My god I just checked your post history. There is no shaming you. This is literally your life. Just imagine how much you could accomplish if you weren’t addicted to Reddit. You’re making a difference, though!
Yeah. It sucks ass. It's like a mini-SF that's not as cool, but the Austinites try to pretend like it is. Plus if you live more than 20 minutes outside downtown it's just crappy urban sprawl. It's the most overrated city in the US. I'm trying to move but I haven't found anything that pays enough to justify moving yet. I'm hoping to be gone by December.
Dallas is better. Austin priced out all of the weirdo hippies and artists, so it has no actual unique flavor anymore. It's like Dallas with more obnoxious people and horrible infrastructure. Everything is crowded, expensive, and shitty. I originally moved to Austin for the music scene, but now that I'm in Dallas, I realize it has a way better music scene.
Thanks. I plan on visiting Texas in the near future so I would like to hit both cities ideally. But I have a feeling every city I visit in the US will be more or less the same
Take all of the shittiest people from Silicon Valley that couldn’t make it there, Amazon and Microsoft tech-bros, jam them in the dark, fogged out intestines of some large animal with everyone who survived the Kurt Cobain era, throw in a shitload of heroin addicts, concern trolls, and people who still enjoy listening to Bush... oh, and make all of them vitamin D deficient.
Going off script but Seattle isn’t that bad if you live outside the downtown city area. Close enough to transit in and hang out but far enough out from the crazies
What if they fought in Seattle tho? Then you'd have a still have a huge homeless population except they'd be battle hardened and the streets would be littered with the festering corpses of the fallen.
lmao this is kinda how I always pictured Seattle. It's where SF dumps their tech bros they don't want anymore. A tech bro kennel of sorts where SF tech bros go to die.
Each year when the forest fires begin, I pray to Allah that this entire ulcer on the western side of this great nation is scourged with His cleansing flames
I visited Seattle in my teens and fell in love with it. I decided I would definitely live there when I grew up.
I visited last year and damn was that shattered.
Like sure, Pike Place is cool and the city has an interesting culture. But the people are just so obnoxious, I just wouldn't be able to do it. Every damn place is like walking into a /r/politics thread for whatever business/residence you visit. Like, I'm just here to buy donuts and here I am having the person selling me donuts screaming about how much they hate conservatives, with absolutely no provocation whatsover. Like, I'm just here to buy donuts, thank you, have a nice day. Everything is so politically charged and it's hyper-liberal, like to the point of irrationality. Many of the people there are like walking memes of a T_Ders ridiculous over-generalization of liberals.
It's no surprise that the people in /r/seattle are absolutely livid that there exists a person in their 20s who has money in a decent job. To them, that's an impossibility and the ONLY possible way that could ever occur is by exploiting someone else. Which is bullshit.
I think the most entertaining thing to me was someone bitching about OP's privilege (after OP had already noted that they came from a poor-ish family), only to be told by the OP that they are a foster child from a war-torn African country, who has managed to work their way up and become a high-paid tech worker.
I visited Seattle in my teens and fell in love with it. I decided I would definitely live there when I grew up.
Portland and Seattle have both been ruined by SF transplants and publicity over the past decade. Your experience as a teen was probably valid, but the cities as they used to be are never coming back. It's a shame too, there's nowhere else like the PNW. If it's the place you want to be then you probably won't be totally satisfied anywhere else, but you'll be miserable if you live there too because the culture in the biggest cities has gone to shit and there aren't many good jobs outside of those cities. Sad!
Like, I'm just here to buy donuts and here I am having the person selling me donuts screaming about how much they hate conservatives, with absolutely no provocation whatsover. Like, I'm just here to buy donuts, thank you, have a nice day. Everything is so politically charged and it's hyper-liberal, to the point of irrationality.
Wait what? It's easy to avoid politics in the PNW if you don't get actively involved and ignore the well-contained protests and wheatpaste posters. There are huge white nationalist and libertarian presences in Portland and Seattle who also try to attention-whore. People in large cities that get a lot of attention use the opportunity to soapbox. If you can't ignore that then you probably wouldn't be able to handle a larger coastal city to begin with.
Snally bb I luv u but you should stick to terrorizing rural Maryland.
It's easy to avoid politics in the PNW if you don't get actively involved
Yeah like, if you're just a high school kid who tends toward the center-left, just speak your mind and write what you believe. There's no way that openly Marxist teachers will give you bad grades for straying from the party line. 🙄🙄🙄
There are huge white nationalist and libertarian presences in Portland
My family has been here for many, many generations, and somehow they never noticed this. We've got a million stories about how our guys got drafted and sent to some other part of America and were kind of dumbfounded to learn that people there actually really gave a shit about race. But, hey, what do I know? I'm sure you've read a lot of New Yorker pieces about how Oregonian black cops actually deserve to have mayo kids throwing feces at them and calling them niggers because they're actually the real racists.
Yeah like, if you're just a high school kid who tends toward the center-left, just speak your mind and write what you believe.
There's no reason why you need to shout your political opinions to the entire world or listen to the people who do. If you haven't learned how to ignore it then you need a thicker skin. You can find a group of people who believe what you do or an apolitical group of people in the PNW as much as anywhere else. I've lived in every major city of the PNW, half of that time as a hardcore conservative. It's really not that bad. There's a huge conservative presence in the American cities if you know where to look.
There's no way that openly Marxist teachers will give you bad grades for straying from the party line.
What does that have to do with living in the PNW? That's the kind of thing that made me turn into a libertarian as a teen in CA, but adults should ideally be able to base their political opinions off of policy and theory rather than what their childhood teachers and people shouting on the street have to say.
I'm sure you've read a lot of New Yorker pieces about how Oregonian black cops actually deserve to have mayo kids throwing feces at them and calling them niggers because they're actually the real racists.
There's no reason why you need to shout your political opinions to the entire world or listen to the people who do.
And yet the teacher's union allows a bunch of fucking weirdos to teach your kids fake history and give them bad grades if they don't try really hard to pretend they agree. I'm not talking about being some outspoken edgelord kid, I'm just saying that getting a copy of The People's History of the United States and being told that you can't cite any other source is pretty fucked up.
That's the kind of thing that made me turn into a libertarian as a teen in CA
Lol, you strayed from the true path while I remained a truly committed Thomas Paine-Abraham Lincoln-Frank Capra real American through my whole life. I know it's hard for mere mortals to be as right as I am, but try not to be jealous.
What?
You don't remember the ICE protest where they called the black cop a nigger? Or the one in Terry Shrunk Plaza where they were throwing shit-filled balloons and bricks at cops with absolutely no provocation? I saw the latter with my own eyes, so pls don't deny my lived experiences. I'm starting to think that maybe you have a lot of opinions about this city but you don't actually live here. Really makes you...
Kind of but not really. When Oregon was founded, there weren't any substantial free black populations in the country, so "haven for the white man" and "haven from the slave power" were the same thing. You're accusing them of keeping out free blacks who didn't exist at the time.
Anyway, this led to a culture where everyone was the same race, so it wasn't really an issue and never had to be dealt with. That obviously has its downsides, but it's a far cry from the racial paranoia and violence that was endemic to the white trash regions of the US. I kinda 🤔🤔🤔 why there's so much effort in the last few years into blaming the PNW, the region where you couldn't actually oppress black people, for George Wallace and shit. I 🤔🤔🤔 if it's because the descendants of white trash desperately want to blame everyone's ancestors for their crimes, kind of like how Germans want you to believe that everyone did genocide. Kinda makes you...
Get back to me with statistics on free blacks in the 1850s. Last time I checked it was about 1% in Michigan and New York and 1% in a few states in the south. The US Census tracked this stuff so I'm sure you can prove me wrong. You have already researched this because you actually care as much about race relations in that era as I do, right?
There's enough rural towns around both Seattle and Portland filled with cumskin rednecks screaming about bussy killing them all. It's a bit like Cali, but it's more prominent because of the fact they're not fucking two hours away, like in Cali.
There are "rural towns" in the Willamette Valley. I'm kind of confused how you identify the immigrants from Mexico and Central America who live out there as "cumskin rednecks". Really makes me think if you actually are familiar with this area or you only know it from playing a walking simulator.
She's the little girl in the k-drama Memories of the al-Hambra. It really went downhill in the second half and had a bad ending, so I can't recommend it, but at least I got this thonk out of it.
The white nationalists tend to be from the surrounding rural areas, who travel into the city to give people a fright from their confederate flags (lol in the PNW) or wave Jesus signs at colleges to try to get some frosh wannabe black bloc badass to start shit.
Still, stay indoors for May Day and invest in lots of replacement plate glass if you're a local business (because those rich SF trust fund kids love smashing capitalism by sticking it to local businesses). The culture has been getting exponentially more toxic lately. There's a reason (some) Seattle activists are starting to write about putting the brakes on the constant purity testing.
It's just aggravating that a nice city with a great atmosphere was essentially ruined by the current political climate, causing people to get so crazy that massive political attention whoring becomes a common-place thing, as well as having just random people you interact with on a daily basis also feeling the need to rant about politics.
Like, I also routinely visit places in California like San Diego, and don't really ever see the same problems.
Yeah they can be. Thankfully Seattle basically invented ghosting so you won’t ever have to worry about needing to talk to any of them. Its lovely
person selling me donuts screaming about conservatives
This is an exaggeration or you just had a really unlucky experience. Anti trump merch and shit like that will be found all over pike place but the REE’ing doesn’t really start until there’s a protest going
It’s an ultra liberal hellhole but it’s not a greentext, not everyone here a living caricature. We just have a lot of vocal retards. I usually see more homeless people in a day than I see the retards.
The famous little stand where they make the mini-donuts fresh at Pike Place with tons of people in line? Yeah. One of the people there was the one angrily throwing out political rants, the stand itself had quite a few snide comments and "political bumper-stickers" plastered on the side, but I found that was extremely common for the area. A couple uber drivers we had also delved into political rant territory. As stated, without provocation.
We were staying like right near Capitol Hill though, perhaps it's primarily that area?
Because I live there I feel the need to point out that our regional subreddits are uniquely bad even by reddit standards.
Most Seattlites range from perfectly friendly to socially awkward in a very stereotypically Scandinavian fashion but something about the weather and grunge mania here means we are over-represented in the "obnoxious pseudo-anarchist NEET" demographic. As a consequence of that, it's pointless to try and ask Seattlites anything on the internet if you don't want to be flamed by butthurt hipsters.
The best thing about it is that 99% of the time, the dumb NIMBY fucks in /r/seattle are move-ins, and there's usually some drama where another member will dig up their posts about their own fuckin' move-in threads.
I literally cannot understand why a city with a culture that can be explained as "California transplants plus starbucks" thinks it has the right to be snobby to other transplants.
White "people" have no culture or authenticity, just stop lmao.
i dont get this snobby opinion, like i know a white guy who started dating an ultrawoke black girl, so he started wearing shirts and posting facebook memes about how white people have bland food and need to season their food and i just want to ask him "you do realize you are from the one area in the entire country (south Louisiana) where white people ACTUALLY season their food" its bizarre
It's very much the champagne socialist vs. art hipster war plaguing San Francisco (probably because half the people driving the NIMBY war are originally from there).
Both sides want development, but not in THEIR neighborhoods! That's gentrification/forced diversity!
Geniuses like this in Portland have decided that's not enough, what we really need is rent control to make absolutely sure that new housing doesn't get built.
there's literally a whole contingent of what I assume are teenagers on places like /r/seattlewa that think we need to bring back soviet-style projects for the homeless.
I'd almost prefer if we were debating rent control.
Imagine being in a Soviet-style communal apartment and you had to get the committee to approve taking a piss each morning. I wonder if this is why everyone in Russia rejected that system as soon as they got the choice in the 1990s?
What gets me is it's the same profiles talking about needing government-built affordable housing who also whine constantly about the government shepherding all the poor people into concentrated areas.
Like, who exactly do they think needs government-built housing the most? This is why I think they're all teenage trustafarians.
Definitely teenagers, or they’d remember what happened last time the U.S. attempted something like that. It turned out that concentrating extreme poverty into ugly concrete towers surrounded by bleak concrete plazas just reinforced and exacerbated all the associated social ills.
Rent control only works in very specific circumstances, in most cases it just makes the situation worse. Changing of zoning/building is probably one of the better solutions.
This is true but with enough aggressive advertising we can easily replace them with tourists from Idaho, Montana, Wyoming and North Dakota. These sort of folks are preferable as visitors given that they are usually as xenophobic as we are and therefore more likely to come and buy some edibles and then turn right around and head back home.
Hell yeah. I used to have a mortgage, and when i wanted to move it was a fucking hassle. Never again. Renter for the rest of my life. Don't give a shit if this place falls apart. I just move and the owner has to deal with it.
Wtf, dude. I’m in San Diego and it’s 1400 for a fuckin studio unless you want to walk over homeless people to get to your car in the morning. 6-700 sounds like a dream come true and is perfectly in my price range.
I went to Iowa for a wedding a couple weeks ago. It was 4 degrees. It snowed. The city had like 3 bars and everyone went to all of them every day. And all the guys were corn-powered drinking machines that drank me under the table every night.
It's over for San Diegocels. I feel like I'm getting an amazing deal because I pay $850 a month for a 400 square foot cottage with a fucking propane stove. In Minnesota I was paying the same money for 900 square feet with hardwood floors.
I looked at places in SF and something like a 2 bedroom apt was $3k/month.
I pay $1550/month in rent for a 2300sf home with a fenced in backyard in the outskirts of Atlanta. If I had all the money in the world with no worries about money, I'd live in LA on the beach but for the average person those California prices are insane.
The powers that be in Seattle seem to think that they can tax their way out of a housing shortage in lieu of like actually allowing developers to provide more units. Meanwhile I'm sitting over here across the sound paying 650 a month for a one bedroom. I keep hoping that at some point or another Seattle's voters will realize that the status quo is what's really keeping them down but at this point I'm not really optimistic that is ever gonna happen.
tbh the best survival strategy for living in/around the Puget Sound is to count on Seattle to make the dumbest decision after exhausting every other opportunity.
More over, what idiot would want to pay Seattle rent probably in Capitol Hill only to also have to make the commute to Redmond every day? (My friend does, but that's beside the point)
There are free shuttles from Capitol Hill to Microsoft campus but the commute is still shit. None of the infrastructure in the PNW can handle the influx of migrants. Though tbf that's the case in a lot of cities across the country now.
I just want a sub for Oregon where you have to act like you're at least 16 years old. Wading through 100 comments by burned out manchildren who call you a "statist" if you acknowledge that cops and judges have to exist is not worth my time.
Most of my friends are either from a different city or a different country here in Australia. The fact that there are people who could take offense to that is astounding. I've never heard of something more insane.
I mean some of the people in my messages have explained to me that they don’t take kind to transplants because there’s so much Seattle disparity so I guess it kind of makes sense. But at the same time it’s WAY too much hostility , j was thinking to myself “am I really s privelleged fuck?”
You're somebody who worked hard to elevate themselves into a financially stable position while in your 20s. Unfortunately, there's a lot of absolute losers who's music career or whatever else didn't pick up and are in their 20s having to take payday loans to pay rent. So they resent you.
Hello newfag tech bro. I'm an oldfag tech bro who started in the late 90s at 22 years old. If there is something you'll always find is that people that did nothing with themselves and live in perpetual victimhood will always hate on you for being ambitious and building a life for yourself early. I always attribute it to jealousy and lots of these people have dug themselves into such a terrible place that it'll take years to dig themselves out. They try to make you feel guilty for it. It gets worse when you're older, because then they try to make you guilty for being "privileged" even though you started at the bottom and built yourself up. It's typical. They even try to tell you that their life is so much better because they aren't corporate slaves.
Ignore them. Grats on your job and getting started at a cool place.
Don't feel bad, this is a pattern in Seattle that goes back decades.
Every time a local industry takes off and the cost of living spikes due to the influx of wealth to the region idiots in Capitol Hill and Ballard will whine endlessly, until the city council passes some emotionally incontinent piece of legislation (designed more as revenge against the industry in question than helping the squawking locals) and drives the company off to a different city.
There's a reason Boeing corporate is now based in Chicago and that Microsoft maintains their campus out in Redmond instead of within city limits.
I am just going to assume you are tech, because tech people seem to be so stupid, they can’t be bothered to look at the sidebar for this stuff. This question gets posted daily. How can you make so much money, and be so privileged, and so clueless?
Some gussy hooker threatened to stab me because I ignored her walking past one time I've visited Seattle. Idk how some of these people take pride of a town of homeless Chapo camps.
If you ever want to enrage people on that subreddit, make a post that you are an engineer from silicon valley and you and the wife fell in love with the show "Portlandia" and want to move to somewhere more authentic.
Also tell them you got a lot of money to blow on a house.
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1 SnapshillBot 2019-03-01
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1 Dildokin 2019-03-01
lmao, this is perfect
1 MooseReborn 2019-03-01
if they scare people off from living there, they can stop taking payday loans to pay rent.
1 Starship_Litterbox_C 2019-03-01
And that is why they're poor.
1 corbindallas52 2019-03-01
No, because they still need to pay for the $54B rail line they approved in 2016. They will always be broke.
1 Starship_Litterbox_C 2019-03-01
Yeah if I lived in an overpriced, scum-ridden, filthy shithole full of assholes and retards like Seattle, I'd be cranky too.
1 CSEhandsomeTA 2019-03-01
Then go live in shitty Austin Texas
1 Starship_Litterbox_C 2019-03-01
no u
1 seenten 2019-03-01
Are you just cranky because you have to deal with whiny undergrads?
1 UnusuallyUpbeat 2019-03-01
Is it actually that bad down there? (Compared to SF)
1 NapoleonBonerpart5 2019-03-01
Yeah. It sucks ass. It's like a mini-SF that's not as cool, but the Austinites try to pretend like it is. Plus if you live more than 20 minutes outside downtown it's just crappy urban sprawl. It's the most overrated city in the US. I'm trying to move but I haven't found anything that pays enough to justify moving yet. I'm hoping to be gone by December.
1 muck4doo 2019-03-01
Houston sounds more your style.
1 Coonass_alt 2019-03-01
I unironically love houston. ive visited austin a few times and always had a blast but i cannot speak as to whether or not is a good place to live.
1 muck4doo 2019-03-01
You will love it. Go, and don't look back, lest you become a pillar of salt.
1 razzmataz 2019-03-01
James Coney Island and Princes Burgers are the bomb.
1 jerryjoneshere 2019-03-01
Princes got rinsed
1 throwaway-familyhelp 2019-03-01
Houston is terrible. There's nothing to do except go to the mall and half the year the outside weather feels like you live in a fat guy's arm pit
1 spookey0188 2019-03-01
I live in Houston and it's boring AF. nothing to do here, but eat food.
1 automated_russian 2019-03-01
Houston is great. Amazing food.
1 CucksLoveTrump 2019-03-01
You living in Round Rock, or Kyle or what?
1 NapoleonBonerpart5 2019-03-01
I live in South Austin.
1 CucksLoveTrump 2019-03-01
Sorry about that bud. Consider comin down her to San Anto!
1 LostWinds 2019-03-01
pinche puro
1 NoahHaders 2019-03-01
But you have the bats
1 preserved_fish 2019-03-01
Don't you have all those bats from that one cave tho?
1 Rabbit-Punch 2019-03-01
What is better than Austin? Im in California and wonder if any cities are worth moving to
1 ason 2019-03-01
Dallas is better. Austin priced out all of the weirdo hippies and artists, so it has no actual unique flavor anymore. It's like Dallas with more obnoxious people and horrible infrastructure. Everything is crowded, expensive, and shitty. I originally moved to Austin for the music scene, but now that I'm in Dallas, I realize it has a way better music scene.
1 Rabbit-Punch 2019-03-01
Thanks. I plan on visiting Texas in the near future so I would like to hit both cities ideally. But I have a feeling every city I visit in the US will be more or less the same
1 -Shank- 2019-03-01
Plus Austinites are constantly seething that you can a similar quality of life anywhere else in Texas for half the price
1 FTFallen 2019-03-01
Seattle residents seem pleasant 🤗🤗🤗
1 seenten 2019-03-01
Our favorite way of saying go away for ever is "Let's hang out some time"
1 RevLoki 2019-03-01
Take all of the shittiest people from Silicon Valley that couldn’t make it there, Amazon and Microsoft tech-bros, jam them in the dark, fogged out intestines of some large animal with everyone who survived the Kurt Cobain era, throw in a shitload of heroin addicts, concern trolls, and people who still enjoy listening to Bush... oh, and make all of them vitamin D deficient.
There, you have Seattle.
1 jewdanksdad 2019-03-01
Could be worse. Could be Portland.
1 Drunken_Sith 2019-03-01
Meh, Seattle is worse.
1 Voltairium 2019-03-01
`C O P E`
1 noxpallida 2019-03-01
S E E T H E
1 THOT-AUDITOR 2019-03-01
Portland is Seattle with less interesting geography and somehow even more Californians.
Outside of moving to California Portland is possibly the worst city to live in besides Seattle.
1 lnvincibility 2019-03-01
Going off script but Seattle isn’t that bad if you live outside the downtown city area. Close enough to transit in and hang out but far enough out from the crazies
1 RevLoki 2019-03-01
REEEEEEE STARBUCKSCEL OUT
1 THOT-AUDITOR 2019-03-01
My general rule of thumb is north of UW and east of 99 to be away from the worst of it all.
1 TrailerParkBride 2019-03-01
If all the homeless in Portland coalesced to fight all the homeless in Seattle, which army would reign victorious?
1 noxpallida 2019-03-01
Seattle has the numbers, but Portland has the meth-fueled savagery
1 Sonotmethen 2019-03-01
Ya, Seattle's homeless are all heroine junkies, they couldn't win a fight opening a ziplock.
1 jewdanksdad 2019-03-01
I wouldnt care, because just think! We would have a huge drop in the homeless population!
1 TrailerParkBride 2019-03-01
What if they fought in Seattle tho? Then you'd have a still have a huge homeless population except they'd be battle hardened and the streets would be littered with the festering corpses of the fallen.
1 jewdanksdad 2019-03-01
Still not seeing a downside
1 DoesntSmellLikePalm 2019-03-01
So nothing changes?
1 westphall 2019-03-01
Everyone else?
1 Wrexol 2019-03-01
"Welcome to Seattle. At least we're not Portland!"
Has a ring to it.
1 letter_of_resignatio 2019-03-01
And give them shitload if homeless too.
1 PrimeIntellect 2019-03-01
It rains constantly and everyone is high and gay
1 THOT-AUDITOR 2019-03-01
it's just gray all the time, we get less rain than NYC lmao
1 NiggerShitGang 2019-03-01
You made a good point until you started oh-posting. face the wall faggot
1 RevLoki 2019-03-01
MY 👏 ADDENDUM 👏 IS 👏 NOT 👏 YOUR 👏 AGENDA
1 Lysis10 2019-03-01
lmao this is kinda how I always pictured Seattle. It's where SF dumps their tech bros they don't want anymore. A tech bro kennel of sorts where SF tech bros go to die.
1 d4ddyd54m4 2019-03-01
Each year when the forest fires begin, I pray to Allah that this entire ulcer on the western side of this great nation is scourged with His cleansing flames
1 sevp 2019-03-01
huh? I assume you don't mean the ameriburger president?
1 I-need-MAYO 2019-03-01
Hey, they had some great songs... come to think of it, it's been a few years since I listened to them.
1 RevLoki 2019-03-01
Hell yeah, brother! Cheers your Monster Zero Ultra TM siiiippp
1 scott_hunts 2019-03-01
FOUND THE STATE OF LIBERTY, FUCK SEATTLE
1 NULL_CHAR 2019-03-01
I visited Seattle in my teens and fell in love with it. I decided I would definitely live there when I grew up.
I visited last year and damn was that shattered.
Like sure, Pike Place is cool and the city has an interesting culture. But the people are just so obnoxious, I just wouldn't be able to do it. Every damn place is like walking into a /r/politics thread for whatever business/residence you visit. Like, I'm just here to buy donuts and here I am having the person selling me donuts screaming about how much they hate conservatives, with absolutely no provocation whatsover. Like, I'm just here to buy donuts, thank you, have a nice day. Everything is so politically charged and it's hyper-liberal, like to the point of irrationality. Many of the people there are like walking memes of a T_Ders ridiculous over-generalization of liberals.
It's no surprise that the people in /r/seattle are absolutely livid that there exists a person in their 20s who has money in a decent job. To them, that's an impossibility and the ONLY possible way that could ever occur is by exploiting someone else. Which is bullshit.
I think the most entertaining thing to me was someone bitching about OP's privilege (after OP had already noted that they came from a poor-ish family), only to be told by the OP that they are a foster child from a war-torn African country, who has managed to work their way up and become a high-paid tech worker.
1 Coonass_alt 2019-03-01
i dont want to believe this is true, but ive never been to seattle and its been 15 years since i last went to sf
1 NULL_CHAR 2019-03-01
Oddly enough, I visited SF and SD last year and they weren't nearly as bad.
1 snallygaster 2019-03-01
Portland and Seattle have both been ruined by SF transplants and publicity over the past decade. Your experience as a teen was probably valid, but the cities as they used to be are never coming back. It's a shame too, there's nowhere else like the PNW. If it's the place you want to be then you probably won't be totally satisfied anywhere else, but you'll be miserable if you live there too because the culture in the biggest cities has gone to shit and there aren't many good jobs outside of those cities. Sad!
Wait what? It's easy to avoid politics in the PNW if you don't get actively involved and ignore the well-contained protests and wheatpaste posters. There are huge white nationalist and libertarian presences in Portland and Seattle who also try to attention-whore. People in large cities that get a lot of attention use the opportunity to soapbox. If you can't ignore that then you probably wouldn't be able to handle a larger coastal city to begin with.
1 Redactor0 2019-03-01
Snally bb I luv u but you should stick to terrorizing rural Maryland.
Yeah like, if you're just a high school kid who tends toward the center-left, just speak your mind and write what you believe. There's no way that openly Marxist teachers will give you bad grades for straying from the party line. 🙄🙄🙄
My family has been here for many, many generations, and somehow they never noticed this. We've got a million stories about how our guys got drafted and sent to some other part of America and were kind of dumbfounded to learn that people there actually really gave a shit about race. But, hey, what do I know? I'm sure you've read a lot of New Yorker pieces about how Oregonian black cops actually deserve to have mayo kids throwing feces at them and calling them niggers because they're actually the real racists.
1 snallygaster 2019-03-01
There's no reason why you need to shout your political opinions to the entire world or listen to the people who do. If you haven't learned how to ignore it then you need a thicker skin. You can find a group of people who believe what you do or an apolitical group of people in the PNW as much as anywhere else. I've lived in every major city of the PNW, half of that time as a hardcore conservative. It's really not that bad. There's a huge conservative presence in the American cities if you know where to look.
What does that have to do with living in the PNW? That's the kind of thing that made me turn into a libertarian as a teen in CA, but adults should ideally be able to base their political opinions off of policy and theory rather than what their childhood teachers and people shouting on the street have to say.
What?
1 Redactor0 2019-03-01
And yet the teacher's union allows a bunch of fucking weirdos to teach your kids fake history and give them bad grades if they don't try really hard to pretend they agree. I'm not talking about being some outspoken edgelord kid, I'm just saying that getting a copy of The People's History of the United States and being told that you can't cite any other source is pretty fucked up.
Lol, you strayed from the true path while I remained a truly committed Thomas Paine-Abraham Lincoln-Frank Capra real American through my whole life. I know it's hard for mere mortals to be as right as I am, but try not to be jealous.
You don't remember the ICE protest where they called the black cop a nigger? Or the one in Terry Shrunk Plaza where they were throwing shit-filled balloons and bricks at cops with absolutely no provocation? I saw the latter with my own eyes, so pls don't deny my lived experiences. I'm starting to think that maybe you have a lot of opinions about this city but you don't actually live here. Really makes you...
1 snallygaster 2019-03-01
Are you drunk?
1 Redactor0 2019-03-01
You make such a low-effort attempt to deflect. It just shows how much you don't respect me. It's over for redactor-cels. 😭😭😭
1 yeliwofthecorn 2019-03-01
You do know that Oregon was originally formed as a haven for the white man, right? A place to get away from all the 'darkies' and join the mayo jar.
1 Redactor0 2019-03-01
Kind of but not really. When Oregon was founded, there weren't any substantial free black populations in the country, so "haven for the white man" and "haven from the slave power" were the same thing. You're accusing them of keeping out free blacks who didn't exist at the time.
Anyway, this led to a culture where everyone was the same race, so it wasn't really an issue and never had to be dealt with. That obviously has its downsides, but it's a far cry from the racial paranoia and violence that was endemic to the white trash regions of the US. I kinda 🤔🤔🤔 why there's so much effort in the last few years into blaming the PNW, the region where you couldn't actually oppress black people, for George Wallace and shit. I 🤔🤔🤔 if it's because the descendants of white trash desperately want to blame everyone's ancestors for their crimes, kind of like how Germans want you to believe that everyone did genocide. Kinda makes you...
1 Humorlessness 2019-03-01
Imagine being this dumb https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oregon_black_exclusion_laws
1 Redactor0 2019-03-01
Thanks for posting that link that supports everything I said. You're a dear. 😘
1 Humorlessness 2019-03-01
🤔🤔.
You said free blacks basically didn't exist but Oregon clearly thought they did.
1 Redactor0 2019-03-01
Get back to me with statistics on free blacks in the 1850s. Last time I checked it was about 1% in Michigan and New York and 1% in a few states in the south. The US Census tracked this stuff so I'm sure you can prove me wrong. You have already researched this because you actually care as much about race relations in that era as I do, right?
1 JayrassicPark 2019-03-01
There's enough rural towns around both Seattle and Portland filled with cumskin rednecks screaming about bussy killing them all. It's a bit like Cali, but it's more prominent because of the fact they're not fucking two hours away, like in Cali.
1 Redactor0 2019-03-01
There are "rural towns" in the Willamette Valley. I'm kind of confused how you identify the immigrants from Mexico and Central America who live out there as "cumskin rednecks". Really makes me think if you actually are familiar with this area or you only know it from playing a walking simulator.
1 Wimzer 2019-03-01
Ok who’s the qt, I’ve scrolled down this far and see the thumbnail in half your posts
1 Redactor0 2019-03-01
She's the little girl in the k-drama Memories of the al-Hambra. It really went downhill in the second half and had a bad ending, so I can't recommend it, but at least I got this thonk out of it.
1 yeliwofthecorn 2019-03-01
The white nationalists tend to be from the surrounding rural areas, who travel into the city to give people a fright from their confederate flags (lol in the PNW) or wave Jesus signs at colleges to try to get some frosh wannabe black bloc badass to start shit.
Still, stay indoors for May Day and invest in lots of replacement plate glass if you're a local business (because those rich SF trust fund kids love smashing capitalism by sticking it to local businesses). The culture has been getting exponentially more toxic lately. There's a reason (some) Seattle activists are starting to write about putting the brakes on the constant purity testing.
1 NULL_CHAR 2019-03-01
It's just aggravating that a nice city with a great atmosphere was essentially ruined by the current political climate, causing people to get so crazy that massive political attention whoring becomes a common-place thing, as well as having just random people you interact with on a daily basis also feeling the need to rant about politics.
Like, I also routinely visit places in California like San Diego, and don't really ever see the same problems.
1 DoesntSmellLikePalm 2019-03-01
I’m from the area and go to Seattle a lot
Yeah they can be. Thankfully Seattle basically invented ghosting so you won’t ever have to worry about needing to talk to any of them. Its lovely
This is an exaggeration or you just had a really unlucky experience. Anti trump merch and shit like that will be found all over pike place but the REE’ing doesn’t really start until there’s a protest going
It’s an ultra liberal hellhole but it’s not a greentext, not everyone here a living caricature. We just have a lot of vocal retards. I usually see more homeless people in a day than I see the retards.
1 NULL_CHAR 2019-03-01
The famous little stand where they make the mini-donuts fresh at Pike Place with tons of people in line? Yeah. One of the people there was the one angrily throwing out political rants, the stand itself had quite a few snide comments and "political bumper-stickers" plastered on the side, but I found that was extremely common for the area. A couple uber drivers we had also delved into political rant territory. As stated, without provocation.
We were staying like right near Capitol Hill though, perhaps it's primarily that area?
1 d-amazo 2019-03-01
jesus christ you talk so fucking much.
no one wants to read your fan fiction about how terrible the scurry libruls are at the imaginary donut shop that never existed
1 NULL_CHAR 2019-03-01
It's ok BB, go back to drinking your juicy wuicy before your nappy wappy.
1 d-amazo 2019-03-01
congrats on finally making a post that's under 1,000 words for once you shmuck
1 THOT-AUDITOR 2019-03-01
Because I live there I feel the need to point out that our regional subreddits are uniquely bad even by reddit standards.
Most Seattlites range from perfectly friendly to socially awkward in a very stereotypically Scandinavian fashion but something about the weather and grunge mania here means we are over-represented in the "obnoxious pseudo-anarchist NEET" demographic. As a consequence of that, it's pointless to try and ask Seattlites anything on the internet if you don't want to be flamed by butthurt hipsters.
1 JayrassicPark 2019-03-01
The best thing about it is that 99% of the time, the dumb NIMBY fucks in /r/seattle are move-ins, and there's usually some drama where another member will dig up their posts about their own fuckin' move-in threads.
1 absract 2019-03-01
Seattle is filled with people who are seconds away from dying of heroin withdrawal
1 VapeOnYourNape 2019-03-01
It’s so hard to die from heroin withdrawal
1 absract 2019-03-01
Heh score one for the heroin addicts!
1 Dungold 2019-03-01
S E E T H I N G
1 MasterLawlz 2019-03-01
god damn I kinda splurged on my apartment and it's still half the cost of what they're talking
1 Van-Diemen 2019-03-01
Where do you live?
1 The_Reason_Trump_Won 2019-03-01
I hate all of you talking about cheap rents and I'm unironically seething
1 OccasionallyClueless 2019-03-01
What the hell happened in Seattle that all these homeless people are swarming the city’s subreddit?
1 ItsOverForTayceIIs 2019-03-01
needle exchanges slowed down the HIV epidemic, and this is the result.
1 Rhaenys_ 2019-03-01
damn shame
1 diggity_md 2019-03-01
I literally cannot understand why a city with a culture that can be explained as "California transplants plus starbucks" thinks it has the right to be snobby to other transplants.
White "people" have no culture or authenticity, just stop lmao.
1 Coonass_alt 2019-03-01
i dont get this snobby opinion, like i know a white guy who started dating an ultrawoke black girl, so he started wearing shirts and posting facebook memes about how white people have bland food and need to season their food and i just want to ask him "you do realize you are from the one area in the entire country (south Louisiana) where white people ACTUALLY season their food" its bizarre
1 stereomono1 2019-03-01
black Americans season their food with ungodly amounts of salt. that's why they all get hypertension
1 JollyOllyMansFatDick 2019-03-01
They also order steaks well don’t like a certain retard that has big hands and a great hairdo
1 stereomono1 2019-03-01
trump only eats well-done steaks from McDonalds
1 JumbledFun 2019-03-01
Can we really consider a bunch of sun baked boogalees white though?
1 Coonass_alt 2019-03-01
True
1 cptnhaddock 2019-03-01
I bet these are the same people who protest new housing developments. Fucking idiots
1 TheLordHighExecu 2019-03-01
Are you saying increased supply decreases prices, you greedy capitalist pig?
1 seenten 2019-03-01
Depends on who you talk to. Half want skyscrapers on every block, and the other half reeee at the thought of a detached duplex.
1 THOT-AUDITOR 2019-03-01
It's very much the champagne socialist vs. art hipster war plaguing San Francisco (probably because half the people driving the NIMBY war are originally from there).
Both sides want development, but not in THEIR neighborhoods! That's gentrification/forced diversity!
1 LieutenantTickles 2019-03-01
“Stop gentrification” screamed the symptom of gentrification.
1 Redactor0 2019-03-01
Geniuses like this in Portland have decided that's not enough, what we really need is rent control to make absolutely sure that new housing doesn't get built.
1 THOT-AUDITOR 2019-03-01
there's literally a whole contingent of what I assume are teenagers on places like /r/seattlewa that think we need to bring back soviet-style projects for the homeless.
I'd almost prefer if we were debating rent control.
1 Redactor0 2019-03-01
Imagine being in a Soviet-style communal apartment and you had to get the committee to approve taking a piss each morning. I wonder if this is why everyone in Russia rejected that system as soon as they got the choice in the 1990s?
1 THOT-AUDITOR 2019-03-01
What gets me is it's the same profiles talking about needing government-built affordable housing who also whine constantly about the government shepherding all the poor people into concentrated areas.
Like, who exactly do they think needs government-built housing the most? This is why I think they're all teenage trustafarians.
1 Whaddaulookinat 2019-03-01
That's called an HOA here
1 Timorm0rtis 2019-03-01
Definitely teenagers, or they’d remember what happened last time the U.S. attempted something like that. It turned out that concentrating extreme poverty into ugly concrete towers surrounded by bleak concrete plazas just reinforced and exacerbated all the associated social ills.
1 ConfusionConcussion 2019-03-01
Rent control only works in very specific circumstances, in most cases it just makes the situation worse. Changing of zoning/building is probably one of the better solutions.
1 MrGoodieMob 2019-03-01
1 noxpallida 2019-03-01
"house"
1 myusername_sucks 2019-03-01
1 BlindedbyOnanism 2019-03-01
Our new Washington state tourism board slogan in my opinion should read: "You got high now go the fuck back to where ever it is that you came from".
1 seenten 2019-03-01
This but absolutely unironically. Un/fortunately as Oregon and California spin up their weed industries we'll lose those tourists.
1 Van-Diemen 2019-03-01
Why don't they just go to based Maine instead?
1 BlindedbyOnanism 2019-03-01
This is true but with enough aggressive advertising we can easily replace them with tourists from Idaho, Montana, Wyoming and North Dakota. These sort of folks are preferable as visitors given that they are usually as xenophobic as we are and therefore more likely to come and buy some edibles and then turn right around and head back home.
1 seenten 2019-03-01
Only if they first sign a binding contract not to cross west of the Cascades
1 BlindedbyOnanism 2019-03-01
I'm thinking that Spokane should be both exotic enough and yet somehow familiar enough to keep them satisfied.
1 TrailerParkBride 2019-03-01
Spokane feels like it was pulled straight off the shore of Lake Erie. That city gives off some serious rust belt vibes.
1 rukawarkw 2019-03-01
holy shit seattle is full of miserable people
1 AnnArchist 2019-03-01
God damn I'm glad I don't live in Seattle. Its like 6-700 bucks a mo for a decent house around here. I mean, if you have to rent.
1 -Steve_French- 2019-03-01
1 MehmedIIDidNoWrong 2019-03-01
1 Lysis10 2019-03-01
Hell yeah. I used to have a mortgage, and when i wanted to move it was a fucking hassle. Never again. Renter for the rest of my life. Don't give a shit if this place falls apart. I just move and the owner has to deal with it.
1 -Steve_French- 2019-03-01
I didn't know I was speaking to a lowly peasant. My b
1 matike 2019-03-01
Wtf, dude. I’m in San Diego and it’s 1400 for a fuckin studio unless you want to walk over homeless people to get to your car in the morning. 6-700 sounds like a dream come true and is perfectly in my price range.
1 AnnArchist 2019-03-01
For 1k/mo for mortgage (insurance/taxes inc) you can own an 1800 sq foot home in crime free suburbs/
1 matike 2019-03-01
Brb, asking r/Seattle where the best place to live is. Jk, I tried to do that a few years ago and they made me cry (true story).
1 TrailerParkBride 2019-03-01
Where do you live?
1 AnnArchist 2019-03-01
Heaven. No it's Iowa son.
1 Nebor 2019-03-01
I went to Iowa for a wedding a couple weeks ago. It was 4 degrees. It snowed. The city had like 3 bars and everyone went to all of them every day. And all the guys were corn-powered drinking machines that drank me under the table every night.
1 AnnArchist 2019-03-01
City boys got nothin on country folk.
1 TrailerParkBride 2019-03-01
It's over for San Diegocels. I feel like I'm getting an amazing deal because I pay $850 a month for a 400 square foot cottage with a fucking propane stove. In Minnesota I was paying the same money for 900 square feet with hardwood floors.
1 Lysis10 2019-03-01
I looked at places in SF and something like a 2 bedroom apt was $3k/month.
I pay $1550/month in rent for a 2300sf home with a fenced in backyard in the outskirts of Atlanta. If I had all the money in the world with no worries about money, I'd live in LA on the beach but for the average person those California prices are insane.
1 BlindedbyOnanism 2019-03-01
The powers that be in Seattle seem to think that they can tax their way out of a housing shortage in lieu of like actually allowing developers to provide more units. Meanwhile I'm sitting over here across the sound paying 650 a month for a one bedroom. I keep hoping that at some point or another Seattle's voters will realize that the status quo is what's really keeping them down but at this point I'm not really optimistic that is ever gonna happen.
1 THOT-AUDITOR 2019-03-01
tbh the best survival strategy for living in/around the Puget Sound is to count on Seattle to make the dumbest decision after exhausting every other opportunity.
1 THOT-AUDITOR 2019-03-01
Mate you can't get a studio in the city limits for <1K most of the time, we're basically California without the sunshine nowadays.
1 AnnArchist 2019-03-01
Lol I'm talking about places worth living, Iowa, not shithole WA
1 snallygaster 2019-03-01
This is how literally every 'I'm moving to your city' thread goes in a 'cool city' subreddit, actually much less hostile than usual. Though
May as well just come out and say 'got a 12-month contract at Microsoft'
1 seenten 2019-03-01
More over, what idiot would want to pay Seattle rent probably in Capitol Hill only to also have to make the commute to Redmond every day? (My friend does, but that's beside the point)
1 snallygaster 2019-03-01
There are free shuttles from Capitol Hill to Microsoft campus but the commute is still shit. None of the infrastructure in the PNW can handle the influx of migrants. Though tbf that's the case in a lot of cities across the country now.
1 TrailerParkBride 2019-03-01
Snally are you a PNWer?
1 skipfiller 2019-03-01
I’m a permanent employee , how does that make it any different ?
1 snallygaster 2019-03-01
It was a joke dummy. But in that case, congrats and welcome to /r/drama!
1 skipfiller 2019-03-01
Oh my bad I’ve just been on my toes since I was getting massacred in the Seattle subreddit
1 MehmedIIDidNoWrong 2019-03-01
We'll rib you a bit here but know it's almost never serious.
1 LieutenantTickles 2019-03-01
Because the same question usually gets asked every day.
1 unbanwoodser 2019-03-01
You should see how pathetic the Philly ones are. Bunch of fat nerds pretending that Philly is some hidden secret that transplants will ruin.
1 matike 2019-03-01
R/Seattle is a complete shithole. I was thinking about moving there years ago and they made me cry, true story.
1 GandalftheChromatic 2019-03-01
They call it Seattle because you See it and get -attle there. Wakka wakka
1 CSEhandsomeTA 2019-03-01
Non native speaker here. Didn’t get the -attle part
1 daninger4995 2019-03-01
Sounds like skedaddle
1 KingWayneX 2019-03-01
Theres an american trope where the person says "get outta here" and the ou turns into a schwa.
It might be making fun of an italian accent.
1 Nebor 2019-03-01
T R I G G E R I N O E D
1 KingWayneX 2019-03-01
Ay! Whats that about!!??
1 usedtobread 2019-03-01
"out of" and "-attle" sound alike in some dialects of English
1 FrostyBlowmanSnowman 2019-03-01
This is a normal occurrence on r/oregon
Surprise, surprise: it's also a liberal shithole.
It should just be permanently merged with r/Portland because that's who's posting anyways.
1 Redactor0 2019-03-01
I just want a sub for Oregon where you have to act like you're at least 16 years old. Wading through 100 comments by burned out manchildren who call you a "statist" if you acknowledge that cops and judges have to exist is not worth my time.
1 almondicecream 2019-03-01
Let me make some moving threads in Idaho Wyoming and holy fuck west virginny
1 shinbreaker 2019-03-01
I can see why Kurt Cobain killed himself.
1 skipfiller 2019-03-01
Oh wow this is me lol
1 FmW-41 2019-03-01
It's utterly bizarre.
Most of my friends are either from a different city or a different country here in Australia. The fact that there are people who could take offense to that is astounding. I've never heard of something more insane.
1 skipfiller 2019-03-01
I mean some of the people in my messages have explained to me that they don’t take kind to transplants because there’s so much Seattle disparity so I guess it kind of makes sense. But at the same time it’s WAY too much hostility , j was thinking to myself “am I really s privelleged fuck?”
1 MehmedIIDidNoWrong 2019-03-01
You're somebody who worked hard to elevate themselves into a financially stable position while in your 20s. Unfortunately, there's a lot of absolute losers who's music career or whatever else didn't pick up and are in their 20s having to take payday loans to pay rent. So they resent you.
It's just the price of winning my dude.
1 FmW-41 2019-03-01
Seattle liberals have literally turned into redneck conservates screaming 'dey took our jerbs'
Amazing.
1 Lysis10 2019-03-01
Hello newfag tech bro. I'm an oldfag tech bro who started in the late 90s at 22 years old. If there is something you'll always find is that people that did nothing with themselves and live in perpetual victimhood will always hate on you for being ambitious and building a life for yourself early. I always attribute it to jealousy and lots of these people have dug themselves into such a terrible place that it'll take years to dig themselves out. They try to make you feel guilty for it. It gets worse when you're older, because then they try to make you guilty for being "privileged" even though you started at the bottom and built yourself up. It's typical. They even try to tell you that their life is so much better because they aren't corporate slaves.
Ignore them. Grats on your job and getting started at a cool place.
1 THOT-AUDITOR 2019-03-01
Don't feel bad, this is a pattern in Seattle that goes back decades.
Every time a local industry takes off and the cost of living spikes due to the influx of wealth to the region idiots in Capitol Hill and Ballard will whine endlessly, until the city council passes some emotionally incontinent piece of legislation (designed more as revenge against the industry in question than helping the squawking locals) and drives the company off to a different city.
There's a reason Boeing corporate is now based in Chicago and that Microsoft maintains their campus out in Redmond instead of within city limits.
1 lucajones88 2019-03-01
Errr how about checking your fucking privilege then techfag 😤😤😤
How dare you educate yourself to a level that allows you to earn a decent living.
Post your bussy as penance 🧐
1 LobotomyKid 2019-03-01
It's over for STEMcels.
1 OnlyRacistOnReddit 2019-03-01
/u/ Jewdanksdad contributed to that thread. Thank goodness!
1 Hell__Yea__Brother 2019-03-01
Some gussy hooker threatened to stab me because I ignored her walking past one time I've visited Seattle. Idk how some of these people take pride of a town of homeless Chapo camps.
1 S3z1n 2019-03-01
Seattle is the city that Portland tries to be.
1 TrailerParkBride 2019-03-01
Filthy and packed with hordes of terrifying bums? Portland has that pretty nailed down.
1 MehmedIIDidNoWrong 2019-03-01
480 sq ft for 2k. How in the fucking hell. I live in a metropolitan area and pay less than that for triple the area.
1 Whaddaulookinat 2019-03-01
In my metro 2.2k would get a SFH with a cute yard. And we're allegedly in the most expensive area in the country.
1 KingWayneX 2019-03-01
You can get 1500 sq ft on lakeshore dr for a bit less.
1 spookyguy109 2019-03-01
These are the same people who will call you a racist for saying our immigration system might have some downsides
1 almondicecream 2019-03-01
Try asking this in LosAngeles. Those fuckers are 1000% more hateful
1 JustStopDude 2019-03-01
If you ever want to enrage people on that subreddit, make a post that you are an engineer from silicon valley and you and the wife fell in love with the show "Portlandia" and want to move to somewhere more authentic.
Also tell them you got a lot of money to blow on a house.
1 ArtisanalCollabo 2019-03-01
Nobody likes transplants, ESPECIALLY techbro transplants (working in Redmond probably means Microsoft)
1 DarqWolff 2019-03-01
Imagine being of the West coast?
1 Lysis10 2019-03-01
It's funny cuz true. It's exactly how that thread played out lol
1 myusername_sucks 2019-03-01
Fucking LMAO