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CMV Dali > Picassochu.

No need to change your view you're right.

When I'm right, I'm right 😎.

Picasso was a horny manlet who (for the most part) also refused to get involved with politics.

But mostly his paintings are way less retarded.

So he IS r/drama's patron saint.

Picasso was a Red. That's it. His randiness and manletness can't mitigate that.

his paintings are way less retarded.

Dali is still numero Uno.

Srs post? Dalí had just the one style. Picasso invented multiple artistic movements.

Dalí's weird juxtapositions are untoppable if you're the penguin of d00m crowd, but he's less interesting as a painter qua painting.

Still v fond of Dalí.

I just find Dali more interesting to look at. Maybe that's why I like those landscapes by Gainsborough and symbolic portraits and scenes.

A fan of Breugel as well I imagine? I get it, and I think Picasso's genius can be pretty astringent, especially in his analytical cubist phase. But he career is just deeper than Dalí's marriage of Bosch and Freud and Spanish Catholicism.

Yep.

But his career was just deeper than Dalí's marriage of Bosch and Freud and Spanish Catholicism.

I agree. Picasso was just more innovative I guess ?

Yeah like Joyce in literature: both were unrivalled masters of form.

I prefer other artists and writers more, but their virtuousity is pretty unchallengeable.

Agreed. Joyce is Ulysses's from the little I've read, is a good read.

Now that other one, fuck that.

I got five pages in, or back, once.

I was pretty sure he just trolled us by writing that.

After reading the vulgar letters he wrote to his wife, I'm certain.

Dali pandered more to plebs, while Picasso went for the insecure but moneyed aspirationals. Both master hucksters, but very different markets.

Dali's real genius comes through in his writing, the guy was hilarious.

Picasso went for the insecure but moneyed aspirationals

I rather be a pleb than an uppity middling fag.

guy was hilarious.

Agree.

I prefer better art 🧐

One problem: Picasso didn’t have the supreme pleasure of waking up as Salvadore Dali every morning

Implying anything of "modernist" art post Kalinksy is any good.

Fuck you u cringe art history cel. Im so mad rn.

Kalinsky

Steakhouse art

So beautiful a child can do it!

I once made "The Virgin Picasso vs. The Chad Dali"

My man 👌👍.

Sure but Dali was pro incels:

Men who fuck easily, and can give themselves without difficulty, have only a very diminished creative potency.. .Look at Leonardo da Vinci, Hitler, Napoleon, they all left their mark on their times, and they were more or less impotent.

Quote from Entretiens avec Salvador Dali, Alain Bosquet, 1966; as cited in The shameful life of Salvador Dali, Ian Gibson, New York / London, Norton & Co, 1997

Yes, and is there anything more chad than standing up for incels while having a cool mustache?

Ripping on incels while shit posting.

Other than Guernica, Picasso’s paintings 🖼 were lame 😒. Salvador Dali’s paintings 🖼 has melting clocks 🕰. Melting clocks ⏰!!!

no youre thinking of H.P. "When, long ago, the gods created Earth In Jove's fair image Man was shaped at birth. The beasts for lesser parts were next designed; Yet were they too remote from humankind. To fill the gap, and join the rest to Man, Th'Olympian host conceiv'd a clever plan. A beast they wrought, in semi-human figure, Filled it with vice, and called the thing a Nigger." Lovecraft

Also he named his cat Nigger Man.

He also looked like the elephant man's gay little brother.

art is retarded

for your ideas about art, I don't give a fart

even artists i know agree that art is bullshit

the art is to sell that bullshit well

isn't all things bullshit that sells well?

yeah but arts people usually pretend that there is some deeper meaning in their paintings that you can only really understand if you are 'cultured' or if you went to the same college as they went to or if you read some 200 something page book about expressionism

so not only is it bullshit but it's pretentious bullshit

This. Source: my best friend studies art

Everything is devoid of meaning. Our planet's system is so far away from anything else that I'm almost certain that humanity will die on earth. Not just physically, but all things human, all our books, all our computers will never be seen by other sentient beings.

/r/im14andthisisdeep/

Nah

Based Pastor Randy!

In his 1970 book Dalí by Dalí, Dalí declared himself to be both an anarchist and monarchist.

based and Hans Hermann-Hoppe-pilled

The genius painter, with the celebrity friends, and the fame, and the phallic-shaped swimming pool, reportedly had no trouble attracting an entourage of beautiful young women and men into his orbit, even in his later years. He was also married to his muse, Gala, for nearly five decades. And yet, both within that marriage and outside of it, Dalí is thought to have mostly abstained from sex throughout life.

Definitely /r/drama material

He even defended the indefensible (incels):

Men who fuck easily, and can give themselves without difficulty, have only a very diminished creative potency.. .Look at Leonardo da Vinci, Hitler, Napoleon, they all left their mark on their times, and they were more or less impotent.

Quote from Entretiens avec Salvador Dali, Alain Bosquet, 1966; as cited in The shameful life of Salvador Dali, Ian Gibson, New York / London, Norton & Co, 1997

Basado y rojo-pildorado.

Getting this tatted

George Orwell got fucking MAD at the fact Dali didn't fight in the civil war, basically calling him an enabler of fascism.

Didn't Orwell regret fighting in the war?

Well, he got shot in the face

Only a little. He got better.

This but actually.

He regretted allying with stalinists

so Orwell was the one who originated "all centrists are fascists" tankie meme

Well no, there's not really any 'originator' because its pretty well a core tenant of the ideology. I guess you could say he's one of the first ones to use it in the popular conscious, though.

its not a tankie meme, fascists call themselves third positionists for a reason

What fascists referred to themselves as third positionist?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_Position

Pretty well all the big parties, but especially those that came in the decades immediately after ww2

What about the big ones like Italy and Germany? I have never heard this before.

From what I can tell, they did not call themselves as so, but there was some prescient for people to refer to them as so, at least partially.

For example, Italian Fascism, at least on paper, argued against both the prospect of liberal democratic capitalism as well as dictatorship-of-the-proletariat workers council socialism. Instead, it argued for the idea of corporatism, an ideology which was based on Georges Sorel's ideology of National Syndicalism. Its a difficult explanation of what it is, but essentially Sorel's argument was that the class struggle posited by Marx could only be achieved through the use of National Myth. Essentially, he argued that the working class should be invigorated with the ideas of powerful Jingoistic sentiment, which would allow them to come together against the Bourgeois class and overthrow it, creating a truly united nation that was free of class strife. On the economic side, Syndicalism argued in favor of the national regulation of Trade Unions (and Mussolini would later argue in favor of incorporating private sectors to this, too). People would be organized by whatever trade it was they work in, and their needs, desires, and interests would be addressed by the agreement of their sector. As the wiki says, "Each trade union or employer corporation would theoretically represent its professional concerns, especially by negotiation of labour contracts and the like."

A lot of explanation, but essentially Corporatism and Fascism as a whole was an ideology that was both alike and unlike the other two ideologies of capitalism and communism, so marketed itself as an alternative to the two. If you want sort of a full encompassing of how Mussolini formed his ideology, his influences and how they changed over the years, Historian Indy Neidall does a great (if long) overview of it in this video here.

Arguably as well Strasserism within the Nazi Party was a sort of precursor to modern Third Positionism. I'm just going to take the exert from Rationalewiki on this (which yeah I know but bear with me on this because they did get this part pretty well right):

look to the original National Socialist German Workers Party of the 1920s and early 1930s. One faction, led by Adolf Hitler, was merely interested in raw power, hatred, and putting their genocidal and militaristic fantasies into practice as well as being anti-Slavic, anti-Communist, anti-Polish and expansionist. The other faction, led by the Strasser brothers (Otto and Gregor), took the "Socialist" part of the party's name seriously and espoused an anti-capitalist, anti-bourgeois left-wing working class revolutionary stance with redistribution of the wealth to Germans akin to communism in addition to extreme German nationalism and antisemitism (but on an economic rather than racial or religious basis opposing what they called "Jewish finance capitalism")

Notice the opposition to the Bourgeois classes while arguing in favor of extreme Nationalist spirit to remove and then replace that class struggle. Quite similar to Sorelianism.

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Thanks that was actually informative.

Wow, thanks, ily

😍

He was a drug addict sex pervert who kept the company of hippies

Hippies and fascists

Dalì was the best gimmickposter of the 20th century

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