Zoomers get PTSD from politics - The Guardian

1  2018-10-26 by redsmokee

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Quarter of students surveyed at Arizona State University showed stress levels comparable to those of a mass shooting witness

I want off this ride

If the stress was from finals or college loans I'd understand, but these niggas take the actors in the govermant this seriously? REALLY?? Name ONE THING that has changed in your life between now and 2016. Not a single thing has actually changed to a single person's life that was surveyed.

I could understand if they were talking to DACA kids but I sounds like this is another case of forgetting what mayo tastes like before spreading it all over your sandwich

Thank Christ trump hasn't started TWO wars within his first half term.

He hasn't been nearly as bad as promised.

He's tried, he's just not very good at it, and his aides keep hiding all the relevant papers.

That why I'm thankful the outsider weirdo was Trump, hes no criminal mastermind.

Genuinely my reason why I would have voted Trump if I were an Ameriburger- he's less capable of doing damage because Washington veterans can run circles around him.

it really is amazing to think millennial can talk shit about how weak this generation is considering how much worse 2001-2002 was compared to trump

Tax cuts?

Well the drama got juicier

I've gone to college, discovered the gym, and got jacked

Yeah, after the election two years ago, like half of the students in my classes didn't show up because they were too "emotionally distraught". Like, I get that you're upset but come on, just admit you wanted an excuse to skip classes.

half of the students in my classes didn't show up just admit you wanted an excuse to skip classes.

That's actually completely respectable

My money says a plurality of them are that distressed.

Maybe mass shootings just aren't as stressful as everybody assumes they are? Like if you're on the other side of campus and nobody you know gets shot, your stress is going to be more of the "everybody around me is stressed out about this" variety than the "omg that just happened to me" variety.

I can see how an environment full of people who bought into the Trump vs. Clinton histrionics could induce that same stress in each other.

Unless you're in the room of people getting gunned down, it's the equivalent of someone in your neighborhood getting shot.

It literally said WITNESSES.

That could mean anything since the articles are making up the comparison

you ever watch the first 48? apparently drive-bys aren't that stressful.

I have seen some episodes of it. I don't recall how that correlates to your statement though. Isn't that where they try to catch a murder within first two days?

I don't recall how that correlates to your statement though.

they aren't messes over seeing someone just get murdered in front of them.

Witnesses, dude. Not someone in the same town. How do you witness murder without seeing it in front of you?

The original study doesn't mention the comparison to mass shooting numbers, and I can't see anybody quoting where they got the mass shooting numbers to compare to, but some googling found this study which seems like it might be the source:

Data were obtained from female participants who completed three waves of a longitudinal study. For the pre-shooting survey, 1,045 students currently enrolled in Introductory Psychology were recruited from a mass testing pool; participants were required to be women over the age of 18 years and fluent in English, and were not selected on the basis of trauma history or symptomatology. The pre-shooting survey (conducted between September 2006 and February 14, 2008) served as a baseline assessment for a longitudinal study of risk factors for sexual re-victimization. For the pre-shooting survey, participants completed a number of computer administered measures in an individual interview room over the course of approximately one hour and received course credit for participation. Of the 1,045 female participants who completed the pre-shooting survey, 885 (84.7%) consented to be contacted and were invited to participate in additional follow-up assessments.

Of the 885 potential participants, 812 (91.8% of 885 participants who consented to be contacted and 78% of the original 1,045 participants) were determined to be enrolled as a student at the university at the time of the mass shooting and were considered eligible for the post-shooting assessment. Seventeen days after the mass shooting event, participants were sent an email that contained an individualized link to an online shooting-related survey. Of those invited to participate, 691 (85%) completed the 30-minute online post-shooting survey. Participants had a number of weeks to complete the online survey and were sent several e-mail reminders. Non-responders were also contacted by telephone. Participants were compensated $40 for completion of the post-shooting survey.

I dunno though, the students in the mass shooting study were all women though, whereas the election study was a 50/50 male/female mix. So a more accurate headline might be that the 2016 election made college students exhibit the same levels of stress as a group of women.

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The women in the heterogenous group were way more likely to act traumatized than the men as well.

By not being an eyewitness, which is what you're referring to. Witnesses often aren't even aware of the crime that took place until they find out they were a witness.

Either zoomers are literally shaking rn

Or school shooting victims aren't affected by the experience that much lmao

The second one. Most people who go through traumatic experiences don't get PTSD.

Your mom still experiences PTSD due to my huge cock

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involving 769 students enrolled in psychology classes at Arizona State University

Oh shit. My time in college, and dating a girl in psychology at the time as well, has led me to a belief: Every psych student is their own first case study

To study mental illness you must become mental illness

You must be crazy to understand the crazy.

You must become r/drama to understand r/drama

You must be Jewish to understand the goyim.

You must be circumcised, to understand the uncircumcised.

All I really know is that I have never missed my foreskin ever in my life, and I'm not even Jewish.

Because youre too young to remember it and have no way of knowing what it feels like to have it?

Imagine caring this much about foreskin.

I don't care about my toes much

but if someone cut them off i would be mad at them

So you're saying I should be mad because someone had my foreskin cut off before I could remember? Because I’m not feelin that one.

when did i say that?

Well, you’re the one talking to me about my foreskin so I just figured you had opinion.

Thats actually pretty common.

Can confirm. Grew up in group homes and the staff were people that should be in group homes too.

You're telling me.

Still I notice this article left out "90% foid."

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Disgusting

Well no shit

You would need to date 30 random psychology student women to get a significant result. Better put on a bullet proof west and start dating!

I don't wanna. That chick bawled heavily for 30 minutes when we missed a highway exit because she thought we would be a few minutes late to her friend's party. Keep in mind we are at the party for 20 of those 30 minutes. It was one of the many times I had a beer in one hand, and a question of wtf I was doing with this girl in the other.

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Sitting in a karaoke bar with 3 male friends, they commented on the cuteness of the waitress and agreed with one another. I actually didn't even say anything... but she looked at me and said, "You're just going to sit there like I'm one of the guys?!?" So I look at her like this. This causes her to go into the prep stage that I've recognized as the early warning for a crying fit. So look at her like this. Now I'm the bad guy and she demands I take her home or she's calling a cab. Ok!

So then she sat down and ate her god damn wings.

Any more?

Any more?

After someone cut her off at a party, she got mad at me for not hitting the host and then demanded we leave. Halfway back to the dorms she's still screaming at me and demanded to be let out of the car. So I did. 3 hours later, about 2 a.m., one of her study partners asks me if I knew where she was, so I told her where I left her. She went to the train station and found her still sitting there in the benches. So now I'm an asshole.

This one is pretty funny. I've been in that situation before. If you stop the car and let them out you're an asshole, if you keep driving you're kidnapping them. Thanks for reminding me there are some parts of adult life that are better than college.

Final story because it was the last time I saw her:

She was a year ahead of me and graduating early at that, heading off back to her home in Mass. She talks all about this "one last night" huge plans she has like we're in some weird John Hughes movie. However, that morning she just starts bawling. Ugly bawling. She knows we'll never see each other again, she keeps repeating. Me I'm honestly relieved but I didn't say it. The whole day is just going to various places so she can cry a lot there and wipe boogers off her face. I made it about five hours and I call one of her friends to come get her. She's nononono and bawling harder because she expected this to end in sex. Heavily crying whacko might do it for some, not for me. I turn to walk off as her friend shows up, and she reaches out and tries to grab me for a kiss, and her hand feels gooey. I jerk back and touch my cheek and I have the nastiest longest snot rope across my cheekbone that she just planted there. Our parting was such sweet sorrow, me storming off trying not to puke, while she wails out "I'm sorrrrrraaaayy!" over and over again.

hot

that was somewhat entertaining.

Why did you stay with her for so long?

Because he's crazy too.

I was young, she was hot, and most days were good

Better put on a bullet proof west and start dating!

I wear a bullet proof east

Booooooo

I'd rather date my right hand that psych studnet.

Not your left? That’s leftphobic!

I want a student ):

Dated one myself... You are about 100% correct.

It's a coin flip in my experience, either they find the mentally ill mind absolutely fascinating or they're desperate for the authority to declare themselves mentally healthy.

Psych 101 is a super common general Ed requirement.

The first stroller was pulled by a goat.

Isn't this what Jung said?

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back in my day we used to get PTSD from quake 3

they don't make em like they used to

I played that game into like 2004

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Ahhhhh......now Doom 2.....that was a good game.

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The only Doom that was worth playing came on a floppy disk.

Rude, 2016 was awesome. Last thing Bethesda put out that I didn't hate.

Only good game now is Witcher 3 amirite dudes

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WOOOAAAH BOOMER USA. YEAAAAAAGHHHHH

I was a latch key kid and played it when I was like 10 years old

Jamie pull that up

Christ there should have been a nuclear holocaust in the 1950's. Every generation after the Greatest one was a mistake.

Eh, I bet WW1 vets called WW2 vets soyboy beta cucks

Checks out, Hitler was a WW1 vet and thought the trenches were the best time of his life

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Yep, those were the days.

alt-righter not drinking Alt

Not drinking vault?

I get that the

sip Ah, these whippersnappers don't know how good they had it, back in my day we had real struggles!

thing is a little trite but maybe there's a legitimate point there when people are being diagnosed with post traumatic stress from witnessing a heated political debate

Yeah true, but for me these clowns only exist on the internet. Ive pretty much never met any of these lunatics irl.

You pretty much only have to walk on a college campus apparently.

Only English majors.

>not choking on your own chlorine gas

This pussified new generation smh

Greatest Generation was a bigger mistake than all of tgise that came after it combined though

of course they're gonna be shit. how are you gonna top a generation called the "greatest". you can't do it

Would you rather A) fight off a division of panzers in the Ardennes or B) go to a shitty party school, major in a joke degree and have ptsd symptoms because hombre naranja malo.

Naranja means the fruit stupid, anaranjado is the color

I too am sometimes a pedantic cunt.

sometimes

amateur

pedantic

Guy, they're different words lol

I actually liked the description of Trump as a literal orange.

Just to be safe, you both have to go back

no u.

I learned something today, that's enough for me.

Dude gets compared to fruits too, I have seen tangerines for example.

Tangerini Mussolini

Nah, naranja is fine as the color too. It's still wrong because it's the feminine form, it'd be naranjo here.

Carne leche

The first one sounds like actual work, can I go with the second?

Getting paid to kill G*rmans vs literally anything else

tough decision famo 🤔

I'm torn between my cowardice and laziness, and my desire to murder Germans.

Sometimes I think that maybe everyone being allowed to go to college was a mistake.

I always thought it was a meme, but are kids genuinely not being bullied enough?

Unfortunately yeah... We desperately need zero tolerance for pussy ass bitches and I'm worried we're not going to get it any time soon...

you really think the kids that would be bullied are the hilary supporters?

You raise a fair point, perhaps we should focus on funding some equal opportunity bullying program, so that kids can be confronted with minor unpleasantness in controlled environments, so that they don't become sobbing messes at the slightest upset.

I'm not even sure I'm being ironic here.

Researchers suggested that the combination of Trump’s controversial rhetoric and the surprise of his win could have led to the stress spike.

Our ancestors got PTSD when they had to dodge sabertooths and watch their friends trampled by mammoths all the way to assaulting into endless trenches over endless artillery barrages. Their weak ass future spawn to get triggerd by the Orange Man mean words.

This is what happens when you don't beat your kids

It takes a very special kind of stupid to fall victim to your own fearmongering just so you can feel like the underdog. The right isn't trying to feed their fears at all; the genuine fear that people have of trump and the alt-right is entirely their own doing

Only a people who had been thoroughly brainwashed and damaged by constant propaganda scientifically developed to raise their blood pressure sky high 24/7 could have ever thought Trump was a good idea. Trump himself is a victim of Americans incessant need for self-propagandization. At least the propaganda in most dictatorships was boring and you could just ignore it, Americans decide to do this shit to themselves, destroy their minds. Thankfully this will hasten the end of western civilization, and the rest of the human race can pick up the pieces from the ashes of all that the arrogant west destroyed.

Not your usual shtick, friend. Are you okay?

You were one of the gussys polled in this study werent you?

This entire rant all while you personally profit from the global poor.

pizzashill is still reeling

What the fuck is a "zoomer"?

Gen z boomers.

They are as retarded as the agenda posting here on drama. Zzzzz

Zoomers are also the most conservative generation. I'm surprised The Guardian is pretending to care about them, but I bet once they're old enough the vote the Nu-Media will start attacking them just the way old media attacked millennials.

This has to do with shifting of what conservative means. Zoomers are A-OK with the gays, the blacks and mostly OK with the trans. They just think millenial degeneracy has gone too far.

I wouldn't be so sure about that. Millennials are liberals because the generation before them were very conservative. Now Zoomers are growing up in a very "progressive" world- I wouldn't be surprised if a very large chunk of them turned out to be actually retarded conservatives.

Side note I'm not using the word "Conservative" etc to mean Democrat vs Republican.

Is this bad?

Well, it depends on your views. Personally, I identify with Zoomer conservatives (despite being an almost 30-year old Boomer myself), so I'd say it's a good thing.

nobody really knows if gen z is conservative or liberal. You can find plenty of surveys supporting any position you want.

Zoomers are also the most conservative generation.

thats bias as shit. the reason studies show that is because zoomers are more likely to be black or hispanic. As you saw from that annoying preacher at that old RESPECT bitch's funeral, black churches are really conservative as are latino ones. But just because they believe in god and other conservative stuff doesn't mean they would ever vote republican.

more likely come 2024 we will get a 3rd-way democrat who's platform is basically just John McCain's or Mitt Romney's. Also the sort of idiots attending ASU are redditor athiest MAYO bitches.

But just because they believe in god and other conservative stuff doesn't mean they would ever vote republican.

If you had just wiped off the sweat off your armpits and kept reading the chain you would see this

Side note I'm not using the word "Conservative" etc to mean Democrat vs Republican.

Equating liberal with Democrat and conservative with Republican is a very dumb move. It puts the terms in contrast (i.e "he who wants to conserve values vs he who wants people to do whatever they want") and furthers the idea that Amerifats only have 2 options, when that is not the case.

*fortnite dance intensifies*

2018 at a PTSD support group

What are you here for

"I had combat deployment saw and did some fucked up shit"

How about you

: I was molested throughout my childhood:

And you

(The guy I didn't like one the election)

GET OUT

If I was a psych major, I'd have PTSD knowing that without a PhD my degree is as useful as a square of toilet paper.

I'm getting sick of articles focused on colleges and what 19 ur olds are doing and feeling. Who gives a fuck what they feel or who they protest. It's not news worthy at all

Imagine being a ww2 veteran having seen your friends get torn to pieces by artilery and having your grandchildren end up like this.

Would zoomers have been in college in 2016? I thought the cutoff for millenials was later than that.

The study was limited in its scope, involving 769 students enrolled in psychology classes at Arizona State University in January and February 2017,

So, crazy people?

My bet is resting on preexisting mental illness. Seriously.

Jesus Christ - how did people get so weak? I’m beyond embarrassed for these pathetic children.

The psychological assessment, known as the Impact of Event Scale, asked the students questions about the 2016 election.

IMPACT OF EVENTS SCALE-Revised

I wanna see this applied to some baseline non-traumatic event like the Patriots losing the Super Bowl.

do all bombastic articles happen because bad research?

Yeah, probably. But that's good for dramacoin

Some of the questions are so broad that a people who actually support Trump would probably get a result of "PTSD is a clinical concern". "Any reminder brought back feelings about it" is probably going to get a 4 from anybody who has any sort of opinion about Trump at all. The feelings might be "ahaha libtards BTFO"

We are diagnosing people with PTSD who went through an election? I mean at what point would it be okay just to say to these people "This is life deal with it 🤗" ?

2014ish. That's when we all should have been saying that. Instead these dipshits get a say in how hurt they are by fucking everything.

Please remove the pizzashill tongue kissing side pic

Any sane person would get PTSD from the American political scene. It is known.