Why is he a whack job? I can only say if his info on psychology is correct ot not as that is my area of expertise. But in that area he is one of the most knowledgeable YouTubers. In other areas he may be weak.
You can't be so bad that you mislead people as there is no truth in this field.
Fucking lol. The absolute state of burger education. Can't wait to see your comment about how Marx was completely wrong or something... despite there being "no truth in the field" he wrote in.
Marx is political science too and not just philosophy. Of course he is wrong in saying stuff like: worker conditions are getting worse every year. That is conclusively wrong and he should have known it. But you can't be wrong in for example staying that: I think poor people need to kill rich people. That's an opinion and not a fact. You are evil but not wrong if you say it.
Determining the value of "wrong" is a philosophical, not scientific question... you cant divine an objective measure of wrong from looking at the universe.
just go read the wikipedia page for epistemology or philosophy of science, jesus christ my frontal lobe just went numb from the second hand fentanyl you must be shooting up to respond with such a retarded question.
Answer my question before you embarrass again: how do you know worker conditions aren't/weren't getting worse? Please operationalize the word "worse" in a scienitifically objective and completely uncontroversial manner.
Marx defined it using philosophy. Exploitation and alienation are inherently ethical and controversial concepts. To accept them as measurements of anything, you would need to accept their truth, and thus the truth of his philosophy.
But thats the exact same thing as evaluating colors right lmao
Yeah you're right, Marx just talked about wages and unemployment... he said nothing about the relationship between productive classes and the extraction of surplus value. It was because wages are low that capitalism will collapse...
Since I know this conversation isn't going to go anywhere: Why do you talk about things as though you understand anything about them? Like, where does this predisposition to make yourself look like an idiot come from?
"The absolute state of most people who hasnt had the opportunity and privilege to study philosophy or other matters mostly dedicated to the extremely well off"
Burguer education is bad but everyone here does the same mistake
Impressive lack of subtlety. Just flat out naming it "SHUT HIM DOWN" in all caps.
JP himself seems boring as fuck when he's not talking about his apple cider vinegar poisoning, but I gotta respect his ability to make people freak out.
This is still early, but tons of people are posting in that thread not realizing the documentary isnt advocating for him to be shut down, but documenting people attempting to shut him down. Also, its a very neutral and objective documentary showing both sides of the debate. Although, i think the issue is the misleading title to the documentary and the fact you cant watch it right now in America. But i give it about an hour or two before tankie defense force (AKA r/cth) swoops in to shit all over the whole thing and it gets locked down. Bonus points if an r/askhistorian or r/philosophy mod gets top comment right before the lock.
Exactly, her youtube snippets and her article on why she made the film say the same thing you are saying. JP fans are already making themselves look retarded, I wonder when CTH and 'the sub which shall not be named' will join. I am getting my popcorn ready and buying some dramacoin because I know I will be rich.
Everytime a jordan thread pops up outside of TD/KiA/CA ish subs, it ALWAYS gets locked and a r/askhistorian or r/philosophy mod always ends up the top stickied comment basically saying "jordan is stupid and everyone who disagrees is racist" or something similar. Im just testing out my ability to see the future.
all askhistorian mods are devote communists so a figure who speaks freely about the horrors of communism sparks ire from them in ways i dont have the time to write about.
Where is this coming from? All I know about the sub is they fucking delete everything unless it is sourced a million times and several thousands of words long.
It is hard to get any answers on that sub because of their standards.
They used to be looser in the past, but they also used to have a ton of shit there in the past. Now a lot of really interesting questions get asked there, that are simply too complex or difficult to source appropriately according to academic standards.
I fucking hate browsing there. I see topics I would love to read about and I see a ton of comments for thread. I click to read and then find every single answer deleted. The whole sub is blue balls.
Why would you advertise your documentary when its only available in mooseland on a site dominated by burgers and when they ask questions you tell them to watch it which they cant..
I never really got the point of np, they don't actually even disable upvoting/downvoting or commenting. It's so weird. If those functions were disabled it might serve a slight purpose.
They don't disable it because it is a CSS hack. It was never an actual function of the site. Powermods across the site pushed this nonsense for no good reason and admins have never endorsed it nor is it a rule.
I really wish Peterson was slightly less fucking retarded, it's fun watching "the left" freak out about him. Unfortunately since he's made clear that he's just a cranky mega religious Boomer, no one cares anymore. Sad really.
LOL I hated Peterson at first and assumed he was some reactionary new right figure without really knowing much about him, just because of the kinds of people that tended to be attracted to him. It was an erroneous assumption. Some of the stuff he says is crazy, some of its sensible, he can be quite centrist, he's pretty weird all said and I hardly hate him.
Unfortunately a lot of people think of an AMA like an interview. Like an interview is a favor celebrities do to the media in order to let them plug something they're working on usually. The interviewers are trained to just let it slide, even pitch them a few softballs about their work in order to scratch their back a bit.
An AMA is not really like that, if you just walk into a crowd of random people and expect to "waste" as little time as possible with non-plugging activity you're quickly going to piss them off because it makes it quite clear how much of a whore you are. They're not expecting it, again, because they're trained at question asking from fellow whores in the media who also assume that shameless self-promotion is the name of the game.
thats the exchange retard. Advertising for answers. You think celebrities should sanctimoniously gift their word to the fat trogs which stalk them on reddit?
I remember the days when AMA's were devoid of famous people. Like you'd have people going on an saying "IAMA electrical engineer, ask me anything". Generally people of certain professions, or done something weird or notable. Some times you'd just have some college kid doing one, seriously. "IAMA" is kind of a neologism honestly in this age, "I am a Obama?" It's more of the age of "I am X".
How Professor Kermit has created so much controversy over so little baffles me. Anyone who has strong opinions on him one way or the other is a fucking loser.
He's like half grandpa-tier life advice cloaked in metaphysics and half Jungian psychobabble, the fact that he became a prominent talking head is beyond me.
Saw the documentary and quite enjoyed it! So much new content. I don't understand why so many people misunderstood the trailer... It seemed obvious to me that it was just an ominous tone, and I doubt JP would have worked so closely with someone making a slanderous work anyway.
I have tons of questions for Jordan Peterson... I guess my only question for you is, are you planning on releasing more material on him?
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1 SnapshillBot 2018-11-05
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1 maetrix 2018-11-05
Fresh Drama from a Canadian perspective; watch how fast the comment section gets modded
1 definibusmalorum 2018-11-05
She’s a lobster herself apparently.
1 trilateral1 2018-11-05
You mean her serotonin levels are affected by how she perceives herself in the local hierarchy of her surroundings, and vice versa?
1 SAC-Lawn_Gnome 2018-11-05
It's already a firestorm of juicy questions, and it's only 10 minutes old.
1 JabroniMark99 2018-11-05
So many fans of Jordan Peterson lmao. That dude is a whack job.
1 JurijFedorov 2018-11-05
Why is he a whack job? I can only say if his info on psychology is correct ot not as that is my area of expertise. But in that area he is one of the most knowledgeable YouTubers. In other areas he may be weak.
1 3lRey 2018-11-05
Because they think he's a right wing guy. It's easier to write people off when you think they're crazy.
1 WeeniePops 2018-11-05
Yep, it's either this or "he's the dumb guy's smart guy" which just means, I think I don't like what he says, so here's a way to disparage him.
1 Mexagon 2018-11-05
He advocates personal responsibility, and that makes the tanie NEETs of reddit sperg the fuck out.
1 ILieToCaptchas 2018-11-05
His take into philosophy is weak
Not the dumbest guy but he doesnt deserve all the hype
1 JurijFedorov 2018-11-05
How can you be weak in philosophy? You either understand it or you don't. You can't be so bad that you mislead people.
1 Zizac 2018-11-05
Fucking lol. The absolute state of burger education. Can't wait to see your comment about how Marx was completely wrong or something... despite there being "no truth in the field" he wrote in.
1 JurijFedorov 2018-11-05
Marx is political science too and not just philosophy. Of course he is wrong in saying stuff like: worker conditions are getting worse every year. That is conclusively wrong and he should have known it. But you can't be wrong in for example staying that: I think poor people need to kill rich people. That's an opinion and not a fact. You are evil but not wrong if you say it.
1 Zizac 2018-11-05
Determining the value of "wrong" is a philosophical, not scientific question... you cant divine an objective measure of wrong from looking at the universe.
Legit how fucking dumb are you?
1 JurijFedorov 2018-11-05
"I feel that orange is the best color"
How will you prove this wrong or correct?
1 Zizac 2018-11-05
just go read the wikipedia page for epistemology or philosophy of science, jesus christ my frontal lobe just went numb from the second hand fentanyl you must be shooting up to respond with such a retarded question.
Answer my question before you embarrass again: how do you know worker conditions aren't/weren't getting worse? Please operationalize the word "worse" in a scienitifically objective and completely uncontroversial manner.
1 JurijFedorov 2018-11-05
I don't need to define it. Marx did.
1 Zizac 2018-11-05
Marx defined it using philosophy. Exploitation and alienation are inherently ethical and controversial concepts. To accept them as measurements of anything, you would need to accept their truth, and thus the truth of his philosophy.
But thats the exact same thing as evaluating colors right lmao
1 JurijFedorov 2018-11-05
He was talking about things such as wages and unemployment. Things you can easily measure.
1 Zizac 2018-11-05
Yeah you're right, Marx just talked about wages and unemployment... he said nothing about the relationship between productive classes and the extraction of surplus value. It was because wages are low that capitalism will collapse...
Since I know this conversation isn't going to go anywhere: Why do you talk about things as though you understand anything about them? Like, where does this predisposition to make yourself look like an idiot come from?
1 JurijFedorov 2018-11-05
Yes, correct. Low wages and lack of jobs.
1 ILieToCaptchas 2018-11-05
"The absolute state of most people who hasnt had the opportunity and privilege to study philosophy or other matters mostly dedicated to the extremely well off"
Burguer education is bad but everyone here does the same mistake
1 Zizac 2018-11-05
The introduction to any legitimate philosophy book would dispell such a flagrantly retarded dismissal of the entire study.
Its willful stemlord ignorance and can be repaired with a 6 minute read of the wikipedia page on epistimology.
1 ILieToCaptchas 2018-11-05
The introduction of any legitimate book about a subject that is not only not studied in any high schools but taught to be useless all around the world
Aight
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1 Mexagon 2018-11-05
Wow compelling argument there, bud.
1 Zizac 2018-11-05
fuck off back to whatever shithole subreddit you rapefugee'd from.
ah /r/conservative.
1 Watermark03 2018-11-05
He actually is kind of important in psychology and has like 10k cites. Like not a legendary figure or anything but definitely respectable.
1 Chronicopia420 2018-11-05
God i am literally giddy right now with anticipation of the shit show to come
1 AJK64 2018-11-05
Why?
1 maetrix 2018-11-05
Why....not?
1 kazanwolfdog 2018-11-05
This is a good one, didn't nobody tell her this was a lobster lair? Or is she purposely looking for controversy?
1 definibusmalorum 2018-11-05
She’s a lobster herself my dude. Read it again.
1 HP_civ 2018-11-05
Wtf does lobster mean in this context? Please help I am retard.
1 kazanwolfdog 2018-11-05
Why is Jordan Peterson always associated with lobsters?
1 HP_civ 2018-11-05
Thank you daddy
1 kazanwolfdog 2018-11-05
Oops, I'm retarded.
1 definibusmalorum 2018-11-05
We understand.
1 ABigBigThug 2018-11-05
Impressive lack of subtlety. Just flat out naming it "SHUT HIM DOWN" in all caps.
JP himself seems boring as fuck when he's not talking about his apple cider vinegar poisoning, but I gotta respect his ability to make people freak out.
And of course it's a foid making the documentary.
1 Corporal-Hicks 2018-11-05
This is still early, but tons of people are posting in that thread not realizing the documentary isnt advocating for him to be shut down, but documenting people attempting to shut him down. Also, its a very neutral and objective documentary showing both sides of the debate. Although, i think the issue is the misleading title to the documentary and the fact you cant watch it right now in America. But i give it about an hour or two before tankie defense force (AKA r/cth) swoops in to shit all over the whole thing and it gets locked down. Bonus points if an r/askhistorian or r/philosophy mod gets top comment right before the lock.
1 tHeSiD 2018-11-05
Exactly, her youtube snippets and her article on why she made the film say the same thing you are saying. JP fans are already making themselves look retarded, I wonder when CTH and 'the sub which shall not be named' will join. I am getting my popcorn ready and buying some dramacoin because I know I will be rich.
1 CirqueDuFuder 2018-11-05
What sub that shall not be named?
1 youcanteatbullets 2018-11-05
Probably KiA
1 tHeSiD 2018-11-05
Politics
1 no___justno 2018-11-05
I understand yours is the correct answer, but I still gotta upvote spacedicks. Sorry.
1 SeattleFingers 2018-11-05
lmao, the real gold is in the sub-sub-sub-sub comments
1 grep_var_log 2018-11-05
spacedicks
1 tsetnocamrak 2018-11-05
Cumtown
1 throwlookingforhelp 2018-11-05
Drama
1 dootwthesickness_II 2018-11-05
Sardinia
1 Watermark03 2018-11-05
I'm weirdly surprised that that subreddit is actually about Sardinia
1 Metatron58 2018-11-05
clop clop
1 moondoggy101 2018-11-05
Yeah as much as the CTH guys complain about Peterson brigaders they are capable of brigading 10 times as hard.
I think it is a good bet that latestagecapitalism and chapo users will have most of the top comments by threads end and the lobsters get drowned out.
1 CorporateAgitProp 2018-11-05
Well of course they will. One giant faggot cluster.
1 Sarge_Ward 2018-11-05
Lol why is that a bonus?
1 Corporal-Hicks 2018-11-05
Everytime a jordan thread pops up outside of TD/KiA/CA ish subs, it ALWAYS gets locked and a r/askhistorian or r/philosophy mod always ends up the top stickied comment basically saying "jordan is stupid and everyone who disagrees is racist" or something similar. Im just testing out my ability to see the future.
1 ILieToCaptchas 2018-11-05
Askhistorian mods being like that is new to me
And it is always the same philosophy mods regulars sperging about peterson, is not many either is just tme same usual suspects
1 Corporal-Hicks 2018-11-05
all askhistorian mods are devote communists so a figure who speaks freely about the horrors of communism sparks ire from them in ways i dont have the time to write about.
1 Sarge_Ward 2018-11-05
Youre delusional lmfao
1 error404brain 2018-11-05
The absolute state of lobsters, lmao.
1 CirqueDuFuder 2018-11-05
Where is this coming from? All I know about the sub is they fucking delete everything unless it is sourced a million times and several thousands of words long.
It is hard to get any answers on that sub because of their standards.
1 Watermark03 2018-11-05
They used to be looser in the past, but they also used to have a ton of shit there in the past. Now a lot of really interesting questions get asked there, that are simply too complex or difficult to source appropriately according to academic standards.
1 CirqueDuFuder 2018-11-05
I fucking hate browsing there. I see topics I would love to read about and I see a ton of comments for thread. I click to read and then find every single answer deleted. The whole sub is blue balls.
1 Fletch71011 2018-11-05
Imagine modding a history sub and being a communist.
1 Watermark03 2018-11-05
Devout communists lol
You're just mad because they're honest about America's history in latin America
1 SeattleFingers 2018-11-05
They don't allow comments questioning the Holocaust, and that's about as communist as they get.
1 kirukokujin1 2018-11-05
askhistorian mods are shit and dont actually care about history or sources
1 RollBread 2018-11-05
The only information avalable it the wider public is the title.
'Befuddled mess' is how I'd describe that AMA. Bodes well for that documentary if they can't structure a 300 word post.
1 tHeSiD 2018-11-05
Why would you advertise your documentary when its only available in mooseland on a site dominated by burgers and when they ask questions you tell them to watch it which they cant..
1 Heydammit 2018-11-05
Why wouldn't you advertise? Get people thinking about it early, stir up controversy and drive up sales. She took a note from Memerson.
1 CannabisCumshot69 2018-11-05
come on dude what are the odds of that
1 Chicup 2018-11-05
Can't watch the video due to a lack of maple syrup in my blood.
1 maetrix 2018-11-05
You're not missing much; tried to watch it last night but it was more partisan than Michael Moore and had to walkway
1 Chicup 2018-11-05
I watched the CBC coverage of the US election, and it made MSNBC look like a Fox opinion piece.
1 Corporal-Hicks 2018-11-05
really? I thought it was pretty damn objective. It shows both sides, but obviously there is a slight lean to JBP's side.
1 YoMothaFlippin 2018-11-05
Imagine thinking you can take Dr. Mr. Jordan Memerson
1 Sniffposter30 2018-11-05
>.np
Fuck you op
1 maetrix 2018-11-05
Awww did you forget how the address bar works?
1 trilateral1 2018-11-05
np links are a bannable offense in this sub
1 maetrix 2018-11-05
What should I do for pennance then? Read 5 threads on 2x? Upvote r/LateStageCapitalism?
​
Gah, I feel dirty already...
1 MDEfugeesOUT 2018-11-05
Post Bussy
1 serialflamingo 2018-11-05
You can serve your sentence
1 Agenda_Poster 2018-11-05
Stop posting np links probably.
1 SageKnows 2018-11-05
I am a bit out of the rock on this, when did this become bannable and why?
1 trilateral1 2018-11-05
maybe a year? idk
lol I can't believe they really banned OP. it's more of a joke. unless someone keeps linking np
1 SageKnows 2018-11-05
But whats the point?
1 trilateral1 2018-11-05
to discourage np links, obviously :)
1 SageKnows 2018-11-05
aaaa I get that but why np links are bad? Cause you cant participate and /r/drama love to?
1 trilateral1 2018-11-05
I forgot, tbh
probably something like this fake experiment ("fake" as in: it never happened. but a lot of popsci and self-help books pretend it did)
1 SageKnows 2018-11-05
Ahh I see. Thank you trilateral1 san
1 CirqueDuFuder 2018-11-05
NP is retarded and has never been a rule by admins. We also sabotage people that do it on this sub. Try reading Drama in NP for yourself to see.
It also doesn't stop people at all.
1 SageKnows 2018-11-05
I dont even know how to link using np. Guess my autism is not as high as I expected
1 CirqueDuFuder 2018-11-05
Replace www with np
1 Watermark03 2018-11-05
I never really got the point of np, they don't actually even disable upvoting/downvoting or commenting. It's so weird. If those functions were disabled it might serve a slight purpose.
1 CirqueDuFuder 2018-11-05
They don't disable it because it is a CSS hack. It was never an actual function of the site. Powermods across the site pushed this nonsense for no good reason and admins have never endorsed it nor is it a rule.
1 Watermark03 2018-11-05
They do ban people but usually it's a short term ban
1 Corporal-Hicks 2018-11-05
dont worry, its just a short term ban.
1 CirqueDuFuder 2018-11-05
Good luck trying to act that sarcastic when you come back.
1 Snowayne2 2018-11-05
I love the irony of lobstercels blindly downvoting this because they just assume it's critical of daddy Kermit.
Very juicy, good find OP.
1 Zombies_hate_ninjas 2018-11-05
I really wish Peterson was slightly less fucking retarded, it's fun watching "the left" freak out about him. Unfortunately since he's made clear that he's just a cranky mega religious Boomer, no one cares anymore. Sad really.
1 Watermark03 2018-11-05
LOL I hated Peterson at first and assumed he was some reactionary new right figure without really knowing much about him, just because of the kinds of people that tended to be attracted to him. It was an erroneous assumption. Some of the stuff he says is crazy, some of its sensible, he can be quite centrist, he's pretty weird all said and I hardly hate him.
1 seshfan2 2018-11-05
A bunch of Peterson fans knee-jerk reacting and assuming something is insulting their dear leader is hilarious.
1 pbjandahighfive 2018-11-05
Holy shit that AMA is garbage. Almost every single one of her responses can be summed up as "go watch my film".
1 Wraith_GraveSpell 2018-11-05
Thats because everyone assumes the worst from the title alone.
1 -absolutego- 2018-11-05
That's how AMAs have worked for years. Anyone remember "let's focus on the movie people"?
1 Watermark03 2018-11-05
Unfortunately a lot of people think of an AMA like an interview. Like an interview is a favor celebrities do to the media in order to let them plug something they're working on usually. The interviewers are trained to just let it slide, even pitch them a few softballs about their work in order to scratch their back a bit.
An AMA is not really like that, if you just walk into a crowd of random people and expect to "waste" as little time as possible with non-plugging activity you're quickly going to piss them off because it makes it quite clear how much of a whore you are. They're not expecting it, again, because they're trained at question asking from fellow whores in the media who also assume that shameless self-promotion is the name of the game.
1 XhotwheelsloverX 2018-11-05
Iama in a nutshell
1 Heydammit 2018-11-05
Kinda funny that people think AmA has been anything but blatant advertising for celebrities for a while now.
1 Zizac 2018-11-05
thats the exchange retard. Advertising for answers. You think celebrities should sanctimoniously gift their word to the fat trogs which stalk them on reddit?
1 wewladin 2018-11-05
Remember when reddit wasnt really for astroturfing business things? Owait that died in like 2012.
1 drift_summary 2018-11-05
Pepperidge Farm remembers!
1 JustLions 2018-11-05
Rampart remembers.
1 Watermark03 2018-11-05
I remember the days when AMA's were devoid of famous people. Like you'd have people going on an saying "IAMA electrical engineer, ask me anything". Generally people of certain professions, or done something weird or notable. Some times you'd just have some college kid doing one, seriously. "IAMA" is kind of a neologism honestly in this age, "I am a Obama?" It's more of the age of "I am X".
1 wewladin 2018-11-05
Also ask reddit turned into a formulaic cesspool around then too.
Basically askreddit question. Single line response. Then a swarm of stories of that single line comment.
T. Autistic programmer that noticed patterns
1 nukemybackyard 2018-11-05
That comment thread is embarrassing. I doubt even my fellow monkeys would be that stupid.
1 ethanfadberry 2018-11-05
https://www.reddit.com/user/winnipeg-woman
This is definitely a real person
1 froibo 2018-11-05
Day of the pot is apon us.
1 Power_Incarnate 2018-11-05
How Professor Kermit has created so much controversy over so little baffles me. Anyone who has strong opinions on him one way or the other is a fucking loser.
1 -absolutego- 2018-11-05
He's like half grandpa-tier life advice cloaked in metaphysics and half Jungian psychobabble, the fact that he became a prominent talking head is beyond me.
1 NoMorePoliticsFor_Me 2018-11-05
The absolute state of mayo women
1 horriblenutsslayer 2018-11-05
Wash your penis, Patricia.
1 SageKnows 2018-11-05
Wait what? OP was banned from /r/drama or from that sub?
1 no___justno 2018-11-05
She's one of us! Mod her immediately.
1 saint2e 2018-11-05
LOL no one in that thread actually watched the documentary.
1 CirqueDuFuder 2018-11-05
Many people couldn't.
1 Jimbo_B_Beterson 2018-11-05
This sub is my dragon to slay
1 NathanPrindler 2018-11-05
Saw the documentary and quite enjoyed it! So much new content. I don't understand why so many people misunderstood the trailer... It seemed obvious to me that it was just an ominous tone, and I doubt JP would have worked so closely with someone making a slanderous work anyway.
I have tons of questions for Jordan Peterson... I guess my only question for you is, are you planning on releasing more material on him?