a pawn and a goober. No political system is going to actually advocate for you beyond making sure you don't grab enough angry people and throw them out of power.
1 Lindseyisagirlsname 2018-08-08
Totally agreed. Which is why we need to bash plebs that are propping up and obviously compromised administration.. Only idealogy I subscribe to is I don't like stupid people. The right just happens to be full of them and in power. Blame Jesus.
1 ButtfuckChampion_ 2018-08-08
You sound like a stupid person.
1 Butch_Patterson 2018-08-08
Sane? Rational? Not a violent piece of shit who's trying to live out their murder fantasy and justify it by saying "DEY FASCIST"?
1 Lindseyisagirlsname 2018-08-08
Meh. Half the people still voting gop are legit lite fascists lol. Antifa gaining notoriety is just so the right can pretend having antifa "on your side" is as bad as all the klansmen the Gop counts as the base. Lol
1 Butch_Patterson 2018-08-08
https://media.giphy.com/media/a3zqvrH40Cdhu/giphy.gif
1 IllustriousQuail 2018-08-08
I don't get it either. Trump is easily the most liberal Republican president since . . . Eisenhower? Teddy Roosevelt?
One wonders how badly Democrats would be freaking-out if say Ted Cruz had won.
1 Agenda_Poster 2018-08-08
Ronald Reagan pardoned all illegal immigrants, doesn't that make him some kinda soyboy?
1 LightUmbra 2018-08-08
He also was anti-gun (when black people are involved).
1 Agenda_Poster 2018-08-08
Ronald Reagan is a fucking communist. I bet he would have said violent video games are bad as well the fuckin sjw.
1 Lehk 2018-08-08
donald trump is the first president to have openly supported gay marriage before being elected.
1 shallowm 2018-08-08
President Nixon was a notorious communist, he wanted to introduce universal basic income in the US.
1 pitterpatterwater 2018-08-08
It actually was not; before Trump's zero-tolerance policies they trended to not actually separate children from their parents.
1 Neon_needles 2018-08-08
Honestly they should just jail kids with parents. Just throw in a extra toilet and a Nintendo DS in there something. š¤·āāļø
1 pitterpatterwater 2018-08-08
Kids in jail are allowed to communciate with parents. The Trump admin ahs also failed to keep detailed records of seperated kids and parents, thus making reuniting them difficult.
1 Neon_needles 2018-08-08
Honestly, just separate them and give the kids to middle-class. Those birth parents suck, the kids get access to internet and league of legends/sweet-ass hentai and best of all it discourages border crossing.
Everyone wins!!
1 pitterpatterwater 2018-08-08
Kids do not, as a rule, agree to family separation because their new familly has a higher income level.
1 Neon_needles 2018-08-08
I'm not being ironic, tho
1 pitterpatterwater 2018-08-08
Kids generally don't like being permanently separated from their parents because their new family has a higher income level.
1 Neon_needles 2018-08-08
Hajek Ha what dumb little idiots
1 Butch_Patterson 2018-08-08
Kids generally also don't like things such as eating vegetables, going to sleep, or doing homework.
Are you suggesting we should do away with all of those things as well?
1 pitterpatterwater 2018-08-08
Permanently separating kids from their parents because they crossed the border illegally is a violation of human rights.
1 Butch_Patterson 2018-08-08
Oh I agree, illegal border crossers should just be turned back en masse.
That doesn't change the sentiment that just because kids object to something doesn't mean it's in their best interest.
And frankly this would be in their best interest, even if it violates some international human rights treaty.
1 pitterpatterwater 2018-08-08
You are stating that crossing the border illegally shows that a child's aprents aren't fit to raise them?
Sorry, but I'm willing to believe that indiscrimiante permanent forced separation of children from their parents isn't very good for them either.
1 Butch_Patterson 2018-08-08
No, I think being raised in middle class America has better chances for success than being raised in buttfuck Mexico.
I mean there's a reason why they're trying to cross the border, right?
Also, not part of the DDF, just like pissing in pizzashills cornflakes.
1 pitterpatterwater 2018-08-08
And being forcibly separated from your non-abusive parents and sent off to adoption severely decreases chances of success. We already went over this with the Stolen Generations.
1 Butch_Patterson 2018-08-08
OK so do they counter each other out or something? Like increased chance of success due to being raised in a proper environment versus decreased chance of success from emotional trauma?
1 shallowm 2018-08-08
yeah, daddy wanted to prosecute everyone tho
1 Butch_Patterson 2018-08-08
"It's not enough we turn them away, we need to feel like we're doing something about the problem"
Ugg, Daddy so fragile
1 DoubleCheekedUp 2018-08-08
pppftp implying i'll take little Paco, Arian, Juanita, Jaime, and Casalupita
just Casalupita thx
1 throwaway03022017 2018-08-08
Fascism is preferable to communism
1 pizzashill 2018-08-08
No, it's not.
1 wabbit_1444 2018-08-08
Fashionism is
1 richmomz 2018-08-08
Anything, up to and including death, is preferable to communism. Source: my family escaped from Communist Romania.
1 pizzashill 2018-08-08
Fascism is a larger threat than communism is. Fascism is a set of emotional traits in which war is the ultimate goal, it is perpetual war.
Fascism is how you end the world.
1 richmomz 2018-08-08
Well at least we agree on one thing: Communism isn't as bad as fascism - it's FAR worse. If you contrast the death toll of both forms of government it's not even a close race. Hitler was a rookie at mass murdering people compared to Mao or Stalin.
1 pizzashill 2018-08-08
Anyone claiming Communism is as bad, or worse than fascism, is hilariously uneducated as to what fascism is.
I can suggest a book if you'd like, or two books.
1 Sculacciami 2018-08-08
True, I forgot about the perpetual Iberian war.
1 pizzashill 2018-08-08
Common misconception that Spain was fascist, most experts on fascism don't view it that way, from the anatomy of fascism:
1 Sculacciami 2018-08-08
Then why did Franco make the Falange the only political party in Spain?
1 pizzashill 2018-08-08
You'd have to read more of the book, I'm not so much in the mood to copypasta 2 pages here, but trust me, the fascists weren't running the show in Spain.
1 Sculacciami 2018-08-08
and Portugal?
1 pizzashill 2018-08-08
Not fascist either. Academics consider Italy/German the only successful fascist movements, as in the only ones to actually seize power.
Even the wiki page sums it up:
1 Sculacciami 2018-08-08
If both the Iberian regimes can be considered not fascist enough, then why is Germany also considered fascist? The difference between the Iberian regimes and the Italian one is similar to the difference between the German and Italian regimes. There's a whole racial doctrine linked to Nazi expansionism missing from the Italian version of fascism.
And who are the academics that only consider Italy and Germany the only successful fascist movements? Paxton? Renzo De Felice doesn't even consider the Nazis fascist, 'academics' are in constant debate over which regimes are fascist and which aren't since the ideology is hard to define.
1 pizzashill 2018-08-08
The "problem" with fascism is each movement is different. Nazism was a form of fascism, not "the" only brand of fascism.
for example:
1 Sculacciami 2018-08-08
Have you only read that book on fascism? If you only take Paxton's definition of fascism as the right one then yes only Germany and Italy were fascist, but I could just as easily say that racial science is incompatible with fascism.
With footnote 19 being
That's straight from Mussolini himself, and while I personally don't think that it excludes the Nazis from being considered fascist it should highlight the difficulty in defining the ideology. I know it is tempting to take one work as a definitive authority on a topic (I made that mistake a lot in my first years of university), I would urge against it because you're just arguing that Paxton is the absolute authority on who is and isn't fascist.
1 pizzashill 2018-08-08
I'm quoting Paxton because the man is literally the most credible academic on the subject.
I mean, you're trying to cite something Mussolini said, which, to be honest, kind of leads me to believe you don't really understand fascism at all.
It's like people that quote Hitler and claim he was a socialist. At this point, it kind of seems as if you tried to come at me, didn't think I'd have academic sources to prove you wrong, and are now just trying to gymnastics it a bit.
1 Sculacciami 2018-08-08
No, I assumed you had sources since you said you could suggest some books to someone else, so I'm not surprised you quoted Paxton and wikipedia. But okay pizzashill you win I don't understand fascism.
1 pizzashill 2018-08-08
I mean most people don't, I don't have some amazing grasp of it. But I know enough about it to understand what meets the actual "definition" and what doesn't.
I also said I could suggest a book, anatomy of fascism being one of them. The third reich trilogy is a great series as well. There really is a difference between "fascism" and "conservative military dictatorship."
1 Sculacciami 2018-08-08
I know what it is, I am Italian and have relatives that lived through Mussolini's reign and were also conscripted.
1 istural 2018-08-08
Tell me about Argentina pizza, were they too, not fascist?
1 pizzashill 2018-08-08
I can just repeat this again, the only 2 successful fascist movements = Germany/Italy.
1 istural 2018-08-08
The communists in Argentina thank you for washing away their sacrifices.
1 pizzashill 2018-08-08
I don't care what you or they think, I care what academics and experts on the subject think.
1 istural 2018-08-08
Pizza, did you attend college by chance?
1 pizzashill 2018-08-08
What do you think.
1 istural 2018-08-08
No, and thatās okay. I donāt criticize anyoneās lack of wanting to be in massive debt.
The reason I ask is because Iād like to inform you that anything regarding history after World War Two is probably one of the most debated academic topics and you can cherry pick any event or topic about the Cold War and have 400 different interpretations for the simple fact that much of it is either a. Not declassified by any respective government or b. Has active bearing on the current time, Academics arenāt a singular group, and I can tell you there are dozens of sources that disagree with your statement about Italy and Germany being the only successful fascist movements
1 pizzashill 2018-08-08
A) Yes.
B) When your go-to response when confronted with actual historical scholarsghip on a subject is to declare "ree the academics are lying" you basically just out yourself as someone incapable of formulating a real argument. I'd highly suggest you learn what fascism is, because you will not find a credible expert on the subject claiming there were successful fascist movements outside of Italy/Germany.
Even wikipedia:
1 istural 2018-08-08
Note the word controversial. I didnāt say they were lying or wrong, Iām saying itās not a cut and dry thing. You relying heavily on third party sources and being unable to actually discuss the merits of the findings speaks volumes about your knowledge of the subject.
I can find 5 sources that disagree with your statement by tomorrow if youād like, academic ones as well.
1 pizzashill 2018-08-08
I'm not interested in discussing the merits with you because I do not believe you have even a basic idea what you're talking about.
You're the kind of person that runs around claiming Spain was fascist. It's historical illiteracy combined with a misunderstanding of the term "fascism."
Anyone claiming that country was fascist is a moron.
1 istural 2018-08-08
Are you afraid you might actually lose an argument that disrupts your bubble pizza?
You have significant issues with your assertions, stemming from your own belief of what fascism is, to the fact that you canāt actually tell the class why Argentina and Chile and Myanmar and Spain arenāt fascists and how their governments different from one another. (Hint: they all have economic differences:
1 Lehk 2018-08-08
fascism didn't kill 100 million people
1 pizzashill 2018-08-08
Fascism was also stopped by the rest of the world because fascism launched a war of world conquest in which they intended to exterminate multiple ethnic groups.
Every time I come to this sub and encounter you tards it becomes really clear how poorly educated you guys are.
1 trumplethinskins 2018-08-08
1 the_popcorn_pisser 2018-08-08
I love the bootlicker meme. I mean, I'd get it coming from anarchists but Tankies literally worship a government structure that literally controls every tiny aspect of their lives.
1 Kaladin_MemeBlessed 2018-08-08
You don't have to be a tankie to think fascists are useless
faggotsexcuse me wallmart americans1 trumplethinskins 2018-08-08
1 heavenlytoaster 2018-08-08
Death? Yeah licking boots is better than death and I'm not even a shoe fetishist.
1 trumplethinskins 2018-08-08
That's a low bar you live under there chief
1 Lindseyisagirlsname 2018-08-08
It's really not
1 hwerste 2018-08-08
Oh, man!
1 trumplethinskins 2018-08-08
Imagine reacting defensively to people making fun of fascists on the internet.
1 IllustriousQuail 2018-08-08
Jesus Christ. I can't wait for school to start again.
1 trumplethinskins 2018-08-08
You excited for the 7th grade sweaty?
1 theconceiver 2018-08-08
No wonder U.S. libtards are so deranged, desperate and salty atm.
1 pizzashill 2018-08-08
I mean, I can quote the anatomy of fascism if you want, nothing I said is factually incorrect.
1 theconceiver 2018-08-08
/r/whoosh
1 whenweriiide 2018-08-08
Hey don't be a fascist pls
1 CannabisCumshot69 2018-08-08
see look at the kind of bridges we can build with thoughtful and polite conversation
1 literallydontcaree 2018-08-08
I'm not allowed to tell you to kill yourself due to the rules :)
1 whenweriiide 2018-08-08
Hey don't be a fascist pls
1 rationalhuckleberry 2018-08-08
Ja. Now put on this friendship armband and get in line. De Fuhrer is coming!
1 CirqueDuFuder 2018-08-08
REEE kill middle America
1 Sarge_Ward 2018-08-08
This but entirely unironically
1 richmomz 2018-08-08
Good luck - they own most of the guns.
1 a_thumb_in_my_bum 2018-08-08
Fentanyl, sweaty
1 richmomz 2018-08-08
That's why we buy extra ammo.
1 a_thumb_in_my_bum 2018-08-08
āWeā ?
Ew, a poor person.
1 richmomz 2018-08-08
We're not poor, we just spend all our money on guns and banjos.
1 a_thumb_in_my_bum 2018-08-08
Is banjos code for Fentanyl?
1 Tobans 2018-08-08
Insh'allah
1 pizzashill 2018-08-08
TIL "people don't vote for you because of blatant racism" is the same as "kill middle America."
1 CirqueDuFuder 2018-08-08
No, this is about you in particular. It is full time job for you to rant about hating your family and people that live near you on Reddit.
1 pizzashill 2018-08-08
TIL "hating middle America" is "why should middle America have 2-3x the power simply because they live in middle America."
1 headasplodes 2018-08-08
A new low for you tbh
1 CucksLoveTrump 2018-08-08
Tyranny of the majority. Look it up. You have the time. Also maybe crack "Shattered" as well
1 pizzashill 2018-08-08
Can you explain to me why tyranny of the minority is better?
1 boyoyoyoyong 2018-08-08
Really, why should commiefornia and jew York decide what the nation does any more than the rest of america. The guy is arguing for states rights but apparently hasn't figured that out.
1 soyboyoyoyoyong 2018-08-08
TOPPEST KEK M8Y! Your wit is so impressive boyo, what hilarious hi-jinx will you come up with next?!?!!?
also post more pix greeny.
1 dramasexual 2018-08-08
excuse you, the correct name is The People's Gaypublic of Drugafornia.
1 ImJustaBagofHammers 2018-08-08
Even if that's true, the Uncle Tom and race traitor accusations don't help.
1 pizzashill 2018-08-08
Maybe, but I don't really see the point in respecting these people.
It's like the gay guys that vote republican, it doesn't even make sense.
1 ImJustaBagofHammers 2018-08-08
By attacking them like that you validate their belief that "Democrats are the real racists." and motivate them to continue voting Republican, partially out of spite.
1 pizzashill 2018-08-08
That's neat, they can vote against their own interests if they want, it's of no concern to me.
1 QueenOfTheIncels 2018-08-08
And who exactly would you vote for if you were going to vote in favor of your best interests? The decaying corpse of Elliot Rodger?
1 aGolfHipster 2018-08-08
So, you can determine what an individuals best interest is by looking at surface level, skin deep traits such as race or sexuality?
1 pizzashill 2018-08-08
You absolutely can, tbh. It's like when dumb ass rural white people elect conservatives.
Like do you unironically believe the GOP is good for them?
1 aGolfHipster 2018-08-08
I don't believe things like skin color determine what you want, how you think, what your principles are or what's best for you.
According to your world view, are there any scenarios where voting for conservatives is in someone's best interest?
1 pizzashill 2018-08-08
Sure, the only scenario is when you're rich, likely going to die within the next 40 years, and feel like fucking society over so you can have short-term profit.
1 aGolfHipster 2018-08-08
You basically described half of all the Bond villains.
1 pizzashill 2018-08-08
Who else benefits? Does the average man benefit from no environmental regulations, reduced education spending?
1 deere442 2018-08-08
the claim is that the average man benefits from an economy in which businesses do better i.e. less taxes.
I'm not saying it's correct but jesus christ did you pay attention in high school econ?
1 pizzashill 2018-08-08
This only makes sense if you look at things over very short time periods, the healthcare expenses alone would likely eat up any benefit an average person gets.
1 deere442 2018-08-08
??? how did you leap to "removal of all government-sponsored healthcare" from tax cuts. it's possible to cut taxes and adjust government spending in more than one way you know.
always with the zero substance pseud insults pizza. "you don't understand what's being discussed here" big retort.
go shave ur facial pubes, maybe not looking like a total NEET will give you the confidence to not be so aggressive all the time
1 pizzashill 2018-08-08
You understand environmental damage causes damage to public health, correct?
You understand the US has one of the worst healthcare systems on the planet, correct?
You understand that, for example, the areas getting polluted will mainly be poor areas, meaning these "average" men end up fucked over in the long term, correct?
1 Lindseyisagirlsname 2018-08-08
Well who else benefits? The farmers with their 18 billion dollar handout? First socialist president!
1 whatis0x6472616d61 2018-08-08
Keep fighting the good fight, champ. I'm on your side tbqh.
If those fags and negroids don't lern what's good for 'em soon I think we should only give them a percentage of a vote. Something like 60% the vote of a superiorly intelligent straight white male like yourself. That way they still feel represented but they can't fuck things up for the rest of the ~master race~ country. We can call it the 60% compromise or something.
1 UBIisLazy 2018-08-08
1 shallowm 2018-08-08
a
1 richmomz 2018-08-08
So I guess you think you know better than the minorities whatās best for them? That sounds a LOT like the arguments people used to make against emancipation and equal voting rights. Out of curiosity does the Klan supply your uniform or do you use your own bedsheets?
1 pizzashill 2018-08-08
I know what's better for most people than they do, because most people are retarded.
I know what's better for rural whites too.
1 richmomz 2018-08-08
So because you think you know better than black people, and you think you know better than most people in general because they're retarded, that means you think black people are retarded?
Are you sure you're not a Nazi?
1 pizzashill 2018-08-08
I think most black people are retarded, just like most white people are retarded.
1 Dales_Dead_Bugmen 2018-08-08
Takes one to know one tard.
1 CucksLoveTrump 2018-08-08
Says the fuckin NEET
1 pizzashill 2018-08-08
Can you provide some proof I'm a "NEET."
1 hwerste 2018-08-08
You fucking what? XD People who have something productive to do don't dick around FUCKING r/DRAMA ARGUING ABOUT POLITICS!
1 pizzashill 2018-08-08
So that's a no on the proof?
1 hwerste 2018-08-08
Yeah, all fucking possible evidence you wasting your time arguing with people who are fucking obvious trolls suggest you are fucking NEET. But even if somebody would bring video proof you would say "eh, it could be fabricated" or something equally retarded. Fucking edgy kid
1 pizzashill 2018-08-08
So to be clear, that's a no on the proof?
1 hwerste 2018-08-08
FUCKING GENIUS! 10/10, perfect debating skills, would buy books
1 pizzashill 2018-08-08
Sorry, was that no proof or proof?
1 IllustriousQuail 2018-08-08
^ This comment thread. Where you posted dozens of replies during normal business/school hours.
1 pizzashill 2018-08-08
So your proof I'm a "neet" is I posted on Reddit, and to be clear here, you believe the only way I could be posting on Reddit during these hours is if I'm a NEET?
That's the argument you want to go with, and you see no glaring holes in said argument?
1 UBIisLazy 2018-08-08
Your face.
1 shallowm 2018-08-08
Are you in education, employment, or training?
1 pizzashill 2018-08-08
I'm not answering a single question. I'm taking a stand here, if you make a claim online, make sure you can support it.
1 the_popcorn_pisser 2018-08-08
> it's of no concern to me.
> proceeds to REEEEE all over every politics thread.
1 Pinksters 2018-08-08
Translation: If republican voting gays weren't so stupid, they would vote democrat
Condescension will surely make them see the light!
1 ImJustaBagofHammers 2018-08-08
You replied to the wrong person.
1 Pinksters 2018-08-08
Nope.
Replying to pizza is a loss cause.
You seemed to catch the irony of their statements though.
1 QueenOfTheIncels 2018-08-08
It makes perfect sense, most of them are Double-Income No Kids and don't want to funnel their hard-earned money back into a system for a bunch of dumb fucking straights who breed like bunnies and suck off the government teat to funnel their inbred little shits.
1 pizzashill 2018-08-08
I'm just gonna assume you're a troll.
1 QueenOfTheIncels 2018-08-08
And I'm just gonna assume you're one ugly ass motherfucker, oh wait a second, I'm not gonna "assume it," I'm gonna know it to be fact
You know this soyboy shit won't help you get pussy, right?
1 pizzashill 2018-08-08
It's not often I encounter someone with this low of an intelligence level.
even for /r/drama you take the cake.
1 QueenOfTheIncels 2018-08-08
It's not often I encounter someone so goddamn ass ugly
even for /r/drama you take the cake
1 pizzashill 2018-08-08
Yawn.
1 QueenOfTheIncels 2018-08-08
"Even I know I'm ugly as sin so I'm not even going to bother arguing with this bitch"
1 pizzashill 2018-08-08
It's just not entertaining, it's kind of like when an angry teenager runs out of real arguments and starts saying things he thinks will hurt you, because in his tiny world, if someone called him fat, or ugly, that'd hurt him.
You thinking that spam linking my picture and calling me ugly will somehow impact me is more telling of yourself than anything.
You're insecure, so by lashing out in this way you bolster your own low self-esteem.
It's all very basic, really. You operate in the way same a 14 year old bully does, but sadly this isn't high school, so it's an exercise in impotence.
1 QueenOfTheIncels 2018-08-08
Nigga you are in /r/drama, shut the fuck up about "14 year old bullies"
1 shallowm 2018-08-08
You were put down, in the future please refrain from discussing subjects you have no education in.
1 soyboyoyoyoyong 2018-08-08
holy fuck you're so triggered by the pizza boy ahahaha
1 Verlieren_ist_Unser 2018-08-08
Come visit us over at r/RightwingLGBT and try to change our mind! Theyāll love you!
1 pizzashill 2018-08-08
rightwingLGBT has like a grand total of 3 gay people.
1 Verlieren_ist_Unser 2018-08-08
And donāt you forget it faggot
1 pizzashill 2018-08-08
How many times are you guys gonna get banned from the Republican convention before you realize they don't want you.
1 Verlieren_ist_Unser 2018-08-08
Since most of them probably donāt identify as Republican and just like trump, Iām sure they donāt give a flying fuck.
So when are you gonna show us your bussy?
1 pizzashill 2018-08-08
Why would they like Trump? Who is more valuable to the Trumpster, evangelical cucks or the gays?
1 Verlieren_ist_Unser 2018-08-08
Lots of different individual reasons. Mine wonāt be theirs.
Head on over and ask them yourself fag
1 pizzashill 2018-08-08
I don't think I'd get a coherent reason from them, in the same way I'm not going to get a coherent reason from any Trumptard.
1 Verlieren_ist_Unser 2018-08-08
because ur a beacon of coherence.
Kay buddy. Keep livin the delusion.
1 pizzashill 2018-08-08
I can give coherent reasons for everything I believe. Trumptards on the other hand? Not so much, most of the time they just repeat Trumpian talking points riddled with literal fake news.
1 polddit 2018-08-08
lmao /u/pizzashill is one independent womyn who dont need no man ripping his heart out away from going straight Elliot Rodger on some hoes.
You can just see the depression in his eyes.
I would feel bad for him if he wasn't such an irritating autist.
1 UBIisLazy 2018-08-08
YIKES.
1 Pepperglue 2018-08-08
Same thing with White people and Asians voting D then?
1 pizzashill 2018-08-08
What anti white/Asian policy is the DNC engaged in?
1 Pepperglue 2018-08-08
Nothing serious that I know of, but they do pander to a population that is generally hostile to Asians.
1 pizzashill 2018-08-08
lol?
1 Pepperglue 2018-08-08
lol
1 solowng 2018-08-08
Eh, black people vote Democrat because that's where the path to power was and is in most places they live, and as Democrats have done worse with whites the black vote has become more important to them (critically so in the South and Midwest) that it is in fact over-represented within the Democratic Party. Even if they wanted to the GOP has no way of offering that kind of power to black voters within its own party.
Also the GOP is historically a party of the northeast and west while the Democrats are historically the party of the south so it's hardly surprising that the latter does a much better job of outreach at the local level. Just compare the two parties' presidential candidates from the last 50 years for example and try to guess which ones have had better opportunities to make connections with the black community at the local and state levels. This is also why George W Bush did better with Hispanic voters than Mitt Romney: it's a lot easier to connect with Hispanics as the governor of Texas versus being the governor of Massachusetts.
1 QueenOfTheIncels 2018-08-08
Hey fuck face, the Democrats preach about how "tolerant" they are, but that means fuck-all when you factor in how much their policies have destroyed the black community.
Welfare and the current state of school systems have created entire cities of blacks who have no marketable skills and can't pass basic literacy tests. The Democrats did that, no the Republicans.
Can you explain to me how exactly the Republicans are "racist as shit?" Can you tell me what they've done that's been racist, please?
1 pizzashill 2018-08-08
I'm dead serious when I say this is the most retarded comment I've ever seen anyone write on Reddit.
I'll ignore the racist rants about how democrats have "destroyed the black community" because black people still have issues with poverty, and get right to this absurd shit:
Racial voter suppression.
Trump linking fake crime statistics on twitter to attack black Americans.
The southern strategy, in which Republicans outright admitted to:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_strategy
Do I really need to keep going here?
1 QueenOfTheIncels 2018-08-08
Back at you, you oogly ass motherfucker.
"Still have issues with poverty." Hey white boy, that didn't happen out of thin air, it came of Democrat policies.
Ima ignore the shit you said about Trump because I understand that your Trump Derangement Syndrome is too deeply embedded in your inbred caveman skull for you to be reasoned with on anything having to do with Daddy, so let's just jump to this bullshit.
YOU HAD TO GO BACK FIFTY YEARS TO MAKE ANY SEMBLANCE OF AN ARGUMENT. NEWSFLASH, FUCK FACE, BOTH PARTIES WERE RACIST AS SHIT BACK THEN, AS EVIDENCED BY THE FACT THAT LBJ SAID "I'LL HAVE THOSE NIGGERS VOTING DEMOCRATIC FOR THE NEXT 200 YEARS"
You are so fucking stupid, you needle dicked mayo ass soyboy.
1 pizzashill 2018-08-08
TIL modern racial voter suppression and Trump linking fake crime stats is "50 years ago."
And you top it off with a nice fake LBJ quote.
calls someone stupid.
repeats fake news about LBJ.
Can't make this shit up.
1 QueenOfTheIncels 2018-08-08
Right, except it's not fake, and under the "Attributed" section of that page, the word "nigger" is used in multiple quotes.
1 pizzashill 2018-08-08
It's literally fake, there is no proof or evidence he ever said it:
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/lbj-voting-democratic/
1 QueenOfTheIncels 2018-08-08
Snopes is not a reliable source.
Here is a literal recording of LBJ saying "nigger," in addition to other racial slurs, while talking about people as merely voters and not people. While there's no recording of the quote in question, it comes from a reliable source and sounds completely plausible based on countless other recordings of him saying similar shit about "niggers." Blacks were pawns in his plans for the party's dominance.
But please, cuck, keep talking about those "racist Republicans" and keep being a useful idiot for the DNC.
1 pizzashill 2018-08-08
And stopped reading. You have 1 reply to point out what in that snopes article is factually incorrect before you're dismissed.
1 QueenOfTheIncels 2018-08-08
UNPROVEN
I read the fucking link, unlike you who just Googled and shared, and then I provided audio of him saying something similar.
1 pizzashill 2018-08-08
Nobody denied that LBJ had used the n word before. That doesn't mean the quote you're claiming he said came from him, and the fact you think this is how logic works reveals you to be a complete moron.
So again - there is no proof that he ever said what you quoted.
To put this into perspective and show exactly how dumb you are.
I've heard you like fucking babies. My proof?
Right here, you used the word fucking.
1 QueenOfTheIncels 2018-08-08
You were put down, in the future please refrain from discussing subjects you have no education in
1 pizzashill 2018-08-08
Exactly what I thought bitch, take a seat.
1 the_popcorn_pisser 2018-08-08
Unproven is not the same as fake lmao. That's like you guys repeating "TRUMP IS A PEDO" over some magical twist in his words.
1 pizzashill 2018-08-08
Literally no evidence or proof he said it.
1 rationalhuckleberry 2018-08-08
https://youtu.be/r1rIDmDWSms
But was he a racist?
1 pizzashill 2018-08-08
Probably? Still doesn't mean he said what was quoted, though, now does it?
1 rationalhuckleberry 2018-08-08
No no. I just want to know.
If there are no records of Trump dropping the hard R, yet heās a racist; yet there is one of LBJ. Then is LBJ a racist? Yes or no?
Iām not bickering about the 200 years nonsense. Does LBJ dropping the hard R make him a racist, yes or no?
1 pizzashill 2018-08-08
Trump literally linked fake racial crime statistics on twitter.
1 rationalhuckleberry 2018-08-08
Yes or no.
1 pizzashill 2018-08-08
Jesus Christ, are you illiterate?
1 rationalhuckleberry 2018-08-08
No, just enjoying this.
Was LBJ a racist? Give me that yes or no answer Pizza.
1 pizzashill 2018-08-08
I'm done with you, you literally can't read.
1 rationalhuckleberry 2018-08-08
Lol. Easy win.
1 shallowm 2018-08-08
You were put down, in the future please refrain from discussing subjects you have no education in.
1 Nofilterall 2018-08-08
snopes lol i mean are you even trying to be right?
1 pizzashill 2018-08-08
You have 1 reply to point out what in that article is factually incorrect before being dismissed.
1 QueenOfTheIncels 2018-08-08
Or what, chief?
1 pizzashill 2018-08-08
Dismissed.
1 QueenOfTheIncels 2018-08-08
Just like women have dismissed your ugly ass, huh?
1 pizzashill 2018-08-08
I wish women did dismiss me tbh, I keep finding myself in relationships.
1 QueenOfTheIncels 2018-08-08
Definitely, no woman could resist this stonecold fox, especially when you add in the 24/7 nonstop posting to /r/drama, what a catch you must be
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1 pizzashill 2018-08-08
Dude, take it up with them, foids like me for some reason.
1 QueenOfTheIncels 2018-08-08
"STFU bitch IRL I get tons of pussy and I don't even like women"
1 pizzashill 2018-08-08
Dude I try my hardest to send them running but they always think I'm joking.
1 QueenOfTheIncels 2018-08-08
How do they find you in the basement?
1 pizzashill 2018-08-08
I like to leave a trail of pizza crust from the driveway to the side door.
1 rationalhuckleberry 2018-08-08
TIL fbi stats showing blacks commit the most crime is āracistā and āfake.ā
1 pizzashill 2018-08-08
TIL you're a complete moron, he didn't link FBI stats, he linked literal fake stats:
Nice try though.
1 rationalhuckleberry 2018-08-08
I never referenced Trumps stats. I referenced the FBI.
Hey, is the FBI racist?
1 pizzashill 2018-08-08
Are you retarded?
I said Trump linked fake crime statistics.
You then responded and tried to claim he linked FBI stats.
Who in the actual fuck do you think you're fooling?
1 rationalhuckleberry 2018-08-08
Quote me where I said he linked FBI stats.
Quote me.
Because I think you took my statement out of context.
Is the FBI racist?
1 pizzashill 2018-08-08
???
Here is what I said:
To which you responded:
Again, are you trolling? Who do you think you're fooling here?
When did I accuse the FBI of being racist?
1 rationalhuckleberry 2018-08-08
I never said you accused them. I just asked a question, you illiterate incel.
1 pizzashill 2018-08-08
You're more incoherent than Donald Trump.
1 rationalhuckleberry 2018-08-08
No, that award goes to you š
1 Googlaloo 2018-08-08
Ew, another white person trying to win brownie points with minorities
News flash, whitey: I don't care
1 pizzashill 2018-08-08
I don't give a shit about youths.
1 Power_Incarnate 2018-08-08
You should start proofreading your own comments then.
1 Karlore473 2018-08-08
are you smart enough to google which parties have been in control over the past 30 or 40 years and see it was in fact both democrats and republicans doing it
1 shallowm 2018-08-08
a
1 Still_youngjustice 2018-08-08
you realize Trump could never have gotten elected without the 2012 Obama voter switched to Trump in 2016? do you reaaalllyyy think that many people turned racist in 4 years? something to think about.
1 pizzashill 2018-08-08
I think there's a large and growing amount of evidence that racial anxiety and fears of a declining white majority turned people towards the populist right.
Do you agree this research exists?
1 Still_youngjustice 2018-08-08
im sure you can find some bullshit studies exaggerating figures that make up about one percent of one percent of the population. do yo you deny that former Obama voters are the reason Trump is in office right now?
1 pizzashill 2018-08-08
Do you think former Obama voters are immune to racial anxiety and fears of white decline?
Also, what evidence do you have said studies are "bullshit."
1 Still_youngjustice 2018-08-08
because its very easy to lump people in as 'white supremacists' for arguing against popular black culture which glorifies criminality.
lets try using our own brains here for a second, did millions of Obama voters become racist in 4 years, or did Trump's economic and immigration policy's appeal to them because the DNC promised change and delivered bullshit.
1 pizzashill 2018-08-08
This isn't a valid reason for why the studies are "bullshit" and I'm not sure how you think it is.
Not only that, but the studies don't even look at this. Serious question, have you ever read these papers?
Considering exit polls showed voters worried about the economy voted Hillary Clinton, no, the idea economics is why the least intelligent citizens in our society voted Trump seems questionable.
Better yet, can you explain to me how Trump's economic illiteracy is going to help them?
1 Still_youngjustice 2018-08-08
I have read articles posted on /r/politics claiming an increase in 'white nationalism' and ommissions in the specifics of their tells me its bullshit. feel free to link me something that proves me wrong tho.
polls and especially exit polls in the 2016 election have been proven so far from reality I'm surprised you have the balls to cite them. didn't the exit polls also not match up with the results for much of the democratic primary?
lol virtually full employment, over 4% GDP growth, and I personally got a raise from his tax cut. For an economic illiterate something seems to be working. either way, as Michael Moore of all people correctly predicted, voting for Trump was a 'fuck you' to Washington, because the Obama admin SCREWED their voters.
promising change, when pretty much all the changes were negative, telling us to 'see something, say something' then deleting whistleblower protections from their website when actual whistleblowers emerge, expanding the drone strike program, fucking healthcare in the ass even harder, but no, it must be racism.
1 pizzashill 2018-08-08
So that's you, right now, admitting that you haven't read any of these papers? I need you to say yes or no before I link them.
A) Polls were literally within margin of error in 2016 and as accurate as they've been historically, which is pretty accurate:
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-polls-are-all-right/
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/trump-is-just-a-normal-polling-error-behind-clinton/
B) National exit polls are fairly accurate, and even if they weren't, there's no way they'd this far off. Trump voters did not vote based on economic facotrs.
A) Long term trend:
https://www.macrotrends.net/1377/u6-unemployment-rate
B) Quarterly GDP growth does not = annual GDP growth.
This is wild. You're citing long term trends as evidence Trump has done something and claiming a man that has started multiple trade wars is not an economic illiterate.
You understand Trump doesn't even understand what GDP is, right?
Imagine being so retarded you think Obama made healthcare worse when in reality it was a bandaid on a festering wound that slowed healthcare costs and insured more people.
Exactly as I suspected - you're just a profoundly misinformed person with not even a basic comprehension of what you're talking about.
1 Still_youngjustice 2018-08-08
I read the articles posted on/r/politics making the same claims you are now, and they were pretty easily debunked as being extremely flexible with the term 'white nationalist' so I don't know if they are these same wonderful 'papers' you still havn't linked, but again feel free to do so.
on a national scale, for the actual battleground states that matter they were wildly inaccurate. but sure lets give credibility back to the institutions that utterly failed in 2016 because theyve done so much to deserve it
depends what you mean by economic factors, I think Michael Moore of all people said it best.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxDRqeuLNag
again, seems a lot more believable then millions of Obama voters turning racist, a point you still havn't addressed really.
unemployment stagnated in Q3/Q4 of 2016 and immediately dropped sharply right after Trump took office. Also, even if its jsut continuing a trend, a positive trend is still helpinghelping the economy, derp. something you claim he would do the opposite of.
please show me where I ever said it did. O only crested 4% quarterly once in 8 years, Trump has already hit it, and 2017 was in the 3's I believe? seems pretty decent to me.
You understand Trump doesn't even understand what GDP is, right?
except the markets aren't suffering nearly as much as the left wishes they would from these trade wars. my friend is pretty into trading and he says it doesn't make sense but the trade war isn't really hurting us, just a lot of uncertainty.
oh lets get rid of charging more for preexisting conditions, and then wonder why no one buys any health insurance until AFTER they have a condition. I know! we just force them to get insurance with a fine! oh, the fine wasn't nearly enough, so premiums will still shoot up 20-40% ? some bandaid. good job, you've shown how much you understand economics. You're like the stereotypical 'reddit smart'
1 pizzashill 2018-08-08
Copy paste where I used the term white nationalist.
As for papers:
https://academic.oup.com/sf/advance-article-abstract/doi/10.1093/sf/soy046/5002999?redirectedFrom=fulltext
http://groups.psych.northwestern.edu/spcl/documents/Craig_RichesonPS_updatedversion.pdf
A) National polls are all that matters, in reality.
B) Even in the "battleground states" they were fairly accurate and near or within margin of error.
No he didn't, the man is a moron, and anyone voting for Trump for his listed reasons is highly misinformed.
It wasn't millions, and I'm baffled as to where you got that number from.
https://www.bloomberg.com/quicktake/full-employment
http://fortune.com/2016/02/05/full-employment/
Again, you reveal yourself to be clueless.
Ignoring the fact the president has little to nothing to do with the economy outside of idiots like you looking for scapegoats, here's annual GDP growth dating back years:
https://www.statista.com/statistics/188185/percent-chance-from-preceding-period-in-real-gdp-in-the-us/
The idea Trump has done something to the economy is just hilarious.
LOL, trade war isn't hurting us. You are out of your fucking mind, do you even know what the long-term impacts of a trade war are?
Dafuq are you even talking about you moron. What do you think the mandate was for?
I like how you cite "20-40% premium increases" ignoring the fact that was slower than pre obamacare:
https://www.factcheck.org/2015/02/slower-premium-growth-under-obama/
Was Obamacare perfect? No, but it did improve the healthcare system, irrefutably. Single payer is the best solution, but Trump and the republicans aren't competent enough to grasp that.
1 Still_youngjustice 2018-08-08
I'll give this a fair response when I have time to break it down properly. but the mandate didn't outweigh the cost of having health insurance when you're healthy so premiums still shot up, when this was supposed to make things cheaper for most people overall, to make up for the people biting the fine and not paying into the system.
this is much the problem with most liberal policies, doesn't account for people being shitty and taking advantage of a good-intentioned system.
1 pizzashill 2018-08-08
If premiums grow at 55% and 78% in the years before the ACA, and grow by 40% in the years after, did it increase or decrease costs?
1 Still_youngjustice 2018-08-08
lololol its still an increase to costs, just at a slower rate. guessing you aren't an accounting major.
1 pizzashill 2018-08-08
I mean, I suspect you aren't if you claim decreasing premium growth is not the same as reducing overall costs.
It even reduced healthcare costs.
The objective fact is the ACA reduced costs.
1 Still_youngjustice 2018-08-08
the premium growth as in its still growing, just at a slower rate. the objective fact is that the majority of American's had their healthcare costs go up, if there were savings, please show me who got them.
1 pizzashill 2018-08-08
Slowing the rate of premium growth is the exact same as reducing costs...
How can you not comprehend this?
The objective fact is the ACA slowed the growth of health care costs, meaning the majority of America did not have their healthcare costs go up. When looking at statistics like this you have to compare what they would have been with no ACA. This is pretty basic stuff.
1 Still_youngjustice 2018-08-08
thats not the point, Obama campaigned his health plan under the premise that American's premiums would go down not up.
either way, turns out your claim is based on flawed data
https://ballotpedia.org/Fact_check/Did_healthcare_premiums_for_families_double_under_George_W._Bush%3F
what a surprise, more bullshit studies, almost predictable at this point.
1 pizzashill 2018-08-08
Again, the fact you can't comprehend how this works is weird. If premium growth was slower/lower post ACA, it means premiums are lower than they would have been without the bill, which is the exact same as reducing premiums.
No, it's not. Your own article doesn't even deny premiums increased faster before the ACA, it's saying Bernie Sanders exaggerated the rate at which they increased before the ACA.
The rate of premium growth irrefutably slowed post ACA:
https://www.healthinsurance.org/blog/2016/07/29/health-premiums-after-obamacare-theyre-lower/
What? You've yet to point out a single study that was "bullshit" and you've yet to even refute my point, you linked something literally confirming my argument and thought it refuted it.
You are a special kind of uh, retard.
1 Still_youngjustice 2018-08-08
if someone's premiums go up $100 dollars under Bush, and then only $40 under O, did their costs increase or decrease under O?
its ok, I break things down Barney style for the inner city kids I tutor all the time, I can make it simpler if you need to, but do you see where you're fucking up here?
1 pizzashill 2018-08-08
This is a prime example of the dunning kruger effect.
If their premiums would have gone up 120 dollars without the ACA, they've saved money. The fact you can't comprehend this and are claiming to tutor people is alarming.
1 Still_youngjustice 2018-08-08
but did Obama not promise that he would decrease the cost of healthcare compared to as it was at that time, not if it had continued to rise at that same rate? which btw isn't as disparate as you're claiming.
https://ballotpedia.org/Fact_check/Did_healthcare_premiums_for_families_double_under_George_W._Bush%3F
1 pizzashill 2018-08-08
Are you actually this learning disabled? It's literally impossible to decrease the cost of healthcare in any other way with how inflation works.
Every time I encounter one of you people the fact Trump managed to get elected makes way more sense. You guys like don't even understand numbers on a basic level.
1 Still_youngjustice 2018-08-08
obviously we are accounting for inflation genius, interesting how you chose to leave it out when comparing Bush numbers to Obama, as my previous link showed, when accounting for inflation, Premiums did not go up twice as much under Bush as Obama.
1 pizzashill 2018-08-08
Dude, the premiums still grew faster before the ACA, that was the point.
How are you not comprehending this?
1 Still_youngjustice 2018-08-08
I understand what you're saying but it doesn't make logical sense with how insurance works. good economics is often bad politics. Healthcare reform was coming, it was a hot button for the last two elections, I think Obamacare was a very poor substitute. since you're so insistent that premiums would have rose much higher without Obamacare, could you explain how? because while im still looking this up, seems also clear to me that there could have been other economic factors raising or lowering costs, ie inflation which you had left out in your earlier statistics.
1 pizzashill 2018-08-08
You need to understand how health care costs work and why higher insurance rates tend to = lower overall healthcare costs.
The reason you see those absurdly high healthcare bills in the US isn't because the hospital actually expects to get that much from you.
So someone with insurance might show up to the hospital, the hospital is in their network, they might bill you 25 thousand dollars and hope to see maybe 10 thousand dollars.
Now when someone isn't insured, they might get that same bill, and because they have no bargaining power/insurance they're on the hook for the full 25 thousand dollars.
Basically, the more people that have insurance, the less strain is put on the hospitals that by law are required to give you care if you need it, the lower overall costs are.
Sure, if you want to argue the ACA could have been better, you aren't wrong. Even people that support the ACA know it wasn't perfect, the intent was to get the ball rolling. Hillary Clinton, for example, in her private speeches discusses the ACA strategy:
1 Still_youngjustice 2018-08-08
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxDRqeuLNag
1 pizzashill 2018-08-08
Tip: when you find yourself agreeing with anything Moore says, you're probably retarded.
1 Still_youngjustice 2018-08-08
except the numbers don't debunk it at all. Trump doesn't win the white house without flipping massive amounts of former Obama voters, change my mind.
1 pizzashill 2018-08-08
What are you even smoking, lol. He didn't flip many voters, turnout, demographic shifts, and delusion explain Trump, nothing else.
1 Still_youngjustice 2018-08-08
no he just flipped multiple states that were safely blue in 2012, but not the actual voters that were in them. great argument.
nothing else, no one could possibly be disenfranchised after being promised change and getting lied to.
1 pizzashill 2018-08-08
Look, I get you aren't very informed on most of these subjects, and you kind of just base your opinions on emotion rather than formulating them based on what the reality is, but my god.
The electoral college is winner take all. There is no such thing as a "blue wall" or a "red wall." At most even the safest of "walls" are a few percentage points away from flipping.
The election came down to about 80 thousand votes in those states.
https://www.weeklystandard.com/john-mccormack/the-election-came-down-to-77-744-votes-in-pennsylvania-wisconsin-and-michigan-updated
The idea Donald Trump flipped "millions of voters" is dishonest at best, willful ignorance at worst.
Or, you know, rural people are perpetually enraged morons that have little to no understanding of how the world works. If the GOP wants to tie their noose with these voters, more power to them. I'll stick with the majority of the country and I'll take a long-term demographics victory over a short-term rural moron victory.
1 Still_youngjustice 2018-08-08
those are only three of the states he flipped. disingenuous to leave all the other districts and states he flipped from 2012, on the go right now so I can't look up the sources, but the 'millions flipped' isn't so unfounded as you're making out.
its not emotion to say that Obama reneged on his campaign promises.
1 pizzashill 2018-08-08
You understand the other states he "flipped" are swing states, correct, as in they can go either way depending on the election?
Oh man, you mean to tell me someone running for political office in the united states of America made promises he couldn't possibly keep once in office?
Next you're going to tell me the sky is blue, grass is green, and Donald Trump has a learning disability.
1 Still_youngjustice 2018-08-08
ad hominem fallacy to a tee. don't argue with the points he's saying just say he's a retard. you're a meme.
1 watermark02 2018-08-08
The DEMOCRAT plantation
1 rationalhuckleberry 2018-08-08
Wait I thought it was AUNT GEMINA
1 Van-Diemen 2018-08-08
Damn, is pinging allowed agai-
Oh for fucks sake.
1 Neon_needles 2018-08-08
Lol at tankie voting brigade.
Just cuz you mass downvote a reddit news thread doesnt mean it already made the rounds on Twitter and other social media. Why not just accept it and be like "Yeah, there is retards of all political flavors."?
1 watermark02 2018-08-08
I tried to edit this image but gave up
https://imgur.com/jlzFSdf
Replace "mice" with "tankies"
1 HailSanta2512 2018-08-08
The only rats that'll flock to a sinking ship
1 richmomz 2018-08-08
Not so - else all of these idiots would have moved to Venezuela or North Korea by now. When others point at the sinking ship they will just claim āit wasnāt a real boatā or āreal buoyancy has never been tried.ā
1 watermark02 2018-08-08
Like we just spent the 20th century fighting off accusations that socialism was the same thing as communism
Then the minute the socialist movement actually starts going somewhere in America these idiots are like "Uhhh wait that's wrong, we actually do worship dictators".
Castro and Tito are like your gateway dictators, no real . Then your like "Hey Lenin had a few good points here", next thing you know your reading Mao's little red book and underneath a Stalin poster
1 rationalhuckleberry 2018-08-08
The best part is when you realize if the proggies sink the good ship Democrat we are going back to 1908.
1 sparingchanges 2018-08-08
This is my favorite comment of the month
1 Zeriell 2018-08-08
The problem seems to be that moderation is not very sexy. Everyone can agree that 70f is generally a better temperature than 110f or -50f, but it doesn't work in politics for some reason. "We need to rally for our right to be boring!" just doesn't get out the vote.
1 Lehk 2018-08-08
you see, Socialism IS Communism.
1 literallydontcaree 2018-08-08
Candace Owens is one of them. She's dogshit fucking stupid.
https://youtu.be/nJRAiU6BY-A
1 Neon_needles 2018-08-08
MAYO OUT
1 literallydontcaree 2018-08-08
The mayos are the ones that point at her as a token.
1 Neon_needles 2018-08-08
...OK? Not sure what that has to do with anything, but alright. The fact that you insulted a proud POC woman disgusts me, you bigot. I'm banning you from /r/news.
1 literallydontcaree 2018-08-08
I think you confused yourself trying to be funny and now you're the mayo.
1 the_popcorn_pisser 2018-08-08
Ah, of course you'd try to diminish and silence a minority just because she is your political polar opposite. Sad.
1 literallydontcaree 2018-08-08
You're trying too hard dude.
1 Neon_needles 2018-08-08
š¤£
1 MooseHeckler 2018-08-08
No u.
1 Pickled_Kagura 2018-08-08
Candace Bigsby is an honorary mayo so we need to kick her out too.
1 -absolutego- 2018-08-08
The fact that the same people who railed against this woman when she was promoting Social Autopsy hold her up as some kind of paragon of free speech now will never not be funny.
1 Pickled_Kagura 2018-08-08
Don't insult dog shit.
1 Bick_Bickerson 2018-08-08
You do realize that Charlie Kirk started a "Professor watch list" for people to doxx college professors on so that this exact type of shit would happen to them?
Kirk got a taste of his own medicine. How anyone can sympathize with him over the exact same thing he encouraged others to do is absolutely beyond me.
1 Neon_needles 2018-08-08
Lol who cares?
1 I_DRINK_TO_FORGET 2018-08-08
How exactly does one 'doxx' a public figure using their real name? Are you retarded?
1 Bick_Bickerson 2018-08-08
It was publishing their home addresses so random people would go harass and threaten them, which they did, you ignorant fuck.
1 Still_youngjustice 2018-08-08
going need a source there sport.
1 Bick_Bickerson 2018-08-08
Look it up you little cunt
1 Still_youngjustice 2018-08-08
not how this works boyo. you made the claim its on you to prove it if you want anyone to believe it. then again your attitude tells me you're really just angry you can't get laid.
1 Bick_Bickerson 2018-08-08
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Professor_Watchlist
There, now please admit that I'm right.
I'm just joking - I know you won't do that, you altright incel queer.
1 Still_youngjustice 2018-08-08
it doesn't say anything about home addresses you fricking psycho moron.
from your own source. smh. maybe thats why you can't get laid, retards shouldn't breed anyways
1 Bick_Bickerson 2018-08-08
https://www.cnn.com/2017/12/21/us/university-professors-free-speech-online-hate-threats/index.html
Stupid. You lose.
1 Still_youngjustice 2018-08-08
where does it say it listed their home addresses you disingenuous fuck
1 Bick_Bickerson 2018-08-08
Where do you think they got the directives to harass them you lying scumbag?
1 Still_youngjustice 2018-08-08
have you ever heard the term, 'moving goalposts'? you claimed that CHarlie Kirk was listing home addresses of Professors, were you not?
1 Bick_Bickerson 2018-08-08
Sure, let's move the goalposts to "Charlie Kirk led a harassment campaign against teachers".
1 Still_youngjustice 2018-08-08
and I can follow back with, 'some extremists abused a website made by Charlie Kirk, which was designed to protect conservative students from biased professors'
are you against ratemyteacher.com as well? people were harassed for reviews on their as well.
1 Bick_Bickerson 2018-08-08
That's a lie. If you have to lie, you lose.
1 Still_youngjustice 2018-08-08
its not about winning or losing, its discovering the facts. the facts are that is what Charlie Kirk claimed in its design. unless you can find proof showing otherwise, the only one lying or making baseless accusations is you.
1 Bick_Bickerson 2018-08-08
No, the facts are about what happened. He knew exactly what he was doing, and if you're going to continue pretending that he was innocent in the outcome then you're as big a liar as your dipshit retard president.
1 Still_youngjustice 2018-08-08
this is the part that you are insisting but can't prove. I'm not 'pretending' he's innocent, under a court of law there is absolutely nothing you can prove he did maliciously in this case. Are you denying there are liberally biased professors?
1 Bick_Bickerson 2018-08-08
No, I'm not denying that. Most educated people are liberally biased. Conservatives, and people like you who fall for the plausible deniability line like a bunch of fucking rubes, tend to not be very well educated or intelligent.
1 Still_youngjustice 2018-08-08
aw its cute you're still trying to be angry. Liberals tend to need to belong to a group, to fall back on because they can't stand on their own. Also why they fall apart in individual debates, much like you are right now.
all that education on the left, yet all the small business owners are on the right? Probably why you need to make up boogeymen to fight, you aren't contributing anything worthwhile otherwise.
so since you have no response, Im taking it as an admittal that you actually have no proof of your initial claims. what a surprise.
1 Bick_Bickerson 2018-08-08
A lie.
These aren't made up boogeymen. Our country is being run by corrupt, evil fucks right now. It would almost be funny if it wasn't so infuriating that the right has become so fucking oblivious to it.
I win, you lose. Too bad, cry more.
1 Still_youngjustice 2018-08-08
https://www.americanexpress.com/us/small-business/openforum/articles/which-political-party-do-small-business-owners-identify-with-the-most/
the plurality are conservative, dipshit. keep trying, its funny how you keep making yourself look like a meme about deranged liberals.
1 Bick_Bickerson 2018-08-08
39 percent is not even close to "all" you lying piece of cancerous shit. Fuck off and die.
1 Still_youngjustice 2018-08-08
lool if thats the best hyperbole you can call me on I think Im doing ok, just like you said that being educated = liberal. considering Democratic business owners are the clear minority my original point still stands. all that education, but no balls to actually make something yourself. much easier to rage against your repressed pussification anonymously online
1 Bick_Bickerson 2018-08-08
I win, you lose, cry more faggot
1 Still_youngjustice 2018-08-08
whatever you say big boy, its going to be a long 6 years for you huh
1 Bick_Bickerson 2018-08-08
Cry. More.
1 Still_youngjustice 2018-08-08
aww, out of arguments, thats cute. bless your heart.
1 Bick_Bickerson 2018-08-08
I win, you lose, keep crying snowflake
1 Still_youngjustice 2018-08-08
you know this is why we think you're all mentally challenged right?
1 Bick_Bickerson 2018-08-08
I win, you lose
1 Still_youngjustice 2018-08-08
sure you do buddy, just like you won the election and the next one
1 Bick_Bickerson 2018-08-08
I win, you lose
1 Still_youngjustice 2018-08-08
as long as you feel like a winner thats what counts big guy!
1 Bick_Bickerson 2018-08-08
I win, you lose.
1 Still_youngjustice 2018-08-08
then why are you so worried about convincing me?
1 Bick_Bickerson 2018-08-08
I win, you lose.
1 Still_youngjustice 2018-08-08
broken record tactic, very effective.
1 Bick_Bickerson 2018-08-08
I win, you lose
1 Still_youngjustice 2018-08-08
...
1 Bick_Bickerson 2018-08-08
I win, you lose
1 Still_youngjustice 2018-08-08
....?
1 Bick_Bickerson 2018-08-08
I win, you lose
1 Still_youngjustice 2018-08-08
oh you're still on this ok
1 Bick_Bickerson 2018-08-08
I win, you lose
1 Still_youngjustice 2018-08-08
say it again, maybe this time it'll be true.
1 Bick_Bickerson 2018-08-08
I win, you lose
1 Still_youngjustice 2018-08-08
why do you keep repeating this?
1 Bick_Bickerson 2018-08-08
I win you lose
1 Still_youngjustice 2018-08-08
not embarrassed yet? or just realllly want this to be your last word
1 Bick_Bickerson 2018-08-08
I win, you lose.
1 Still_youngjustice 2018-08-08
sure buddy
1 Bick_Bickerson 2018-08-08
I win you lose
1 Still_youngjustice 2018-08-08
forgot the comma this time
1 Bick_Bickerson 2018-08-08
I win you lose.
1 Still_youngjustice 2018-08-08
oh so you're going without the comma now? nice change of pace
1 Bick_Bickerson 2018-08-08
I win, you lose.
1 Still_youngjustice 2018-08-08
hey I'm glad you're listening. good boi
1 Bick_Bickerson 2018-08-08
I win you lose.
1 Still_youngjustice 2018-08-08
aw, u disappoint
1 Bick_Bickerson 2018-08-08
I win, you lose.
1 Still_youngjustice 2018-08-08
good boi, now stay consistent
1 Bick_Bickerson 2018-08-08
I win you lose.
1 Still_youngjustice 2018-08-08
ugh
1 Bick_Bickerson 2018-08-08
I win you lose.
1 Still_youngjustice 2018-08-08
sighs in disappointment**
1 Bick_Bickerson 2018-08-08
I win, you lose.
1 Still_youngjustice 2018-08-08
nuh-uhhh
1 Bick_Bickerson 2018-08-08
Alright I got bored before you did
1 Still_youngjustice 2018-08-08
holy crap, i honestly was wondering if you'd made a script to auto reply me with that
1 I_DRINK_TO_FORGET 2018-08-08
Just answer "Yes, i am retarded." next time. Much quicker.
1 Lindseyisagirlsname 2018-08-08
Nothing that guy said was wrong. Stop being aids.
1 I_DRINK_TO_FORGET 2018-08-08
His entire statement is wrong, now fuck off back to SRD or wherever.
1 Lindseyisagirlsname 2018-08-08
Sure thing Charlie kirk.
1 Bick_Bickerson 2018-08-08
Oh, so you're just a trump Nazi. Got it. Just open with that next time.
1 I_DRINK_TO_FORGET 2018-08-08
Low quality b8
1 [deleted] 2018-08-08
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1 King_Drumpf 2018-08-08
Smh, if only she knew that 15th amendment only allows her to vote Democrat.
1 pitterpatterwater 2018-08-08
She may be just another conservathot looking for the patreon dollars, but the liberal outrage she causes is amazing.
1 ImJustaBagofHammers 2018-08-08
Rightists hate when people claim to be oppressed because of their race or gender except when they're right-wing.
1 patapatapatapata 2018-08-08
It's hilarious because she wouldn't get nearly as much attention and money if people weren't hysterical.
1 bassbadiya 2018-08-08
I love conservatives being racist towards democrat voting black by saying that they're slaves to the liberal indoctrination and too dumb to think for themselves. I don't care if Coondace is black or not. She's a racist piece of shit. And yes I see the irony in my post.
1 CSharpApostle 2018-08-08
Reverse racism on both sides. Radical!!!
1 ztoundas 2018-08-08
can't tell if shes just a troll lapping up the moron spotlight or if she is really so dumb as to think her strawman arguments are legit.
1 itsnotmyfault 2018-08-08
As someone who was paying close attention to her doxxing website and subsequent run-in with GamerGate, I've never seen a more retarded and unhinged lolcow than Candace Owens.
Here's just a random sampling of her tweets at the time: http://archive.li/FEY4O
It's really amazing that someone hired her for their cause. Personally, I'd pay money for her to be on the opposing side. Just look at this unhinged shit: "I will personally call the UN tomorrow and get in touch with the right person. This is sick." and "I've gone from a femi-nazi idiot barbie to a hardcore gamer. REEEEEEEACCCHHHHHHH" and "How many troll accounts do you guys think these girls run? How deep do you think this goes?"
1 ztoundas 2018-08-08
Is it though? She's black and an outspoken pro-trumper. They need every person of color they can get, so far they have like 3.
1 itsnotmyfault 2018-08-08
When the most common criticisms of your political party are that your leaders are conspiracy theorists, nutjobs, or racists... I'm really not convinced that hiring the black conspiracy theorist/nutjob is the home run they seem to think it is.
Also, I would prefer if they'd found someone a little less... "outspoken"
1 ztoundas 2018-08-08
Honestly I think they are just going whole hog on the fear-mongering tactic. It's become just a power struggle vs any meaningful attempt at policy-wrangling.
1 cleverseneca 2018-08-08
I think you just answered your own question.
1 OnlyRacistOnReddit 2018-08-08
There is so much in there, according to your username I imagine you look like this.
1 ironicshitpostr 2018-08-08
Confident masculinity
good stuff
1 Pol_Pots_Crockpot 2018-08-08
Iām digging the bizarro world optics on this
1 yeliwofthecorn 2018-08-08
Yeah, I don't really care about the shitfits Pizzashill and Queenoftheincels are throwing, but a group of white kids to harassing a black woman because she is the white supremacist is some juicy shit. Same with that Portland Antifa crew calling police racial slurs while at the same time accusing them of racism.
It's the kind of thing that keeps you doubletaking until your neck breaks.
1 BDRohr 2018-08-08
Iām honestly impressed they donāt appreciate the irony of them attacking so many Democrats turned independent for the very reason theyāre showing. They have to be trolling, there is no way someone is that dense. Fuck politics down south is fucked up, and I can see it happening more and more here in Canada. Iām calling a civil war when Trump does a reelection campaign, anyone want to start a betting site for this?
1 yeliwofthecorn 2018-08-08
As if these chuckleheads are Democrats. They vote for socialist candidates, workers' party candidates, etc. Sure if they had to pick a color it would be blue, but that's as much of a group to judge the Democrats by as Skinheads are for the Republicans.
They each align with a party, but the average member of that party will have more in common with a member of the opposing party than either fringe group.
1 BDRohr 2018-08-08
Then they need to start getting a hell of a lot more vocal on saying theyāre not part of the party and outliers. The amount of āwell the republicans are racist anyways so I donāt care lulā circle jerking going on in that thread is absurd.
Fuck, hunting people down and disrupting their breakfast because they have different ideas from you is idiotic to me too, but I guess thatās the level of discourse we hit.
1 seshfan2 2018-08-08
Lol at all the conservatives seriously arguing you're not allowed to harass a black women even if she says retarded shit.
They're sounding more and more like the SJWs they hate every day.
1 Fiat-Libertas 2018-08-08
That's the point retard. "Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules."
1 seshfan2 2018-08-08
"My enemy is playing around in their own feces, so if I play around in my own feces I'll look super cool and everyone will like me!"
Not surprising, because we already know conservatives are into diaperplay.
1 Fiat-Libertas 2018-08-08
>equating societal political issues to literally playing around in shit
Do you ever have normal conversations with people?
1 Fiat-Libertas 2018-08-08
>equating societal political issues to literally playing around in shit
Do you ever have normal conversations with people?
1 Ordoom 2018-08-08
You do realize what sub you're in right?
1 Fiat-Libertas 2018-08-08
I mean, yeah. But even here most people first thought isn't to go directly to talking about playing in shit.
I guess this place just attracts the best of the best.
1 Ordoom 2018-08-08
I come here from time to time and people talking about playing in shit is 10000000000000000% the norm. I mean look at the image on the sidebar lol.
1 saint2e 2018-08-08
Don't kinkshame him
1 Doomblaze 2018-08-08
I think you're actually the minority in that sense
1 heavenlytoaster 2018-08-08
TBH that's the most accurate comparison I've seen all week.
1 SlackBabo 2018-08-08
Conservatives have been saying that for decades. At some point they become your rules too.
1 trumplethinskins 2018-08-08
1 Hemingwavy 2018-08-08
It's the kind of point only a man who failed to get into a college and immediately began blaming black people could come up with.
1 Cocaine5mybreakfast 2018-08-08
I feel like Charlie Kirk conservatism with Candice Owens and all his other woke minority voices is just controlled opposition or some shit lmao, heās out here like āmuh identity politics muh stupid sjw all conservatism really means is international capitalismā and then does nothing but host āright wing Latino womanā rallies and pander like crazy lmao, dudes fake as fuck
1 MrDoctorStange 2018-08-08
Iām sure the mods will get right in there and ban anyone they vaguely dislike without thought or reason.
1 ImJustaBagofHammers 2018-08-08
"I think mayos are subhuman degenerates and should be systematically killed."
"Why?"
This post has been locked because you guys can't behave.
1 neutralvoter 2018-08-08
" So a bunch of white and what I assume are Democrats, rallied and chased a black woman out of a restaurant? Getting back to their roots I see. "
American politics: 1. watch a video of a bunch of kids doing dumb shit. 2. Assume their political party. 3. Use video of children combined with assumption of political beliefs to stereotype an imaginary group of people. 4. get mad and post online. 5. feel good about self.
1 SpotNL 2018-08-08
That's the beauty of a two party system. You don't have to think all that much.
1 Pee_Van_Queef 2018-08-08
two party system is practically built into democracy though. Countries with 3+ parties always have the smaller parties making alliances with the 2 biggest ones so they can get 51% of the vote
1 sevgee 2018-08-08
That's... not how it works. Look at France, their governing party came out of nowhere just before the elections.
1 Pee_Van_Queef 2018-08-08
idk man, I don't even care about politics. I just like to shit out opinions
1 SpotNL 2018-08-08
Although coalitions are much more important here, it is the same in the Netherlands with the Freedom Party (Wilders). I hate where he stands for and his antics made it impossible for them to wield any real power, but I love that someone can start a new party and rush in like a whirlwind. Wilders just 'forgot' (by design probably) that you need other parties.
Coalitions make it that you need to represent all voters, not just your party base, and sometimes that means having to work with parties you're not entirely compatible with.
1 PresidentialSophist 2018-08-08
Yeah, remember how shocked and surprised everyone was? How people were like "Wow this is so unusual to happen in a democracy where the two big tent parties don't make it to an election!"
Like, exceptions are not the rule. I mean, political realignments happen, and this one happens to be global.
1 the_popcorn_pisser 2018-08-08
Not at all, congress (or equivalent) representations aren't really binary in most of the west.
1 yeliwofthecorn 2018-08-08
It's built into first past the post which != democracy.
Try again sweaty.
1 Pee_Van_Queef 2018-08-08
I ain't sweaty
1 KokomoOReily 2018-08-08
Libtards pwned
1 ry8919 2018-08-08
I met Charlie Kirk and Candace Owens once in CA. When I walked up I could tell they were expecting/hoping for a confrontation but I disarmed them with my radical centrism. Kirk is a fucking giant. Ugly as sin too.
1 Anarcho_Autism 2018-08-08
There's something off-putting about Kirk's face. Might have to do with this... http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/rickandmorty/images/0/08/Image-3.jpeg/revision/latest?cb=20160812021835
1 ry8919 2018-08-08
Yes definitely. Also his teeth all angle *inward*. It's kind of off putting.
1 reallyrunningnow 2018-08-08
TIL - anifia literally equals neo nazis
1 Kilo_G_looked_up 2018-08-08
This but unironically.
1 Barton_Foley 2018-08-08
As one wag said, "Democrats have not run this many people out of restaurants since the civil rights era."
1 kaufe 2018-08-08
Anyone remember when Candace Owens was a radfem who doxxed people for being mean to her? Glad she's being equally insufferable.
1 Doriphor 2018-08-08
Once a radical always a radical ;)
1 infinitude 2018-08-08
/u/pizzashill
why do you hate black people?
1 DistortedLines 2018-08-08
How retarded do you have to be to make fucking Candace Owens look smart?
1 rigel2112 2018-08-08
Antifa level
1 Lindseyisagirlsname 2018-08-08
Dude omg the right has lost its way so bad lol the downvoting brigade in there was yikes.
"We ArE tEh SlAvE FrEeInG pArTy Of lInCoLn" *waves confederate flag
1 DoubleCheekedUp 2018-08-08
like yikes so squicky and gross omg llo
1 WatchItBuster 2018-08-08
I'm still pissed I got banned from there for posting a non worthy comment and pissing off some baby mod. Didn't even get a chance to shitpost about antifa or muslims or something.
1 Karmaisforsuckers 2018-08-08
OH NO the left yelled at the house nigger
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1 michaelnoir 2018-08-08
= Someone with pink hair throws some water on you.
= Go on Fox News and cry about being persecuted.
1 Orsonius 2018-08-08
All I know about her is that she works for toilet paper America and is retarded
1 Nigsterminator 2018-08-08
Mayocrats then, Mayocrats now
1 NardDogAndy 2018-08-08
Antifa is just upset that Candace isn't going to be their house nigger
1 Zacoftheaxes 2018-08-08
Candace Owens only became a conservative when she realized they were marginally stupider than Twitter progressives.