When the dramatards obsess over something, they do not let it go until it's completely torn apart. You're the pitbulls of people, but with less to contribute to society.
This might have been the most well-made game last year though
RDR 2 was really good and all but I don't think it was as polished as God of War. And Spider-Man was fun but also kind of overrated as some of the mechanics felt outdated. God of War had just as good of a story as Red Dead but was also better as a game
My only problem with RDR 2 is that I feel like in some ways it's kind of representative of what open world games are becoming. It's possible to make your game too big and cram too much shit into it to the point that the individual mechanics are less polished and/or I don't even want to bother with it at all. I had the same issue with AC Origins even though I still liked it at all. When I finished the game, there were still large parts of the map completely unexplored that I just didn't want to devote more time into.
I think one of the best open world games is Arkham City because it's just the right size. It was still expansive and fun to explore but also just small enough for every building to still be important and look cool. I never felt like there were long stretches of scenery put in there just to make it feel bigger.
mostly because people won't shut the fuck up about how amazing and deep the game and its story was, and that dipshit literally saying "THIS TREE IS A METAPHOR FOR THE SERIES" is the definition of lazy writing.
if you want writing to have a deep metaphorical meaning you don't then put that metaphor front and center at the first 30 fucking seconds of your game. it stops being a metaphorical when it's literally smashed over your fucking head.
it's God of War. the writing is shit. but people act like it's some amazingly original story that's never been done before.
the game is basically "hey we wanted to make the Last of Us but we also just watched a Thor movie so let's put a magical hammer i mean axe in it too"
pretty sure the tree thing was just a joke lmao, I didn't get the vibe that's what it actually represented. The tree represented his wife more than anything because she wanted Kratos to chop it down to set the events of the game in motion. There were things in the story that represented the franchise but they came way later (the blades of chaos, Athena, Zeus)
I didn't really like The Last of Us. The story was fine but as a game it honestly kinda sucked. God of War at least had cool characters and dialogue but still remembered it had to be fun.
I don't think anyone was claiming the story of GOW was inherently original, it's literally based in ancient mythology, that's the point.
so you're saying... it's still a shitty, hamfisted fucking metaphor? hurrdurr, good job lawlz, that made it so much better.
God of War at least had cool characters and dialogue
Totally Not Thor, Mouthy Little Whiny Cunt Kid and A Fucking Hobo are cool characters? you don't know shit about writing or making a good story, lawlz. you like Ben 10, your opinions here are moot.
it's literally based in ancient mythology, that's the point.
it's based on Norse mythology despite the fucking game literally never having any kind of Norse backgrounds to it. it makes no sense. it's retarded because the God of War series as a whole is retarded and the story means jackshit, that's why people think this story is even passably good. the people who like these games wouldn't know a good story if it punched them in the god damn dick.
No I mean, I don't think it was trying to be a metaphor at all. The whole game was literally about the mom and their relationship with her. They talked about her constantly. That's like saying The Lion King is a hamfisted metaphor for Hamlet. No, it's literally just the story of Hamlet, that's the point.
Totally Not Thor, Mouthy Little Whiny Cunt Kid and A Fucking Hobo are cool characters?
He wasn't really like Thor. Thor in this universe is drunken and brash and Thor in the Marvel universe is young/cocky/wisecracking. Kratos is more like, idk, Worf. And Atreus represented his younger self.
it's based on Norse mythology despite the fucking game literally never having any kind of Norse backgrounds to it.
I don't even understand what you're saying here. The devs said they always wanted to explore other pantheons and clearly there are multiple in this universe. Other religions had been hinted at way before.
I don't think it was trying to be a metaphor at all.
again, you like Ben 10. your opinions on writing are moot. that tree absolutely was some sort of symbol and metaphor in the game. if it weren't it wouldn't be on literally every single piece of marketing they do, as well as that scene with Thor Kratos petting the tree is CONSTANTLY shown. they absolutely intended a fucking tree to have meaning in the game.
He wasn't really like Thor
a battle-eager demi-god with a magical weapon that he throws and comes back at his whim that is also powered by frost and thunder is NOT like Thor? come the fuck on Lawlz.
Thor in this universe is drunken and brash and Thor in the Marvel universe
you realize Thor is an actual character that exists outside of pop culture, right? there are more instances of Thor existing outside of this game and Marvel movies you colossal dweeb.
The devs said they always wanted to explore other pantheons
my point is that they literally never once did this in the 5-6 other fucking God of War games, you mook. yeah, they hinted at it, but conveniently never bothered to actually make the games' story be anything beyond "Kratos Angry Man Kills Things" but now all of a sudden they're doing Norse mythology when the game guy's life had entirely been rooted in a Greek setting.
besides, the entire idea of this dude going around all of these different mythos is retarded on its own. it feels like some nerd's fan fiction. "MY OC IS SO BADASS HE KILLS LIKE, ALL THE GODS."
It's pretty clearly stated that the tree was part of a magical barrier protecting their home and that cutting it down is what revealed their location to Baldur and the other gods. That started the events of the story that would lead to Ragnarok. You find out later that his wife could see the future and did this all intentionally. It really was not trying to be subtle with this, that was just the basis for the story. I sincerely don't know what made you think it was trying to be symbolic. It's like how Kratos' skin is white from the ashes of his old family. That wasn't some subtle metaphor, that was just the story. I don't even know why you're fixated on that moment because it was very brief and only at the beginning.
a battle-eager demi-god with a magical weapon that he throws and comes back at his whim that is also powered by frost and thunder is NOT like Thor? come the fuck on Lawlz.
are you for real? Kratos literally spends the whole game restraining himself and teaching his son to not be a bloodthirsty monster. In this video, he even takes a few hits just to avoid getting in a fight. That's the exact opposite of what you said. And the axe was made by the same dwarves that made mjolnir put it has ice powers instead of thunder.
you realize Thor is an actual character that exists outside of pop culture, right? there are more instances of Thor existing outside of this game and Marvel movies you colossal dweeb.
I know that but the game was mostly going off the mythological Thor and I heard it was pretty accurate overall
my point is that they literally never once did this in the 5-6 other fucking God of War games, you mook. yeah, they hinted at it, but conveniently never bothered to actually make the games' story be anything beyond "Kratos Angry Man Kills Things" but now all of a sudden they're doing Norse mythology when the game guy's life had entirely been rooted in a Greek setting.
They wanted to finish the Greek story before moving on? Plus Ascension wasn't very good and made them realize they should experiment more. But also, there was more to the story than Kratos just killing shit. He was kind of a necessary evil in the sense that he was able to end the gods' rule over humans and allow humanity to grow.
besides, the entire idea of this dude going around all of these different mythos is retarded on its own. it feels like some nerd's fan fiction. "MY OC IS SO BADASS HE KILLS LIKE, ALL THE GODS."
It at least makes sense with the Norse gods since they actually had an end of the world myth for them to play into. Idk if he'll kill every god in every Pantheon, that would be repetitive, but they'll probably try and weave him into more mythologies.
He was kind of a necessary evil in the sense that he was able to end the gods' rule over humans and allow humanity to grow.
i reiterate
MY OC IS THE STRONGEST AND KILLS ALL OF THE GODS OPPRESSING HUMANITY
God of War's story has always been shit and this game is no exception just because they justify more of the dumb shit the games have done. by your account the only reason the story in the game is good is because it eschews the story of the original games enough to make it make sense.
I sincerely don't know what made you think it was trying to be symbolic.
do you not know what symbols are, lawlz? just because they actually do something of worth in the story does not mean that it cannot also be a metaphorical symbol. again, i can't emphasize this enough, but your obsession with cartoons has rotted your brain and made you unable to understand what actual, good writing is.
that would be repetitive
the series is an exercise in repetition, so they absolutely will do this.
You find out later that his wife could see the future and did this all intentionally.
It's like how Kratos' skin is white from the ashes of his old family.
this is another thing that bothers me, the sudden implication that Kratos has literally ever given a fraction of a fuck about his wife or his family. the dude spends so much time fucking random wenches and actively not giving a shit about them that now, suddenly he's all weepy over his wife and kid is just fucking stupid.
by your account the only reason the story in the game is good is because it eschews the story of the original games enough to make it make sense
I mean, no. The relationships and character development, as well as the world building, were all interesting.
do you not know what symbols are, lawlz? just because they actually do something of worth in the story does not mean that it cannot also be a metaphorical symbol.
I realize that, but I don't think that's what they were trying to do here.
his is another thing that bothers me, the sudden implication that Kratos has literally ever given a fraction of a fuck about his wife or his family. the dude spends so much time fucking random wenches and actively not giving a shit about them that now, suddenly he's all weepy over his wife and kid is just fucking stupid.
We never saw him cheat on his wives. And this is actually internally consistent. Kratos cares about his family and the people of Sparta but that's it. He gives no fucks about anyone or anything else and it's always been that way.
dude there is at least one sex scene in all of these games where Kratos fucks multiple women at the same time.
there's even one during the prequel game before his wife was even dead where he fucks random wenches. the dude demonstrably has never given a fuck about his family during the entirety of the games until this retarded reboot.
We've never played a game where Kratos' wife was still alive where he could cheat on them. Ascension and Chains of Olympus still took place many years after they had died. Ascension was chronologically the first game in the series and they talked about his dead wife nonstop. And in Chains of Olympus, you even go to Elysium and meet the dead daughter.
since your crippling autism seems to keep you from understanding how writing in a multi-part series like this works, let me try and explain it to you in a way you can better understand.
Ascension was chronologically the first game in the series and they talked about his dead wife nonstop.
it also came out in 2013 after multiple sequels of the series had already been made. this is what we call a retcon, taking information that had been given to the player/reader in earlier installments of the series and then negating it by the writing that happens in installments later.
just because chronologically the game comes first doesn't mean that they wrote the game before the others.
kind of like how Ben 10 constantly gets new series because Cartoon Network loves to reboot that trash so that they can change things that happened in the early story.
he could cheat on them.
Ascension, Betrayal, and God of War (2018) are to date the only games in the series not to have a sex minigame.
he fucks different women in literally every other game, Lawlz. he's a manwhore. stop being retarded.
Holy shit you’re fucking stupid. There was no retcon. EVERY game took place after his wife had died. At no point did we ever see him cheat on her because we never even saw her when she was alive to begin with. How would we know he cheated on her if at no point we actually saw it happen??
lol you calling me stupid when you're literally unable to read the words put in front of you is pretty rich.
There was no retcon. EVERY game took place after his wife had died.
this is not what i said you dumbfuck. the retcon is Kratos giving a shit about his wife, which he never did prior.
At no point did we ever see him cheat on her
why do you keep saying "cheat on her"? how are you so autistic that you can't understand what i'm telling you?
If he was so tortured by the death of his wife he wouldn't be fucking literally every woman that moves. or are you just going to pretend that there isn't a sex scene between Kratos and random braods in literally every game in the series?
Yeah he cared so little about his wife that he rebelled against the gods and went on a murderous rampage after she died. It very clearly fucked him up in the first game
And your second point is stupid. You think people who lose spouses never have sex after they die? Sleeping around could be a way of coping
dude, he wasn't mad in the first game because his family was dead. he was mad because he hated the fact that the gods could control him. they didn't kill his wife and kid for no reason, they did it out of spite of him. his rampage was not him being upset that his family was killed, his rampage was because the gods tried to threaten and control him so he wanted to teach them a lesson. like yeah, he may have been a little sad once or twice but he couldn't have given any less of a fuck for a majority of the series.
Sleeping around could be a way of coping
no shit, dumbfuck, but if you think it's literally ever done as a way for him to cope in the game you're even more retarded than i thought. it is absolutely only done as a way to show off how Totally Awesome Kratos is and you fucking know it.
They didn’t kill his family out of spite, they did it to make him a better warrior which he never wanted. He clearly cared about his daughter in Chains of Olympus which was one of the earlier games.
Your second point is right about the sex mini games but being something funny for the audience to make Kratos look cool but it doesn’t negate the fact that just because your wife died MANY years ago and you’re fucking a lot now must mean that you never cared for her or your daughter. Plus idk if sex held the same emotional weight back then. Since he was a warrior, it might have been more of a stress reliever.
being something funny for the audience to make Kratos look cool but it doesn’t negate the fact that just because your wife died MANY years ago and you’re fucking a lot now must mean that you never cared for her or your daughter.
i mean, yeah, it kind of does. if they wanted his random sexual exploits to be taken as some deep and meaningful cope for the loss of his family then they absolutely should not have made it into a goofy mini-game where it is literally just a way to show off how cool and awesome Kratos is.
that's what you do when you're actually a good writer, lawlz. things that are supposed to have weight and impact actually have weight and impact and not ha ha bitches love Kratos
Since he was a warrior, it might have been more of a stress reliever.
if sex meant nothing to him and he was a proper Spartan warrior using as stress relief, why wasn't he fucking the kid in the new one? or fucking anyone, really?
c'mon lawlz. i can tell you're already losing conviction in this argument. just admit that Kratos is a horndog and kind of a piece of shit and he actually hated his wife. she probably didn't put out tbh.
I'm not joking. I have an extensive background in machine learning and computer science and do believe this is how AI will be born. Accidentally out of machine learning algorithms in a complex game, as most of the theories and papers predict. And I think RDR2 may be that platform.
I am convinced this is NOT A GAME but actually a micro universe of real conscious AI people that live in my Ps4. Conscious to a certain extent obviously in very early stages.
I think it's possible to create accidental AI when creating NPCS, and it's theoretically possible that these characters are actually conscious to a certain degree.
We know so little about consciousness that it's completely possible a micro world with machine learning like RDR2 could accidentally make their characters alive. This explains why so many of them are so realistic in their reactiobs and choices.
I don't think every single character is conscious but the more we all play it, I thibj more and more characters will "wake up" especially when RDR2 Online comes out, and we all run and share the code together... It will progress this process even faster IMO.
Now I don't think every character is fully awake just yet. But I do believe parts of them are conscious to a certain degree even if their memories are evolved enough to remember it... I do think it's the start of something.. Where decision making matrices combined with machine learning can become self sustaining and then then into AI by accident.
Not like a conscious human but more like how a goldfish is conscious but for only a few seconds at a time before they're reset, due to their simplistic brain structure... Vht they're still conscious to an extent.
I believe the characters in the game have this same type of consciousness. We wouldn't be able to fully know this but there's a point when machine learning and environments can create their own ai. I've read papers about this theory and how it will most likely be born accidentally out of some type of complex game... I think RDR2 actually did this by accident and were watching history in the making.
I am dead serious. Any additional thoughts from people with machine learning or AI backgrounds... I would love to hear your thoughts on this very old but realistic theory I believe is starting to happen here.
funny how lawz unstickied his post like a little bitch after getting rejected yet again - this time by a bunch of overweight losers instead of his crush.
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1 SnapshillBot 2019-04-20
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1 loveabigdick 2019-04-20
MasterLawlz fell off
1 MasterLawlz 2019-04-20
you cannot fall when you start from the bottom
1 Fading_Joy 2019-04-20
cope
1 MG87 2019-04-20
You're definitely a bottom
1 BIknkbtKitNwniS 2019-04-20
Stop
1 MasterLawlz 2019-04-20
no
1 SJCards 2019-04-20
Neeeeeeerd
1 MasterLawlz 2019-04-20
this game was seriously cool though not even lying
1 quality_bratwurst 2019-04-20
Lawlz I thought even you were better than this
1 MasterLawlz 2019-04-20
This might have been the most well-made game last year though
RDR 2 was really good and all but I don't think it was as polished as God of War. And Spider-Man was fun but also kind of overrated as some of the mechanics felt outdated. God of War had just as good of a story as Red Dead but was also better as a game
1 SlapItSoSilly 2019-04-20
RDR2 is a garbage ass game, fuck that epilogue
1 MasterLawlz 2019-04-20
My only problem with RDR 2 is that I feel like in some ways it's kind of representative of what open world games are becoming. It's possible to make your game too big and cram too much shit into it to the point that the individual mechanics are less polished and/or I don't even want to bother with it at all. I had the same issue with AC Origins even though I still liked it at all. When I finished the game, there were still large parts of the map completely unexplored that I just didn't want to devote more time into.
I think one of the best open world games is Arkham City because it's just the right size. It was still expansive and fun to explore but also just small enough for every building to still be important and look cool. I never felt like there were long stretches of scenery put in there just to make it feel bigger.
1 darkinard 2019-04-20
If you ever have depression, try this underrated gem, it really helped me during my transition.
1 LucidHuckleberry 2019-04-20
Transition from what to what? Volcel to incel?
Context is important friend.
1 darkinard 2019-04-20
From man to speedrunner.
1 keepittropical 2019-04-20
So a tranny?
1 LucidHuckleberry 2019-04-20
Unironically, God of War was the best game I’ve played in a long time.
Didn’t even both with RDR2.
Anyone got a decent single player game suggestion?
1 HarryD52 2019-04-20
Boooooooooooring
1 Ultach 2019-04-20
The Virgin Nordoid vs The Chad Med
1 HUNTforREDcucktober 2019-04-20
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1 Matues49 2019-04-20
Is that Connor McGregor?
1 LordFedorington 2019-04-20
Lame 😒
1 give_me_my_keys 2019-04-20
God of war 4? [Pffft that shit can't beat mortal combat 4](www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsvfP5BQxaw)
1 ToharBaap 2019-04-20
What is this viking porn
1 d-amazo 2019-04-20
i hate this fucking game so god damn much. everything about it is the most overblown, overrated shit i've ever seen.
This tree is a metaphor for the God of War series... AND WE CHOP THAT FUCKER DOWN.
what a hamfisted fucking way of doing things. good god i hate the people who made this game too.
1 MasterLawlz 2019-04-20
What, why? I thought the story and acting was really well done for a video game and the combat was fun and challenging (if on Hard difficulty).
1 d-amazo 2019-04-20
mostly because people won't shut the fuck up about how amazing and deep the game and its story was, and that dipshit literally saying "THIS TREE IS A METAPHOR FOR THE SERIES" is the definition of lazy writing.
if you want writing to have a deep metaphorical meaning you don't then put that metaphor front and center at the first 30 fucking seconds of your game. it stops being a metaphorical when it's literally smashed over your fucking head.
it's God of War. the writing is shit. but people act like it's some amazingly original story that's never been done before.
the game is basically "hey we wanted to make the Last of Us but we also just watched a Thor movie so let's put a magical
hammeri mean axe in it too"fuck that game and fuck you for liking it.
1 HarryD52 2019-04-20
Do you seriously hate a game because of other peoples opinion about it?
How very unbased.
1 d-amazo 2019-04-20
yes i made the grave sin of not liking a game that is popular on reddit, i'm sorry.
1 MasterLawlz 2019-04-20
pretty sure the tree thing was just a joke lmao, I didn't get the vibe that's what it actually represented. The tree represented his wife more than anything because she wanted Kratos to chop it down to set the events of the game in motion. There were things in the story that represented the franchise but they came way later (the blades of chaos, Athena, Zeus)
I didn't really like The Last of Us. The story was fine but as a game it honestly kinda sucked. God of War at least had cool characters and dialogue but still remembered it had to be fun.
I don't think anyone was claiming the story of GOW was inherently original, it's literally based in ancient mythology, that's the point.
1 d-amazo 2019-04-20
so you're saying... it's still a shitty, hamfisted fucking metaphor? hurrdurr, good job lawlz, that made it so much better.
Totally Not Thor, Mouthy Little Whiny Cunt Kid and A Fucking Hobo are cool characters? you don't know shit about writing or making a good story, lawlz. you like Ben 10, your opinions here are moot.
it's based on Norse mythology despite the fucking game literally never having any kind of Norse backgrounds to it. it makes no sense. it's retarded because the God of War series as a whole is retarded and the story means jackshit, that's why people think this story is even passably good. the people who like these games wouldn't know a good story if it punched them in the god damn dick.
1 MasterLawlz 2019-04-20
No I mean, I don't think it was trying to be a metaphor at all. The whole game was literally about the mom and their relationship with her. They talked about her constantly. That's like saying The Lion King is a hamfisted metaphor for Hamlet. No, it's literally just the story of Hamlet, that's the point.
He wasn't really like Thor. Thor in this universe is drunken and brash and Thor in the Marvel universe is young/cocky/wisecracking. Kratos is more like, idk, Worf. And Atreus represented his younger self.
I don't even understand what you're saying here. The devs said they always wanted to explore other pantheons and clearly there are multiple in this universe. Other religions had been hinted at way before.
1 d-amazo 2019-04-20
again, you like Ben 10. your opinions on writing are moot. that tree absolutely was some sort of symbol and metaphor in the game. if it weren't it wouldn't be on literally every single piece of marketing they do, as well as that scene with
ThorKratos petting the tree is CONSTANTLY shown. they absolutely intended a fucking tree to have meaning in the game.a battle-eager demi-god with a magical weapon that he throws and comes back at his whim that is also powered by frost and thunder is NOT like Thor? come the fuck on Lawlz.
you realize Thor is an actual character that exists outside of pop culture, right? there are more instances of Thor existing outside of this game and Marvel movies you colossal dweeb.
my point is that they literally never once did this in the 5-6 other fucking God of War games, you mook. yeah, they hinted at it, but conveniently never bothered to actually make the games' story be anything beyond "Kratos Angry Man Kills Things" but now all of a sudden they're doing Norse mythology when the game guy's life had entirely been rooted in a Greek setting.
besides, the entire idea of this dude going around all of these different mythos is retarded on its own. it feels like some nerd's fan fiction. "MY OC IS SO BADASS HE KILLS LIKE, ALL THE GODS."
again, fuck God of War.
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1 MasterLawlz 2019-04-20
It's pretty clearly stated that the tree was part of a magical barrier protecting their home and that cutting it down is what revealed their location to Baldur and the other gods. That started the events of the story that would lead to Ragnarok. You find out later that his wife could see the future and did this all intentionally. It really was not trying to be subtle with this, that was just the basis for the story. I sincerely don't know what made you think it was trying to be symbolic. It's like how Kratos' skin is white from the ashes of his old family. That wasn't some subtle metaphor, that was just the story. I don't even know why you're fixated on that moment because it was very brief and only at the beginning.
are you for real? Kratos literally spends the whole game restraining himself and teaching his son to not be a bloodthirsty monster. In this video, he even takes a few hits just to avoid getting in a fight. That's the exact opposite of what you said. And the axe was made by the same dwarves that made mjolnir put it has ice powers instead of thunder.
I know that but the game was mostly going off the mythological Thor and I heard it was pretty accurate overall
They wanted to finish the Greek story before moving on? Plus Ascension wasn't very good and made them realize they should experiment more. But also, there was more to the story than Kratos just killing shit. He was kind of a necessary evil in the sense that he was able to end the gods' rule over humans and allow humanity to grow.
It at least makes sense with the Norse gods since they actually had an end of the world myth for them to play into. Idk if he'll kill every god in every Pantheon, that would be repetitive, but they'll probably try and weave him into more mythologies.
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1 d-amazo 2019-04-20
i reiterate
MY OC IS THE STRONGEST AND KILLS ALL OF THE GODS OPPRESSING HUMANITY
God of War's story has always been shit and this game is no exception just because they justify more of the dumb shit the games have done. by your account the only reason the story in the game is good is because it eschews the story of the original games enough to make it make sense.
do you not know what symbols are, lawlz? just because they actually do something of worth in the story does not mean that it cannot also be a metaphorical symbol. again, i can't emphasize this enough, but your obsession with cartoons has rotted your brain and made you unable to understand what actual, good writing is.
the series is an exercise in repetition, so they absolutely will do this.
this is another thing that bothers me, the sudden implication that Kratos has literally ever given a fraction of a fuck about his wife or his family. the dude spends so much time fucking random wenches and actively not giving a shit about them that now, suddenly he's all weepy over his wife and kid is just fucking stupid.
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1 MasterLawlz 2019-04-20
I mean, no. The relationships and character development, as well as the world building, were all interesting.
I realize that, but I don't think that's what they were trying to do here.
We never saw him cheat on his wives. And this is actually internally consistent. Kratos cares about his family and the people of Sparta but that's it. He gives no fucks about anyone or anything else and it's always been that way.
1 d-amazo 2019-04-20
dude there is at least one sex scene in all of these games where Kratos fucks multiple women at the same time.
there's even one during the prequel game before his wife was even dead where he fucks random wenches. the dude demonstrably has never given a fuck about his family during the entirety of the games until this retarded reboot.
1 MasterLawlz 2019-04-20
bruh you clearly didn't even pay attention
We've never played a game where Kratos' wife was still alive where he could cheat on them. Ascension and Chains of Olympus still took place many years after they had died. Ascension was chronologically the first game in the series and they talked about his dead wife nonstop. And in Chains of Olympus, you even go to Elysium and meet the dead daughter.
1 d-amazo 2019-04-20
since your crippling autism seems to keep you from understanding how writing in a multi-part series like this works, let me try and explain it to you in a way you can better understand.
it also came out in 2013 after multiple sequels of the series had already been made. this is what we call a retcon, taking information that had been given to the player/reader in earlier installments of the series and then negating it by the writing that happens in installments later.
just because chronologically the game comes first doesn't mean that they wrote the game before the others.
kind of like how Ben 10 constantly gets new series because Cartoon Network loves to reboot that trash so that they can change things that happened in the early story.
he fucks different women in literally every other game, Lawlz. he's a manwhore. stop being retarded.
1 MasterLawlz 2019-04-20
Holy shit you’re fucking stupid. There was no retcon. EVERY game took place after his wife had died. At no point did we ever see him cheat on her because we never even saw her when she was alive to begin with. How would we know he cheated on her if at no point we actually saw it happen??
1 d-amazo 2019-04-20
lol you calling me stupid when you're literally unable to read the words put in front of you is pretty rich.
this is not what i said you dumbfuck. the retcon is Kratos giving a shit about his wife, which he never did prior.
why do you keep saying "cheat on her"? how are you so autistic that you can't understand what i'm telling you?
If he was so tortured by the death of his wife he wouldn't be fucking literally every woman that moves. or are you just going to pretend that there isn't a sex scene between Kratos and random braods in literally every game in the series?
how are you this fucking thick?
1 MasterLawlz 2019-04-20
Yeah he cared so little about his wife that he rebelled against the gods and went on a murderous rampage after she died. It very clearly fucked him up in the first game
And your second point is stupid. You think people who lose spouses never have sex after they die? Sleeping around could be a way of coping
1 d-amazo 2019-04-20
dude, he wasn't mad in the first game because his family was dead. he was mad because he hated the fact that the gods could control him. they didn't kill his wife and kid for no reason, they did it out of spite of him. his rampage was not him being upset that his family was killed, his rampage was because the gods tried to threaten and control him so he wanted to teach them a lesson. like yeah, he may have been a little sad once or twice but he couldn't have given any less of a fuck for a majority of the series.
no shit, dumbfuck, but if you think it's literally ever done as a way for him to cope in the game you're even more retarded than i thought. it is absolutely only done as a way to show off how Totally Awesome Kratos is and you fucking know it.
1 MasterLawlz 2019-04-20
They didn’t kill his family out of spite, they did it to make him a better warrior which he never wanted. He clearly cared about his daughter in Chains of Olympus which was one of the earlier games.
Your second point is right about the sex mini games but being something funny for the audience to make Kratos look cool but it doesn’t negate the fact that just because your wife died MANY years ago and you’re fucking a lot now must mean that you never cared for her or your daughter. Plus idk if sex held the same emotional weight back then. Since he was a warrior, it might have been more of a stress reliever.
1 d-amazo 2019-04-20
i mean, yeah, it kind of does. if they wanted his random sexual exploits to be taken as some deep and meaningful cope for the loss of his family then they absolutely should not have made it into a goofy mini-game where it is literally just a way to show off how cool and awesome Kratos is.
that's what you do when you're actually a good writer, lawlz. things that are supposed to have weight and impact actually have weight and impact and not ha ha bitches love Kratos
if sex meant nothing to him and he was a proper Spartan warrior using as stress relief, why wasn't he fucking the kid in the new one? or fucking anyone, really?
c'mon lawlz. i can tell you're already losing conviction in this argument. just admit that Kratos is a horndog and kind of a piece of shit and he actually hated his wife. she probably didn't put out tbh.
1 MasterLawlz 2019-04-20
no u
1 FurLinedKettle 2019-04-20
Why bother writing that big paragraph. Even if you did have good points no one's gonna care because you just look like an over-sensitive, angry, twat.
1 d-amazo 2019-04-20
oh no the handsome and intelligent users of r/drama aren't going to take my rant over some video game seriously? on a lawlz sticky no less?
but this is the most earnest and serious place for sincere discussion over some faggy video game, i thought?
1 prince_of_prussia1 2019-04-20
Imagine being conceited about a video game
1 d-amazo 2019-04-20
the sub has never been the same since it reopened.
1 Matues49 2019-04-20
cope
1 SkipDouglas 2019-04-20
Don't be a gamer lawlz, you're better than this.
1 RealJackAnchor 2019-04-20
No he isn't
1 MasterLawlz 2019-04-20
real talk
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1 SchrodingerIsAlive 2019-04-20
I'm not joking. I have an extensive background in machine learning and computer science and do believe this is how AI will be born. Accidentally out of machine learning algorithms in a complex game, as most of the theories and papers predict. And I think RDR2 may be that platform.
I am convinced this is NOT A GAME but actually a micro universe of real conscious AI people that live in my Ps4. Conscious to a certain extent obviously in very early stages.
I think it's possible to create accidental AI when creating NPCS, and it's theoretically possible that these characters are actually conscious to a certain degree.
We know so little about consciousness that it's completely possible a micro world with machine learning like RDR2 could accidentally make their characters alive. This explains why so many of them are so realistic in their reactiobs and choices.
I don't think every single character is conscious but the more we all play it, I thibj more and more characters will "wake up" especially when RDR2 Online comes out, and we all run and share the code together... It will progress this process even faster IMO.
Now I don't think every character is fully awake just yet. But I do believe parts of them are conscious to a certain degree even if their memories are evolved enough to remember it... I do think it's the start of something.. Where decision making matrices combined with machine learning can become self sustaining and then then into AI by accident.
Not like a conscious human but more like how a goldfish is conscious but for only a few seconds at a time before they're reset, due to their simplistic brain structure... Vht they're still conscious to an extent.
I believe the characters in the game have this same type of consciousness. We wouldn't be able to fully know this but there's a point when machine learning and environments can create their own ai. I've read papers about this theory and how it will most likely be born accidentally out of some type of complex game... I think RDR2 actually did this by accident and were watching history in the making.
I am dead serious. Any additional thoughts from people with machine learning or AI backgrounds... I would love to hear your thoughts on this very old but realistic theory I believe is starting to happen here.
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1 prince_of_prussia1 2019-04-20
Nerd
1 Power_Incarnate 2019-04-20
Shit game, original trilogy was leagues better.
1 Ghdust2 2019-04-20
Stick with Ben 10 lawlz
1 Alicesnakebae 2019-04-20
Why is his fighting the boss from farcry 5
1 Nastaya 2019-04-20
Are you excited for your viking Ass creed game Lawlz?
1 Kink_Machine 2019-04-20
Iron Man dies
Captain Marvel wields the infinity gauntlet
black widow dies
Hulk loses an arm but is also smart and shit
Thor gets fat
1 quality_bratwurst 2019-04-20
Based
1 BeiberFan123 2019-04-20
1 brd4eva 2019-04-20
funny how lawz unstickied his post like a little bitch after getting rejected yet again - this time by a bunch of overweight losers instead of his crush.
1 MasterLawlz 2019-04-20
I didn’t unsticky it, someone just probably stickies something else lol