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dude bussy lmao

>without wanted to blow your brains out?

Snappy you made a damn grammatical mistake you better edit that out darn robot

r/politics makes me want to blow my brains out, not the offical r/drama catch phrase.

I’d like to blast in AOC’s gussy if you know what I mean.

I think he means he wants to blast her gussy if you see what he is saying

gussy

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i wonder why this post is being downvoted ??

The price of salt

97% upvoted

NPC ree

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Got a meme from the current decade, bub?

https://i.imgur.com/dzKVbMC.jpg

Some people can't laugh at themselves.

the fuck are you talking about roflmao

> 8 hours ago

dumbass

6 hours ago

"97% upvoted"

Faggot

Lolololol

I know it's a pasta and all that but

"No, conservatives, literacy tests aren't constitutional."

Do American democrats think literacy tests are a bad thing? What is a literacy test anyway

Literacy tests require your voters to be alive to take.

rly makes u think hmmm

At one point you had to pass a literacy test to vote. It was a way to keep poor, mostly black people from voting

It was a way to keep poor, mostly black, people from voting

Its a way to keep idiots from voting. If you want to claim that blacks are idiots then youre the racist, not the people saying everyone has to prove they arent idiots.

Idiots have just as much right to vote for their representation in government as anyone else does

Bad opinion is bad

The only thing idiots should be voting for is the method of their execution

Don't underestimate the idiots, at least one of them is going to vote to have you strapped to them and shoved off a cliff.

I, too, am wary of socialism.

start voting then

I don't think the mentally incompetent should be helping to dictate national policy.

Case a: Trump

Case b: FDR being elected 3x in a row.

Case a: Democrats agree with my statement

Case b: Republicans agree with my statement

Is this bipartisanship?

Not partisan at all tbh

Both are shit tier presidents. Fdr just stayed in cuz muh depression and muh war

https://www.google.com/search?q=1960+alabama+literacy+test

Please complete this test to prove that you aren't an idiot.

The Louisiana one is even worse.

I missed a few but did fine overall.

I can see how it'd be a problem not knowing all this stuff in the 60s though, with no internet and no real exposure. These questions also have nothing to do with who you're electing or literacy. This is very specific knowledge about government.

I missed a few but did fine overall.

So you failed, and couldn't vote. You couldn't "miss a few", get them all right next time.

Yeah that's what I was trying to say. By passing a law like that you're allowing the authorities to create bullshit tests like that to fuck over their political enemies.

I missed a few but did fine overall.

Imagine being an idiot calling other people idiots. Its a 100% or fail genius

Hey idiot, when did I call anyone an idiot?

You failed ahahahahah no voting for this conservative. Sorry retard. Thank you next

I think you misunderstand tests: you don't need a 100% to pass.

Shit. I forgot that leftists are usually homeless bums, degenerate dropouts, or illegal aliens. Of course you don't understand how tests work you drug addled libtard.

you're the illiterate one.

Leftists are poor, homeless, jobless NEETs and simultaneously out of touch hyper privileged coastal elites.

Really makes ya think 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔

You actually did need 100% on those tests to vote.

literacy test

Is Alabama retarded? That ain't a literacy test.

Correct. It's an incredibly difficult test about the US government and legal system, intended to be failed by minorities so they could have their votes stolen. That's what everyone else said as well.

https://allthatsinteresting.com/voting-literacy-test

No it was literally written to keep blacks and other white niggers out.

Just because you can read, that has nothing to do with whether you're an idiot or not.

This was a completely different era. Most black people hadn't had the opportunity to learn at that time. So how could they vote for things that would enable them to get better lives and better educations if they weren't allowed to vote unless they had a decent education.

Not to mention those tests were deliberately confusing. Look one up if you don't believe me.

You're right. We should take it even further and make it so you can't vote unless you have a social sciences degree from a liberal university, preferably women's studies. If you don't know the history of 50% of the world's population then you don't deserve to vote

I thought womens history was

Be raped

Be oppressed

Not be allowed to do anything of note

Whats to learn?

Bam! No voting for you, wigger!

Ahaha except they were all for white idiots voting. And no, these tests were not just, "can you literally read." They were full of trick questions and other things designed to trip you up. If you missed even one question, you couldn't vote.

However, if your grandfather could vote (i.e. If they were white before the civil war

Ahaha except they were all for white idiots voting

I disagree with them there, obviously.

Still, Im all for a modern version of this. Id even debate why only tax payers should vote, net positive tax payers. That'll fuck over more white people in absolute numbers than any minority.

IDGAF really people should have to work or earn everything.

Idk if you've read Starship Troopers, but it seems like you would like it

Fascism is unironically a great idea.

On paper.

Just like communism.

They'd both send you to the camp/gulag

That'll fuck over more white people in absolute numbers than any minority.

But it will be a massive net positive for the GOP as the GOP outnumbers the DEMs in families with an income above 50 thousand dollars. Democrats would lose the vast majority of black and hispanic votes so purple states would become completely red ushering an era of Republican dominance.

http://www.people-press.org/2016/09/13/2016-party-identification-detailed-tables/

No it was designed to keep anyone it is given to from voting.

It's banana man

Most mayo comment i have read this week

Look up images of those tests. You wouldn't get 3 questions in before failing, brainlet

Lmao he doesn't even understand how the tests work. He thinks you can miss a few and still do fine

Lol you've gone so far off the reverse racism deep end ya may as well just end it.

It was something Southern States used to stop blacks from being able to vote after the 15th ammendment that made voting legal for all men was passed.

It wasn't just a test that you could read, it was long, and with very convoluted questions that were made to be misunderstood and answered incorrectly. My AP US History class took an actual literacy test from the time period, and only a couple people passed.

The test wasn't given to everyone, pretty much just blacks and other undesireables that they didn't want to vote, such as (sometimes) very poor whites.

Tbh on paper literacy tests for voting seem like a good idea. It's the bare minimum of an "intellectual requirement" so I don't think it would evolve into bigger/shittier things such as needing to have a college degree.

Though I understand that in this context it was done to discriminate against people. I imagine back then literacy wasn't that widespread in the US to begin with.

Maybe in the world of [current year] it may be a good idea but then again people are often afraid of change.

When people say literacy tests, they mostly mean "literacy" tests.

They were incredibly confusing and in no way fair tests of a person's literacy.

Just give them a standard SAT test. 900+ lets you vote (with 1000 being average on a 1600 scale.) It doesn't get more neutral than that.

Yes, as long as you are the one that gets to decide the voting criteria, I’m sure it does seem smart to implement voting requirements like that.

As I said, SAT is as neutral as it gets. I'm not deciding shit. It's basically a test to see if you're still breathing.

How often would one have to take such a test? I would pass that with ease but probably wouldn't vote if I had to take it many times

Once every 10 years sounds about right. I think drivers licenses work on the scale, and it would allow 2 presidential elections and 5 total elections per test. It's also a good way to make sure you're not dead.

what if you die soon after passing the test? you could have a dead guy voting for 10 years

Doesn't that already happen though? Anyway, he's suggesting an extra layer on top of what we already have.

Yes, again, since you arbitrarily decided that spelling is the most important factor in deciding who gets to vote, it sounds neutral... to you. Why not history? Forcing people to be good at spelling won’t magically make them able to pick the right candidate

... found the lifetime grocery bagger.

Have you really never taken an SAT?

Leave it to some /b/-lite retard to think that he can save American democracy with a reading test. What’s old is new again, it can’t fail a second time can it?

Yeah. Wouldn't want to cut remove people with an IQ under 90 from voting. That'd be half of the left.

Got em

Lol imagine actually believing this. California which subsidizes all the shitty red states and has all the tech companies you think is full of dumb people? Lol an IQ test would make the right lose most of the hillbilly and Jesus base. Who do they have left? Incels like you?

California which subsidizes all the shitty red states

California, which has the highest homelessness rate, one of the lowest education rates, the highest welfare rate, and the highest tax rate. Now that the Federal Government no longer subsidizes state tax we'll see what's what very quickly. Probably why all those libtards are moving out.

and has all the tech companies

Oh, you mean censorship central that's singlehandedly destroying the stock market due to almost pure selloffs for being super Californian shit?

you think is full of dumb people

I think I made it clear what I think of scum.

Lol an IQ test would make the right lose most of the hillbilly and Jesus base.

Yeah, it takes a real dumbass to fix a car for a living as opposed to being a maid or gardner like half of the voting base in California.

Oh, you mean censorship central that's singlehandedly destroying the stock market due to almost pure selloffs for being super Californian shit?

This is actually T_D's narrative

That's one way to spin your stupidity.

A more intelligent person might actually look at the tech stocks. Maybe give information a chance.

Do you have a single source that blames the stock dropping on tech companies banning retards?

Do you have a single source that blames the stock dropping on tech companies banning retards?

I'm not aware that retards have been banned.

LOL I like your hot take tbh

Stocks go up = trump good

stocks go down = tech companies are mean to conservatives

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stock

Well Trump hasn't been banned at least

California, which has the highest homelessness rate, one of the lowest education rates, the highest welfare rate, and the

wut? source fucking needed retard lol California is nowhere near that federally dependent. Again, all the shitty red states take the most from welfare. The also have the highest teen pregnancy rates. The sign of a thriving society.

Top 5 welfare states:

1. North dakota
2. south carolina
3. kentucky
4. indiana
5. alabama

You find the common thread their bigly genius. I think you are confusing california having a lot of people living in it for "highest rates" lol. Population density would be a helpful concept for you to learn this year in school.

federally dependent.

I stopped reading here. Nobody said they were federally dependent.

When you learn how to read I'll finish up the rest of your degenerate lies.

you said it has the "highest welfare rate" which is wrong. And points to federal dependency. You insufferable retard.

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You said it also has the lowest education rates but no idea what you are basing that off of when over 30% of Californians have bachelors degrees compared to southern states who have like 20% and boink their cousins for fun....

Unironically the stupidest thing you’ve said yet, you should be a mod here

Yeah. I don't troll antifa meetings for unkempt pussy like you so I'm the problem.

That's the problem with you people: nobody taught you to think.

Lmao the more you post the more it just becomes stream of consciousness insanity, you’re heading towards some sort of right-wing buzzword singularity-post and I can’t wait to see what that looks like.

lmao leave it to some leftoid r*dditor to get seriously mad about this

literally just admit that you're angry cause you know black people overwhelmingly cannot read and their votes will disappear from the democratic tally forever

Why not history?

Because leftoids will whine that the history includes too many white men being based and not enough crying for minorities.

Not that they won't whine that the SAT is racist because it doesn't include ebonics.

Imagine asking for tests to weed out dumb voters while unironically using the term leftoid.

Imagine being such a leftoid that you whine and cry about being called one.

Go tell mommy, maybe she'll give you a participation trophy, or maybe a nintendo switch.

Nice meltdown

S E E T H I N G

Daddy will notice you soon sweet boy.

It's cool bro, just because you religiously call the president Daddy and talk about how strong and powerful he is doesn't mean you have daddy issues.

You seem really angry dude.

Sure thing, leftoid.

Lol just so fucking angry

This is just retarded assumptions built on retarded assumptions.

I enjoy your specificity. It's almost like you're someone who's never heard of a fact. Oh! You're a Democrat!

More retarded, unsourced, bullshit.

This is like Facebook tier boomer posting

I'm not taking that shit again just to vote you stupid faggot.

Then don't vote you retarded cheater.

I'm not sure what's more embarrassing: Having one of the dumbest ideas anyone's ever heard or being such a loser that you would ever voluntarily take the SAT again.

The only reason not to take the SAT a second time is because you were an embarrassment to your family the first.

I'm going to emulate your father: don't ever speak to me again.

LMAO so the second option then. What a fucking loser. I'll take your humiliated sobs off-air.

Oh, so you didn't have a father? No surprise coming from a leftist.

Isn’t it recommended to take the test 3 times?

I’d be on board with a literacy test with infinite retries. That shit would be hilarious.

LMAO, look at this loser who thought the SAT was hard.

Spoken like a true NEET with nothing but time on his hands.

The SAT is as easy and time consuming as waiting in line at the DMV for three hours. I'm not volunteering to do either one, dipshit.

Sorry you cry so hard about having to accomplish the basic tasks required of an adult. Do you also whine about how annoying it is to have to brush your teeth or wipe your ass?

Maybe wiping your gigantic red ass takes three hours but it's much easier with a BMI under 40. Go charge your motorized wheelchair.

Wow, maybe you should take some deep breaths before you pop a blood vessel in your brain? If three hours of your time every ten years is an unimaginable sacrifice for doing a basic civic responsibility, maybe you've just made stupid life choices?

A basic civic responsibility is paying my taxes so the handicap parking spots are wide enough for you to enter and exit your van. Anything beyond that? Go fuck yourself.

Yeah, the taxes on the 17 dollars you make an hour following your promotion to shift manager are making a real contribution to society, lmao

Hey, whatever helps you sleep at night (besides the apnea mask of course).

Keep up the hustle and impress the store manager and you'll get that bump to 18 any day now, broski. Remember - if there's time to lean, there's time to clean.

Listen pal, if I see you passed out on fentanyl in my store bathroom again, you're gonna get a real talking to from my boss/wife's boyfriend.

I'm sure you only care about fairness, and not the fact that without literal illiterate retards voting for it the Democratic Party would have no chance of winning an election ever again.

I’m not a burger so I don’t have any dog in this fight, I’m just not retarded and I acknowledge reality.

washingtontimes.com/news/2018/mar/22/democrats-more-educated-republicans-pew-research-c/

Democrats lead in gender studies degrees

Not proving me wrong

You did your best.

Said the europoor crying at the suggestion that illiterate blacks not be able to vote because he saw Black Panther and thinks all black people are superheroes.

Try reading that link again. Try to remember that you are the one advocating for reading comprehension here.

The fact that the Democrats lead in underwater basketweaving PhDs doesn't change that without the votes of illiterate blacks and hispanics the Democratic party will be a minority party for the next hundred years. Sorry you don't know or understand the most basic realities of American politics I guess, but then, I'm talking to a guy who thought the SAT was a spelling test and didn't let that slow him down even a bit, so maybe Eurotrash doesn't know how to feel shame?

Spicy take. See if you can figure this out:

1. There are two groups of voters. The number of voters in Group A that have a bachelors degree or above is 40%. The number of voters in Group B that have a bachelors degree or above is 20%.

2. A test is implemented which will reduce the total number of uneducated voters.

Which group will lose more voters?

Wtf does this have anything to do with getting at least average on SAT? Just because someone doesn't go to college doesnt mean they are unable to score proficiently on the SAT you mongoloid.

Someone who has an associates degree is just as likely to score a grade similar/better than someone with a Phd in feminist tap dance theory since both have taken the same courses in high school that prepares them for the SAT.

How much of a fucking retard are you?

Maybe try not to sperg out quite so hard and then maybe provide any evidence that someone with no college education is likely to do better than someone with a PhD on an SAT-style test.

provide any evidence that someone with no college education is likely to do better than someone with a PhD on an SAT-style test.

Blatant strawman. Provide evidence that I made that claim.

Read your retarded comment again you moron, then try to provide any evidence backing up whatever the hell you think you’re trying to say. Or fuck off.

> posting an article to btfo this guy. Heh. Awesome. Wpic

YIKES

as bad as someone saying “Read a book about it” like youre quoting the bible to prove your shitty point. Gaylord.

Read a book idiot

>implying the majority of conservative voters aren't backwoods rural hilbilllies with a poor grasp on the english language and that republican voters aren't "less illiterate" than democrats

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must be a fun fantasy world to live in my dude

If you believe that fairly administered literacy tests won't lead to plummeting support for your terrible ideas, then feel free to support them, broski.

lol what

If retards can't vote we could make president goodbrains our king!

If you sincerely believe a fairly administered national standard of competency would improve electoral support for your terrible ideas, you're welcome to support one.

I want king goodbrains. He has a goodbrain to be king. Sorry haters and losers.

I thought this was some kind of meme the first time, but now I think maybe you're actually retarded?

MAGA!

Blacks and hispanics would get hit disproportionally by it so it would never get traction.

Fent country would not be into that.

Okay so think about this... Pretend you live in an area that's disenfranchised and doesn't have access to good education. You'd like to vote for officials who will serve your community better, but in order to do so, you have to pass a test that requires a decent education.

How is that fair?

Pretend you live in an area that's disenfranchised and doesn't have access to good education.

Any Democrat area. I'm with you.

Maybe it's downright terrible.

So California, Illinois, or Detroit. Shit. Stretching my empathy here man.

You'd like to vote for officials who will serve your community better

We've seen no evidence that's how they vote.

but in order to do so, you have to pass a test that requires a decent education.

Yes, that would improve all those shitholes.

How is that fair?

Yeah, why improve an area when you can just vote so Democrat it destroys your city?

Wow. Okay.

I'm probably wasting my energy saying this, but it's pretty common knowledge that there are lots of heavily Democrat AND Republican areas that have terrible education systems. In fact, the majority of states with the worst education are Southern and known to vote Republican. I think that those people still deserve the right to cast a vote and try to better their lives. Even if that right isn't taken advantage of to your standards, they still deserve the opportunity. Opportunity is what our country is all about.

But, again... I know this is probably a waste of time. I thought maybe you were actually open to having a discussion, but based on your snarky and dismissive comments, it's pretty clear you're not actually interested.

Please let me know if you decide you actually want to contribute some constructive counterpoints. I'll be around.

Wow. Oof. Yikes. This aint it,chief. Ummm yeah. Lets not and say we did.

You buy a gun then. This shit is really quite simple once you throw out the founding assumption of this country, that individual life has inherent value.

Sorry sweaty. Sucks that u were born a prole and not a higher class. Eat it up.

Ok but the test has to be in the original native language, navajo. Still confident?

No. I'm native American, and when I was born the native language was English. English needs to be enforced as the national language.

If you don't speak English then you aren't allowed here.

nice meme

Holy shit you’re a scumbag.

When the Yahoo News comments section visits r/drama

Why 900? In any case this ignores the whole "nurture" side of intelligence.

Because 1000 is average.

Twins studies have shown there is no nurture side. You're either a dumbass or you're not.

It's over for 899-cels

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It wouldn't accomplish anything.

They should make you vote for policies, and the party that gets the most policies voted in wins the presidency.

well obviously, American democracy is all kinds of fucked up, despite a lot of retards claiming how it's okay to have 2 parties and a duopoly is totally different than a monopoly etc etc

That was the whole idea with the representative democracy under checks and balances thing, so we'd just end up going around in a big circle of stupid all over again.

At some point some dude representing your interests needs to stand up or submit paperwork to make things official. It's a position that should mostly be a ceremonial crank on the unlucky bastard who drew the short straw, but byzantine rules, bloated procedure, and corruption has made it into a specialized position within the societal elite.

It's hackneyed, but government always comes back to "ya, well who's gonna make them do it?"

Though I understand that in this context it was done to discriminate against people. I imagine back then literacy wasn't that widespread in the US to begin with.

The big catch with literacy tests was that there was also a grandfather clause for voting (the origin of the term, in fact)- if your grandfather (or other past relative) was eligible to vote, you got to automatically without passing the test. If your grandfather was an illiterate but white sharecropper, step right up. Former slave? Take the nigh-impossible test.

Wow I never thought genuine people would be ok with Jim Crow era racist laws so openly, but thank you drama for showing me the retards like that are still out there

Well okay, then reply to them not me lol

Bruh...it is you. You were suggesting it.

He was not suggesting literacy tests in the way that they were used after the civil war.

Any form of literacy test is bad. Its not a hard thing.

You were very clearly putting words in the person's mouth. They clearly weren't supporting Jim Crow laws and yet you specified that in particular.

What was the era that saw literacy tests used in large amounts in the United States called?

Yeah dude, next time try reading what the person actually said. You are just chomping at the bit to shoehorn shit that was never said.

That's not consistent with your earlier comment. Specifically this bit:

Wow I never thought genuine people would be ok with Jim Crow era racist laws so openly

You were arguing against a "Jim Crow era racist law". As circusman said, I'm not suggesting for literacy tests in the way they were implemented but rather actual legitimate literacy tests.

And news flash; standard literacy tests are not Jim Crow laws (because those tests apparently weren't "standard at all") nor are they racist.

In fact, and I say this unironically and not in a "haha gotcha" way, it's pretty fucking racist of you to say standard & normal literacy tests are racist.

Looks like you failed the literacy test

The test wasn't given to everyone, pretty much just blacks and other undesireables that they didn't want to vote, such as (sometimes) very poor whites.

I think it usually operated on the principle of the Grandfather Clause, i.e. if your grandfather was eligible to vote, you are automatically eligible to vote without having to pass a literacy test, pay poll taxes, etc.

There was also the grandfather clause, which said if your grandpa could vote, you didn’t have to do any of that shit.

My AP US History class took an actual literacy test from the time period, and only a couple people passed.

It's ok, if you weren't retarded you wouldn't be here on /drama

It was something Southern States used to stop blacks from being able to vote after the 15th ammendment that made voting legal for all men was passed.

Ironically, all the people imposing those tests would have been Democrats.

Its not ironic because the Democrats were conservative back then.

Yeah, and then they switched parties, led by Strom Thurmond initially, his first attempt failing(southern democrats aka dixiecrats) and then finally settling into their new racist home, the republican party.

Yes, FDR was a noted conservative. I don’t understand this timeline...

Ok so the whole "Democrats were conservatives" meme is often grossly misunderstood, so I understand your confusion. Because while it is (mostly) true, its also a great oversimplification of the party.

So when the Civil War ended in the 1860s, the Republican Party became the dominant party of the United States, with the Democrats having just about 0 power for a period of about 10 years, and even then they wouldn't get an actual candidate in power for another 10 after that. During this period the only Democrats who were allowed to partake in the national politics were those who stayed loyal to the north (despite a number of them being sympathetic to the south); the pro-business Bourbon Democrats. This is faction 1 of the Democratic Party. They were conservatives in the same way most of the dominant Republican politicians were. In fact, they were often criticized for being nearly identical to their Republican opposition, and that's why people often say that during this period of the mid-late1800s the parties were identical. President Grover Cleveland was a part of this faction, and they would evolve over time to have members such as Al Smith. But after the 1800s ended they would be the smallest faction in the party.

Faction 2 of the party was the Dixiecrats. Now, the Democratic party being founded under Andrew Jackson's policies and beliefs of State's Rights and Manifest Destiny this faction already existed before the Civil War, but it at one time had to contend with the Whigs in the region, a Big Tent party which included some factions in the South that were nativist and pro-slavery, thus also popular in the south. But when the North, united under the Tyrannical Republican Dictatorship of Abraham Lincoln just about all the Southern Whites united in opposition to him, despite them maybe having personal or political differences with eachother before that point. But after the South was crushed during the civil war southern politics and parties were supressed during Reconstruction under Grant and the Radical Republicans. Thus, southerners had to unite under one banner: the Democrats, the one party in the North that was in 'opposition' to the Republicans. Previous Democrats, as well as Know-Nothings and Constitutional Unionists, the sucessors to the Southern Whigs mentioned before, all united together against Northern Tyranny. During and after Reconstruction these Southern Denocrats took power (sometimes violently) from the pro-republican local politicians that had been instated in these states, and once this was done and Reconstruction was fully over the South became a Solid blue stronghold. This is when Jim Crow and other such laws and measures began to be implemented across the south. Thus the Dixiecrats became a strong, imposing faction of the party. With tensions between the north and south still very high these southern Democrats wouldn't hold any chances at getting president or anything major like that for decades, but a major influencer in the national party's affairs (as the DNC had a two-thirds majority rule for deciding its candidates politicians would have to often pander at least partially to the south to secure the nomination.) This faction was socially very conservative, but economically somewhat mixed, which is important for the next section. Major politicians from this faction included Strom Thurmond, the Byrd family dynasty, George Wallace, and many others.

The final faction of the party did not come into existence until much later than the other two, and has just about 0 roots in the original Jacksonian party (the only real connection between them is that the Jacksonians were once an agrarian party, and most of the precursors to this faction were agrarian leagues.) As I had mentioned prior, during the late 1800s the US was dominated by the Republican Party, and because of this many of the large businesses and capitalists would ally themselves with the party during the Gilded Age. But these businesses and 1%ers were quite unpopular with many of the working class, and a number of farmer-labour leagues in the midwest and in some areas of the south arose, with many of them uniting behind Third Parties such as the Populists, an economocally and socially progressive party, in 1892. They secured a huge number of votes for a third party during that election. This great showing for a third party intimidated the establishment of the Two major parties, and so the parties had to take measures to secure these progressive voters before they came in unregulated by an establishment and turned everything upside down. The Republicans had originally been a very liberal party under Fremont and Lincoln, and had managed to keep a fair number of these more progressive politicians within its ranks over the past 30-odd years, including young New Yorker Theodore Roosevelt. While they continued to elect puppets of big businesses like William McKinley in the late 1890s, they would offset this by making the rabble-rouser Roosevelt his VP to give of the illusion to progressive voters that the party was also for them. The Femocrats, meanwhile, did something similar with their own young upstarter, William Jennings Bryan, but instead of sidelining him to give off an illision that they were pro-progressive, he would become the Democratic candidate in order to form a coalition with the Populists so that they could oust the Republican establishment. In the next few elections the Populists would be fused into the Democratic Party, and thus was born the Progressive/Liberal faction of the party. Socially and economically this faction was generally liberal, but as I had mentioned previously the Dixiecrats were often economically mixed, so some dixiecrats, such as Benjamin Tillman, were socially Dixie and economicly progressive. Other members of this faction would include Henry Wallace, Hubert Humphrey, and others. Guys like Woodrow Wilson and Harry Truman were also associated with this faction but their membership is somewhat complicated and I'd have to go on huge tangents to explain it, and I've written enough already.

So, in summary by 1900 the Democratic Party was basically this big-tent party made up of 3 major factions:

1) The socially moderate, economically conservative Bourbon Democrats

2) The socially conservative, economically mixed Dixiecrats

3) The socially liberal, economically liberal Progressives

All united simply in their opposition to the dominant socially moderate, economically conservative Republican Party, which itself had its own growing progressive faction. I could go into detail of what happens to all these factions but that would probably require its own post.

As for FDR and JFK, they were born into Democratic family dynasties originally from the Bourbon faction of the party dating back decades prior, but both socially allied themsleves with the Progressives who had become the dominant faction in the North.

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Conservative democrats of the south... I wonder why all those states vote red now? Hmmmmmm

Because Johnson pushed through the civil Rights act even though he knew it would alienate the racists in the south, who, at that point, overwhelmingly voted democrat.

Since civil rights movement in this country and the beginnings of the southern strategy, racists are generally Republicans. Not that Republicans are all racists, just that Democrats specifically alienated racists, mostly on purpose.

I mean that's not a literacy test, that's racist horse shit. An actual basic literacy test wouldn't really be a bad thing. If you're above age 5 and live in the developed world while not being able to read you're just pathetic.

So you have a link to one of those literacy tests? I’m really curious to what the questions are

http://www.openculture.com/2014/07/literacy-test-louisiana-used-to-suppress-the-black-vote.html

If you got one answer wrong, you would fail the test.

spell backwards, forwards

um excuse me what the fuck

Easier than getting an ID to vote these days, from what I hear.

I'm not advocating it, but this is literally 5th grade level stuff: https://imgur.com/a/r95aGgV

Was some other state really that much harsher than Lousiana?

I'm assuming their class took a different one? That is (mostly) easy af

They used to give literacy tests that we're nearly impossible to pass exclusively to pour and black minorities. The testing itself isn't the issue it's how it historically has been conducted. Like you could go look up those tests and even a literate person today would have trouble with them

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRU5Zj5QelE

lmao based ass-gaping atheist telling it how it is

The American Left thinks having any standards at all is racist because they believe deep down that blacks are inferior and won’t meet those standards.

I mean if the blacks aren't properly educated by the government and then they implement a shit literacy quiz that doesn't work at all, maybe da left is right no?

Maybe da left is right that blacks are inferior?

It's statistically proven mayos are the worst race of all and need to be culled down in demographics asap.

> deliberately exclude a race of people from quality education for generations

> keep the vote away from them

> be forced to allow them to vote, but find a way to take it away by making it mandatory for them to utilize the education they had no access to

> DAE THE LIBERALS ARE THE REAL RACISTS?!?!"

Stick to ethical videogame journalism, 'pede.

Wh*te """people""" need to be culled

They ruined the concept of literacy tests. The idea is well tainted now because they couldn’t administer them properly. Sad.

Literacy tests specifically refers to post Civil War tests used by Southern states to specifically prevent black men from voting. It was illegal to teach slaves how to read and afterwards nearly all former slaves and their descendants were very poor and illiteracy was the norm for poor rural people. Therefore they would include the “grandfather clause” where if your grandfather could vote you could to, ensuring white poor males could still vote.

This is literally what the Civil Rights Act was passed to stop and one of the clearest and most well known examples of the American right taking advantage of the existing systematic oppression of black people to target them for further disenfranchisement you uneducated disingenuous dipshit

the American right

It's ok to say Democrats. They weren't called the Dixiecrats for no reason. Trying to define American politics by modern terms like "right" and "left" when referring to politics in the 1870s is foolish. Modern left-right was mostly fully established in the 1980's when Reagan was elected.

Otherwise good post.

That’s completely fair, but tbh I don’t trust the person who made that post to be able to grasp that if I said Democrats it wouldn’t be confirming what they were saying.

I mostly stand by it though. Passing the Civil Rights Act is largely what prompted the flipping of the South and racists to the Republican Party and is a huge formational part of the at-the-time and modern conservative wing of American politics so it’s at least relevant going back to the mid 1900s, which is (I assume) more what this person’s targeting when talking about when attack the “left.”

They gave them exclusively to black people (and some new immigrants I guess) but old illiterate white people were grandfathered in - literally the origin of the term because if your grandfather could vote you didn’t have to take the test. The questions were designed to be impossible and obviously black education wasn’t nearly as good as the white schools at the time.

It's a false equivalence between voter ID cards with literacy tests.

Democrats think there should be no minimum requirements to do anything, they don't believe in personal responsibility that your circumstances are a factor of your environment, nothing else.

Brainwashee spotted.

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Eh I agree with the pasta though

Conservatives are generally pretty trash

thats fine dude, just dont expect anyone to care

Why would I?

because you felt the need to type it

That’s what this website is all about man

You care, too!

What is with the trend of saying "you cared enough to type it out"? If you type THAT sentence out, you immediately become hypocritical.

I care. And my opinions counts for a lot more than yours.

duchessIQ is not a great person

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Based and redditpilled

looks good me chief

>thinking this was not ironic

And where does the act of discounting people as 'trash' fit within the political spectrum? What type of people usually refer to others as 'trash'? If we do indeed live in a hierarchical / class-based society (as per conflict theory, where does that description locate you within it?

Conservative beliefs are bad

So people who believe them are spoiling the milk for the rest of us

I don’t believe in conflict theory which is a Marxist theory so there’s no reason to work myself in a framework around it

I don’t believe in conflict theory which is a Marxist theory so there’s no reason to work myself in a framework around it

Do you believe we live in a hierarchical / class-based society? Is that a fair description?

I believe there are different levels of wealth, I don’t think the class-based system paradigm is as clear cut as people like to talk about

Really.

Only around seven per cent of the UK population went to private school. [...] Among the current crop of MPs, 29 per cent are privately educated.

https://www.channel4.com/news/factcheck/factcheck-qa-how-posh-is-parliament

Anyway, I just think that insofar as one does agree that we live in a hierarchical / class-based society, your description of conservatives as 'trash' necessarily makes you a bit of a snob, TBH. I mean, how can it not? If you go round viewing people in those terms then you are being a snob by dint of looking down on whoever it is you (rightly or wrongly) view as being down the social ladder from you. So I think your description says little or noting about conservatives, and much more about where you apparently fit into the social hierarchy, at least relative to them. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2k1iRD2f-c

I don’t live in the UK mate I’m sure other societies have class systems differently than ours

I guess I’m at the top of your hierarchy in this scenario because I’m a “snob”? Lol

Not at all, I didn't say that. I said that your stance towards conservatives appears to be one of social condescension.

Yes, my stance is condescension towards conservative beliefs and those who believe them you are correct.

Right, and what ideology is the stance of social condescension (note that you omitted that word in your reply) most readily associated with? Liberalism, socialism, or what?

Condescension is not politically tied mate

Libertarians are pretty condescending though

Condescension is not politically tied mate

I am specifically talking about social condescension, but you keep omitting that word, and it is important to the discussion, because you did not say they were 'dumb' for instance, you said they are 'trash'.

Anyway, I think it is politically tied. The far left and far right are far more populist and (at least in theory) on the side of the common person against the establishment. OTOH liberalism and conservatism are very much based on the idea of meritocracy, i.e. 'pull yourself up by your boostraps'. See for instance here. Conservatives know this and have attempted to rehabilitate conservatism's tendency towards social condescension.

Mate social condescension is something you made up. Conservatives are not a social class, it is a series of beliefs which are trash.

social condescension is something you made up.

No it's not, it's a different way of saying 'class snobbery', as satirised in the comedy video I linked upthread.

Conservatism is not bound to a specific social class

I never said it was, I said it was more closely associated with social condescension AKA class snobbery.

This is tiring, class discrimination isn’t the same thing as social condescension which is something you created. What is your point you’re trying to make?

Good Lord, you are trash with no reading comprehension.

Stop social condescending me man

This is tiring

Tough fucking shit, stop replying then poor baby! SMH

class discrimination isn’t the same thing as social condescension which is something you created

Social condescension is a form of class discrimination; can you not just put too words together to work out what they mean??

condescension = talking down to someone

Social condescension = talking down to someone because they are from a different (presumably lower) social class!! It's simple!!

What is your point you’re trying to make?

You are clearly socially conservative. You might not call yourself that but you obviously are. Instead of criticising a group on their beliefs you snobbishly refer to them as 'trash'. IMO you are no better than conservatives because you look down your nose at people who you think are lesser than you, just like they do.

stop replying

Ok

Lol nah

Great argument /s.

I've seen better comebacks on SRD, and that's not saying much.

That’s because you don’t know what words mean

Social conservatism encompasses a range of what may be thought of as reactionary positions on social issues.

Exactly. Calling people 'trash' because you disagree with them is a form of snobbery and a reactionary position on a social issue, IMO.

Uh oh he caught me, still replying heh

I can’t resist it :^)

You can’t take one sentence out of an entire Wikipedia page and use that as if it validates your point lmao (btw it doesn’t, I’m not reactionary).

1) You can be socially conservative on some issues and socially radical on others. 2) Being socially conservative is not necessarily a bad thing, just as being socially radical is not necessarily good (a socially radical perspective could favour getting rid of the 'age of consent', while social conservatives would wish to preserve it.

You can’t take one sentence out of an entire Wikipedia page and use that as if it validates your point lmao (btw it doesn’t, I’m not reactionary).

You are socially conservative in the respect that the wiki says. BTW, I did not say...

you are a social conservative

...as you wrotehere. I said you are "clearly socially conservative", meaning you are socially conservative in that particular respect. I just wanted to clear that up, as there seems to have been some confusion there. A person can be conservative in some ways, but not in others, like I said.

Lol, nah.

Social condescension is a form of class discrimination

TIL internet shit posts are discrimination

I don't think he was shit-posting at all though; he really believes that conservatives are trash. Why else would he keep arguing about it ITT?

This dude is trolling, right?

What are conservative beliefs?

https://gop.com/platform/

at least give me a link that works god damn it.

It does tho

I'm not a burger, are they denying access to non muricans or something?

LOL that would be amazing if the GOP denied their platform to non-Americans. Classic republicans

Conservatism is the radical (and gross tbqh) belief that mayos are people.

Yeah but conflict theory can still be useful when researching and reducing biases, it doesnt make you a communist if you use it. You should look at things through all of the primary theoretical perspectives. Conflict theory itself is used by people like Sanders when they talk about wealth inequality.

Conservatism is bad and that is my biased opinion.

Right but conservatism being bad doesn't contradict with viewing things through conflict theory. My sociology class I took this semester defines it as "A framework for building theory that sees society as an arena of inequality in which groups are in constant competition for control of scarce resources". Resources can be political power, influence, money, etc. That would agree with a lot of things people from the left (which I am btw) believe, like with campaign finance reform being necessary due to politicians being corrupted.

Ok sure. Conservatism is trash because of abuse of resources and hoarding resources.

Lefties are also trash.

CENTRISM RESTORED

citation needed

Paul Ryan.wikipedia.com

This kind of reductive thinking is the reason nothing can get done in Congress and is poisonous to our country

Nothing can get done in Congress because the conservatives are preventing the good shit from passing

I encourage you to research both sides of any given issue. You'll soon see that there is no true good or true bad

Have we got a radical centrist on our hands boys

Nah, with research I have truly found that orange man IS bad

I'm talking issues. You can hate Trump as a person if you want

Orange man issues bad

You are quite literally an NPC

NPC

NPC

Cuck

NPC

NPC

Orange man bad

Lol liberals always just have preprogrammed responses don’t they fellow MAGAfriend?

mfw totally wrecked by great meme

Try to be more open-minded. You'll be better prepared to succeed in life and enjoy life a lot more

But I’m already succeeding in life and enjoying it quite voraciously

Why should I open my mind to your shit-peddling and bad memes?

Ignorance is bliss, I suppose

Upvotes to that, my good sir

I mean it's pasta but it's still not wrong.

I agree

I feel like I'm missing something here

Half a brain

Insults aside

I really don't see much here. I mean, the fact they ate the copypasta? Yeah I'm dumb, but I genuinely want to understand here

Or is the copypasta supposed to be off the rails incorrect and agreeing with it makes me stupid?

Okay, yeah

Upon closer reading, and the realization that it was aimed at all republicans and not just republican citizens, I realize the stupidity there.

Beat skynet to the race it seems

Gr8 b8 m8 I r8 8/8

Six 8!?!?

Its a triple nazi

It's meant to show how edgy and badass the left thinks it is for enacting change for the sake of change.

The fact they ate the pasta and are posting it unironically is no less cringy than Facebook moms posting minion memes.

The middle part (in quotes) is basically correct. They then added some over-the-top smugness about how superior le reddit / coastal elites, that part is stupid.

"2 + 2 = 4"

Thousands of upvotes later...

"lol, I totally didn't mean that. You guys are so gullible."

Joke is on you, they were only pretending to be a retard!

"2 + 2 = 4"

"Lol anybody who says that is either retarded or pretending to be retarded!"

"Climate change is a serious issue"

LMAO libtards ate the pasta XD

False equivalency. More like:

Ridiculous opinion

Thousands of upvotes later...

"lol, I totally didn't mean that. You guys are so gullible."

Well done, GloomyProfessional. o7

We've peaked

Holy fuck it’s worse than r/gaming

Remember that one guy who posted his ballsack to r/gaming and got to the front page?

no please enlighten me

Please

The original post on r/gaming got deleted pretty quickly, but it still exists on r/gamingcirclejerk https://www.reddit.com/r/Gamingcirclejerk/comments/8mvcdg/rgaming_is_upvoting_my_ballsack_unironically_just/?utm_source=reddit-android

Holy fuck that's hilarious

“Politics eat the pasta” sounds like some really bad high school punk band

Thank you for pointing me in the right direction.

.... should be a flair at /r/politics

Wait, so you're telling me the majority of reddit is retarded, especially the political section of it? I'm shocked!

Shocked I tell you!

How do you know the person who posted it posted it to mock the left? It being copied from 6 months ago doesn't automatically make it not worth taking seriously.

It is self evident it should not be taken serious, even if OP meant to be. Assuming you can read

>gilding in /r/drama

shiggy diggy

Only 90s kids will get this comment 😂👌

A lot of people would also think of me as an idiot if I liked the text even if it was honest. Or if I disliked the text. Or if I didn’t do anything at all.

Yeahp. sips

I honestly think the people who gilded on Politics are bots, I mean no one would truly throw money away just because someone says something they agree with right?

I honestly think the people who gilded on Politics are bots,

Not to be conspiratorial but sure lots of r/politics activity is bots. Many articles have weirdly high votes to comments ratios and votes flow quickly.

Then again I hate the place.

See Bernie Sanders presidential bid "match me" hysteria.

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I'm appealing to all of you stupid idiots to vote Democrat in 2018. That is if you have the basic education enough to read a ballot, anyway. I understand the majority of you racist rednecks can't even read this post, though. But those who can, please pass my message on to the rest of your inbred family.

We Democrats are morally, culturally and intellectually superior to you in every way. I will qualify myself by noting that I have a Liberal Arts degree from a college, which you obviously have never been to, if you even know what one is. I also have a black friend. I have been told by several professors that everything you hold dear is terrible. Therefore you, personally, are also terrible.

I don't know you, but I know that you're racist. I also know that you hate gay people and still get scared during lightning storms.

The religion which you hold closely, greatly believe in, and which brings you comfort--you are wrong because I'm smarter than you and I'm telling you so. It is one of the many reasons why you are stupid and I'm better than you.

You see, us Democrats want a system which helps everyone in the world. Our system is designed around love and kindness to everyone. If you don't agree, I hate you.

It's not too late to change. If you knew your history, which of course you don't, you'll remember a time in America when Indians were dragged away from their homes and forced to assimilate into white society. Well, we want to change that kind of behaviour (sorry for my spelling, as I'm not from your country) by making sure you go to college and have a small apartment in a big, busy coastal city, where you belong. That will help you rid yourselves of your backward, incorrect culture and way of thinking. We'll do everything we can to make sure you agree with us and say all the right things and not be brainwashed against thinking the same way we do.

All of you stupid, backward, redneck, racist, homophobic, uneducated yokels need to realize we're trying to build a classless society where we all get to live in harmony with each other, where we're all equal. If you only understood that you wouldn't be so much worse of a person than I am.

So please vote Democrat. Help me help you, you worthless motherfuckers.

All them words won't bring your pa back.

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Didn't get it till this comment

Thanks for making the ignorance of the pasta more apparent

I was told I can't be taken seriously because I mentioned the NPC meme as true.

genetic defectives. all of them.

Props to them for sticking with it?

Where's the lie?

https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Mueller/comments/b50mb5/mueller_did_not_find_the_trump_campaign_or_his/ejae2ls/?utm_medium=web2x&utm_source=share

MOTHER FUCKER THEY ATE IT AGAIN