"I am an international leader, the dean of the Arab rulers, the king of kings of Africa and the imam of Muslims. My international status does not allow me to descend to a lower level." -Gaddafi
I like tacos and I'm an immigrant myself, but open borders is not going to fly with most people. For all the shit they give succ-dems for Medicare expansion proposals, they're delusional about the popularoty of open borders.
If you're talking about hispanics, they don't identify as brown or hispanic after the third generation. Many people that Americans deemed undesirable generations ago are now regular mayos. Again, we are not Europe, we have a history of assimilation.
Not recognizing Maduro's government isn't the same thing as saying the US should invade or directly engineer a coup. I wouldn't be surprised if most of neolib wanted a coup tho.
and venezulean oil is even less relevant than other foreign oil.
Only now, because there's still a lot of oil in the ME. Give 20 more years and let's see that change. You know that the oil reserves in Venezuela are recognized as the largest in the world, right?
Guiado literally tried to overthrow the government and wasn't even arrested. Come the fuck on. If anything the entire incident gave me the impression that Maduro is soft. The US wouldn't arrested at least a simialiar figure.
A Neoliberal Agnostic member of the Council on Foreign Relations and Realpolitik practitioner was teaching a class on Henry Kissinger, known warmonger.
"Before the class begins, you must get on your knees and worship Kissinger and accept that he was the most pragmatic being the world has ever known, even greater than Smedley Butler."
At this moment, a brave, patriotic, isolationist Navy SEAL champion named Jesse Ventura who had served 1500 tours of duty and understood the futility of war and fully supported all military decision made by the United States before 1895 stood up and held up a map of Chile.
"Is this country sovereign?"
The elitist professor smirked quite educatedly and smugly replied "Wrong, it is a part of the American sphere of influence."
"Wrong. It’s been 40 years since the CIA overthrew its government. If it was American, which as you say benefits everyone... then it should be a high-income country by now."
The professor was visibly shaken, and dropped his unmaned drone and copy of the Articles of Agreement of the International Monetary Fund. He stormed out of the room crying those globalist petrodollar tears.
The students applauded and all burned their passports that day and accepted Donald Trump as their lord and savior. An eagle named "Closed Borders" flew into the room and perched atop the American Flag and shed a tear on the border wall. George Washington's Farewell Address was read several times, and Andrew Jackson himself showed up and enacted the Tariff of Abominations across the country.
The professor lost control of a guerilla rebel group and was attacked with American-made weapons the next day. He died of the foreign plague Ebola and was deported to Puerto Rico.
neoliberals care about the status quo. The status quo of managerial elite and the executive class capitalism. This means, they will swim on any relevant popular idea during their existence. If the majority of people support war, they will support it too.
if the majority of people are socially liberal, then they are socially liberal too.
If the majority of the political leaders support a foreign policy measure, then they will support it too.
If the country voted for Trump, then they will lobby him for tax breaks too.
As you can see, neoliberals are pretty much chameleons in the political landscape as long as the status quo remains intact.
Similar to neoliberals are neoconservatives where instead of being socially liberal, they tend to be socially conservative, and like neoliberals, tend to want to enforce the status quo similar to neoliberals with the added point that they alone should be on the top. (in America's instance white race). The foreign policy is hawkish and flourishes on conflict. Oh, they hate radicals of any kind.
neoliberalism the sub has no strong ideology. Its composed of everyone from chapos to zozickean libertarians. The only unifying trait between them is that they tend to vote democrat and kind of like the free market sometimes
The way I see it, neoliberals are the type of people who voted for Hillary but they'd rather see Trump in office than Bernie Sanders. They hate republicans, but they really fucking hate leftists.
Depends. Trump's policy positions (such as they are) are worse, but also his ability to implement those policies is limited by his compulsion to yell the quiet part repeatedly. Sanders might actually accomplish something.
they jerk themselves off about that but there is still a decent sized chunk of AOC fans and bernie bro adjacent socdems. Usually anti-populism is just another word for anti-trump. Which I guess is really the most unifying trait in the community.
r/neoliberal isn't a very popular sub because nobody likes free market econ nerds, least of all themselves. So,in order to find some friends they partnered up with a sub called r/neoconNWO , which is full of people who unironically think bush did absolutely nothing wrong, Iraq is better now, and we should also invade iran and you're a russian shill if you disagree.
Forgot about them. I strongly believe that any who posts/comments in that sub (and neo-cons in general) should be first ones drafted if there's ever a another war and be placed on the front line. Politicians would be included too. It's over for Lindsey-Graham-cels
The /r/neoliberal sub is just dorks who want a career in politics someday so they avoid posting to post on /r/the_donald if we're honest. All their dog whistles are the same just gayer. IE instead of calling Omar a Muslim whore they say she hates America. It's fun.
I mean tbf people were 'done' with war after Vietnam, but that didn't stop the US meddling and peacekeeping in Latin America, the Balkans, and the Middle East starting not even 10 years later
Covert stuff. Can't have uppity Mexicans going all commie.
the Balkans
A rare good thing. Although Milošević was every Republican's wet dream.
Middle East
Lies.
Nowadays with social media and a highly strung population a war ain't that easy. Can't make dodgy claim. There will be 400 viral opinions within the hour.
I was actually referring to Bush Sr and the gulf war with regarss to the Middle East. The post 9/11 wars are a completely different era, and I feel should be discussed separately.
Oh no my point was that the Gulf War was extremely popular. It almost won Bush his re-election. My point is more the hypocrisy that people were so in favour of foreign intervention not even 20 years after Vietnam ended.
Similarly, people are absolutley sick of war on paper after Iraq and Afghanistan, but I wouldn't be surprised at all to see the american public turn in favor of direct confrontation and intervention in a heartbeat.
It helps that the first gulf war didn't involve extended occupation in hopes of turning a sectarian violence ridden country into a functioning democracy.
Oh no my point was that the Gulf War was extremely popular. It almost won Bush his re-election. My point is more the hypocrisy that people were so in favour of foreign intervention not even 20 years after Vietnam ended.
After Vietnam there were the depressing 70s. In rides that B movie voodoo practitioner and makes America feel all confident and nice. Fast forward to 1990 and Vietnam is a bad dream.
Secondly, Saddam also targeted Saudi. Everyone until recently basically accepted Saudi Arabia as an ally. The reason being that Saudis aren't gonna change and accept modernity. Better to maintain friendship with them. Iraq was always chaotic and violent. Can't have that.
All this and the relatively long time span, made a direct war popular I guess.
but I wouldn't be surprised at all to see the american public turn in favor of direct confrontation and intervention in a heartbeat.
I'd be slightly surprised. Even conservatives are slowly but steadily isolationist. Everyone has realised that once war happens, refugees happen. Can't have that. Plus, some people just want them to implode on their own.
Isis was comically evil. Thus Syrian strikes were supported. Venezuela however ? Don't think so.
I'd be slightly surprised. Even conservatives are slowly but steadily isolationist. Everyone has realised that once war happens, refugees happen. Can't have that. Plus, some people just want them to implode on their own.
Isn't there already a massive refugee crisis from the vzla? Heard the neighboring countries are bearing the brunt of it!
I wouldn't be surprised if their "free education" was trash in terms of quality but the neighbouring countries aren't exactly prosperous first world nations with plenty of high skilled job vacancies.
Yes but they're capitalist shitholes whose citizens are bumpkins. Socialist Venezuelans should due to their superior education, walk in like conquistadors and steal all/every white collar jobs.
It depends on the market where you live. I know a bunch of pit musicians who do pretty well. If your country or city is music mad, you can do alright as a musician.
That's true. Not saying musicians can't find jobs but there are 2+ million people going into relatively poor countries where a good music education might not be the most in demand skill.
Oh I know. I just think La Sistema is a positive thing—perhaps the one of the few in VA these days. Even if you don't make it a career, the ability to play an instrument is life-improving. Unlike, say, the ability to write a paint-by-numbers eco-critical Gramscian take on Henry James's novels.
Even conservatives are slowly but steadily isolationist. Everyone has realised that once war happens, refugees happen. Can't have that.
Huh ive never even considered this theory before actually, but it makes a lot of sense. Its like there's a desire to move towards Pre-Rooseveltian, and especially Pre-Wilsonian, foreign policy. Kinda like Coolidge style conservativism of the 20s. I know paleoconservativsts claim this belief on paper, but I never saw any sort of merit to the idea they actually believe it. Maybe this really is the case.
Even Europe is becoming strongly isolationist. Hell there's a push back against globalism. I remember TD cheering when Daddy pulled out and yearning for more.
Its not really isolationism, I think its more non interventionism. Fortunately America is in a pretty good spot where we don't directly see why war is hell, However after 15 years of an occupation with nothing to show for it, I hope it's making everyone question what the fuck we're hoping to accomplish.
We need to stop pretending like we give two shits about freedom and democracy when we really don't. We don't care about Venezuela or Syria, we keep fucking up what little semblance of a functioning government countries like these have. Its bizzare to see the Democrats become the pro war party.
Its bizzare to see the Democrats become the pro war party.
It's not really that strange. Wilson, FDR, Truman, and LBJ got us into the major wars of the 20th century. And Clinton and Obama subscribed to a somewhat reduced, post-Vietnam brand of liberal intervention.
Only about half the Dems even rejected W & co's outright imperialist war.
Lies aided that. Nowadays with social media and a highly strung population, a war ain't that easy. Can't make dodgy claim. There will be 400 viral opinions within the hour.
Remind me again how much impact r/politics together with those 60 fart sniffers has on the real world.
It's none. Nobody gives a shit.
The only difference between back then and now is that retards have an audience. That doesn't mean the audience is gonna do more than violently hit the "reply" button and sperg out on Reddit for a few days.
Okay, correction from the beta brain (me): is supporting a murderous dictator opposing american interventionalism? Because she didn't just oppose the idea of a military intervention, she called the only democratically elected body in vuvuzela far-right and endorsed a murderous dictator.
She didn't endorse Maduro, but she is fairly retarded (the far right nonsense for example). She said she sides with the Supreme Court of VA in not recognizing an unelected dude as president and is waiting for new elections.
I don't at all support Maduro, but if we plan to intervene in every country where the leader is a piece of shit dictator we are going to need a lot more military spending and cannon fodder immigrants.
She said she sides with the Supreme Court of VA in not recognizing an unelected dude as president
1)The current supreme court was filled with maduro cocksuckers by the previous lame duck national assembly, which was literally a puppet of maduro, right after the opposition won the elections for the current national assembly. And that's just a part of the shady shit maduro, chavez and their supporters have done to turn venezuela into a dictatorship. The judges have also been receiving threats from the chavez's and maduro's administartions apparently.
Oh and they also stripped the newly elected national assembly off three opposition members on bullshit reasons, preventing the opposition for having power over maduro.
2)He was elected, he's the head of the national assembly, the only part of the venezuelan government elected by the people. And he is the interim president. His job is to hold elections.
3)She called the whole opposition far-right, trying to delegitimize it.
From all that we conclude that, yes, she did, in fact, endorse maduro.
and is waiting for new elections.
Fair elections won't happen while maduro is in power.
I don't at all support Maduro
Doubt. Let me guess, you're gonna be like one of those people who go like "well, I don't support stalin...but holodomor was exaggerated and not his fault", or something like that. Seen your type.
but if we plan to intervene in every country where the leader is a piece of shit dictator we are going to need a lot more military spending and cannon fodder immigrants
Then don't attack the opposition and stop supporting the dictator. And stop trying to blame the assness of venezuelan situation on the sanctions. And stop trying to paint the aid as a trojan horse. Or summarized: stop repeating maduro's talking points. You can be against military intervention and against maduro. Have you not heard of radical centrism?
Wait, FUCK, I TOOK YOUR BAIT AND LONGPOSTED ABOUT FUCKING POLITICS ON FUCKING DRAMA AGAIN.
You can be against military intervention and against maduro.
I pretty clearly am. You took "we shouldn't intervene even if another country's politics is basically fucked" and used it to write an essay jerking yourself off.
...a retard? You support omar. She endorsed maduro. I explained to you while she did in fact support maduro and you got triggered by that. And you keep repeating maduro's talking points. Who the fuck are you trying to trick?
I support non-intervention in the absence of genocide and sterilization for unfunny chronic long posters who can't write a sentence without lapsing into reddit speak.
I support non-intervention in the absence of genocide
Three things:
1) Is aid intervention? Is america saying they consider guaido legitimate and maduro illegitimate intervention?
2) If you don't support military intervention and don't support maduro, don't support omar and stop repeating maduro's talking points.
3) So maduro starving people, including kids, shooting protesters, kidnapping and torturing prisoners and implementing extrajudicial killings (8200 between 2015 and 2017) isn't bad enough for you?
sterilization
First of all, not needed, I've never seen a naked person in my life. Second of all, if anything, you should be the first one in the queue, since you're unironically trying to excuse a female muslim version of daddy. Maybe a little bit less retarded but the religiousness and age will make up for it.
I repeated her talking points only to show that you were objectively wrong that she endorsed Maduro. Are you too fucking stupid to find a real leftist to rant at?
And I explained to you that she literally was endorsing maduro and you ignored it. And then I explained to you that you're quite literally a retard who can't explain his own views and asked two questions. And you ignored it again.
Are you too fucking stupid to find a real leftist to rant at
My goal isn't to rant at a leftist here, my goal is to promote the interests of israel's foreign policy...Wait no, I mean, my goal is to rant at someone who's saying dumb shit. Or that's what I started doing for some reason, instead of jerking off as I was planning.
She endorsed Maduro in the same way opposition to the Iraq war was an endorsement of Saddam Hussein. Weird how regime changes are usually urgent humanitarian crisis when they are happening on top of oil fields 🤔🤔🤔
The more the US gets involved the worse shit will get and that's true no matter who says it.
She endorsed Maduro in the same way opposition to the Iraq war was an endorsement of Saddam Hussein.
No, again, she endorsed maduro because she:
1) said that supreme court, maduro's puppet, is legitimate
2) called the opposition far right, trying to delegitimize all of maduro's opponents
3) echoed maduro's main lies, including calling the opposition far right, calling guaido a fascist, repeating his bullshit rhetoric about the aid (majority of which isn't even from US) and even the part where he claimed that US was trying to invade with military under the guise of aid, saying that US "installed" the oposition and guaido and etc
How is that anything even remotely close to the iraq war?
Weird how regime changes are usually urgent humanitarian crisis when they are happening on top of oil fields
Ah yes, so much fucking oil in *checks notes* yugoslavia...korea...germany...wait.
The "US comes for muh oil" meme is funny but retarded and you're retarded for believing it unironically. Look at the exports in those countries to america, including before and after. Iraqi oil for example is like 5% of US oil import and it was higher before the war. Also, venezuelan oil has got shit quality and is hard to get and it would bring very little profit.
The more the US gets involved the worse shit will get and that's true no matter who says it.
Well yeah, that's why US hasn't invaded yet. Stop repeating maduro's rhetoric and simply oppose the people calling for a military intervention in the US government, you don't have to repeat maduro's rhetoric to do that, like omar is doing.
You might be unironically retarded. Who is now exporting that oil, which is now being extracted at about twice the prewar rate, is the industry still nationalized? Saying that the idea that wars are about resources is a """meme"""" is just peak contrarian idiocy.
I'm assuming the fact that you ignored the first part means that you finally admit that omar endorsed maduro, right? Also that your "it's the same as opposing iraq war and hussein" shtick was full of shit.
Now, you also appear to admit that not all of US interventions were in oil rich regions. Thank you.
Who is now exporting that oil, which is now being extracted at about twice the prewar rate, is the industry still nationalized?
US is importing less oil from iraq now than it did before the war. About 5% of the import. Majority of iraq's oil goes to china and the rest of asia actually. And the industry grew severalfold, bringing iraq as much more money:
According to Business Insider, Iraq’s revenue from oil in 2003 before the war was only 5 billion. In 2011 Iraq got 85 billion in revenue.
Anyways, in conclusion, my work here is done (refer to the first paragraph). Except for this:
"""meme""""
Equal number of quotation marks on both sides, is that too much to ask?
I assume that my repeating the same retarded thing eight times means that you have conceded my point. Now here are some tangential facts I just googled.
Dude, come on, don't be a toxic leftist trash. I presented you with arguments, either refute them or admit that you were full of shit.
Now here are some tangential facts I just googled.
Which directly challenge your point. US hasn't started to import more oil from iraq, iraq even gave US a deal to give them some privilleges in oil...stuff, don't wanna google now, iirc, to hold off the invasion and US declined. Moreover, iraq now gets 17 times more money from the industry and all the extra oil goes to fucking china.
Come on bro. Either debate (I fucking hate this word being used on reddit) or admit you were wrong. Stop trying to attack me instead.
He looks and acts like the world's oldest child and he because his dad doesn't understand at all how economics works he got to be a US senator. It's the American dream realized.
Because civic nationalism is a meme and only mayos want to be American. She probably sees herself as a temporarily embarrassed queen that shall return to her Somalian empire after she slaaays the Zionist menace.
Same reason they did back in the 60s: some people just don't like the traditions and culture of their nation-state. Nothing wrong with that, just like there's nothing wrong with being a jingoist. Both ideologies should be respected.
Not gonna get all that much argument from me there, except for maybe to say that you're not thinking nearly far enough back in where things went wrong. The Enlightenment, probably, but maybe farther.
The Babylonians built the greatest phallic symbol of all time, it even made god jealous to the point that he destroyed it and created foreign language. Rome have small pp in comparison.
All the rich and/or brilliant talents around the world came to the US for the free sex. Soviet Union could have survived if they provided bussy like we did.
In reality, whether youre surrounded by loopy trannies or blood thirsty rednecks, most people Ive dealt with will help you if you need it. We just whine too fucking much.
Well sure, but postwar consumer capitalism was the petri dish that spawned the counter culture, right?
Its probably just a coincidence that Jim Morrison's dad was the admiral in charge during the Gulf of Tonkin incident and Frank Zappa's dad developed chemical weapons for the Army, but facts like those make for a fun conspiracy theory about CIA psy-ops and controlled opposition: http://centerforaninformedamerica.com/laurelcanyon/
some people just don't like the traditions and culture of their nation-state
The fact that those same people are perfectly fine with similar yet worse traditions and culture of the other country they hold citizenship in sort of tell you they are more about hating this country instead of hating specific parts about it.
I suppose, but I was more thinking with regards to like the hippies, who were home grown americans and still espoused anti-american sentiments, which there's nothing wrong with doing.
the hippies promoted the panthers, and thus the nation of islam, so uh yeah they would.
People don't seem to understand what the hippies actually were. They're nearly identical to the millennial student movements birthed out of the Bush Era (think Occupy and those which came after it). The only real difference was the year and the war (Iraq vs. Vietnam)
support for islamic nations and groups is justified as support against islamophobia, too. Muslims got discriminated against heavily in the west after 9/11, where prior they weren't treated much differently than any other immigrant group. Progressives wanted to fight that new wave of discrimination, and so started to defend muslim practices, even the awful fundamentalist ones, to fight that perceived racism. just like how hippies supported even the awful conservative black nationalists as a means to fight against the perceived racism of the time. Again, nearly 0 difference.
Also the USSR may have supported anti-war efforts but its not even at all like they were close to the driving force. It was an unpopular war on the homefront, because it became clear there would be no victory. Students and young adults would be protesting to bring the troops home anyway so they wouldn't have to fight and so that their brothers and sons would return to them safely.
Islamophobia not meant as on being anti-islam, but as being anti-Arabic. Progressives chose the worst possible word when they decided to coin it, but thats essentially what they meant. Its the same as how anti-semetic doesn't mean being against the jewish religion but rather against its people. They didn't like how arabs were being stereotyped as terrorists.
How christians are treated in the middle east is completley irrelevant to what I'm referring to. LGBTQ peoples are generally treated like garbage in black communities, but progressives will still argue on the behalf of more socially conservative black communities, despite how they are also fighting against homophobia.
You're pretty clearly trying your hardest to not understand the progressive point of view.
Because she unironically is amazingly accessible and helpful in any way she can be to her constituents which matters more to them than anything she might say or tweet.
Source: I am a constituent who voted for her and who’s line of work requires a lot of interaction with various levels of the local, state and federal government. She is unironically amazing to work with and genuinely cares about the people she represents.
Except for the parts where she managed not to author, or co-author a single bit of passing legislation. The thing that's her job.
Also she was tremendously unavailable to the University district when she was rep, instead only representing Cedar Riverside, aka Somaliland, aka the place with constant shootings and muggings of University students.
Lmao she was in the state legislature one term after being elected in 2016 homie. Freshman legislators never author or co sponsor legislation . I can discount the rest of what you wrote because you’re clearly biased af based on your dishonest smear in the first part. Go be a whiny faggot somewhere else.
My 10 years in that part of the city says otherwise.
So does my 29 years of birth, living, working, schooling and graduating in south Minneapolis , literally the heart of the 5th congressional district automatically give me more credibility in this colossally retarded line of argument you’ve introduced?
And yeah, it's somaliland. Land of the Somali's. And law students who get robbed because they're walking back to their apartments at 8 pm.
Sorry you’re such a low t mayo manlet and that your anecdotal evidence is incredibly compelling and relevant to a state legislator who repped that district for 1 term.
Clearly qualified for federal government. She has a total of 2 years of local government under her belt!
Which ironically is two years more governmental experience than the alpha Chad who currently occupies the Oval Office.
So does my 29 years of birth, living, working, schooling and graduating in south Minneapolis , literally the heart of the 5th congressional district automatically give me more credibility in this colossally retarded line of argument you’ve introduced?
You questioned whether he was a local or not and then whine when he mentions how long he's been there?
You live in South Minneapolis, not 60B. She wasn't your state rep. She was mine. She was completely unresponsive and spent her time touring on a national progressive campaign. Considering her district is 20% CR, and 80% University, I find it a little odd that she'd spend more time on CR issues and preening for the media than fixing the problems that were on the west bank with regards to student crime rates.
Don't you know where congressional districts are? Or you wanna just keep slinging insults.
This is drama you whiny faggot, there is no pearl clutching allowed. You’re correct I did not live in 60b the district she represented in the Minnesota house but if you read my reply I said that my business in her district lead me to interact with her and her office on a regular basis. I do live in MN 5th congressional district so she is my elected congressional representative.
There is zero reason to cuck to them and try and be likable so that you can throw your name in a corrupt piece of crap that would've been passed anyway
Not in her district which is extremely left. I don’t think she has designs on a higher office so she’ll be alright. Her stance on Venezuela is one of a few areas I strongly disagree with her tho I’m sympathetic to her point of view since America doesn’t exactly have a sterling history of democracy promotion at the barrel of a gun across the globe.
In terms of optics it is suicide regardless of her constituents. Only far leftists (self proclaimed socialists and the like) agrees with her on Venezuela. Literally most of the world will be ok with intervention.
I don’t disagree all I’m saying is that practically speaking there’s zero chance that her position on Venezuela will jeopardize her re-election prospects.
Her particular district being far left is a very, very tiny minority and it could seriously disrupt the Hispanic votes for the democrat party and losing 20% of the vote isn’t a joke, man.
I also understand the opposition towards interventionism but I don’t think far leftists have any idea how dire the situation is over there.
Tell us more about how the normal Cedar Riverside resident cares so deeply about the Venezuelan leader. Every person I know who lives over in her district regrets their vote each time she opens her mouth.
Wow, thank man. Did working with her inspire you to be a dick as well or was that a natural personal growth?
Everyone knows the biggest issue facing her district, mainly comprised of First and Second generation immigrants from Somalia, is that big ole scary National Assembly in Venezuela and the super real american plans to do something about it. Not ICE, or jobs, or immigration; nah its the South American country most people mix up with Colombia.
Yeah, because your average American gives a shit about this issue.
Your average American doesn’t like dictators and socialists so when they see a politician with a big ass D next to their name they automatically assume the entire political party is supportive of said dictator which would be like Trump backing a far right dictatorship in the Middle East or whatever. Like they don’t care about the intricacies of it they just know dictator=bad
Lol dude she had 5 primary opponents and she only won with 48% of the vote. Keith’s endorsement obviously helped but Margaret Anderson kelliher her closest opponent ran strong with like 30% of the vote. I can’t remember any incumbent 5th district representative ever losing to a challenger so her seat is probably safe long term.
Hating America is a really really intellectually lazy way to signal that you're woke and know of bad things the United states has done(often in the face of a no win situation but there are no points for nuance). It's like communism, it's super easy to criticize imperfect systems that have the disadvantage of existing in reality and really hard to actually improve them or create new functioning systems so you get all the low hanging fruit of looking smart and virtuous by criticizing but with none if the hard work of actually affecting change.
Its pretty much 90% of the conspiracy community on reddit, as soon as the US (excluding daddy) turns against an authoritarian regime they start talking about how they are really good guys fighting the cabal.
How can someone vote for a politician who overtly and loudly hates the country it is trying to be a politician for?
When has she said she hates this country? I haven't been paying attention to her.
As per why someone would vote for someone like that, those people probably have a campaign slogan like "the country sucks and I'm going to make it better"
There is no objective line where you can love the country but hate some part of it. Saying that someone hates something about the country is not incompatible with them loving the country.
Unironically the huge lack of patriotism on the left is a sign they don't like America.
Trying to show to the world how patriotic you are just seems so unimportant. You can like something without feeling the need to mention it all the time.
Oh, heck, I used the wrong word. Uhhhh just ignore it pls.
Anyway, she's a dumb cunt. With emphasis on the "dumb" rather than "cunt". Remember when she decided to defend the black israelites of all people? And now she literally shills for a murderous dictator. She either just trying to be contrarian and cause controversy, similar to orange daddy's strategy, or she's a mouthpiece for something. Or both.
This was Trump's main message during the campaign trail and it worked. He was saying America was in the shitter during during a time of economic surplus, and he wanted to MAGA. The dems were saying America is already great. It's a decent strategy.
They banned me for "brigading" ie: commenting about how supporting Pinochet as a "liberal" is fucking stupid since he murdered/tortured/raped so many liberals along with the leftists. Lmao.
MAybe that’s cause you’re a chapo idiot who doesn’t come over in good faith? Sounds like your addition to the discussion was as useful as your complaint, aka not very.
It's just a tactic to help Palestine win support. Dishonesty as far as the eye can see, is what you get from a progressive. I mean you get the same dishonesty from a conservative too, so neither side is all that great.
Does she hate America as a country? I mean probably, in the same way most progressives tend to, or at least dislike it.
Does she hate Jews? Not gonna say for sure, but it obviously wouldn't surprise me. She's obviously a fucking idiot, so it's perfectly reasonable she is just a useful idiot who parrots antisemitic talking points and not actually biggotted. No reason to pretend to be 100% sure she's a bigot when it can be explained by her already apparent stupidity.
Also are you part of the 0.1% of leftists that isn't a faggot that I've been hearing so much about?
Criticism of Israel isn't antisemitic unless Israel is criticized for its Jewish identity. Most Jews don't live in Israel, and millions of Jews oppose the actions or even existence of that county. To conflate Israel and Jews is itself quite antisemitic.
Israel are a lot like pit bulls. They’re sweet doggos. Sure, they might bite your kid’s face off for offering them head pets but they didn’t meeeean to! Then everyone is mad at all pit bulls/Israelis just because of a few thousand mutilated kids! It’s not fair...
Isreal is an illegitimate apartheid "state".
Palestine should be its own country.
r/drama gets extremely salty whenever anyone points out that American foreign policy is invading other countries for corporate profits, not "democracy" bullshit.
Notice the flair. Now, this word comes from the term "white ethnostate", describing a hypothetical state with only mayos and zero minorities being physically present. Doesn't fit israel.
LMAO. Israel is a legit state. since the UN made it one in 1947, as well as creating an Arab state of Palestine....but guess what....Arabs attacked the flat broke and new state of Israel, and got their asses pushed in. Later on during the 6 day war Israel fought Egypt, Syria, Jordan and Iraq. Because Israel kicked the shit out of them all in 6 fucking days.
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Israel has:
-The only Democracy in the Middle East
-Arabs as citizens of Israel, and serving in government
-Equal right for women
-Gay rights
Palestinians:
-Pseudo government / terrorist organizations that kill each other half the time
-No rights for women, gay people
-No rights for Jewish people, infact you can be put to death in many arab countries for being a non-Muslim
-An agenda to kill all jews
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Only in America and on the internet can someone say Isreal are the terrorists when Palestinians have been firing Iranian provided rockets into them for decades. Nigga Please
I am an antifascist. I support the dictator who let's his people starve to keep himself in power for as long as possible because I have a hate boner for the country that won WW2.
If America really cared about the Venezulan people it would work with Maduro to provide them aid. It would do so through the appropriate UN agencies, rather than trying to force their way into the nation without no legal permission or authority.
The US doesn't care though. If the famine were ended, it would be counterproductive to their true purposes.
Lol, at calling him far right. He is probably closer to Berni Sanders then someone on the far right.
Juan Gerardo Guaidó Márquez born 28 July 1983is a Venezuelan politician who has been serving as President of the National Assembly of Venezuela and as the partially recognized interim President of Venezuela since January 2019. He is a member of the centrist social-democratic Popular Will party, and serves as a federal deputy to the National Assembly, representing the state of Vargas.
They can call themselves social-democrats, but Guaido is pretty much just a neoliberal complete with wanting to open bidding to privatize the hydrocarbon industries and taking IMF refinancing which will result in restructuring most government programs to public-private partnerships and austerity measures.
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1 SnapshillBot 2019-03-04
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1 MikeStoklasaAlcohol 2019-03-04
I thought neolibs were anti-war (especially after Iraq)? I don't expect much from a clearly dying ideology, but still.
1 FinalchangeX 2019-03-04
Who knows? maybe they just want to continue giving pressure through sanctions.
I doubt the US will go all in militarily even with Trump.
1 vlad_khur 2019-03-04
No not at all. Libya invasion was in 2011 supported by the neolib prophet HRC
1 xlhat 2019-03-04
It takes a village and other lessons to topple that raping Bedouin. You're just a jealous orange fan.
Breathe out. Scream later. She was right. 😎
1 vlad_khur 2019-03-04
Gaddafi did nothing wrong
1 xlhat 2019-03-04
Exactly, Libyan bitches were just playing hard to get. Thus fro their own safety he stored them in his basement.
1 ShakraDevendra 2019-03-04
Based and maddogpilled
1 unstable_asteroid 2019-03-04
He banned chocolate, blue jeans, and movies.
1 Sarge_Ward 2019-03-04
Two of those 3 things deserved to be banned
1 rileykard 2019-03-04
So... chocolate is the good one?
1 Sarge_Ward 2019-03-04
i leave that up to your interpretation.
1 Kiru-Kokujin36 2019-03-04
chocolate is bad for your health and movies are mostly western propaganda and serve to dumb people down
blue jeans look like shit
1 MikeStoklasaAlcohol 2019-03-04
RIP Gaddafi. Truly an apostle of centrism
1 qasterix 2019-03-04
"I am an international leader, the dean of the Arab rulers, the king of kings of Africa and the imam of Muslims. My international status does not allow me to descend to a lower level." -Gaddafi
1 natedogg787 2019-03-04
"Stop bayonetting my anus!" - also Gaddafi
1 AssWizardOfSiberia 2019-03-04
Fucking lmao
1 ineed750bucks 2019-03-04
He died like he lived - something something a pain in the ass
1 MikeStoklasaAlcohol 2019-03-04
Based and green-booked
1 rileykard 2019-03-04
He was... fabulous, a true diva.
1 GotDatWMD 2019-03-04
HRC was also involved with the Honduran coup. Result of that is a bunch of Hondurans are now at the US-Mexico border.
1 jailbot3 2019-03-04
After all, how else are you going to get hordes of desperate brown people willing to work for pennies flooding your labor market?
1 xlhat 2019-03-04
What about all that food and Diversity TM
1 MikeStoklasaAlcohol 2019-03-04
No one cares about neo-libs anymore. It's not 1989.
1 xlhat 2019-03-04
What, you don't like open borders, taco trucks and diversity, multi culture ? What're you a fascist or something ?
1 MikeStoklasaAlcohol 2019-03-04
I like tacos and I'm an immigrant myself, but open borders is not going to fly with most people. For all the shit they give succ-dems for Medicare expansion proposals, they're delusional about the popularoty of open borders.
1 xlhat 2019-03-04
No no no. You don't understand. Free labour means corporations just create jobs for all because more consumption etc...
There is no wage stagnation whatsoever. No sir.
1 kaufe 2019-03-04
This but unironically
1 hypernormalize 2019-03-04
We have the recipes.
1 MikeStoklasaAlcohol 2019-03-04
Exactly. Open-borders-cels think that for some reason recipes can't be passed down or what ever.
1 muck4doo 2019-03-04
Oh, they are trying hard to make sure that doesn't happen:
https://www.intellectualtakeout.org/article/taco-tuesdays-days-might-be-numbered-because-cultural-appropriation
1 rileykard 2019-03-04
Can you imagine gatekeeping food? Worse, gatekeeping tacos.
1 xlhat 2019-03-04
Yup.
https://metro.co.uk/2018/08/03/cultural-appropriation-of-food-is-not-ok-so-i-wont-be-watching-gordon-ramsay-uncharted-7791627/
https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/food-and-drink/marks-spencer-biriyani-wrap-cultural-appropriation-m-s-a8753661.html
1 jailbot3 2019-03-04
"Cultural appropriation" is just the extension of neolib intellectual property norms to all aspects of human cultural exchange.
1 xlhat 2019-03-04
Yeah but it won't be authentic. REAL ethnic food, needs their sweat and other fluids mixed in. That's the secret sauce.
1 kaufe 2019-03-04
America is not Germany, we need immigrants if we want to keep a welfare state.
1 MikeStoklasaAlcohol 2019-03-04
Fine, but open borders is not a popular policy. Don't assume that voters vote based on logic and reasoning. Immigration is a touchy issue.
1 kaufe 2019-03-04
Yeah, Immigration is very touchy for feels-over-reals types.
1 MikeStoklasaAlcohol 2019-03-04
True
1 jailbot3 2019-03-04
Do we just keep importing brown people forever until the end of time?
1 kaufe 2019-03-04
If you're talking about hispanics, they don't identify as brown or hispanic after the third generation. Many people that Americans deemed undesirable generations ago are now regular mayos. Again, we are not Europe, we have a history of assimilation.
1 Van-Diemen 2019-03-04
Well, they still have egg on their face from Macron. Wonder what they thought of him telling an illegal to her face to 'go back to your own country'.
Then closing French ports to migrants.
And then complaining about Polish workers undercutting superior French workers.
1 posting_from_moscow 2019-03-04
Why do you hate the global poor?
1 MikeStoklasaAlcohol 2019-03-04
Because I was once one of them.
1 Vladith 2019-03-04
These past several years have been the first time in decades that neoliberalism has gotten any serious challenge from left or right
1 Osterion 2019-03-04
Not recognizing Maduro's government isn't the same thing as saying the US should invade or directly engineer a coup. I wouldn't be surprised if most of neolib wanted a coup tho.
1 SpiceAndEvNice 2019-03-04
People who say this are morons though.
"Let Venezuelans fix their own problems!!!"
Except those who've tried that have been killed or otherwise silenced.
1 Osterion 2019-03-04
Who cares if they murder each other and starve. I sure don't
1 SpiceAndEvNice 2019-03-04
If you don't why do you give such a flying fuck about the US intervening then?
1 Osterion 2019-03-04
Where did i say i did?
1 SpiceAndEvNice 2019-03-04
i dunno lol
1 Osterion 2019-03-04
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
1 rileykard 2019-03-04
"I don't give a shit about Venezuelans"
Venezuelans are fucked so they look for another country to live.
Venezuelans start going to the U.S.
That's one reason to care, there's also the whole Oil thing, but we don't talk about that.
1 Coonass_alt 2019-03-04
foriegn oil is way less relevant to us than it was 15 years ago, and venezulean oil is even less relevant than other foreign oil.
1 rileykard 2019-03-04
Only now, because there's still a lot of oil in the ME. Give 20 more years and let's see that change. You know that the oil reserves in Venezuela are recognized as the largest in the world, right?
1 ineed750bucks 2019-03-04
Yeah but it's shit oil
1 artbaselinthebezel 2019-03-04
Guiado literally tried to overthrow the government and wasn't even arrested. Come the fuck on. If anything the entire incident gave me the impression that Maduro is soft. The US wouldn't arrested at least a simialiar figure.
1 SpiceAndEvNice 2019-03-04
lolwut
1 -Shank- 2019-03-04
Who is advocating for war anywhere in that thread?
1 MikeStoklasaAlcohol 2019-03-04
Cope
1 qasterix 2019-03-04
Neoliberals are to the right of Trump when it comes to foreign policy. Moderation at home, kill a commie for your mommie abroad.
1 IamSwedishSuckMyNuts 2019-03-04
Oh god yes
1 elephantofdoom 2019-03-04
Henry Kissinger did nothing wrong.
1 xlhat 2019-03-04
This but unironically.
1 elephantofdoom 2019-03-04
A Neoliberal Agnostic member of the Council on Foreign Relations and Realpolitik practitioner was teaching a class on Henry Kissinger, known warmonger.
"Before the class begins, you must get on your knees and worship Kissinger and accept that he was the most pragmatic being the world has ever known, even greater than Smedley Butler."
At this moment, a brave, patriotic, isolationist Navy SEAL champion named Jesse Ventura who had served 1500 tours of duty and understood the futility of war and fully supported all military decision made by the United States before 1895 stood up and held up a map of Chile.
"Is this country sovereign?"
The elitist professor smirked quite educatedly and smugly replied "Wrong, it is a part of the American sphere of influence."
"Wrong. It’s been 40 years since the CIA overthrew its government. If it was American, which as you say benefits everyone... then it should be a high-income country by now."
The professor was visibly shaken, and dropped his unmaned drone and copy of the Articles of Agreement of the International Monetary Fund. He stormed out of the room crying those globalist petrodollar tears.
The students applauded and all burned their passports that day and accepted Donald Trump as their lord and savior. An eagle named "Closed Borders" flew into the room and perched atop the American Flag and shed a tear on the border wall. George Washington's Farewell Address was read several times, and Andrew Jackson himself showed up and enacted the Tariff of Abominations across the country.
The professor lost control of a guerilla rebel group and was attacked with American-made weapons the next day. He died of the foreign plague Ebola and was deported to Puerto Rico.
America First.
1 xlhat 2019-03-04
😏
1 YungLarva 2019-03-04
this is art
1 tritter211 2019-03-04
lol no.
neoliberals care about the status quo. The status quo of managerial elite and the executive class capitalism. This means, they will swim on any relevant popular idea during their existence. If the majority of people support war, they will support it too.
if the majority of people are socially liberal, then they are socially liberal too.
If the majority of the political leaders support a foreign policy measure, then they will support it too.
If the country voted for Trump, then they will lobby him for tax breaks too.
As you can see, neoliberals are pretty much chameleons in the political landscape as long as the status quo remains intact.
Similar to neoliberals are neoconservatives where instead of being socially liberal, they tend to be socially conservative, and like neoliberals, tend to want to enforce the status quo similar to neoliberals with the added point that they alone should be on the top. (in America's instance white race). The foreign policy is hawkish and flourishes on conflict. Oh, they hate radicals of any kind.
1 MikeStoklasaAlcohol 2019-03-04
I thought neolibs were New Dems/Rockefeller Republican types no? Ideologically "centrist" but inflexible.
1 Zizac 2019-03-04
neoliberalism the sub has no strong ideology. Its composed of everyone from chapos to zozickean libertarians. The only unifying trait between them is that they tend to vote democrat and kind of like the free market sometimes
1 MikeStoklasaAlcohol 2019-03-04
Really? Cause they seem to be very anti-populist based on the posts I've seen.
1 seshfan2 2019-03-04
The way I see it, neoliberals are the type of people who voted for Hillary but they'd rather see Trump in office than Bernie Sanders. They hate republicans, but they really fucking hate leftists.
1 mostlyjustlurksSSC 2019-03-04
Depends. Trump's policy positions (such as they are) are worse, but also his ability to implement those policies is limited by his compulsion to yell the quiet part repeatedly. Sanders might actually accomplish something.
1 Tytos_Lannister 2019-03-04
lol no
1 xlhat 2019-03-04
Decent and honest folks that lot.
1 Zizac 2019-03-04
they jerk themselves off about that but there is still a decent sized chunk of AOC fans and bernie bro adjacent socdems. Usually anti-populism is just another word for anti-trump. Which I guess is really the most unifying trait in the community.
1 Baconlightning 2019-03-04
🤪🤪🤪
1 Phokus1983 2019-03-04
lol no
1 SerengetiYeti 2019-03-04
I guarantee no chapos are there unironically
1 Zizac 2019-03-04
both a serious post and utterly retarded. Please go commit live in venezuela
1 tritter211 2019-03-04
no u
1 boocethefunnydog 2019-03-04
r/neoliberal isn't a very popular sub because nobody likes free market econ nerds, least of all themselves. So,in order to find some friends they partnered up with a sub called r/neoconNWO , which is full of people who unironically think bush did absolutely nothing wrong, Iraq is better now, and we should also invade iran and you're a russian shill if you disagree.
1 MikeStoklasaAlcohol 2019-03-04
Forgot about them. I strongly believe that any who posts/comments in that sub (and neo-cons in general) should be first ones drafted if there's ever a another war and be placed on the front line. Politicians would be included too. It's over for Lindsey-Graham-cels
1 habs76 2019-03-04
The /r/neoliberal sub is just dorks who want a career in politics someday so they avoid posting to post on /r/the_donald if we're honest. All their dog whistles are the same just gayer. IE instead of calling Omar a Muslim whore they say she hates America. It's fun.
1 xlhat 2019-03-04
Nobody wants war these days. They've realised their mistakes. Make Maduro paranoid and he'll implode on his own.
Plus, Daddy is a free and critical thinker. Bolton and Abrams cannot influence him. Daddy will outsmart em all and get a great deal from Venezuela.😎
1 duckraul2 2019-03-04
Arepa trucks on every corner!
1 xlhat 2019-03-04
Delicious rabbit for everyone who's "food insecure". Along with a cheeky empanada.
1 Sarge_Ward 2019-03-04
I mean tbf people were 'done' with war after Vietnam, but that didn't stop the US meddling and peacekeeping in Latin America, the Balkans, and the Middle East starting not even 10 years later
1 xlhat 2019-03-04
Covert stuff. Can't have uppity Mexicans going all commie.
A rare good thing. Although Milošević was every Republican's wet dream.
Lies.
Nowadays with social media and a highly strung population a war ain't that easy. Can't make dodgy claim. There will be 400 viral opinions within the hour.
Then again, Uncle Sam is rather shameless.
1 Sarge_Ward 2019-03-04
I was actually referring to Bush Sr and the gulf war with regarss to the Middle East. The post 9/11 wars are a completely different era, and I feel should be discussed separately.
1 xlhat 2019-03-04
Were the Gulf War that unpopular ? It was 15 years after Vietnam so I don't think it was that unpopular. Highly televised.
1 Sarge_Ward 2019-03-04
Oh no my point was that the Gulf War was extremely popular. It almost won Bush his re-election. My point is more the hypocrisy that people were so in favour of foreign intervention not even 20 years after Vietnam ended.
Similarly, people are absolutley sick of war on paper after Iraq and Afghanistan, but I wouldn't be surprised at all to see the american public turn in favor of direct confrontation and intervention in a heartbeat.
1 FinalchangeX 2019-03-04
It helps that the first gulf war didn't involve extended occupation in hopes of turning a sectarian violence ridden country into a functioning democracy.
1 Sarge_Ward 2019-03-04
Fair point. Thats absolutely a large part of where things went wrong in Vietnam and 2003 Iraq.
1 xlhat 2019-03-04
After Vietnam there were the depressing 70s. In rides that B movie voodoo practitioner and makes America feel all confident and nice. Fast forward to 1990 and Vietnam is a bad dream.
Secondly, Saddam also targeted Saudi. Everyone until recently basically accepted Saudi Arabia as an ally. The reason being that Saudis aren't gonna change and accept modernity. Better to maintain friendship with them. Iraq was always chaotic and violent. Can't have that.
All this and the relatively long time span, made a direct war popular I guess.
I'd be slightly surprised. Even conservatives are slowly but steadily isolationist. Everyone has realised that once war happens, refugees happen. Can't have that. Plus, some people just want them to implode on their own.
Isis was comically evil. Thus Syrian strikes were supported. Venezuela however ? Don't think so.
1 FinalchangeX 2019-03-04
Isn't there already a massive refugee crisis from the vzla? Heard the neighboring countries are bearing the brunt of it!
1 xlhat 2019-03-04
Not America however. 😎
In all seriousness, it is fucked up. They walk a long way, can't find work. If they do it is touch and go until a mob destroys their small shop.
For all the wonders of Chavez's free education, almost all of the refugees are day labourers.
1 FinalchangeX 2019-03-04
I wouldn't be surprised if their "free education" was trash in terms of quality but the neighbouring countries aren't exactly prosperous first world nations with plenty of high skilled job vacancies.
1 xlhat 2019-03-04
Yes but they're capitalist shitholes whose citizens are bumpkins. Socialist Venezuelans should due to their superior education, walk in like conquistadors and steal all/every white collar jobs.
That's your brain on capitalism.
1 preserved_fish 2019-03-04
Their music education system is world-renowned, but it dates back to before Chaves.
1 FinalchangeX 2019-03-04
But you know if you're going into the developing world having a STEM degree might be more useful.
1 preserved_fish 2019-03-04
Music is a trade skill. Much more so than any humanity.
1 FinalchangeX 2019-03-04
I know that's why I said.
1 preserved_fish 2019-03-04
It depends on the market where you live. I know a bunch of pit musicians who do pretty well. If your country or city is music mad, you can do alright as a musician.
1 FinalchangeX 2019-03-04
That's true. Not saying musicians can't find jobs but there are 2+ million people going into relatively poor countries where a good music education might not be the most in demand skill.
1 preserved_fish 2019-03-04
Oh I know. I just think La Sistema is a positive thing—perhaps the one of the few in VA these days. Even if you don't make it a career, the ability to play an instrument is life-improving. Unlike, say, the ability to write a paint-by-numbers eco-critical Gramscian take on Henry James's novels.
1 FinalchangeX 2019-03-04
Agreed, ability to play good music is an envious skill to have. Hopefully VA returns to a position where such skills can flourish.
1 Sarge_Ward 2019-03-04
Huh ive never even considered this theory before actually, but it makes a lot of sense. Its like there's a desire to move towards Pre-Rooseveltian, and especially Pre-Wilsonian, foreign policy. Kinda like Coolidge style conservativism of the 20s. I know paleoconservativsts claim this belief on paper, but I never saw any sort of merit to the idea they actually believe it. Maybe this really is the case.
1 xlhat 2019-03-04
Even Europe is becoming strongly isolationist. Hell there's a push back against globalism. I remember TD cheering when Daddy pulled out and yearning for more.
1 no_maps_no_plans 2019-03-04
Its not really isolationism, I think its more non interventionism. Fortunately America is in a pretty good spot where we don't directly see why war is hell, However after 15 years of an occupation with nothing to show for it, I hope it's making everyone question what the fuck we're hoping to accomplish.
We need to stop pretending like we give two shits about freedom and democracy when we really don't. We don't care about Venezuela or Syria, we keep fucking up what little semblance of a functioning government countries like these have. Its bizzare to see the Democrats become the pro war party.
1 preserved_fish 2019-03-04
It's not really that strange. Wilson, FDR, Truman, and LBJ got us into the major wars of the 20th century. And Clinton and Obama subscribed to a somewhat reduced, post-Vietnam brand of liberal intervention.
Only about half the Dems even rejected W & co's outright imperialist war.
1 Bteatesthighlander1 2019-03-04
you're forgetting the greatest pro-war democrat, Jim Davis
1 preserved_fish 2019-03-04
I thought he just focused on domestic matters, like shipping all rival kittens to Abu Dhabi.
1 Bteatesthighlander1 2019-03-04
no wait, Miles Davis
1 Cho-Dai 2019-03-04
Sorry Maduro, we're locking it because y'all can't behave
1 Sarge_Ward 2019-03-04
Politicians really are just glorified reddit moderators
1 Psyman2 2019-03-04
Lmao sure
1 xlhat 2019-03-04
Have you visited r/politics ? Daddy farts and there are 60 opinions analysing the octave, the range, the smell and if one's lucky, the taste.
1 Psyman2 2019-03-04
Spergs sperging out. News at 11.
Remind me again how much impact r/politics together with those 60 fart sniffers has on the real world.
It's none. Nobody gives a shit.
The only difference between back then and now is that retards have an audience. That doesn't mean the audience is gonna do more than violently hit the "reply" button and sperg out on Reddit for a few days.
1 xlhat 2019-03-04
You may think that. But you're unaware of (((them))).
1 artbaselinthebezel 2019-03-04
The United States openly supported the genocide of the Maya in Guatemala.
1 xlhat 2019-03-04
OK.
1 TheLordHighExecu 2019-03-04
t. Serb
1 Sarge_Ward 2019-03-04
Ive actually never been more offended in my life
1 SNCommand 2019-03-04
Bolsonaro could easily deal with Venezuela in a few days if that becomes necessary, but for the moment nobody wants to touch Brazil
1 xlhat 2019-03-04
Of course. They're stupid but not that stupid. Bolosnaro is major redpilled and he made mad gainz. You can't fuck with such a man.
1 artbaselinthebezel 2019-03-04
Bolosnaro could give Brazil a Vietnam, sure. Let a bunch of fascist Brazilians die.
1 rileykard 2019-03-04
Is that what we're calling now?
1 xlhat 2019-03-04
Among other things.
1 artbaselinthebezel 2019-03-04
The US failed give up
Maduro is president of Venezula
Guiado is a Colombian
1 xlhat 2019-03-04
Don't you dare say that ! It makes Daddy very upset ! 😤😣
May he reign for a thousand years. Serious.
1 IfHeDiesHeDies-Drago 2019-03-04
Reeeeee why nobody ever answers me in Russian.
1 White_Dudeness 2019-03-04
cyka blyat
1 ineed750bucks 2019-03-04
Запости фото своего ануса и ответят
1 Corporal-Hicks 2019-03-04
Serious post: How can someone vote for a politician who overtly and loudly hates the country it is trying to be a politician for?
1 xlhat 2019-03-04
Endorsing treason to own the cuckservatives. 😎
1 bamename 2019-03-04
cyck
1 xlhat 2019-03-04
Definitely a cuckish endeavour since it involves giving aid and comfort.
1 bamename 2019-03-04
get AIDS
1 xlhat 2019-03-04
Try and stop me.
1 lannister_stark 2019-03-04
Chapotard detected
1 bamename 2019-03-04
person who is not totally 100% retarded detected
1 lannister_stark 2019-03-04
You best point him out then
1 bamename 2019-03-04
neh
1 allanmes 2019-03-04
stfu dude treason is radical centrist and based
1 xlhat 2019-03-04
Of course when treasoning, one considers both sides.
1 pablomy 2019-03-04
Here, have a shekel
1 xlhat 2019-03-04
🙌😘
1 ImpeachDrumpf2019 2019-03-04
1 xlhat 2019-03-04
Exactly. Pence needs to clean up.
1 ImpeachDrumpf2019 2019-03-04
Lolll
1 SWIMsfriend 2019-03-04
The problem with socialism is eventually you run out of other people's bits
1 ImpeachDrumpf2019 2019-03-04
Ah yes the natural, nonrenewable resource of money.
Are you aware of the concept of non-fiat currencies? If not, then I'd stay away from the business of spouting trite, right wing talking points.
1 nanonan 2019-03-04
Ron Paul would be proud. True horseshoe theory in action.
1 ImpeachDrumpf2019 2019-03-04
Lol says bootstrap boy
1 JamesRobotoMD 2019-03-04
Do you have to be Muslim for hating US foreign interventions to mean you hate America or does Rand Paul hate America too?
1 Doctor-Pavel 2019-03-04
To be fair, Rand Paul hates everything
1 RecallRethuglicans 2019-03-04
Especially his neighbor
1 JamesRobotoMD 2019-03-04
Except liberty 😪7
1 MikeStoklasaAlcohol 2019-03-04
Absolutely based
1 whatsupufkkinretards 2019-03-04
Especially good haircuts
1 ElegantTobacco 2019-03-04
And minimum heights for getting on rides at the state fair.
1 rileykard 2019-03-04
True centrism
1 Comeandseemeforonce 2019-03-04
This but non-unironically
1 nullcrash 2019-03-04
You don't have to be.
But it certainly helps.
1 Hammurabi_of_Babylon 2019-03-04
So me being a Muslim American means I hate America?
Fuck you guys. You’re no better than fox news
1 Vurtizontal 2019-03-04
Muzzies out out out out.
Go ruin something else.
1 Hammurabi_of_Babylon 2019-03-04
Ok
1 Vurtizontal 2019-03-04
Thank you for understanding.
1 nullcrash 2019-03-04
You being a Muslim American doesn't mean you have to hate America.
But it certainly helps.
1 Hammurabi_of_Babylon 2019-03-04
“You being white doesn’t mean you have to be racist
But it certainly helps.”
See I can do that as well.
1 nullcrash 2019-03-04
That's correct, though.
1 Corporal-Hicks 2019-03-04
madruo raping his citizens is american interventionism?
1 JamesRobotoMD 2019-03-04
Looks like somebody forgot to take their Alpha Brain today.
1 ineed750bucks 2019-03-04
Okay, correction from the beta brain (me): is supporting a murderous dictator opposing american interventionalism? Because she didn't just oppose the idea of a military intervention, she called the only democratically elected body in vuvuzela far-right and endorsed a murderous dictator.
1 JamesRobotoMD 2019-03-04
She didn't endorse Maduro, but she is fairly retarded (the far right nonsense for example). She said she sides with the Supreme Court of VA in not recognizing an unelected dude as president and is waiting for new elections.
I don't at all support Maduro, but if we plan to intervene in every country where the leader is a piece of shit dictator we are going to need a lot more military spending and cannon fodder immigrants.
1 ineed750bucks 2019-03-04
1)The current supreme court was filled with maduro cocksuckers by the previous lame duck national assembly, which was literally a puppet of maduro, right after the opposition won the elections for the current national assembly. And that's just a part of the shady shit maduro, chavez and their supporters have done to turn venezuela into a dictatorship. The judges have also been receiving threats from the chavez's and maduro's administartions apparently.
Oh and they also stripped the newly elected national assembly off three opposition members on bullshit reasons, preventing the opposition for having power over maduro.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supreme_Tribunal_of_Justice_(Venezuela)
2)He was elected, he's the head of the national assembly, the only part of the venezuelan government elected by the people. And he is the interim president. His job is to hold elections.
3)She called the whole opposition far-right, trying to delegitimize it.
From all that we conclude that, yes, she did, in fact, endorse maduro.
Fair elections won't happen while maduro is in power.
Doubt. Let me guess, you're gonna be like one of those people who go like "well, I don't support stalin...but holodomor was exaggerated and not his fault", or something like that. Seen your type.
Then don't attack the opposition and stop supporting the dictator. And stop trying to blame the assness of venezuelan situation on the sanctions. And stop trying to paint the aid as a trojan horse. Or summarized: stop repeating maduro's talking points. You can be against military intervention and against maduro. Have you not heard of radical centrism?
Wait, FUCK, I TOOK YOUR BAIT AND LONGPOSTED ABOUT FUCKING POLITICS ON FUCKING DRAMA AGAIN.
1 JamesRobotoMD 2019-03-04
I pretty clearly am. You took "we shouldn't intervene even if another country's politics is basically fucked" and used it to write an essay jerking yourself off.
1 ineed750bucks 2019-03-04
Are you...
LITERALLY
...a retard? You support omar. She endorsed maduro. I explained to you while she did in fact support maduro and you got triggered by that. And you keep repeating maduro's talking points. Who the fuck are you trying to trick?
1 JamesRobotoMD 2019-03-04
I support non-intervention in the absence of genocide and sterilization for unfunny chronic long posters who can't write a sentence without lapsing into reddit speak.
1 ineed750bucks 2019-03-04
Three things:
1) Is aid intervention? Is america saying they consider guaido legitimate and maduro illegitimate intervention?
2) If you don't support military intervention and don't support maduro, don't support omar and stop repeating maduro's talking points.
3) So maduro starving people, including kids, shooting protesters, kidnapping and torturing prisoners and implementing extrajudicial killings (8200 between 2015 and 2017) isn't bad enough for you?
First of all, not needed, I've never seen a naked person in my life. Second of all, if anything, you should be the first one in the queue, since you're unironically trying to excuse a female muslim version of daddy. Maybe a little bit less retarded but the religiousness and age will make up for it.
Whatever you say, "alpha brain"
1 JamesRobotoMD 2019-03-04
I repeated her talking points only to show that you were objectively wrong that she endorsed Maduro. Are you too fucking stupid to find a real leftist to rant at?
1 ineed750bucks 2019-03-04
And I explained to you that she literally was endorsing maduro and you ignored it. And then I explained to you that you're quite literally a retard who can't explain his own views and asked two questions. And you ignored it again.
My goal isn't to rant at a leftist here, my goal is to promote the interests of israel's foreign policy...Wait no, I mean, my goal is to rant at someone who's saying dumb shit. Or that's what I started doing for some reason, instead of jerking off as I was planning.
1 JamesRobotoMD 2019-03-04
She endorsed Maduro in the same way opposition to the Iraq war was an endorsement of Saddam Hussein. Weird how regime changes are usually urgent humanitarian crisis when they are happening on top of oil fields 🤔🤔🤔
The more the US gets involved the worse shit will get and that's true no matter who says it.
1 ineed750bucks 2019-03-04
No, again, she endorsed maduro because she: 1) said that supreme court, maduro's puppet, is legitimate 2) called the opposition far right, trying to delegitimize all of maduro's opponents 3) echoed maduro's main lies, including calling the opposition far right, calling guaido a fascist, repeating his bullshit rhetoric about the aid (majority of which isn't even from US) and even the part where he claimed that US was trying to invade with military under the guise of aid, saying that US "installed" the oposition and guaido and etc
How is that anything even remotely close to the iraq war?
Ah yes, so much fucking oil in *checks notes* yugoslavia...korea...germany...wait.
The "US comes for muh oil" meme is funny but retarded and you're retarded for believing it unironically. Look at the exports in those countries to america, including before and after. Iraqi oil for example is like 5% of US oil import and it was higher before the war. Also, venezuelan oil has got shit quality and is hard to get and it would bring very little profit.
Well yeah, that's why US hasn't invaded yet. Stop repeating maduro's rhetoric and simply oppose the people calling for a military intervention in the US government, you don't have to repeat maduro's rhetoric to do that, like omar is doing.
1 LongPostBot 2019-03-04
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1 ineed750bucks 2019-03-04
Almost the same one two times in a row. What are the odds?
1 JamesRobotoMD 2019-03-04
You might be unironically retarded. Who is now exporting that oil, which is now being extracted at about twice the prewar rate, is the industry still nationalized? Saying that the idea that wars are about resources is a """meme"""" is just peak contrarian idiocy.
1 ineed750bucks 2019-03-04
I'm assuming the fact that you ignored the first part means that you finally admit that omar endorsed maduro, right? Also that your "it's the same as opposing iraq war and hussein" shtick was full of shit.
Now, you also appear to admit that not all of US interventions were in oil rich regions. Thank you.
US is importing less oil from iraq now than it did before the war. About 5% of the import. Majority of iraq's oil goes to china and the rest of asia actually. And the industry grew severalfold, bringing iraq as much more money:
Anyways, in conclusion, my work here is done (refer to the first paragraph). Except for this:
Equal number of quotation marks on both sides, is that too much to ask?
1 JamesRobotoMD 2019-03-04
It's like talking directly to reddit.
1 ineed750bucks 2019-03-04
Dude, come on, don't be a toxic leftist trash. I presented you with arguments, either refute them or admit that you were full of shit.
Which directly challenge your point. US hasn't started to import more oil from iraq, iraq even gave US a deal to give them some privilleges in oil...stuff, don't wanna google now, iirc, to hold off the invasion and US declined. Moreover, iraq now gets 17 times more money from the industry and all the extra oil goes to fucking china.
Come on bro. Either debate (I fucking hate this word being used on reddit) or admit you were wrong. Stop trying to attack me instead.
1 JamesRobotoMD 2019-03-04
You just unironically did the "debate me bro." You are that guy.
1 ineed750bucks 2019-03-04
Sir, could you stop dodging the topic, please? Either refute my argument or stop attacking me and admit you were wrong.
1 LongPostBot 2019-03-04
All those words won't bring daddy back.
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1 artbaselinthebezel 2019-03-04
Yeah he's literally raping people now
Just way up the lies the liberal media tells you
1 Vurtizontal 2019-03-04
Rand Paul is a little of a retard and a hypocrite.
1 JamesRobotoMD 2019-03-04
He looks and acts like the world's oldest child and he because his dad doesn't understand at all how economics works he got to be a US senator. It's the American dream realized.
1 Raven0520 2019-03-04
Because civic nationalism is a meme and only mayos want to be American. She probably sees herself as a temporarily embarrassed queen that shall return to her Somalian empire after she slaaays the Zionist menace.
1 Sarge_Ward 2019-03-04
Same reason they did back in the 60s: some people just don't like the traditions and culture of their nation-state. Nothing wrong with that, just like there's nothing wrong with being a jingoist. Both ideologies should be respected.
1 xlhat 2019-03-04
CMV - The permissive society was a mistake.
1 Sarge_Ward 2019-03-04
Not gonna get all that much argument from me there, except for maybe to say that you're not thinking nearly far enough back in where things went wrong. The Enlightenment, probably, but maybe farther.
1 xlhat 2019-03-04
It all went to shit once the Roman Empire fell.
1 Sarge_Ward 2019-03-04
Tbh Rome was p gay, too. The Persians should have wiped out Greece and moved on to Rome
1 xlhat 2019-03-04
Were cucks who wore trousers. Unlike the masculine Romans.
1 Sarge_Ward 2019-03-04
🤢
Nvm im on your side now
1 xlhat 2019-03-04
Better late than never.
1 NeededToFilterSubs 2019-03-04
The Babylonians built the greatest phallic symbol of all time, it even made god jealous to the point that he destroyed it and created foreign language. Rome have small pp in comparison.
1 xlhat 2019-03-04
Big dicks are faggy anyway. Romans were sapiosexuals.
1 NeededToFilterSubs 2019-03-04
Oh wow yeah the pants-less society based on the ideas of pedo-philosophers actually isn't the big gay, I never thought about it like that 🤔
1 xlhat 2019-03-04
I read, therefore I think, therefore I teach.
1 aX10mAt1CaL1Y 2019-03-04
They were just “mentoring and educating” the youth.
1 lickedTators 2019-03-04
All the rich and/or brilliant talents around the world came to the US for the free sex. Soviet Union could have survived if they provided bussy like we did.
1 xlhat 2019-03-04
Yeah, and look what a shithole America is. Atleast that's what I'm told.
AND I HAVEN'T A CLUE IF IT'S TRUE. AND I'M NOT WILLING TO LEARN !
1 KingWayneX 2019-03-04
In reality, whether youre surrounded by loopy trannies or blood thirsty rednecks, most people Ive dealt with will help you if you need it. We just whine too fucking much.
1 xlhat 2019-03-04
Most anti American talk comes from Americans themselves.
1 Vurtizontal 2019-03-04
The problem problem with America is that we need to be even MORE free. Fuck commies and fascist. Freedom now, freedom forever.
1 xlhat 2019-03-04
💪✊
1 A7_AUDUBON 2019-03-04
No
1 Sarge_Ward 2019-03-04
Yes
1 A7_AUDUBON 2019-03-04
Probably not.
1 Sarge_Ward 2019-03-04
Possibly so.
1 llapingachos 2019-03-04
capitalism itself is responsible for the counter culture, though. is it possible to hate both?
1 Sarge_Ward 2019-03-04
Idk ask the hippies. They sure didn't much like the capitalist status quo either
1 llapingachos 2019-03-04
Well sure, but postwar consumer capitalism was the petri dish that spawned the counter culture, right?
Its probably just a coincidence that Jim Morrison's dad was the admiral in charge during the Gulf of Tonkin incident and Frank Zappa's dad developed chemical weapons for the Army, but facts like those make for a fun conspiracy theory about CIA psy-ops and controlled opposition: http://centerforaninformedamerica.com/laurelcanyon/
1 Sarge_Ward 2019-03-04
From some perspectives, and arguably the most correct of those, yeah
I can't even begin to comment on that site lol. Kinda nutso sounding but an interesting thing to think about i suppose?
1 SWIMsfriend 2019-03-04
The fact that those same people are perfectly fine with similar yet worse traditions and culture of the other country they hold citizenship in sort of tell you they are more about hating this country instead of hating specific parts about it.
1 Sarge_Ward 2019-03-04
I suppose, but I was more thinking with regards to like the hippies, who were home grown americans and still espoused anti-american sentiments, which there's nothing wrong with doing.
1 Vurtizontal 2019-03-04
We are way far from the hippies dude. Ask yourself if hippies would prmote a hyper conservative religion like islam, in the way progressives do.
1 Sarge_Ward 2019-03-04
the hippies promoted the panthers, and thus the nation of islam, so uh yeah they would.
People don't seem to understand what the hippies actually were. They're nearly identical to the millennial student movements birthed out of the Bush Era (think Occupy and those which came after it). The only real difference was the year and the war (Iraq vs. Vietnam)
1 Vurtizontal 2019-03-04
The hippes were retards on their own but any support for the Panthers in that culture was out of support for civil rights, not Islam.
Also a reminder that the USSR promoted and financed anti Vietnam war activism in the US within the hippie movement.
1 Sarge_Ward 2019-03-04
support for islamic nations and groups is justified as support against islamophobia, too. Muslims got discriminated against heavily in the west after 9/11, where prior they weren't treated much differently than any other immigrant group. Progressives wanted to fight that new wave of discrimination, and so started to defend muslim practices, even the awful fundamentalist ones, to fight that perceived racism. just like how hippies supported even the awful conservative black nationalists as a means to fight against the perceived racism of the time. Again, nearly 0 difference.
Also the USSR may have supported anti-war efforts but its not even at all like they were close to the driving force. It was an unpopular war on the homefront, because it became clear there would be no victory. Students and young adults would be protesting to bring the troops home anyway so they wouldn't have to fight and so that their brothers and sons would return to them safely.
Also you doubleposted.
1 Vurtizontal 2019-03-04
Being black is not ideological. Being is muslims is inherently a hyper conservative position. Completely different.
1 Sarge_Ward 2019-03-04
Islamophobia not meant as on being anti-islam, but as being anti-Arabic. Progressives chose the worst possible word when they decided to coin it, but thats essentially what they meant. Its the same as how anti-semetic doesn't mean being against the jewish religion but rather against its people. They didn't like how arabs were being stereotyped as terrorists.
1 Vurtizontal 2019-03-04
Then it's not my fault progressives are shit at choosing names. Doesn't make islamophobia any more real than republicanphobia.
1 Sarge_Ward 2019-03-04
How christians are treated in the middle east is completley irrelevant to what I'm referring to. LGBTQ peoples are generally treated like garbage in black communities, but progressives will still argue on the behalf of more socially conservative black communities, despite how they are also fighting against homophobia.
You're pretty clearly trying your hardest to not understand the progressive point of view.
1 Vurtizontal 2019-03-04
The hippes were retards on their own but any support for the Panthers in that culture was out of support for civil rights, not Islam.
Also a reminder that the USSR promoted and financed anti Vietnam war activism in the US within the hippie movement.
1 ZIIReactionzV 2019-03-04
Imagine liking America
1 FinalchangeX 2019-03-04
We can tell when someone is serious posting. No need for /uj/ /rj/ tier autism.
1 Corporal-Hicks 2019-03-04
SERIOUS POSTERS OUT OUT OUT!!
1 xlhat 2019-03-04
MAGGIE MAGGIE MAGGIE !!
1 necrocannibal2 2019-03-04
why the fuck would I use irony when my real opinions are already fucking retarded?
1 bamename 2019-03-04
nah not really
1 bamename 2019-03-04
obv. cant be serioys, thatd make him and 114 people retards.
1 Strictlybutters 2019-03-04
Because she unironically is amazingly accessible and helpful in any way she can be to her constituents which matters more to them than anything she might say or tweet.
Source: I am a constituent who voted for her and who’s line of work requires a lot of interaction with various levels of the local, state and federal government. She is unironically amazing to work with and genuinely cares about the people she represents.
1 Lumene 2019-03-04
Except for the parts where she managed not to author, or co-author a single bit of passing legislation. The thing that's her job.
Also she was tremendously unavailable to the University district when she was rep, instead only representing Cedar Riverside, aka Somaliland, aka the place with constant shootings and muggings of University students.
1 Strictlybutters 2019-03-04
Lmao she was in the state legislature one term after being elected in 2016 homie. Freshman legislators never author or co sponsor legislation . I can discount the rest of what you wrote because you’re clearly biased af based on your dishonest smear in the first part. Go be a whiny faggot somewhere else.
1 nullcrash 2019-03-04
The Tea Party would like a word.
1 JollyOllyMansFatDick 2019-03-04
It’s a bad thing when they do it 😡😡😤🤬
1 Lumene 2019-03-04
My 10 years in that part of the city says otherwise.
And yeah, it's somaliland. Land of the Somali's. And law students who get robbed because they're walking back to their apartments at 8 pm.
Clearly qualified for federal government. She has a total of 2 years of local government under her belt!
1 PDaviss 2019-03-04
Wether its Little Mogadishu or Somailand, we can all agree on one thing.
The sheer irony of the act she represents the West Bank of the university in her district.
1 Lumene 2019-03-04
Things like that make it all worth it.
1 PDaviss 2019-03-04
The West Bank for Omar
1 Strictlybutters 2019-03-04
So does my 29 years of birth, living, working, schooling and graduating in south Minneapolis , literally the heart of the 5th congressional district automatically give me more credibility in this colossally retarded line of argument you’ve introduced?
Sorry you’re such a low t mayo manlet and that your anecdotal evidence is incredibly compelling and relevant to a state legislator who repped that district for 1 term.
Which ironically is two years more governmental experience than the alpha Chad who currently occupies the Oval Office.
1 FinalchangeX 2019-03-04
You questioned whether he was a local or not and then whine when he mentions how long he's been there?
1 Strictlybutters 2019-03-04
And he isn’t , he went to school at the U of M twin cities campus which may or may not of coincided with ilhan’s one term in the Minnesota house.
1 Lumene 2019-03-04
It did. And I held a local governance position there as well.
1 Lumene 2019-03-04
You live in South Minneapolis, not 60B. She wasn't your state rep. She was mine. She was completely unresponsive and spent her time touring on a national progressive campaign. Considering her district is 20% CR, and 80% University, I find it a little odd that she'd spend more time on CR issues and preening for the media than fixing the problems that were on the west bank with regards to student crime rates.
Don't you know where congressional districts are? Or you wanna just keep slinging insults.
1 PDaviss 2019-03-04
As a fellow Minnesotan, ill be the ref and you two can meet up and fight somewhere.
1 Strictlybutters 2019-03-04
He just needs to drop the pin and will settle this like the mayo man(lets) that we are!
1 Strictlybutters 2019-03-04
This is drama you whiny faggot, there is no pearl clutching allowed. You’re correct I did not live in 60b the district she represented in the Minnesota house but if you read my reply I said that my business in her district lead me to interact with her and her office on a regular basis. I do live in MN 5th congressional district so she is my elected congressional representative.
1 Ed_ButteredToast 2019-03-04
You're a massive faggot.
1 2016wasthegreatest 2019-03-04
U know Somalialand means something other than Somali land right? It's an actual region in the north of Somalia
1 Lumene 2019-03-04
Is it full of Somalis?
I rest my case.
1 artbaselinthebezel 2019-03-04
Internationally its recognized as part of Somalia
1 911roofer 2019-03-04
Why did we let this trash into the country again?
1 Patsy02 2019-03-04
idk what's particularly wrong about not spending tax money to add to the byzantine shitpile
1 Lumene 2019-03-04
Because lawmakers jobs is to react to local events and situations, which means writing, rewriting, or repealing laws.
She managed to do nothing except go to press events where she got to circle-jerk with the rest of the progressives in the 5th.
1 artbaselinthebezel 2019-03-04
Uhhhggg they let you sign your name on shit if you scratch their back
Don't be this native and stupid
1 EasySchmitty 2019-03-04
Uhm sweaty the appropriate name is the Crack Stacks
1 artbaselinthebezel 2019-03-04
Lol the people who author legislation are crooks
There is zero reason to cuck to them and try and be likable so that you can throw your name in a corrupt piece of crap that would've been passed anyway
She isn't part of the machine
1 PracticalOnions 2019-03-04
She might be decent to work for but her stance on Venezuela is political suicide tbh
1 Strictlybutters 2019-03-04
Not in her district which is extremely left. I don’t think she has designs on a higher office so she’ll be alright. Her stance on Venezuela is one of a few areas I strongly disagree with her tho I’m sympathetic to her point of view since America doesn’t exactly have a sterling history of democracy promotion at the barrel of a gun across the globe.
1 SpiceAndEvNice 2019-03-04
In terms of optics it is suicide regardless of her constituents. Only far leftists (self proclaimed socialists and the like) agrees with her on Venezuela. Literally most of the world will be ok with intervention.
1 Strictlybutters 2019-03-04
I don’t disagree all I’m saying is that practically speaking there’s zero chance that her position on Venezuela will jeopardize her re-election prospects.
1 PracticalOnions 2019-03-04
Her particular district being far left is a very, very tiny minority and it could seriously disrupt the Hispanic votes for the democrat party and losing 20% of the vote isn’t a joke, man.
I also understand the opposition towards interventionism but I don’t think far leftists have any idea how dire the situation is over there.
1 PDaviss 2019-03-04
Tell us more about how the normal Cedar Riverside resident cares so deeply about the Venezuelan leader. Every person I know who lives over in her district regrets their vote each time she opens her mouth.
1 Strictlybutters 2019-03-04
Lmao ok buddy I am now convinced she won’t win a second term because your anecdotal evidence is soo compelling.
1 PDaviss 2019-03-04
Wow, thank man. Did working with her inspire you to be a dick as well or was that a natural personal growth?
Everyone knows the biggest issue facing her district, mainly comprised of First and Second generation immigrants from Somalia, is that big ole scary National Assembly in Venezuela and the super real american plans to do something about it. Not ICE, or jobs, or immigration; nah its the South American country most people mix up with Colombia.
1 Strictlybutters 2019-03-04
It’s drama you whiny faggot. There is no pearl clutching allowed here. Go somewhere else if you’re offended.
OUT! OUT! OUT!
1 Ed_ButteredToast 2019-03-04
cringe and soypilled
1 Redactor0 2019-03-04
I hope you get raped to death.
1 Strictlybutters 2019-03-04
https://i.imgur.com/70yeAaJ.jpg
1 Ed_ButteredToast 2019-03-04
/u/Redactor0 what was that all about? Lmaooo.
1 Phokus1983 2019-03-04
Yeah, because your average American gives a shit about this issue.
Oh wait, you're serious, let me laugh at you AHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAH
1 PracticalOnions 2019-03-04
Your average American doesn’t like dictators and socialists so when they see a politician with a big ass D next to their name they automatically assume the entire political party is supportive of said dictator which would be like Trump backing a far right dictatorship in the Middle East or whatever. Like they don’t care about the intricacies of it they just know dictator=bad
1 Phokus1983 2019-03-04
You said it's political suicide. What, like 'grab 'em by the pussy' type suicide? No, nobody gives a shit about the issue except for insiders.
Yeah, like backing Mr. Bonesaw and giving the Saudis 'foreign aid'? Or praising Duterte/Kim/Erdogan?
1 PracticalOnions 2019-03-04
I see your point now considering that didn’t stop Trump’s campaign and inevitable presidency tbh
1 Phokus1983 2019-03-04
The only thing i can think that would really sink someone's campaign is if you shit on the electorate like Mitt Romney or Hillary Clinton did.
1 artbaselinthebezel 2019-03-04
Her stance on Venezula is reality
1 allanmes 2019-03-04
No one cares nigger take it to /r/WholesomePolitics or whatever
1 2016wasthegreatest 2019-03-04
SYK
1 cuteman 2019-03-04
More like she got endorsed by Keith Ellison, the previous incumbent, and no one ran against her.
1 Strictlybutters 2019-03-04
Lol dude she had 5 primary opponents and she only won with 48% of the vote. Keith’s endorsement obviously helped but Margaret Anderson kelliher her closest opponent ran strong with like 30% of the vote. I can’t remember any incumbent 5th district representative ever losing to a challenger so her seat is probably safe long term.
1 EasySchmitty 2019-03-04
>Hennepin county
🤢🤢🤢🤮🤮🤮
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1 jamsterDAMN 2019-03-04
I hate a lot of thing about this country, wtf would I not vote for someone who feels similarly.
1 stereomono1 2019-03-04
"it's not a phase mom"
1 bamename 2019-03-04
does she lol
1 allanmes 2019-03-04
OUT OUT OUT
1 White_Dudeness 2019-03-04
Because right-wingers overtly and loudly love their country, so doing the opposite shows how left-wing you are.
8500 more words explaining this in more detail.
1 aqouta 2019-03-04
Hating America is a really really intellectually lazy way to signal that you're woke and know of bad things the United states has done(often in the face of a no win situation but there are no points for nuance). It's like communism, it's super easy to criticize imperfect systems that have the disadvantage of existing in reality and really hard to actually improve them or create new functioning systems so you get all the low hanging fruit of looking smart and virtuous by criticizing but with none if the hard work of actually affecting change.
1 Sarge_Ward 2019-03-04
Nom Chomsky can be heard crying in the distance
1 Eztari 2019-03-04
Good.
1 ironicshitpostr 2019-03-04
Agreed, Universal Grammar proponents can suck it
1 Vurtizontal 2019-03-04
Fuck that nigga, he defended the Khmer Rouge.
1 allendrio 2019-03-04
Its pretty much 90% of the conspiracy community on reddit, as soon as the US (excluding daddy) turns against an authoritarian regime they start talking about how they are really good guys fighting the cabal.
1 artbaselinthebezel 2019-03-04
The United States supports genocide
There is no no win situation
It's an evil country with great pr
1 rockidol 2019-03-04
When has she said she hates this country? I haven't been paying attention to her.
As per why someone would vote for someone like that, those people probably have a campaign slogan like "the country sucks and I'm going to make it better"
1 wickedogg 2019-03-04
Same reason the GOP does it?
"I don't want to abolish government. I simply want to reduce it to the size where I can drag it into the bathroom and drown it in the bathtub."
1 stereomono1 2019-03-04
what?
1 Boziceslish 2019-03-04
Same reason the GOP does it?
"I don't want to abolish government. I simply want to reduce it to the size where I can drag it into the bathroom and drown it in the bathtub."
1 stereomono1 2019-03-04
that was fast
1 wickedogg 2019-03-04
That's kind of the point I was making, right?
"I love the USA, I just hate all the citizens!"
"I love the USA, I just hate all the libtards!"
"I love the USA, I just hate all the laws!"
There is no objective line where you can love the country but hate some part of it. Saying that someone hates something about the country is not incompatible with them loving the country.
1 Vurtizontal 2019-03-04
The GOP are a bunch of hypocrites.
I never believe a conservative that says they want small government.
1 YEET_ON_THEM_LIBS 2019-03-04
So does serious posting lead to retarded opinions or do retarded opinions lead to serious posting?
That's the biggest question I got from your comment tbh.
1 Wolkenfresser 2019-03-04
Seething chapstick
1 YEET_ON_THEM_LIBS 2019-03-04
I don't seethe because taking anything seriously on this website is gay and retarded.
Next.
1 Mexagon 2019-03-04
You just described the modern left in general.
1 rockidol 2019-03-04
“The left hates America!”
I remember the right saying that in the Bush administration. Get some new material, or stop getting your info on what lefties believe from the right.
1 White_Dudeness 2019-03-04
Have you ever seen a leftie with an American flag bumper sticker? Explain that.
1 Vurtizontal 2019-03-04
Unironically the huge lack of patriotism on the left is a sign they don't like America.
Then that means they like healthcare. Not America. A nation is more than partisan policies, especially America.
1 rockidol 2019-03-04
Trying to show to the world how patriotic you are just seems so unimportant. You can like something without feeling the need to mention it all the time.
1 rockidol 2019-03-04
I can't tell if this is serious or you're just mocking the whole "leftists hate America" crowd.
1 White_Dudeness 2019-03-04
I mean, have you never noticed that thing or do you think that it has an obvious explanation or what?
1 rockidol 2019-03-04
Not having an American flag bumper sticker means you hate America? That's a pretty big leap.
Truth be told I rarely see bumper stickers period.
1 White_Dudeness 2019-03-04
Well, it's strangely suggestive, especially together with many similarly suggestive things.
Though as I said in another comment it's mostly but not entirely posturing, probably.
1 Vurtizontal 2019-03-04
Both conservatives and progreasives hate America in their own. They are all retards and America deserves better.
1 ImpeachDrumpf2019 2019-03-04
Ask trump voters
1 zouhair 2019-03-04
Well trump is president.
1 redeyesredbull 2019-03-04
She wants to fix it
1 ineed750bucks 2019-03-04
Nah, she's just another populist and not a very smart one
1 Woolgun 2019-03-04
Can't believe there are still people in current year + 3 that believe politics are about anything but power and money.
Even if they wanted to change anything, to get elected you need shitload of donations from companies or known donors and will have to cater to them.
1 ineed750bucks 2019-03-04
This tbh.
POLITICIANS 👏🏻 AREN'T 👏 PEOPLE
1 artbaselinthebezel 2019-03-04
Le populism
1 ineed750bucks 2019-03-04
Oh, heck, I used the wrong word. Uhhhh just ignore it pls.
Anyway, she's a dumb cunt. With emphasis on the "dumb" rather than "cunt". Remember when she decided to defend the black israelites of all people? And now she literally shills for a murderous dictator. She either just trying to be contrarian and cause controversy, similar to orange daddy's strategy, or she's a mouthpiece for something. Or both.
1 kaufe 2019-03-04
This was Trump's main message during the campaign trail and it worked. He was saying America was in the shitter during during a time of economic surplus, and he wanted to MAGA. The dems were saying America is already great. It's a decent strategy.
1 Mojotank 2019-03-04
Because they agree?
1 SlickShadyyy 2019-03-04
Are you fucking retarded? The same reason anyone would vote for anyone
1 artbaselinthebezel 2019-03-04
Anyone with an ounce of humanity hates America.
1 Vladith 2019-03-04
What the fuck are you talking about. You don't need to hate America to be critical of our friends or our abuses
1 zkela 2019-03-04
do you have any actual evidence that's the case?
1 Vurtizontal 2019-03-04
Have you met a progressive?
1 Seattle_Bussy_Lmao 2019-03-04
[Happy drone purring sounds]
1 rnjbond 2019-03-04
Mod stickies a comment threatening to ban people, using a gif where he sees himself as a superhero. Explains so much.
1 Tzar-Romulus 2019-03-04
If it wasn't so pathetic it might be funny.
1 -Shank- 2019-03-04
Liking capeshit is a prerequisite to mod on reddit
1 Strictlybutters 2019-03-04
At least chapos don’t threaten phony brigades with snitching to the admins.
1 skidmarklicker 2019-03-04
Imagine being a Reddit moderator
1 aqouta 2019-03-04
Don't try and hurt my brain, I refuse to even approach the kind of pathetic headspace that would even a approach.
1 Whaddaulookinat 2019-03-04
I'd be super lazy and exact my vindictiveness with no warning for even perceived slights against my character... Or because I'm bored.
1 MikeStoklasaAlcohol 2019-03-04
Modicide when?
1 Stacyscrazy21 2019-03-04
If he’s fighting for the Venezuela people then he is a hero
1 161AFA1312 2019-03-04
They banned me for "brigading" ie: commenting about how supporting Pinochet as a "liberal" is fucking stupid since he murdered/tortured/raped so many liberals along with the leftists. Lmao.
1 aX10mAt1CaL1Y 2019-03-04
They don’t support him lmao. What rock have you been living under?
1 dafdiego777 2019-03-04
MAybe that’s cause you’re a chapo idiot who doesn’t come over in good faith? Sounds like your addition to the discussion was as useful as your complaint, aka not very.
1 HeresCyonnah 2019-03-04
They banned someone for brigading, after saying they would ban people for brigading?
You really must be a chapocel if that was somehow surprising to you.
1 habs76 2019-03-04
And yet hasn't banned a single soul
1 d4ddyd54m4 2019-03-04
I bet he thought it was witty and cool
1 Tzar-Romulus 2019-03-04
This but unironically
1 TheSubredditPolice 2019-03-04
It's going to take some time for chapos to wash the taste of neolib hog out of their mouth after that one.
1 FinalchangeX 2019-03-04
Tbh the only two sub's where a chapo brigade consistently fails are r/drama and neolib.
Everywhere else they either shift the direction of the circlejerk or completely ruin it.
1 xthek 2019-03-04
Because other people don't even realize chapo cucks even exist lol
1 FinalchangeX 2019-03-04
True, Knowing is half the battle.
1 FusRoDawg 2019-03-04
And half the burden
1 xlhat 2019-03-04
WTF ! I love neo libs now !
1 rileykard 2019-03-04
Trust me, you don't, you really don't...
It's like learning that AIDS hates Cancer, there's no good guy here.
1 xlhat 2019-03-04
😂
1 Manannin 2019-03-04
I assume r/drama is syphilis in this example?
1 YungLarva 2019-03-04
in this case r/drama is death.
1 spergling_ 2019-03-04
r/neolib would be 100x more bearable if they would just drop their weird love for idpol
1 xlhat 2019-03-04
Agreed.
1 Alicesnakebae 2019-03-04
I'd defend her too she's a cute muslim gf
1 FinalchangeX 2019-03-04
Both her and AOC unironically have a grating voice.
1 Alicesnakebae 2019-03-04
They shouldn't be able to speak with a ballgag in
1 huey764 2019-03-04
I like AOCs voice tho
1 FinalchangeX 2019-03-04
The only way to describe the way she speaks is that it sounds Reddit.
1 SIEZE_THE_MEMES 2019-03-04
Smalia in the streets
Sharia in the sheets
😍😍🕋😍😍
1 running_out_of_alts 2019-03-04
She didn't even say anything that bad. Jews just always overreact.
1 IHeartCommyMommy 2019-03-04
Democrats feign shock as Muslim woman reveals to hate America and Jewish people while showing unconditional love for dictators, more at 11
1 yallCringyAF 2019-03-04
Lmao so calling out Israel for numerous human rights violations means you hate Jews? Acknowledging the power of Jewish lobbying means you hate Jews?
Looking at history and deciding US intervention fucking sucks means you hate America?
Yikes
1 ineed750bucks 2019-03-04
Oh? You're approaching me? Instead of running away, you're coming right to me?
1 Vurtizontal 2019-03-04
It's just a tactic to help Palestine win support. Dishonesty as far as the eye can see, is what you get from a progressive. I mean you get the same dishonesty from a conservative too, so neither side is all that great.
1 artbaselinthebezel 2019-03-04
Yeah and yet somehow 30 years went by and nobody else had the courage to stand up to Eliot Abrams
1 Vladith 2019-03-04
Do you legit think she hates Americans and Jews? Are you being deliberately dishonest or just retarded?
1 IHeartCommyMommy 2019-03-04
Does she hate America as a country? I mean probably, in the same way most progressives tend to, or at least dislike it.
Does she hate Jews? Not gonna say for sure, but it obviously wouldn't surprise me. She's obviously a fucking idiot, so it's perfectly reasonable she is just a useful idiot who parrots antisemitic talking points and not actually biggotted. No reason to pretend to be 100% sure she's a bigot when it can be explained by her already apparent stupidity.
Also are you part of the 0.1% of leftists that isn't a faggot that I've been hearing so much about?
1 yallCringyAF 2019-03-04
Damn you really have fallen down that rabbits hole smh
1 Vurtizontal 2019-03-04
Unironically yes. Im not surprised she got elected since progressives hate themselves and their country so it makes sense they help her win.
1 Vladith 2019-03-04
Criticism of Israel isn't antisemitic unless Israel is criticized for its Jewish identity. Most Jews don't live in Israel, and millions of Jews oppose the actions or even existence of that county. To conflate Israel and Jews is itself quite antisemitic.
1 imgeekedupondembars 2019-03-04
Didn't chapo just release a podcast where they talked about omar? Do these guys think for themselves?
1 FinchAndMalt 2019-03-04
Idk about any of this except that the pinned mod comment is the lamest thing I’ve ever seen
1 FinalchangeX 2019-03-04
When has a janny flaunting their "power" been anything but lame?
1 Strictlybutters 2019-03-04
It’s funny because neo libs are nuanced on pretty much everything but idpol issues e.g. any criticism of Israel is automatically anti semitism.
1 TheLordHighExecu 2019-03-04
No, we have Israel schisms too. People just want to pile on Omar because she's a succ
1 SNCommand 2019-03-04
The amount of fervor people hate on Israel with is also "idpol" bullshit
There are some people who use any opportunity available to hate on a tiny middle eastern nation with 7 million people
1 thedeevolution 2019-03-04
Israel are a lot like pit bulls. They’re sweet doggos. Sure, they might bite your kid’s face off for offering them head pets but they didn’t meeeean to! Then everyone is mad at all pit bulls/Israelis just because of a few thousand mutilated kids! It’s not fair...
1 xthek 2019-03-04
Anyone who doesn't believe this should ask how much these people care about Tibet or something.
It's all about fighting (((globalists))) though.
1 yallCringyAF 2019-03-04
It’s Israel’s own fault they’re an apartheid state
1 SNCommand 2019-03-04
Oh look, he learned buzzwords, try to define why Israel is an apartheid state without sounding like a fool
1 Raven0520 2019-03-04
For Neolibs, does being American mean anything more than having a scrap of paper and supporting Israel?
1 Stacyscrazy21 2019-03-04
Cringe
1 TheBaltimoron 2019-03-04
I kind of agree with her. Let those assholes sort it out on their own.
1 POOPISTRUMP 2019-03-04
Liberal: "Oh wow Im so cool and progressive for voting for a muslim woman."
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Omar: "Death to Israel and America. Also, thanks for the paycheck and sweet benefits."
1 DrunkPoliticalEcon 2019-03-04
Isreal is an illegitimate apartheid "state". Palestine should be its own country. r/drama gets extremely salty whenever anyone points out that American foreign policy is invading other countries for corporate profits, not "democracy" bullshit.
1 tsetnocamrak 2019-03-04
Yeah the state of Israel as it currently functions should not exist. Can't believe this many libs support an ethnostate lmao
1 ineed750bucks 2019-03-04
Notice the flair. Now, this word comes from the term "white ethnostate", describing a hypothetical state with only mayos and zero minorities being physically present. Doesn't fit israel.
1 Me-llamo_jeff 2019-03-04
Correct.
You do realise this would most likely manifest as a Sharia apartheid state.
1 ineed750bucks 2019-03-04
It's already is one though.
1 POOPISTRUMP 2019-03-04
LMAO. Israel is a legit state. since the UN made it one in 1947, as well as creating an Arab state of Palestine....but guess what....Arabs attacked the flat broke and new state of Israel, and got their asses pushed in. Later on during the 6 day war Israel fought Egypt, Syria, Jordan and Iraq. Because Israel kicked the shit out of them all in 6 fucking days.
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Israel has:
-The only Democracy in the Middle East
-Arabs as citizens of Israel, and serving in government
-Equal right for women
-Gay rights
Palestinians:
-Pseudo government / terrorist organizations that kill each other half the time
-No rights for women, gay people
-No rights for Jewish people, infact you can be put to death in many arab countries for being a non-Muslim
-An agenda to kill all jews
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Only in America and on the internet can someone say Isreal are the terrorists when Palestinians have been firing Iranian provided rockets into them for decades. Nigga Please
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lists_of_Palestinian_rocket_attacks_on_Israel
1 running_out_of_alts 2019-03-04
JIDF OUT!
1 artbaselinthebezel 2019-03-04
Death to the zionist entity
1 POOPISTRUMP 2019-03-04
Death to terrorist scum
1 PostDemocracyISNOW 2019-03-04
RECOGNISE HAMAS!
SHARIA FOR ALL!
INSHALLAH!
1 Vurtizontal 2019-03-04
Oh wow criticizing America. So original. Please give me another original hot take from your amazing brain.
1 Gtyyler 2019-03-04
I am an antifascist. I support the dictator who let's his people starve to keep himself in power for as long as possible because I have a hate boner for the country that won WW2.
1 yallCringyAF 2019-03-04
Where does she say she supports the dictator? Literally nowhere
1 Gtyyler 2019-03-04
I didnt even anything about any foid.
1 artbaselinthebezel 2019-03-04
If America really cared about the Venezulan people it would work with Maduro to provide them aid. It would do so through the appropriate UN agencies, rather than trying to force their way into the nation without no legal permission or authority.
The US doesn't care though. If the famine were ended, it would be counterproductive to their true purposes.
1 Gtyyler 2019-03-04
like the shipping containers full of aid that Maduro set aflame
It is quite obvious that the US is doing this for the oil. But what would you think is worse: starving to death or losing your oil.
1 Vurtizontal 2019-03-04
The UN can go suck a dick. The US offered aid and Maduro burned it down. Fuck you and fuck communist.
1 lolxox1965 2019-03-04
She's right tho.
1 collectijism 2019-03-04
Neoliberal: its been a one party district for 70 years.
Its weird how all those muslim countries end up theocracies.
1 Stacyscrazy21 2019-03-04
No just no lol
1 ImayGoByRen 2019-03-04
Wait for the "Y'all can't behave so I'm locking this" post
1 wow___justwow 2019-03-04
this might be the hottest take of all time
1 Stacyscrazy21 2019-03-04
Seeing the usual chapo arguments getting slaughtered is a great sight
1 informat2 2019-03-04
Lol, at calling him far right. He is probably closer to Berni Sanders then someone on the far right.
1 malaywoadraider2 2019-03-04
They can call themselves social-democrats, but Guaido is pretty much just a neoliberal complete with wanting to open bidding to privatize the hydrocarbon industries and taking IMF refinancing which will result in restructuring most government programs to public-private partnerships and austerity measures.
1 running_out_of_alts 2019-03-04
Gonna have to side with the Chapos on this one. The Jews are coming down pretty hard on this which is a little sketchy tbh.
1 elksandturkeys 2019-03-04
Towels gonna head